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Being able to go to Starbucks and sit there and wait until the rest of your party shows up before ordering. Since I routinely take people out for coffee as part of my job, and am always the person paying, I have literally done this hundreds of times. Never once have I been asked to leave or told I couldn't use the restroom.
https://thinkprogress.org/philly-police-chief-defends-cops-in-racist-arrest-11758b06780c/
I wonder what prompted the Starbucks employee to call the police? I'm thinking there may be more to this story than race.
Considering that Starbucks declined to press charges and has since apologized I'm inclined to believe the people who actually witnessed the event rather than make random speculation to try and justify the manager's actions.
So much for their supposedly liberal bias shown in the design of their holiday cups.
When I was a teen my friends and I were yelled at for using a restaurant bathroom but not eating there and told to leave which we did, having already done our business. No chance we we would ever go purchase a meal there.
I did go to the auto dealership with their junk mail in hand recently to try again to stop the spam and robocalls and got past the gatekeeper into a manager's office. They told me I was on private property and if I did not leave they would call police. I left. I bought two cars from this dealership but no chance I will ever give them another penny.
The Starbucks manager is an idiot who does not understand the power of word of mouth to affect sales, or the concept that the customer or potential customer is always right.
I remember when fast food restaurants came to the east coast, and the joy that you could use a clean restroom for free on trips, versus having to buy overpriced gas along the interstate, then borrow a key to use a rundown service station bathroom accesssed from the exterior of the building. And lots of people buy something when they stop.
Barnes and Noble also won me over by providing couches (since removed) and saying you can sit and read their books, versus local booksellers who yelled at me for reading the book blurbs to see if I wanted to get the books. I have spent lots of money ar B&N and not gone to the other places in decades.
The manager should be fired.
The manager should be fired.Agreed, but now we're in the era where every stupid decision someone might make is an example of "white privilege", and will require a more robust social response. One of our social justice warrior members has recently started talking about life imprisonment for this sort of thing, although I think that's a bit excessive.
Teacher Terry
4-15-18, 6:15pm
Yes the manager should be fired and the staff trained so this does not happen again.
I would agree that it’s not white provelge if this manager makes a habit of tossing out everyone who is waiting for their friend/acquaintence before making a purchase. But if she does that she probably doesnt have a good grasp of what managers do since from what i see in most starbucks half her day wpuld be consumed with acting as a bouncer.
ApatheticNoMore
4-15-18, 7:19pm
When I was a teen my friends and I were yelled at for using a restaurant bathroom but not eating there and told to leave which we did, having already done our business. No chance we we would ever go purchase a meal there.
that I don't get. If you use the restroom somewhere it is habit to buy something eventually even if just a coffee. Seems to me that is simple etiquette. We did that even when we stopped on a long car trip at Micky D's.
Since we have massive homeless everywhere, free bathrooms should be readily available perhaps, but that is another discussion for another day (not for nothing do we have hepatitis outbreaks etc..)
The McDonald's in Stockton, CA had locked bathrooms. For us, simple Midwesterners, it was one of the stranger occurrences in CA.
that I don't get. If you use the restroom somewhere it is habit to buy something eventually even if just a coffee. Seems to me that is simple etiquette. We did that even when we stopped on a long car trip at Micky D's.
Since we have massive homeless everywhere, free bathrooms should be readily available perhaps, but that is another discussion for another day (not for nothing do we have hepatitis outbreaks etc..)
If there is no sign it is for customers only it is fair game. Barnes and Noble also lets you use the bathroom for free. Smart companies are happy for foot traffic at a time when brick and mortar stores are struggling. They can code the toilet paper to goodwill on their G/L.
ApatheticNoMore
4-16-18, 12:59am
The McDonald's in Stockton, CA had locked bathrooms. For us, simple Midwesterners, it was one of the stranger occurrences in CA.
at a job interview recently I was in a different part of town stopping at a coffee house and I asked while buying something (etiquette) if I could use the restroom and what I needed to do to do so. I was literally blown away when they said: just walk right in. What? No code? No key? I was in shock, thinking: things are really different in this part of town. I mean it actually took me by surprise.
So yea I think who really thinks coffee house restrooms are open to everyone and yes if you ask they probably will give you the key or the code, even if you don't make a purchase (but then this depends - it's easy if you look middle class like me).
catherine
4-16-18, 10:08am
I'm with ANM. It's courtesy to buy a small cup of coffee or SOMETHING in return for the business allowing you to use their rest room. I don't think businesses should have to post a Customers Only sign.
