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I happened to spot this article (https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/424791-oceans-heating-up-faster-than-previously-thought-scientists-say) in The Hill while web-surfing at work today. It got me thinking about two things. First, it was buried among a dozen other stories at the bottom of the page--apparently this kind of news doesn't merit going above the fold any more. Second, it reinforced the sense I've had for some time that whenever I see a news story about global warming, it seems that the problem isn't as bad as we think--it's considerably worse.
My question is: Has anyone seen anything in the news lately to prove that belief wrong? I'm talking about real science from reputable, preferably peer-reviewed sources (the article above was taken from Science magazine).
I'm prepared not to receive any responses here--I was just wondering if someone has seen something I haven't.
Teacher Terry
1-10-19, 5:26pm
Whatever I read states that we have a short window to turn climate change around while it’s still possible.
It seems pretty bleak. And climate change is only one problem. My permaculture teacher has said, and I agree, that talking climate change is just one piece of the issue--and unfortunately it's one that doesn't carry a relatable message to most. What relevance does 350ppm of carbon dioxide have to an everyday person? It's a number. And does the average person know the implications of the oceans getting 2 degrees warmer?
So even setting aside the whole climate change crisis, there are other problems beyond greenhouse gasses--there's also the problem that our agricultural system is depleting the earth of rich topsoil, stripping biodiversity, and poisoning countless species with chemicals.
Finally, there is a flat-out lack of reverence for the world. If people stop looking at the world with wonder, it becomes a commodity, and it's toast.
I heard one uplifting thing today: it's a video of Paul Hawken talking about the thesis of his book, Blessed Unrest (it's an older book, but the video is a good reminder). He talks about the global, quiet uprising of a whole new movement that cares. At least that's good news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y98hDWUBv_k.
Palu Hawken has a good case that is hard to measure or discredit.
dado potato
1-10-19, 9:15pm
I would add that there has been a great improvement in the water quality of the River Charles and Boston Harbor. The combined annual sewage discharges to the Charles River from the municipalities of Boston, Cambridge, Newton, Brookline, Watertown, and Waltham dropped 99.5% from 1988 to 2013.
The bacterial standards for boating are met 95% of the time; for swimming in dry weather conditions 95%; for swimming in wet weather conditions 64%.
"...Love That Dirty Water" song lyrics no longer apply!
At least in my circle there has been an increasing acceptance that climate change is real and probably related to human activity, even among some former deniers (and even republicans). Not so much from any science studies, but just from observations of weather extremes, droughts, and hotter seasons. The broadcast news I see has also been featuring climate change reports. Don't know if much will become of it, but it seems like a general shift in attitudes.
I've also noticed just recently some of the major food chains are offering vegan and vegetarian menu options. Panera and Taco Bell being the most recent. I understand that some people prefer meat choices for health reasons, but a plant based diet is probably better for the planet. Also, maybe another shift in awareness. It's new and may not catch on but at least someone is trying.
I would add that there has been a great improvement in the water quality of the River Charles and Boston Harbor. The combined annual sewage discharges to the Charles River from the municipalities of Boston, Cambridge, Newton, Brookline, Watertown, and Waltham dropped 99.5% from 1988 to 2013.
The bacterial standards for boating are met 95% of the time; for swimming in dry weather conditions 95%; for swimming in wet weather conditions 64%.
"...Love That Dirty Water" song lyrics no longer apply!
This kind of thing is indeed very good news. The same thing has happened in my area--bodies of water that were badly polluted decades ago are now relatively clean. You can now (mostly) eat fish out of local waters, and there are all kinds of shore birds around that you never saw when I was a kid.
That's not really the kind of thing I'm talking about, though. I guess I was hoping someone might know of any scientific evidence that things are anything other than totally grim.
It's also worth pointing out that the kinds of improvements you're describing were almost entirely the result of legislation, not individual efforts. (except insofar as legislation results from individual efforts). Corporations and municipalities would never have taken the actions needed to clean up their waterways unless compelled by law. This just reinforces my belief that when it comes to global warming, only legislation will save us.
A link from Factfulness by Hans Rosling on the slow transition away from fossil fuels - https://www.gapminder.org/topics/energy-sources/ and https://www.gapminder.org/topics/co2-per-capita/
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catherine
1-11-19, 12:59pm
It's also worth pointing out that the kinds of improvements you're describing were almost entirely the result of legislation, not individual efforts.
