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Lainey
12-3-18, 10:04am
I've been wondering about the people on those extreme coupon tv shows. I saw several episodes where their haul was donated to their church or a charity. It's obvious these people love the thrill of the hunt and don't mind spending the time it takes to organize and get the deals.
It got me thinking that that there are so many non-profits that could benefit from that skill - it would be great if there's a way to get those people matched with a charity so their limited budgets could be stretched.
For example, in my area there's currently a clothing drive for teens in foster homes. It's a great cause, but it also seems a great inefficiency for individuals to each buy a few packages of full-price socks or underwear and drop them in the donation bin. I bet there's people out there who could figure out ways to use coupons/points/discounts/rebates, etc. and get these needed items at a great price and in bulk.

In the MMM forum there was a poster who did this for her favorite charity which was an animal shelter. She was great at getting a lot of pet food for almost nothing, but when she tried to teach her method to the staff/volunteers, no one wanted to do it.

So, people who love shopping as an extreme art could match up with their favorite cause and really stretch the organization's buying power. Everyone wins. Am I missing something?

Tybee
12-3-18, 10:22am
Just that you then have turned this into a who's the best shopper and who can most efficiently use the pooled resources. You have taken out the element of appealing to everyone to chip in something, which is I think why these drives work--that everyone wants to play a part. People like to feel they have personally made a difference, even if the delivery of the charitable service is not as efficient.

So if someone said, here, go pick a mitten off the mitten tree and pick out a gift for a child, that is a personal connection and I would be more inclined to do it.
If someone said, give us half of what you would have spent and give it to the pool so we can go buy efficient gifts for children, I would be less inclined to do it.

Not sure why it did not work with the dog charity. . .

razz
12-3-18, 10:58am
Often, in my area it is only optional processed items that have coupons, rarely life's necessities.

ToomuchStuff
12-3-18, 11:33am
What your missing is the most expensive element and the one YMOYL is about, TIME.
How much time do those shoppers spend between coupons/websites/promotions, etc. Seems like a full time job, where these orgainizations, get a lot of volunteers, with limited time.

jp1
12-3-18, 11:42am
There are definitely more efficient ways of getting resources to the poor than having everyone drop off a can of food for a food drive. I've volunteered a number of times at one of the main food banks here and they are very upfront that they prefer cash donations because they can generally get food for about 1/2 retail price because they are buying in bulk and flexible about what they buy. They also try to focus on providing a fair amount of healthy food which, as was mentioned above, is not generally part of the hyper coupon environment. That said, it's true that having a cash for food drive is probably not going to get donations from as many people as a canned food drive.

iris lilies
12-3-18, 12:08pm
There are definitely more efficient ways of getting resources to the poor than having everyone drop off a can of food for a food drive. I've volunteered a number of times at one of the main food banks here and they are very upfront that they prefer cash donations because they can generally get food for about 1/2 retail price because they are buying in bulk and flexible about what they buy. They also try to focus on providing a fair amount of healthy food which, as was mentioned above, is not generally part of the hyper coupon environment. That said, it's true that having a cash for food drive is probably not going to get donations from as many people as a canned food drive.

Many humans are focused on a physical object, handing it over, or else they do not feel as though they have contributed.Cash is too abstract. They like giving cans of corn to food banks. They like giving useed winter coats to homeless. They like knitting baby blankets for foster babies or some such thing. This is important to the human psyche.

Our rescue group makes a cash appeal this time of year. We get some gifts of dog toys and dog bones because people just like to shop, they like to consume, it is that connection of buying and gifting that is magical for them.

I see how much is donated because for 30 years I’ve lived in an inner-city urban environment and I walk the alleys, I check dumpsters. I see mounds of used clothing including winter coats dumped into dumpsters behind the main men’s homeless shelter downtown. I see the scores of canned goods from a Food bank in dumpsters behind one of my tiny houses and a few fresh things like orange juice and milk marked with a name of the food bank so I knew where it came from. Last year I saw at least a dozen large comforters in the dumpster outside of a church homeless shelter, obviously donated. On our beds are two comforters that I gleaned over the years from downtown streets, abandoned by homeless persons. I myself removed stacks of freshly laundered bath towels from the animal shelter’s dumpster at the end of my block and took them home. I use a ton of towels with our dogs.


Our world is awash in crap.

iris lilies
12-3-18, 12:16pm
I will also add at this time of year when everyone has their hand out I have to remind myself of my charitable goals. I give to animal welfare and historic structures, nothing else. I don’t deviate, and it pisses me off that everyone and their brother has their hand in my pocket in their holiday spirit.

Yesterday my plant society had its annual Christmas party. Years ago someone decided it was a good idea to collect food for a food pantry. I have always ignored this because it’s just not my jam. But it occurred to me that I could buy dog and cat food and donate it. I checked with the recipiant shelter and yes, they do handle pet food, so I was able to participate in our group feel good effort and still remain true to my charitable goals.