As for this white privilege incident, I think it's an example of what happens every day if you're black, but we can't experience it if we're white. So, we can assume a) that there was a legitimate reason for the manager to call the police--i.e., they really WERE being disruptive in some way--but that never came out of either the article or the police chief's statement or b) there was discrimination involved. If the manager was treating those guys differently because they happened to be black, she shouldn't be in the position of manager.
For the record, if I were waiting for a friend in Starbucks and taking up table space, I'd also buy a small coffee just because I'm taking up a table that could go to a real patron. If I didn't plan on buying something, I'd wait for my friend in the car.
It will be interesting to see whether this was just a rare one-time event of if we're about to have a new "me too" moment where thousands of black people recount similar stories. Hopefully this really is just one manager making one bad decision.
Personally waiting in the car is not always an option because 1) as often as not I haven't driven to get to there, and 2) I don't always know the person I'm meeting. I regularly have to meet new people in the course of my work.
My parents lived hand to mouth and my brother had bladder issues, so my mother knew where every bathroom in every store was. If she had to buy something every time they would have gone bankrupt. Not everyone can afford Starbucks prices, or maybe the guys wanted to wait and order coffee when the person they were meeting with arrived, rather than buy two cups.
What"s the alternative? Pee in the street? That's real great for public hygiene. And try doing that as a woman, especially if you're not wearing a skirt. Pee in your pants and walk around smelling like urine? With an aging population there will be fewer and fewer people who can hold it. Already I carry around spare underwear in case I sneeze too hard. A little consideration of people's biological needs would be helpful, instead of trying to arrest our way out of this problem.
When you gotta go you gotta go.
Simplemind
4-16-18, 11:27am
Keeping a restroom clean and pristine (the way we would all like it) comes at a cost. I would never enter a restaurant to use their bathroom and not at least buy a beverage. We have a large homeless population and they will take over bathrooms and become aggressive about it. I don't believe it is a public right to have access to a private bathroom. If they want to offer it, lovely. I also had the kid who wanted the bathroom in almost every establishment we entered. Luckily we were in each with the intention to make a purchase.
iris lilies
4-16-18, 11:51am
Yesterday I went to Hardees to use their wifi. I stood inside until establishng that their wifi worked, and when that was clear, I bought coffee and sat down to use wifi and drink the coffee. The place was empty.
I will admit to having used restrooms at mcdonalds without buying something, but that was only occasional use, I dont like to do it.
If the establishment asks you to leave because you havent purchased something, you either leave or you purchase something.
I own several pieces of commercial real estate in town. They have bathrooms in shared hallway spaces that the public could in theory use. When I bought them, against the advice of other property owners in the village, I made the restrooms open and unlocked. That idea lasted about a year. The cost of keeping them clean and useable was insane, and the public treated the restrooms dreadfully.
There is not a single business in our small village with restrooms available to casual users at this point. Every effort to establish one has ended in disaster. The County stepped up to the plate a few years back and build a $250k palace of a public bathroom on our town green, designed to withstand a prison riot. It too is a disaster.
Teacher Terry
4-16-18, 1:46pm
I am mentoring 4 college students and I did not know what they looked like. We met at Starbucks and I sat down without buying anything until they arrived and then I bought everyone coffee. It seems to me to be a fairly normal thing to wait for the person you are meeting.
As for this white privilege incident, I think it's an example of what happens every day if you're black, but we can't experience it if we're white.
Just ran into this article in the NYT, Dear White America (https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/12/24/dear-white-america/), which relates to my comment and also to the OPs topic
Don’t tell me about how many black friends you have. Don’t tell me that you are married to someone of color. Don’t tell me that you voted for Obama. Don’t tell me that I’m the racist. Don’t tell me that you don’t see color. Don’t tell me that I’m blaming whites for everything. To do so is to hide yet again. You may have never used the N-word in your life, you may hate the K.K.K., but that does not mean that you don’t harbor racism and benefit from racism. After all, you are part of a system that allows you to walk into stores where you are not followed, where you get to go for a bank loan and your skin does not count against you, where you don’t need to engage in “the talk” that black people and people of color must tell their children when they are confronted by white police officers.
Yes--that blather about being a "post-racial society" is just an excuse to sweep the problem aside; it's a very real one for people of color.