Absolutely. That's why Trump's rollbacks on environmental regulation are so devastating.
I think the move GM made toward electric and self-driving cars is encouraging. There is a US based company called Rivian that claims to be offering production electric pickup trucks and SUV's in 2020 and VW is working on various electric concept cars. I'm actually surprised that these are not more popular in Europe where gas is so expensive. I understand that there are environmental costs to electric vehicles, also, but it seems like a promising step. A few of the barriers are the lack of supporting infrastructure for charging, the relatively short operating range between charges and purchasing cost, but those are showing improvements. I could almost see a day when individual ownership of a car will become less common. Our city has been working on a light rail system that will eventually reach to most of the surrounding burbs.
I've also seen an increase in bike lanes and paths even in some of the smaller cities in our state. Unfortunately these seems to mostly be used for recreation rather than commuting, but I do see handfuls of bicycle commuters around and the inner city has a rent-a-bike program for short trips downtown.
There are a lot of questions around certain recycling programs and I'm not sure where things will end up eventually, but there was a day that doesn't seem that long ago when curbside recycling was unheard of and single use plastic shopping bags were the bags of choice.
We do need better government leadership and legislation, but it seems like people are becoming more aware that climate change and other environmental issues are real and are doing a lot of things both as individuals and businesses. It just seems like a very slow process and it could be a long wait for government to catch up .
Other countries are predictably ahead of us, but states like California are making progress.
There’s lots of good little things in the works - but I fear we have passed the point of no return with climate change. Everything I read from science journals is sounding pretty hopeless.
It affects me a lot. Everyday I think about our collective future over the next 100 years. Now that I’m 57, a century is a short time. I’m actually glad that 2 of my 3 kids have not had children. I don’t want my grandkids to suffer.
The Green New Deal is the most promising thing I've seen coming from the government. Various forms and angles on it have been in the news lately. It almost seems too good to be true, but one article claimed 65% support from even the Republicans (there must be a catch?).
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/12/ocasio-cortez-green-new-deal-winning-climate-strategy/576514/
When populations are not struggling to survive, more thoughtful decisions can be made. There is a lot of good news around the world that we are not reading about.
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190111-seven-reasons-why-the-world-is-improving
catherine
1-13-19, 10:12am
When populations are not struggling to survive, more thoughtful decisions can be made. There is a lot of good news around the world that we are not reading about.
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190111-seven-reasons-why-the-world-is-improving
Thanks, Rogar and razz for the hopeful signs!
On the one hand, with the environmental destruction agency partially shutdown the damage the republicans can do is limited. On the other hand I was also reading that various scientific studies regarding potential effects of climate change that include ongoing monitoring are not being completed because the government workers doing the monitoring and recording have been furloughed. So I'd say that the short-term outlook is decidedly mixed. Couple that with the fact that antarctic ice is supposedly melting way faster than previously thought and my optimism is pretty limited.
Williamsmith
1-16-19, 2:11pm
He government furlough barely three weeks old ...can’t possibly have an effect on failed mitigation of climate change.
How long do the scientific journals say the Antarctic ice will take to completely melt? And is there an interactive map to show the sea level when that occurs? Just would like to know whether I should be worried or not at my present location.
WS, after extensive research, er, ah rather, after looking up on Wikipedia, it is the Arctic ice that is melting the fastest and they are saying it may be ice free in the summer in the later part of the century under one of their emissions models. It would be unprecedented in recent geological history and the first time it has happened in the last 700,000 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_the_Arctic
Since we are focusing on positive news though, it's my perception that coastal flooding in America will be less of a concern for us and more a concern for the next generation, so I think we will be OK if we can get past the tornadoes, hurricanes, droughts, flooding, and fires.
Williamsmith
1-17-19, 8:35pm
WS, after extensive research, er, ah rather, after looking up on Wikipedia, it is the Arctic ice that is melting the fastest and they are saying it may be ice free in the summer in the later part of the century under one of their emissions models. It would be unprecedented in recent geological history and the first time it has happened in the last 700,000 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_the_Arctic
Since we are focusing on positive news though, it's my perception that coastal flooding in America will be less of a concern for us and more a concern for the next generation, so I think we will be OK if we can get past the tornadoes, hurricanes, droughts, flooding, and fires.
