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catherine
10-4-18, 5:29pm
I just returned from my favorite aunt's funeral. I have two more "Grand Dame" aunts surviving--both in their 90s. Soon I will be one of the family elders, and it's a strange feeling.

Anyway, I digress...

My cousin (one of the living Grand Dame's daughters) asked me to stop by to visit her mother, who is now bedridden, and I was happy to do so. I've never been to my cousin's house. She was an accountant for her entire work life. She is now 60 (she looks 10 years younger.. perhaps because she doesn't drink), but for the last 5 years she has been caring for her mother, starting from when her mother called her from out of the blue and asked her to fly out to see her at her home in Kansas because she was feeling "strange" and that one phone call precipitated dozens of doctor visits, a trip out East to stay with my cousin, the eventual liquidation and sale of my aunt's home, and the full-time care taking by my cousin.

My cousin is smart, very organized, and psychologically well-adapted. And she has a very small ranch house (frankly in some disrepair--and obviously never updated), an old-fashioned Toshiba TV (no flat screen anywhere), a flip phone, and furniture that looked like a collection of flea market finds. She drives an old car. She has never reported having gone on any travels. Yet it was clean and her mother is extremely well-cared for, by her own daughter.

My take-away was this: I knew my cousin was frugal, but I saw the living proof yesterday. She has no children of her own, but she does have a live-in partner she's been with for probably 30 years). I am assuming she has been socking away money all this time. Then, when her mother needed her, she could be there for her.

It was a pretty inspiring visit. Sometimes you work for FIRE so you can do all kinds of cool stuff. Sometimes FIRE allows you to step in to someone's life in an emergency and make a real difference.

razz
10-4-18, 6:04pm
Neat report to read. Thanks for sharing. It probably helped that the mother - daughter was harmonious or I hope that it was to make much of a contribution.

Teacher Terry
10-4-18, 8:02pm
Care taking is hard work especially at that age. I won’t do that to my kids. I hope she doesn’t resent or regret it. I helped my mom with my dad for 14 years. Bought the house next door. Flew back many times to help my mom using all my vacation and sick time but no way would I do it full time. Plus if you raise kids and then do live in care for parents when do you get to live your own life?

catherine
10-4-18, 9:43pm
Yes, it is hard work. I don't know what she actually feels about it, but she's never hinted that she resents or regrets it. She doesn't have children, so she's lived her own life for 50 or so years.

It's true that this arrangement wouldn't work for everyone. Grand Dame #1, the aunt who just died (my cousin's mom's sister) lived with her son and DIL for the last couple of years. When I was commending them both on how good they were to her, her son said that she had done so much for him his whole life, he felt he wanted to give a tiny bit back (he lived as an adult in the family home for years while establishing his own business). His wife is from Colombia, and she said that she felt very bad when she was pregnant and couldn't offer her own grandmother full time care, so she was happy to be able to do it for my aunt.

And Grand Dame #3 is currently being cared for at home by my other cousin. They have lived together for years, and my aunt is now 94. My other cousin also hasn't voiced any complaints.

Maybe I just have very selfless aunts who have raised very selfless children. I confess, I was not that selfless when it came to my own mother.

Teacher Terry
10-4-18, 10:22pm
Catherine, I am not criticizing at all. I had 2 awesome parents but wouldn’t have wanted to do it full time and we got along wonderfully. If they never had kids it would be easier. I am having my fun carefree days in my 60’s :~). Better late than never. They all sound like great people.

Gardnr
10-4-18, 10:33pm
My youngest sister and I took Mom home from the hospital when she got her terminal CA diagnosis. We each worked part time alternately and took care of Mom at home alternately. Mom lived just 2hours away. She died in 7 weeks. We wouldn't have had it any other way.

VERY different from years of care-I totally understand that. Nonetheless, putting life on hold to care for a parent.

Teacher Terry
10-4-18, 11:14pm
G, that’s awesome. We all hope to go fast but don’t always get our wish.

Gardenarian
10-4-18, 11:25pm
Your cousins humble me. I would be miserable in that situation. Do you think they're happy?

I've told DD that she has no obligation to take care of me if I am unable to care for myself. I hope that we're always loving and close, but I have seen lives ruined by the burden of caretaking. A couple months is one thing, but years? I'd rather pay a stranger.

Teacher Terry
10-5-18, 12:02am
With my dad it was mutual because we lived next door and I wasn’t working. We enjoyed the daily interaction. When my youngest was 5 I went to college full time and we helped one another plus we got to see my parents every day. Totally different than being a full time caregiver.??

Tybee
10-5-18, 5:28am
I am sorry for your loss, Catherine. It is so hard when the old ones start going and we are the old ones. I'm at my parents' house these last two weeks and I have been sorting through photos and letters this am, cannot sleep, and trying to pass some letters and photos on to the interested parties.

Bless your cousin for caring for her mother. How I wish I could pull that off. Going through all this stuff has made me realize that I probably have never had the right personality to do that, but I so admire people who can and wish I were less conflicted about it.

And absolutely, it is very cool to see Frugality in action and how it enables people to care for each other and lead better lives. Very inspirational, and helps me to remember why I try to practice frugality. I think of it as sustainable living, that' s my motto going forward.

Gardnr
10-5-18, 6:15am
G, that’s awesome. We all hope to go fast but don’t always get our wish.

A blessing indeed. 13y prior, Dad died of his CA in 4 months. In his words "I'm going to drown aren't i". Yes Dad, it's going to feel like that. Lung cancer sucks especially when it goes to the brain and bone before the last breath. So grateful for a short time-frame of his suffering.

catherine
10-5-18, 7:54am
Catherine, I am not criticizing at all. I had 2 awesome parents but wouldn’t have wanted to do it full time and we got along wonderfully. If they never had kids it would be easier. I am having my fun carefree days in my 60’s :~). Better late than never. They all sound like great people.

I hear ya.. It is definitely a difficult task. I think I regret not stepping up to that challenge with my mother--although I really couldn't. I had 4 young children, a husband with some health issues, and I had to "bring home the bacon." Plus, my brother lived near my mother in the town they both grew up in and he had no children so he was a better candidate to watch mom (who lived in assisted living in her later years).

My parents have been gone for decades, and my kids are grown, so yes, I admit I'm living a fairly carefree life myself. But I'd trade in some of that for more time with my mother.

JaneV2.0
10-5-18, 9:46am
My SO and I did tag team caretaking for a couple of months when my mother was dying. This involved me driving from the Seattle to the Portland area and back every few days. My siblings were much closer, but MIA. I think my beloved and I developed new respect for each other during that time. I'm glad I did it, but I can't imagine being a caretaker for months or years.