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And I didn't pass my plan. I asked if I was on track before the summer prep that gave me a breakdown. He said it came down to one thing, that I disagree with and have evidence for. I already wrote that document so I will just send it and not get worked up.
Meanwhile sup was there when my staff was leaving and saying goodbye. I lots of hugs, sharing emails, and telling them to find me on FB. So he saw that, and commented on how much people love me. Even parents knew my name and welcomed me back. So screw the rest.
Oh yeah I saved everyones bum today. We had a field trip scheduled for today and the place needs their own special waiver. We didn't have the parents do them and no one was even aware they needed to be done. I realized it yesterday afternoon and they were able to work out a movie theater deal instead. No thanks for that, but everyone was busy pulling off a miracle
But, now your done! Able to move on with your life. I know I have been in your shoes and it is really hard not
to keep reliving the issues over and over. I can tell you it will only hard you.
Glad you are out of there!
rosarugosa
7-22-18, 11:11am
Yes - on to the next chapter and hoping it is a wonderful one!
It won't be long into the new school year when I expect you'll see a job posting for sup's position.
Teacher Terry
7-22-18, 11:19am
Enjoy your time off and let everything go.
I do think of my old job from time to time and see the constant advertising on Indeed for positions in my former department. Where I am now turnover is extremely low. I hope this is your experience also ZG.
iris lilies
7-22-18, 12:56pm
It won't be long into the new school year when I expect you'll see a job posting for sup's position.
Haha, yep!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:cool: breathe in.......breathe out. It is finished.
Thank you all, I just got the letter telling me my status and my score on my review. Kinda hard. I got rated as low as you can go without getting fired. Probably would be fired if I didn't have health issues, many years and was leaving. So I am conditionally re-hireable in the district, not great but not un-rehireable. I don't think I want to ever go back but I also know that sometimes new jobs ask about this. I thought I at least got a needs improvement but I got lower than that. That is pretty hard to take right now but actually waiting for it has been worse. I did everything I thought I was asked to do in my improvement plan, but really could not win with this guy. I have my list of 15 things I asked for that I was not responded to and haven't decided whether or not to turn that in.
Of course pissed off but calm. They put in my improvement plan that I have inefficient work habits and therefore my work load is unsustainable. Like who decides this? And was that before or after 6 of us in the same position quit? I will note that I was told I could have support and coaching on this issue and never received any. They also finalized my review on July 20th, the last day before I left for my vacation. I have not been able to review it like I should have been able to 24 hours before I have to sign off on it.
The temper thing, Looking back at losing my temper. Of course 3 out of 4 of us did, but I really lost my temper at times. So I have some insight about this after retreat and need to go forward and work on it. Someone (who is actually really unstable) told me that no one cares why you lost your temper, justified or not, just how you acted. I acted pretty crappy on the first hour back at work when they listed out everything I had not done in the days leading up to my breakdown, all they wanted was for me to take responsibility and I was just so fragile that I was basically arguing back that it was unsustainable work assignment. I don't know what to say, I was losing track, leaving every day in tears, etc. But sometimes mental health looks like that. This is the first time I am going to admit that I was as close to harming myself as I have ever been the last few days I went to work before the break down. Not to cause trauma in anyone reading this, I walked out and called the DR immediately, but I can accept it all better this way.
Going to storage, picking up materials to return to site, and check out at 12:30.
I will note that I was told I could have support and coaching on this issue and never received any.
Not to take anything away from this sucky situation you were in..but didn't your supervisor shadow you one day and you were too busy to really engage with him. Is it possible that was his attempt at support and coaching (even though it may not have come in exactly the package you wanted/expected)?
Why do you have to sign it? I'm not understanding why you would need to sign off on this.
Just to be clearer, here is my opinion, since you are soliciting opinions. Others may disagree with my opinion, and it may not be of interest to you, either, and that is absolutely fine--you are in control here of this situation.
I would not sign this. I would tell them I am not signing anything unless my attorney tells me to.
I would take copy of report to employment lawyer and see what employment lawyer says.
I would be pleasant and calm and in control. But I would not sign a document I thought was fraudulent and meant to hurt me.
iris lilies
7-30-18, 10:15am
Why do you have to sign it? I'm not understanding why you would need to sign off on this.
Signing a performance appraisal simply means she has received and read it, it does not signal agreement.
In this situation signing or not signing it isnt important.
The important thing is to move on as Tammy suggests.
Again, just my opinion: if it is not important to sign it, then I see no reason to sign it. If I were she, and I signed it, I would feel I had betrayed myself by participating in their attack on me.
Just my opinion, it is totally up to Zoe Girl.
iris lilies
7-30-18, 10:47am
The “signing” bit is the end of a performance appraisal process. It is intended to document that emplyee had access to the performance review.
If ZG doesn't sign it, the supervisor will likely make a note “employee refused to sign” and it is done.
I do not know if this affects her ability to be hired in this school district in the future. I doubt it, but I believe that is the issue she is thinking of.
As a manager, if the process says employee must sign, then the employee must sign. When I have an employee who disagrees, they may write that they disagree along with their signature. They also can write their own evaluation comments. I encourage you to do so such that they are on file. Also leave with a copy of the complete document including your comments attached.
The “signing” bit is the end of a performance appraisal process. It is intended to document that emplyee had access to the performance review.
If ZG doesn't sign it, the supervisor will likely make a note “employee refused to sign” and it is done.
I do not know if this affects her ability to be hired in this school district in the future. I doubt it, but I believe that is the issue she is thinking of.
I understand. I was also asking the question you ask in your last paragraph--what is the effect of not signing. I understand that the system wants her to sign. I also understand that they can write anything they want if she does not sign. I do know that sometimes, attorneys tell you not to sign documents unless they have reviewed them.
I have felt in this that Zoe Girl needs to see an employment attorney. And it is totally up to her to decide what she wants to do with all our input, including mine.
I signed with the note that my input would be included. I will see what my new insurance is like and if i ca n keep my counselor. He was more into that they were crap instead of me needing to work on myself.
Very anticlimactic, at his desk in an open area, many people were so happy for me leaving and that helped.
And i am SOOO letting go, I feel it in my body and my mind. Now to work on some new job tasks and schedule car repair. Thank you all SO MUCH for believing in me, i am not sure how i would have managed the last 6 months without this group. You have been honest, real, kind, everything. So go check out my retreat post, ahhhh
No he didnt shadow, someone last year offeredto to but we never set it up, not either persons fault. This yearand i have my list of 15 requests for feedback or support. I am okay letting that go, reflecting on my temper and work as a manager, moving the F on ( inner punk girl never quite dies)
Good for you, and way to go! Glad you are starting your new job, and really impressed at how quickly you set that up--fantastic work.
Teacher Terry
7-30-18, 4:04pm
Zoe, I am so happy you have a new job! You may have made mistakes but you were in a impossible situation.
No he didnt shadow, someone last year offeredto to but we never set it up, not either persons fault.
Ah, I had remembered this thread you had, where he offered to do that to support you. I was not aware it never actually happened.
Hey all, in my last wonderful conversation with supervisor he wanted to help me be more efficient, and his idea was to shadow me one day
Go, girl and be at peace!
OOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMM:cool:
Ah, I had remembered this thread you had, where he offered to do that to support you. I was not aware it never actually happened.
Oh yes Herb, I remember that now. Maybe I can add that to my list of 15 items of times that he simply did not follow through. While I was talking to him to check out he was asked by another supervisor if he did a (small) task and he simply said no. Maybe there was some projection since he was likely under a lot of scrutiny for how HE does not get things done.
I said that in the PAST, yes baby steps
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