What is the explanation for why the Antarctic ice is growing? And are there not historic accounts of tornadoes, hurricanes, droughts, flooding and fires going back to the earliest knuckle dragging times of Homo Erectus?
WS, I've been in enough climate change debates to conclude that I'm not going to convince any climate change deniers of anything. The answers to your questions are out there and easy to look up and you can choose who to believe or not. For example, NASA says that melting glaciers from global warming are depositing freshwater into the southern oceans and since freshwater freezes at a higher temperature than salt water, the diluted saltwater around Antarctica has been freezing more readily and growing by area. However the saltwater ice beneath the ice cap has been melting at a feaster rate with a net ice loss.
And you can probably find reliable sources that say the wind, flooding and other extreme weather is more frequent and severe that historical records and I think there is general agreement among climatologist that this is due at least in part to human caused climate change. And they will get worse and damage economies and human health.
Many things seem to be in shambles, or maybe at this point in time with communication being what it is, we hear and see a lot more than ever before. Yes it would be good to see positive change faster, but I guess to take everyone along means, adjusting to a slower pace. One good thing is the increasing awareness about the environment in younger children. Catching them young can work brilliantly well!
Forbes weighs in in favor of the Green New Deal, or at least the economics behind it:
https://tinyurl.com/y9gwwfz7
catherine
1-18-19, 11:06am
Forbes weighs in in favor of the Green New Deal, or at least the economics behind it:
https://tinyurl.com/y9gwwfz7
Great article. Thanks for posting.
BTW, I've already joined the Sunrise Movement. (https://www.sunrisemovement.org/gnd/)
On the issue of climate change, I don't think we will be hearing any good news for at least the next few centuries, and that is only if changes are made NOW to stop further pollution before it's really too late. Too many natural systems are past their tipping points, and it will take, at a minimum, hundreds of years before it starts to swing back in the right direction. Every credible study coming out on climate change just shows that it is happening more rapidly than predicted, and having unforeseen (as well as foreseen) consequences in the here and now.
But two "good news" stories from the past year that come to mind, are that the hole in the ozone layer is nearly healed. (Which for anyone not up on the science, is completely unrelated to climate change, but was once a serious threat in it's own right.) And this story: https://www.care2.com/causes/sea-turtles-return-to-mumbai-for-the-first-time-in-20-years.html about a grassroots effort by locals to clean up what was once known as "the world's dirtiest beach" being so successful that sea turtles returned to nest there. It really shows what ordinary people can accomplish on the local level if they have the will to do so.
I would also count the EU banning neonicotinoids as good news of a sort, even though it remains to be seen whether it was done in time.
catherine
1-19-19, 10:54am
More bad news--from the WSJ: "Farms, More Productive Than Ever, Are Poisoning Drinking Water in Rural America."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/farms-more-productive-than-ever-are-poisoning-drinking-water-in-rural-america-11547826031?mod=flipboard&fbclid=IwAR2jWVtkO8LGWPTxasdD9LYO_GMDxkJEwXD6uCxoW 8_qX5oKOIPJYssAgXg
iris lilies
1-19-19, 11:37am
More bad news--from the WSJ: "Farms, More Productive Than Ever, Are Poisoning Drinking Water in Rural America."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/farms-more-productive-than-ever-are-poisoning-drinking-water-in-rural-america-11547826031?mod=flipboard&fbclid=IwAR2jWVtkO8LGWPTxasdD9LYO_GMDxkJEwXD6uCxoW 8_qX5oKOIPJYssAgXg
this is news? Agri chemicals in the water table has been old news for a while.
Trying to stay on the positive vane,
"Move over, almond and soy milk: An oat milk boom, as I argued in a piece last year, could help the Midwest solve some of its most dire agricultural issues. And now there’s new research out this month to help support the case for covering the region with oats."
https://www.motherjones.com/food/2019/01/oat-milk-alfalfa-cover-crop-corn-soybeans-algae-blooms-iowa-nitrogen/
The majority of mono culture in the corn belt Midwest goes to biofuels, high fructose corn syrup, and animal feed. It's extremely inefficient at feeding people. That is a rather sad state in my opinion and numerous improvement angles including the way people eat.
Relevant for this thread--a great quote by Paul Hawken popped up on my FB feed just now.