I own several pieces of commercial real estate in town. They have bathrooms in shared hallway spaces that the public could in theory use. When I bought them, against the advice of other property owners in the village, I made the restrooms open and unlocked. That idea lasted about a year. The cost of keeping them clean and useable was insane, and the public treated the restrooms dreadfully.
There is not a single business in our small village with restrooms available to casual users at this point. Every effort to establish one has ended in disaster. The County stepped up to the plate a few years back and build a $250k palace of a public bathroom on our town green, designed to withstand a prison riot. It too is a disaster.
I have seen the opposite trend. Public libraries where you used to have to get a key are now open. I am guessing they want EMTs to be able to get to someone who ODs. There are posters on the walls offering rehab services. I also went to a cemetary restroom within the past year and you could close but not lock the door. There are panhandlers in the area who could probably get the change for a cup of coffee if that were a requirement to use the restroom. It would not prevent them from using it for other than its intended purpose.
I suspect one of our problems is that we are infested year-round with tourists/visitors, who may not have much social capital invested in keeping things nice.
ApatheticNoMore
4-16-18, 3:25pm
You may have never used the N-word in your life, you may hate the K.K.K., but that does not mean that you don’t harbor racism and benefit from racism. After all, you are part of a system that allows you to walk into stores where you are not followed, where you get to go for a bank loan and your skin does not count against you, where you don’t need to engage in “the talk” that black people and people of color must tell their children when they are confronted by white police officers.
what does any of this has to do with *harboring* racism? Absolutely nothing as far as I can tell.
It isn't really benefiting from racism either. Some things might be of limited supply like say jobs or yea loans, so if you get preferential treatment for a job due to whiteness that might be benefiting in some way (it's very hard to prove and so much else factors in but in theory, it is true in some aggregate sense). Since the world is dog eat dog, people will take what advantages they can, oh for the same reason everyone isn't only working moral upstanding jobs but people benefit from selling legal opiates, and making more fattening junk food. And really for the same reason that if he was offered a raise that a coworker (let's say of the same race) wasn't but was equally or more deserving of he would probably *still* accept it.
But not being followed in stores is not limited in supply at all really, I guess he might be arguing there is some social benefit to it though, which is odd because I don't think most people think of it that way, but I guess you could argue that (i.e. there is social benefit to following people in stores, if only blacks are followed whites get some of this benefit without paying the cost of it - some kind of free rider argument I guess ...).
iris lilies
4-16-18, 3:37pm
what does any of this has to do with *harboring* racism? Absolutely nothing as far as I can tell...?).
Oh thats just the lofty NYT giving us rubes an edifying lecture. They do love to fancy themselves educators. Par for the course.
I once remarked to a friend that our worst possible political fate would be rule by the Times’ editorial staff.
She countered that rule by people who post comments on the Times’ site would be even worse.
We subscribe to the Times. Their opinion of people like my wife and I is....amazing. We might as well be space aliens to them.
It isn't really benefiting from racism either.
My take, after reading the piece, was that it's not so much "benefiting from racism" as it is "benefiting from not being viewed negatively by someone with a racist perspective". I'll leave it to others to decide if it was just poor/sloppy choice of words by the author or if I'm changing what they intended.
My take, after reading the piece, was that it's not so much "benefiting from racism" as it is "benefiting from not being viewed negatively by someone with a racist perspective". I
So the non-enemy of my enemy is my enemy?
So the non-enemy of my enemy is my enemy?
I was thinking more "benefiting from not being the target of the a-hole's ire"
ApatheticNoMore
4-17-18, 10:55am
I was thinking more "benefiting from not being the target of the a-hole's ire"
that part I wouldn't even call privilege anymore much less would I call it Being a Racist, just not being a target of an a-hole. That's just what everyone should have.
ok, in my effort to simplify for LDAHL I oversimplified. Let's try this again. "benefiting from not having skin color that insight's a group of a-holes' ire"
ok, in my effort to simplify for LDAHL I oversimplified.
I think the real simplification is to assume that every non-positive interaction between members of different races involves racial animus.
I was thinking more "benefiting from not being the target of the a-hole's ire"
The guy's point seemed clear enough: no matter how you act or what you think, you "harbor and benefit from racism" by virtue of your skin.
If the only relevant factor is my skin, which I can't change, I see nothing actionable here.
