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This is always an interesting annual report from United Van Lines: it gives in-migration and out-migration patterns in each state.
https://www.unitedvanlines.com/contact-united/news/movers-study-2018?utm_source=dynamic&utm_medium=press&utm_campaign=National-Movers-Study&utm_content=2018-interactive-map
It confirmed for me that I'm not a very unique person--at least where moving is concerned. The state with the greatest percentage of people MOVING OUT is New Jersey; the state with the greatest percentage of people MOVING IN is Vermont.
Interesting, thanks for posting.
I must say that Vermont is a bit of a surprise. I wonder what accounts for it?
Interesting, thanks for posting.
I must say that Vermont is a bit of a surprise. I wonder what accounts for it?
This what a related article (https://www.unitedvanlines.com/top-states-to-move-to) said:
Specifically, the majority of moves to Vermont were for a company transfer or new job opportunity (34%). Vermont companies hold pride in their commitment to employees and community. They’re well-known for their progressive maternity and paternity leave policies and donations to charitable causes. Environmental sustainability is also very important to businesses in Vermont. So, if any of these benefits are of interest to you, Vermont may be the place to move.
Following very close behind, retirement was the next most popular reason to move at 31%. Vermont’s cost of living is very low, which in part is due to the overall low population of the state (Alaska actually has more people!). This factor is very important to retirees who have a limited income and are looking for a state that will help stretch their money further.
It’s no wonder the Green Mountain State is so inviting to movers. Between its beautiful displays of the four seasons and many lakeside communities, new Vermonters find themselves immersed in a culture that accommodates all interests, especially those involving outdoor activities.
I moved/am moving there for family and retirement, and because I love the culture and the scenery (unobstructed by billboards which are illegal in VT). For some reason, when I cross the state line from VT to NY, I just think VT cities and towns are so much cuter and the people cooler. Probably just perception, but as they say in marketing, "perception is reality."
I love maps - interesting info
Saw on the news you can get $10,000 if you move to Vermont. My son said if they up it to $100,000.00 he will go. But he actually would not qualify for the program. The state is facing issues from an aging population.
I heard that is a program for people who work from home, but maybe it is for more than that? My husband was interested in Vermont for that reason.
Teacher Terry
1-3-19, 10:42pm
We are one of the top 5 for people moving in. I didn’t realize Vermont was cheap to live.
I heard that is a program for people who work from home, but maybe it is for more than that? My husband was interested in Vermont for that reason.
From what I've read, yes, you have to work from home for an out of state employer, and you get $5,000 per year for two years. Not sure how they verify, but for someone that does lower income employment (like work from home phone support) and is looking to get a little boost in income, it sounds like a cool scheme.
We are one of the top 5 for people moving in. I didn’t realize Vermont was cheap to live.
In my experience, it's cheap for the NE. Housing is quite affordable--at least compared to NJ, but it goes up in the cities and ski centers. According to Zillow, the median home price in NJ is $323 compared to $202 in VT (and $222 for US as a whole). My auto insurance will be cut in half.
Perception of cheap is so different!
Coming from rural Ohio - 100,000 bought you a big older house in the country with an acre or two in a good school district. In Phienix we spent 150,000 on a tiny house in an older neighborhood with homeless shelters nearby. We refused to spend more.
Count your blessings on house prices. It is nothing to spend $300,000 to $500,000 for a basic house now. Fixer-uppers go for $200,000. I expect the prices will go down but there is so little rental accommodation and with low interest, people are buying to have a roof over their heads. Crazy!
Teacher Terry
1-4-19, 11:30am
Our 1950’s ranch house is 1400 sq ft and worth 320. It’s in a really desirable neighborhood. In my hometown in Wisconsin it would be 150.
I see twice as many people are moving to Oregon than are leaving. That doesn't bode well for their housing situation.
IL has been bleeding people for years. High taxes are given has a primarily reason, especially property taxes.
Teacher Terry
1-4-19, 2:04pm
Jane, that’s why our housing situation is so bad. Plus the average family here earns 45k for family of 4 so they can’t afford homes.
I love Vermont--and northern New England generally--at least the scenery. I'd consider moving there, but them's some long, cold winters.
Cold winters followed by black fly springs.
Cold winters followed by black fly springs.
One man's meat is another man's poison.
You see cold winters and black fly springs, I see this:
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Those photos were in our local paper, but I like this picture of winter, taken from my house. Some will say bleak--I say beautiful.
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Teacher Terry
1-5-19, 12:45pm
Vermont is beautiful. But no way I am ever giving up my mild 4 seasons.
I checked the map going back to 2013 as there wasn't data for 2012, and I noticed that IL had around 60% to 65% outbound and 30%ish inbound all those years. I'm not surprised. We have been mulling over leaving IL for a while now even though all of our family members live here.
iris lilies
1-5-19, 2:50pm
I checked the map going back to 2013 as there wasn't data for 2012, and I noticed that IL had around 60% to 65% outbound and 30%ish inbound all those years. I'm not surprised. We have been mulling over leaving IL for a while now even though all of our family members live here.
We live in St. Louis. I spent 4 years looking around for property for our retirement and there sre several comunities in IL we like a lot. But Dh stated flatly that he would not move to IL. I think he might have made an exception for Highland, a cute little prosperus farming town with lots of Swiss influences. But basically all of the interesting places in IL were off limits.
Back whenI was growing up in Iowa it was considered a step up in the world to move to IL but no longer.
I'm in NJ. It's very crowded in many areas and I don't know which areas people are moving out of. I'm in a rural area in the NW part, a few minutes from PA. Many people I work with commute from PA because they can't afford to live in NJ.
When driving around my own county and two others, I see a lot of empty homes, small and oversized. I guess they can't afford them and the bank takes over. But are they staying in NJ or moving out of state?
I drove through Jersey City last week. It was not appealing though the gas was cheap.
I drove through Jersey City last week. It was not appealing though the gas was cheap.
Jersey City is the new Hoboken, which is the new Williamsburg. In other words, old and icky a decade ago--now gentrified and hip. Great place to live if you work in Manhattan. My son lived in that general area (Union City) and it had its advantages (especially his skyline view) but I couldn't stand the traffic and the parking.
Like any city there are nice parts and less nice parts to Jersey City. When we lived there we didn't live in the trendy brownstone neighborhoods downtown because they were expensive. There wasn't anything exciting about our neighborhood and I wouldn't say that it was especially attractive, but it was safe, cheap ($1,700 for a brand new 3 bed/2bath apartment in a two family house 10 years ago) and we actually knew and interacted with several of our neighbors on a regular basis. Traffic and parking weren't an issue for us because we didn't have a car. There was a private bus company that ran buses literally every minute or two all day long that stopped at our corner.
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