"When asked if I am pessimistic or optimistic about the future, my answer is always the same: If you look at the science about what is happening on earth and aren't pessimistic, you don't understand data. But if you meet the people who are working to restore this earth and the lives of the poor, and you aren't optimistic, you haven't got a pulse. What I see everywhere in the world are ordinary people willing to confront despair, power, and incalculable odds in order to restore some semblance of grace, justice, and beauty to this world."
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Williamsmith
1-29-19, 4:13pm
Trying to stay on the positive vane,
"Move over, almond and soy milk: An oat milk boom, as I argued in a piece last year, could help the Midwest solve some of its most dire agricultural issues. And now there’s new research out this month to help support the case for covering the region with oats."
https://www.motherjones.com/food/2019/01/oat-milk-alfalfa-cover-crop-corn-soybeans-algae-blooms-iowa-nitrogen/
The majority of mono culture in the corn belt Midwest goes to biofuels, high fructose corn syrup, and animal feed. It's extremely inefficient at feeding people. That is a rather sad state in my opinion and numerous improvement angles including the way people eat.
I would agree that the use of large agribusiness crops is more geared towards profit than what’s best for the health of the country but that goes to the very foundation of our country. We do things differently here in the US ...some for the better and some not. I do agree that local food systems would serve out citizenry better. We are a fat people.
I would agree that the use of large agribusiness crops is more geared towards profit than what’s best for the health of the country but that goes to the very foundation of our country. We do things differently here in the US ...some for the better and some not. I do agree that local food systems would serve out citizenry better. We are a fat people.
Commodity prices are beyond my scope of understanding, but suffice it to say that we subsidize corn production and a lot of those who benefit are large scale industrial farms. Profit motivated free markets are at the foundation of our country, but I'm not so sure how that fits when the government subsidizes certain things and creates a false market.
Williamsmith
1-30-19, 9:32am
Commodity prices are beyond my scope of understanding, but suffice it to say that we subsidize corn production and a lot of those who benefit are large scale industrial farms. Profit motivated free markets are at the foundation of our country, but I'm not so sure how that fits when the government subsidizes certain things and creates a false market.
Agreed, but I think both capitalists and socialists find reasons to justify false markets propped up by governments. Historically, subsidy markets get created due to a real or perceived need and then when that need vaporizes or is proven unjustified....government doesn’t know how to remove that subsidy without losing votes.
Williamsmith
2-11-19, 8:24am
Add agribusiness ...pesticide and herbicide use to the list of activities with catastrophic consequences for the human race within a century. We probably won’t be around by the time climate change threatens to wipe us out....according to this scientific journal the die out of insects is having immediate effects on the odds of our survival. Intensive agriculture, urbanization, habitat loss, pathogens and introduced species and then less important climate change.....will kill off all the insects within a hundred years and all the animals that rely on insect food.
So much for good news.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006320718313636
It could be a race between innovation and disaster. Things like test tube grown meat are really not that far off. There is a new book out that I know I won't read called, Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population Decline. Best I can tell from the summaries, the title says most of it. It could be that even with our brilliant scientists racing to solve problems, we won't escape the population dynamics of a biological population and things will self correct.
If there is any good news from your disasters WS, it is that I our generation of conspicuous consumers and fossil fuel guzzlers will most probably be gone before it all comes down. If I were a young person coming into such calamities, I'd get the feeling that our leaders have sold us out for greed and power. Matter of fact, I can get that feeling anyway.
It could be a race between innovation and disaster. Things like test tube grown meat are really not that far off. There is a new book out that I know I won't read called, Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population Decline. Best I can tell from the summaries, the title says most of it. It could be that even with our brilliant scientists racing to solve problems, we won't escape the population dynamics of a biological system and things will self correct.
If there is any good news from your disasters WS, it is that our generation of conspicuous consumption and fossil fuel guzzling will most probably be gone before it all comes down. If I were a young person coming into such calamities, I'd get the feeling that our leaders have sold us out over greed. Matter of fact, I get that feeling anyway.
Here's some good news on a very small part of our environment; the Weavers' way food coop in Philadelphia I belong to held a recycling event and collected more than 300 pounds of batteries and 14 and half tons of electronic devices and processed them in cooperation with a company that breaks down and reuses the materials in the devices. Hundreds of people brought the stuff to a school in the Chestnut Hill section of the city. It was inspiring to see the effort people were willing to go to find an ethical way to dispose of their stuff!
