View Full Version : Hoping for the best for the Carolinas......
gimmethesimplelife
9-12-18, 10:45pm
I've been reading about Florence which is said to be soon approaching the Carolinas.........Hoping for the best for this part of the country.
I have a friend in Charleston, SC, who lives in a zip code similar to mine and who left Charleston a day ago. I have not heard from her or her fiance and I'm worried but then again, Florence has yet to hit so it can't be that.
Just hoping that we don't have another Harvey/Katrina on our hands with untold numbers of displaced people......Rob
We’re already prepping here for the response.
Teacher Terry
9-13-18, 12:17am
So glad I live on the west coast now.
Next year I hoped to visit the Outer Banks. I hope they have a sppedy recovery.
This January when I went to San Antonio a beach in Corpus Christi, Mustang State Park, was still closed from the hurricane the previous year, and I'm lucky I saw Jazzland amusement park in New Orleans, which was destroyed by Katrina and never did reopen, when I did.
Our home is west and north of Charlotte. They are preparing like crazy there. Power outages are a regular thing anyway, so with the storm they think it's a given that they will need to live without power for some time.
Praying for those on the coastal areas.
Living in Florida, I've been there and done that too many times!
It's pretty scary. I can't imagine having to pick what things to flee with, in case everything else is gone after it hits. (Photo albums, favorite things, books, cameras, back-up computer things, etc. And isn't there a couple more tropical storms forming off Africa? I wonder how long these things will happen before people decide it's just too risky to live so close to the ocean. Seems like it's either heaven or hell. The news interviewed a couple that weren't leaving.......even with their 2 young kids. They said they had no money for gas, hotels, or food. Seems like you're taking a chance with your children's lives. There are a lot of safer shelters around there. I hope they're not making a big mistake.
It's all pretty scary.
CathyA,
I saw that same interview. And the other thing the Mom mentioned was being away from their home for a month or more was not something they wanted to do (I'm guessing because of fear of looting and coming home to nothing.)
It's only Stuff, people!
But I do wish there would have been a citizen outreach to temporarily house some people - I think that would have made the whole ordeal easier on the hurricane refugees vs. sitting in an overcrowded shelter.
Miss Cellaneous
9-13-18, 11:17am
My cousin lives in Charleston, South Carolina. His job is considered "essential," (he works at the port), so he has to stay. But he has sent his wife and two children and the dog to stay with his mom in Florida, yielding a bunch of jokes about sheltering from a hurricane in Florida of all places.
I just hope everyone stays safe.
Even though the storm has been downgraded to a Category 2, it can still do a lot of damage. Irene was "just" a tropical storm when it hit New England. There were towns in Vermont, which has no coastline, that were completely cut off for days--roads out, hundreds of bridges out, telephone lines and cell towers and power lines down. The storm caused millions of dollars in damage from flooding. I think it's the flooding that will be the real danger with Florence, as well.
Teacher Terry
9-13-18, 11:38am
If the family couldn’t afford a motel they should have went to a shelter. Not worth the risk to the kids to stay.
Several years ago I visited a friend who lives in Raleigh. I drove 16 hours as I dislike flying. Friend said I wasn’t go to drive that far without visiting the Atlantic. We went to Wilmington and then a bit south to Kure Beach. Lovely area. I’m sure the area will see a lot of damage. I pulled out my pictures from the trip last night to look at.
People grumble about winter in the Midwest and yes, we do get tornadoes, but having to evacuate several million people? Nope.
When Hugo hit Sept '89. I thought we'd still see a lot of damage the next February. We saw some but not as bad as I thought and the family properties on the beach at Hilton Head were ok.
Husband's family is inland SC (Aiken) and I've got a son up in the mountains of NC (Banner Elk) where the college has told everyone to stay on campus. He's worried about the car...his parking spot is in a low lot next to a tumbling mountain creek. He was scheduled to spend the weekend on top of Grandfather Mountain doing a hawk count. Guess that's out.
I just don't understand all the people who stayed. This probably sounds heartless, but why rescue them and put the rescuers in danger. If people weren't rescued, maybe their choice the next time might be different, if they knew no one would come.
Teacher Terry
9-14-18, 11:27am
They have been told that they won’t be rescued. It was all over the news.
iris lilies
9-14-18, 11:33am
Events like these thin the herds.
Teacher Terry
9-14-18, 11:37am
Exactly!
We've spent the past several Christmases on the Outer Banks (Avon, Rodanthe, Ocracoke) and have really grown to love the area. Maybe this year we'll move down to the Gulf.
They have been told that they won’t be rescued. It was all over the news.
Well, listen to the news tonight. Volunteers are coming from everywhere to rescue hundreds of people. I can understand it, if the flooding is happening in places where it wasn't supposed to reach, but they are rescuing people they said they wouldn't.
Hopefully the volunteers are not self-deploying.
iris lilies
9-14-18, 5:54pm
Hopefully the volunteers are not self-deploying.
...or else they will need ro be rescued, too.what a shitshow.
Teacher Terry
9-14-18, 7:00pm
Cathy, that’s interesting. Hope they are trained volunteers.
...or else they will need ro be rescued, too.what a shitshow.
Literally. They have a lot of "lagoons" full of hog waste in harm's way.
Literally. They have a lot of "lagoons" full of hog waste in harm's way.
I developed a serious fungal infection from responding to a previous flooded area a few years back, and I was in full PPE. Ick ick ick. Took months to fully recover.
Cathy, that’s interesting. Hope they are trained volunteers.