ApatheticNoMore
4-17-18, 2:16pm
benefit from maybe but only if it's zero sum (and there really are a lot of poor white people whose benefits if they do exists are so narrowly defined as to almost be a moot point IMO). But harbor - uh no, you simply can't say that. It's one thing to say structural racism exists and another thing to make a flying leap: therefore if you are white you are racist as an individual! And with him it's not even a matter of: you have unconscious prejudice, which isn't unique to white cultures ... the same thing can be shown in dominant cultures elsewhere etc. Not it's just unqualified racism. Yea nothing actionable.
I almost wonder if getting a lot out of such writings on privilege is itself a symptom of privilege. I mean I think about the type of person (typical NYT stereotyped reader) who would and think: wow probably has the type of economic privilege that is never going to change or be threatened in any way. Because if you are going to get evicted and will be homeless next month and find some income to tide you over, you might not have much luxury to question and feel guilty about whether or not being white had anything to do with it or not (I realize it's not all white versus black, that some other ethnic groups get almost all jobs through referral etc. - except it does exist, for example my boyfriends prior company actually explicitly didn't want to interview a black guy ... they had plenty of whites and Hispanics but had never hired a black before ..).
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/us/black-women-golfers-york.html
White privilege v. 453, not having the police called on you when you golf too slowly. And since one of the golfers in the group behind them said they were keeping pace, maybe it's actually just the privilege of not having the police called for playing golf at any speed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/us/black-women-golfers-york.html
White privilege v. 453, not having the police called on you when you golf too slowly. And since one of the golfers in the group behind them said they were keeping pace, maybe it's actually just the privilege of not having the police called for playing golf at any speed.
Unbelievable.
Not enough details. There have been times when I’ve wanted to call in the National Guard when stuck behind a gaggle of meandering chowderheads. Who plays in groups of five anyway?
Not enough details. There have been times when I’ve wanted to call in the National Guard when stuck behind a gaggle of meandering chowderheads. Who plays in groups of five anyway?
True. The article didn't mention all the times the owner of the course called the cops when he thought white people were playing too slowly...
True. The article didn't mention all the times the owner of the course called the cops when he thought white people were playing too slowly...
What would be the point of that?
A fivesome holding up play should be shot! What kind of club would allow this? At the club I’m a member at if your a fivesome you better be fast, if you were to hold anyone up you would be forced to let everyone play thru or break up. And not allowed to do it again.
im not sure the cops would be called, unless the group didn’t listen to the ranger or other club personnel.
im wondering if there is more to this story?
True. The article didn't mention all the times the owner of the course called the cops when he thought white people were playing too slowly...
I’ll bet it happens. I doubt a starter would allow a five-some at most clubs. Those guys can be strict. I wondered if the ladies offered to let the cops play through.
What would be the point of that?
Considering that the demographics of the club are heavily weighted towards white people it has presumably happened dozens of times. The fact that the article didnt mention it makes me think it’s unlikely to have ever happened. When i met him SO was the HR director for a chain of country clubs in NJ and eastern PA. Before telling him about this article I asked him how often they used to call teh cops about slow play and he got a quizical look on his face and asked ‘what the eff kind of question is that? Who would do that?’
Considering that the demographics of the club are heavily weighted towards white people it has presumably happened dozens of times. The fact that the article didnt mention it makes me think it’s unlikely to have ever happened.
The article also failed to mention how many non-white groups have played there without incident, so should we assume that's never happened?
That's my problem with stories like this, they provide just enough info to advance a preferred narrative, but not enough to prove it.
Teacher Terry
4-26-18, 1:44pm
With social media the golf club was really stupid to do this. I bet it will cost them some business and it should. It also appears that they were not golfing too slow as the people behind them had not caught up with them. Glad I don't golf. Sounds like a bunch of snobs to me. I find it funny that they picked on people who actually have the resources to combat this type of treatment.
Teacher Terry
4-28-18, 12:34pm
I just saw an online article that this episode has really hurt the golf club. Also a place that sells them cigars no longer will since they don't want to be aligned with this type of attitude.
white privelege v. 454. Not having the cops called on you when you take a nap in the common room at your grad school dorm.
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2018/05/08/black-student-reported-to-ypd-for-napping-in-dormitory-common-room/
catherine
5-10-18, 12:18pm
Wow.
“You’re in a Yale Building and we need to make sure that you belong here,” one of the officers said to Siyonbola.