ApatheticNoMore
12-3-18, 12:37pm
There is a way to donate on the electricity bill to help people with their electricity bill, that appeals to me in a way most charity doesn't (and quite honestly I would have qualified at one point though didn't collect, wasn't that hard up), because people who need help paying basic bills, I can totally understand that. It's not a thing, donating the um electrons? Haha. But basic bills and how they will get paid, yea easy to grasp.

Tybee
12-3-18, 12:39pm
That's a great point, to make sure that your giving is in line with your values. I contribute to my old college for that reason and to where I teach, earmarking the money to be used for books for students.

jp1
12-3-18, 1:02pm
I can certainly underatand the desire to donate a physical ‘something’ whether it’s a can of spam, a coat, whatever. It’s much the same as with personal gifts. A guftcard for amazon would be the nest gift anyone might gve me. It’ll get used on exactly what i want. But to the guver it seems terribly impersonal. After all, imagine my thank you email a couple months later. ‘Thanks for the amazon gift card. I just used it to buy 1,100 glasses screws and a dongle to convert hdmi to VGA. Merry Christmas!’

Tybee
12-3-18, 1:07pm
I have one son that I always give Amazon gift cards to. He said he's happiest with that, loves them--he has used them to buy new sneakers, for example. He tends to hang on to them for a long time and them buys something he needs. He's very frugal and minimalist however, so the gift fits him well.

Teacher Terry
12-3-18, 1:33pm
I donate to animal shelters and homeless shelters. I give money but I also give scarves that I make to the homeless. I see people wearing them when I volunteer. So I know that they are used. People get to pick the scarf they want so not passed out. I also donate food to food drives. I always give to the Salvation Army as they do good work with tiny salaries. I had no clue there were extreme couponing shows. It takes a ton of time to coupon like that.

sweetana3
12-3-18, 1:38pm
Sometimes I understand the need to throw out things. Food that has not been properly stored or given, bedding/fabric items due to bed bugs, etc. My mom's apartment community finally had to close down their little thrift shop due to the fear of bed bugs.

I dont understand the towels from an animal shelter being thrown out unless they were used by their Parvo pups. It is so contagious that they may just be cautious. But if they could be use, there are lists of shelters that would welcome bedding and that have the facilities to wash it. Our shelters use the bedding until is really is rags. Our shelter once got a box truck of linens from some kind of hospital or nursing home. Very welcome and came washed.

Teacher Terry
12-3-18, 2:19pm
Our shelters have a bunch of washers and dryers and keep towels and blankets for the animals until they are rags.

iris lilies
12-3-18, 2:31pm
...I dont understand the towels from an animal shelter being thrown out unless they were used by their Parvo pups. It is so contagious that they may just be cautious. But if they could be use, there are lists of shelters that would welcome bedding and that have the facilities to wash it. Our shelters use the bedding until is really is rags. Our shelter once got a box truck of linens from some kind of hospital or nursing home. Very welcome and came washed.

I talked to the shelter manager about their towels, not because they were thrown out, because they were in the wrong dumpster. These towels were in the recycle dumpster and they do not belong there. He didn’t admit to putting them in. He was vague about it, and I assured him I don’t care if he’s throwing them out I just want things to be sorted correctly in our dumpsters. We had a brief talk about donations the shelter gets and how he hast to keep them cleaned out, not just towels. For more than a decade, several Vari-Kennels ( dog crates) were piled outside of the shelter, but since they were in a hidden corner they were not unsightly so I didn’t complain about it. And then one day when I needed one for a rescue dog I took it and have since passed it on to another rescue dog.

This is not a conventional shelter it is a small commercial building that was the very first building owned by Stray Rescue of St. Louis and they had only about six dogs there in recent years. They have since grown very large and have a large facility downtown. They were kinda good/Kinda not good neighbors in that we had pitbull patrol on my block for decades and that was a pretty cool thing as the volunteers walk these dogs. They didnt keep up their building, tho, and that sucked.

Anyway, Stray Rescue sold this building recently, and all dogs are gone.

Lainey
12-3-18, 5:21pm
An example: I had a 20% discount on regular sale items at a local chain store. I also happened to have collected enough points at this same store for a $5 credit. I saw a pair of men's flannel pajama pants for $10, which, by using my discount and credit, I bought for only $3. I then donated them to the foster teen clothing drive. I wouldn't have paid the $10 full price, but at $3 they were practically free.
It was just something I stumbled on, but for those super shoppers who love bargain hunting as a serious hobby, it seems like it would be a great match.

I do get the point about donating a physical thing vs. cash and how it can make us feel a more direct connection.