Yes, I think they are rescue groups (like water rescue) from other states....and people around there with boats that are going house to house, but I think the majority of them are specialists.
What bad judgement that was for so many to stay put.
And you know, everyone will rebuild there again.
Teacher Terry
9-14-18, 11:26pm
The very definition of insanity.
I developed a serious fungal infection from responding to a previous flooded area a few years back, and I was in full PPE. Ick ick ick. Took months to fully recover.
That bodes no good for a widely flooded population in a warm climate--who aren't protected head to toe.
For anyone who wants to help non-humans in the area:
https://wingsofrescue.org/
Gifts are being matched right now.
iris lilies
9-15-18, 11:51am
Last night at our neighborhood social when we talked about this,
I stated my concern for the buildings of
Charleston. The people are replaceable, with more people. But those old houses, once they are gone no one is gonna replace them. No one shamed me for that sentiment, we are a bunch of house huggers.
Charleston is the No #1 tourist destination in the U.S. I know, a surprise, right? Look it up! I was surprised.
Some day DH and I will do a Savannah and charleston vacation to see the old houses there. These hurricanes had better stay away from them.!!!
Teacher Terry
9-15-18, 11:58am
I love love old houses but saying people are replaceable. Ugh!
gimmethesimplelife
9-15-18, 3:14pm
Good news.....from what I just heard from my friend who fled Charleston, things are not that bad in Charleston - yet. Apparently SC is said to be in for a world of flooding hurt but at the moment it's not that bad - yet. Maybe this will give die hards a chance to flee before things get really bad if they indeed do? Rob
gimmethesimplelife
9-15-18, 3:18pm
I love love old houses but saying people are replaceable. Ugh!I noticed that, too. Gotta say that sentiment is something I hold against both US and Western Culture in general. I just can't internalize that sentiment nor behave it/be guided by it.
But beyond that, I do hope the old houses in Charleston make it through unscathed or relatively so. There is a great deal of Civil War history in that part of the country and I'm not surprised that Charleston is so heavily visited. It's probably an attempt to feel some history - some connection with the past - in a society that is constantly destroying/reinventing aspects of itself. Kind of the same reason to some degree that people hold onto old photographs - to feel some kind of connection to the past. Rob
In my church days we would say the opposite - stuff is replaceable but people are not.
So many philosophies out there ... 😄
iris lilies
9-16-18, 9:53am
In my church days we would say the opposite - stuff is replaceable but people are not.
So many philosophies out there ...
Of course it is true, I just like to poke a few here to get a rise.
But, I will say that 200 year old houses are not just “stuff” and it is disrespectiful to equate them with cheap crap from
China, replaceable at the local Walmart. They really cannot be replaced even if re-built. Original materials are gone.
Teacher Terry
9-16-18, 11:11am
I agree that it would be a real loss if the houses go. Sounds like it would be a great place to visit. When we were in New Orleans we visited some of the plantations. We actually are going again for 3 days before our cruise leaves. The last time I was there was 1999.
I love love old houses but saying people are replaceable. Ugh!
I suppose it's better than saying that they didn't die at all.
Remember the neutron bomb? It was designed to kill people while leaving architectural treasures intact.
iris lilies
9-16-18, 11:57am
Remember the neutron bomb? It was designed to kill people while leaving architectural treasures intact.
I didnt realize that. So, a house hugger was behind that scientific advancement, cool.
Remember the neutron bomb? It was designed to kill people while leaving architectural treasures intact.
It was actually designed for use in space against incoming nuclear warheads, and later for use against the Soviet's huge armored divisions in Europe. The warheads are relatively small, but would still cause significant damage to structures within the effective range of the intended target, and the area wouldn't be very pleasant to be in for some time afterwards - buildings of modern construction would likely have some of their metallic components become radioactive.
It wasn't really designed to kill people while preserving structures.
dado potato
9-22-18, 10:06am
Homeowners insurance policies cover wind damage but not flood damage. Unless homeowners in the Carolinas arranged for separate insurance for flood, they will soon learn about the difference between the damage caused by the storm and the damage covered by their insurance.
Homeowners insurance policies cover wind damage but not flood damage. Unless homeowners in the Carolinas arranged for separate insurance for flood, they will soon learn about the difference between the damage caused by the storm and the damage covered by their insurance.
Isn't that what happened with a lot of homeowners after Super Storm Sandy? Lots of arguing with the insurers.
And it may be too early to discuss this, but should all of those homes be rebuilt in the same area anyway? There was some reports that realtors and others had pushed back on any zoning restrictions in recent years and so housing was allowed where it shouldn't have been. Isn't it apparent now that these coastal areas are just not all feasible as places to build?
I have a lot of empathy for those who lost their house, but now comes the part when the federal gov't will be asked to help fund rebuilding and that's the part I don't think taxpayers should have to fund.
iris lilies
9-23-18, 7:46pm
Isn't that what happened with a lot of homeowners after Super Storm Sandy? Lots of arguing with the insurers.
And it may be too early to discuss this, but should all of those homes be rebuilt in the same area anyway? There was some reports that realtors and others had pushed back on any zoning restrictions in recent years and so housing was allowed where it shouldn't have been. Isn't it apparent now that these coastal areas are just not all feasible as places to build?
I have a lot of empathy for those who lost their house, but now comes the part when the federal gov't will be asked to help fund rebuilding and that's the part I don't think taxpayers should have to fund.
I sense a lack of empathy and caring here.
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