In other words, "You're black so you're obviously not a Yalie."
Wow.
Wow.
“You’re in a Yale Building and we need to make sure that you belong here,” one of the officers said to Siyonbola.
In other words, "You're black so you're obviously not a Yalie."
Wow.
I'm not sure where the white privilege comes into play here. The story doesn't give any detail other than the barest implication that race was involved.
Having responded to more than my fair share of reports of persons down I think it's more probable that someone was concerned with her welfare when she was noticed sleeping in the building. Once that call was made, it becomes necessary for the responders to identify and ensure the safety of the person down, which probably took a few minutes longer to accomplish since her name was mis-spelled (according to the story).
If I were an activist I'd be careful about presenting things like this as some sort of social ill without more evidence. When every interaction between members of different races is seen as discriminatory, then nothing is discriminatory.
If I were an activist I'd be careful about presenting things like this as some sort of social ill without more evidence. When every interaction between members of different races is seen as discriminatory, then nothing is discriminatory.
I don't think anyone was concerned about HER welfare--the caller was apparently afraid or overly cautious. If you read the comments, some of the defenders of the caller actually use the defense, "Well, you know, Yale is in a very dangerous area of New Haven." and "Just last week someone broke in and stole..." That may be true, but if the sleeper had been white, do you think anyone would rush to an assumption that she was a potential threat from the bad part of town? Be honest. Or is this a case of acceptable racial profiling?
Maybe it’s just me but if i was concerned for her welfare i wouldnt have called the police, i would have said ‘hey! You ok?’
Maybe I've missed it but I didn't see anything in the article about the callers motivation, everything you've mentioned is speculation by anonymous commenters and your own further speculation based theirs. I'd be interested in additional facts before making up my mind, but that's me.
Maybe it’s just me but if i was concerned for her welfare i wouldnt have called the police, i would have said ‘hey! You ok?’
Maybe they did. Details are extremely sparse.
If you read the comments, some of the defenders of the caller actually use the defense, "Well, you know, Yale is in a very dangerous area of New Haven."
When I was looking at colleges, I got about two blocks from the New Haven train station walking to the university, turned around, and got back on the train - it looked like a war zone. This was some time ago. Modern-day statistics indicate it isn't a garden spot still, crime-wise.
When I was looking at colleges, I got about two blocks from the New Haven train station walking to the university, turned around, and got back on the train - it looked like a war zone. This was some time ago. Modern-day statistics indicate it isn't a garden spot still, crime-wise.
I know. I grew up just west of New Haven. I'm well aware of its problems. But that still doesn't justify assuming a black person on campus is a threat.
iris lilies
5-10-18, 1:40pm
Wow.
“You’re in a Yale Building and we need to make sure that you belong here,” one of the officers said to Siyonbola.
In other words, "You're black so you're obviously not a Yalie."
Wow.
another hyberbolic post by the victim crowd.
did you watch her video? The facts I got from her own video were:
1) she was sleeping in an area of the dorm where sleeping is not allowed
2) a fellow student called the police because of the sleeping
3) police come, ask politely for ID which she gives up politely
4) ID does not match anything in the student database and suspicion grows
i dont find anything wrong with “need to make sure you belong here ” since thats what i look out for on my block. Someone sitting on the steps of my neighbor’s house? Do they belong here? Someone sleeping in my garage doorway in the alley, do they belong here? Someone sitting inside my car, looking through the glove compartment. Hell no he doesnt “belong here.”
All of these things took place within tje past few weeks on my block and yes, these were all African American persons who—guess what—“dont belong here” i.e. were trespassing.
While we are encouraged to call the cops in these instances,
we called only in the last instance because I am retired, and have the time to monitor this behavior by openly staring at the interlopers and making sure they see me. When they dont belong here, they move on.
Now, I dont know why this woman’s fellow student called the cops. If she didnt know the sleeper after nearly an academic year of living in the same building, that was justified. It too bad. But I suspect that the caller didnt want to confront the sleeper herself. I see a lot of this in my neighborhood, complaints from people about the behavior of others, but they are completely u willing to nicely point out that such and such behavior is not allowed. They escalate to blasting on social media or calling the cops.
I know. I grew up just west of New Haven. I'm well aware of its problems. But that still doesn't justify assuming a black person on campus is a threat.
I didn't say it did, I was merely commenting on the post-Dresden-firebombing aesthetic of New Haven.
I didn't say it did, I was merely commenting on the post-Dresden-firebombing aesthetic of New Haven.
I get it. You just have to know the right roads into town. :)
Maybe they did. Details are extremely sparse.
If they did i seriously doubt they would have called the police. The woman was asleep not comatose.
another hyberbolic post by the victim crowd.
did you watch her video? The facts I got from her own video were:
1) she was sleeping in an area of the dorm where sleeping is not allowed
2) a fellow student called the police because of the sleeping
3) police come, ask politely for ID which she gives up politely
4) ID does not match anything in the student database and suspicion grows
I question #2 "because of the sleeping." Honestly, I know this is not based on facts presented in this case, but I truly feel that if that woman had been white there is no way the other woman would have made the call. In fact, apparently, this is not the first time she's called the police on a BPOC (black person on campus).
Whether legally this was fine or not, I do not know any one in my white WASP-y community who ever was questioned about "being in the right place." And I'm pretty old. And I have a feeling that if I were a black living in a black community I'd have a different answer at this stage of my life.
I can’t help but notice that a high proportion of these twitchy incidents seem to occur at the ivies, ivy-adjacents and ivy-wannabes. Places like Yale, Duke, Princeton, Clemson, etc.
You don’t hear as much coming out of the Big Ten educational feedlots such as I attended. I wonder why that is. Are they not firing baristas for uncensored Spotify playlists in flyover schools, or are we just not hearing about it?
Don’t worry. It’s not just the fancy pants schools.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/05/04/us/colorado-state-university-racial-profiling-trnd/index.html
What "twitchy incidents" have happened at Princeton recently?
What "twitchy incidents" have happened at Princeton recently?
I was thinking of the ongoing effort to make Woodrow Wilson an unperson and the striking of “master” from the vocabulary.
Don’t worry. It’s not just the fancy pants schools.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/05/04/us/colorado-state-university-racial-profiling-trnd/index.html
That’s certainly silliness worthy of a coast.
iris lilies
5-10-18, 6:13pm
I question #2 "because of the sleeping." Honestly, I know this is not based on facts presented in this case, but I truly feel that if that woman had been white there is no way the other woman would have made the call. In fact, apparently, this is not the first time she's called the police on a BPOC (black person on campus)...
yes, I agree with this mostly, but not 100%. It is impossible to know what caused the college student to call campus police.
I am guessing that these students are urged, for their own safety, to call campus police if they think something is amiss. Unfortunately that bar for “amiss” is ill defined and vague, so for some people it is pretty low.
Here in Murder City we constantly debate instances of appropriateness for calling the police. And many who DO call are jeered and maligned. But whatever, we as citizens have to take action that seems right for our community. We dont all have the same reaction to the same stimuli.
There is no doubt in my mind that African American persons are looked upon with suspicion far more often than I am, for
instance, in most situations. There is also no doubt in my mind that our current social climate gives a pass to behavior from the ghetto demographic because of ongoing racist attitudes.
It is this latter mindset that makes me want ro move away from St. louis. I could give details of the tide thatnis turning, but it is boring.
Teacher Terry
5-10-18, 6:26pm
I certainly would not want to live with all the crime that you are experiencing. I would not want to have people sneaking around all the time either. Too much stress in my old age. When I lived in Wichita our neighborhood was ethnically mixed. However, it was middle class with none of the issues you are experiencing.
Our neighborhood and all the ones around it are seriously gentrifying. This brings its own problems.
white privelege v. 454. Being able to take your son for a walk without having the rent-a-cops called on you.
https://www.theroot.com/black-father-stopped-by-security-after-white-woman-call-1826082634
iris lilies
5-17-18, 10:08pm
http://www.newsweek.com/white-farmer-killed-every-five-days-south-africa-authorities-do-nothing-851470
being white works well for these farmers. White privelege rocks!
http://www.newsweek.com/white-farmer-killed-every-five-days-south-africa-authorities-do-nothing-851470
being white works well for these farmers. White privilege rocks!
Would you be happier if we just called it majority privilege? People attacking minority white farmers on the other side of the world is just as wrong as people calling the cops just because a scary black person was existing nearby closer to home. Neither is right but it seems silly to suggest that because things are different in a different society somehow white privilege doesn't exist here. The worst thing that ever happened to my dad when he was walking me as a small kid was that people accused him of being my grandfather. It undoubtedly never occurred to him to be worried that the cops would be called.
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