Here's some good news on a very small part of our environment; the Weavers' way food coop in Philadelphia I belong to held a recycling event and collected more than 300 pounds of batteries and 14 and half tons of electronic devices and processed them in cooperation with a company that breaks down and reuses the materials in the devices. Hundreds of people brought the stuff to a school in the Chestnut Hill section of the city. It was inspiring to see the effort people were willing to go to find an ethical way to dispose of their stuff!
Do you know of any similar effort just up the road from you in Central Jersey? I am decluttering my home and my husband is a retired video producer and has TONS of obsolete equipment and we've been wondering what to do with it all.
Catherine,
have you looked at the site earth911.com? Might be a place to start.
Washington state became the fourth (fifth?) to pass a renewable energy bill...
"Today, we shift our focus to Washington State, where House Bill 1211 has passed its namesake chamber by a margin of 56-42. HB 1211 is the companion bill of Senate Bill 5116, will require the state to adopt 100% carbon-free power by 2045, as well as phasing out coal by 2025 and requiring all electricity sales to be carbon-neutral by 2030. The bill has now passed in both chambers, meaning that it is destined to end up on the desk of Governor Jay Inslee (D) after it goes back to the Senate for reconciliation, as some minor amendments were made in the House.
And since Inslee proposed this plan to begin with, there is no doubt that he will sign the bill'"
(PV Magazine.com)
It looks like California, Massachusetts, New York, and Oregon have passed similar measures.
This test on reducing climate change and how to become effective is interesting to do. I did very badly, BTW.;)
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/04/specials/climate-change-solutions-quiz/index.html
This was very interesting. I only got 33% and only Empowering women did I get them all in a row. It made me think. We're looking at a new car....perhaps a hybrid?
catherine
4-20-19, 11:52am
Wow. I got 13.9%. But in my defense, it's a bit of a flawed methodology because, for instance, I ranked three of the first question items in the right order but #4 was actually #1, so I feel I got 3 right, not 0 right.
Yes, nswef, it did make me glad I have a hybrid (2007 Prius). And, while I plan on driving it to the ground, when it needs replacing, I'll see what the best technology is at that point and invest in it. Hybrids aren't perfect as far as green goes, but they're a step in the right direction.
ApatheticNoMore
4-20-19, 12:17pm
"Today, we shift our focus to Washington State, where House Bill 1211 has passed its namesake chamber by a margin of 56-42. HB 1211 is the companion bill of Senate Bill 5116, will require the state to adopt 100% carbon-free power by 2045, as well as phasing out coal by 2025 and requiring all electricity sales to be carbon-neutral by 2030. The bill has now passed in both chambers, meaning that it is destined to end up on the desk of Governor Jay Inslee (D) after it goes back to the Senate for reconciliation, as some minor amendments were made in the House. And since Inslee proposed this plan to begin with, there is no doubt that he will sign the bill
if you like Jay Inslee and his focus on climate change and environment (he is running for President on climate change) give him a small donation to get him in the Dem debates. This has been an unpaid political announcement.
(and no he's not the only Dem candidate with proposals at all, just he's very focused on it)
Teacher Terry
4-20-19, 3:32pm
34.4%
Had to laugh at myself. I redid the test which I got 28.8% the first time and still only 46.9% the second time. I must be a slow learner or, as Cath notes, one can be correct on many of the # 2,3,4's but not the # 1. Still it is food for thought as there is a lot of effort in reducing the coolants, increased hybrid or electric vehicle use, greater awareness of the amount of food being thrown away, all signs of progress.
I went to the Whale Museum on the next island over last week, instead of taking my guests out whale watching, because:
- our local resident population of Orca whales is endangered, and under pressure from the huge number of whale watching boats
- fully 1/2 of the resident whales snuck down to Monterey this month for a quick snack, because food sources here and boat traffic were making feeding difficult - they've done this a few times in the past. Normally they live here year round.
We had a good time at the Museum, then went to a land-based Whale Watching Park for a picnic - generally a couple hours there will yield a nice sighting, as the Orcas like to feed on salmon right off that park. No whales.
On the ferry back to this island, right as we were leaving the harbor - an entire family pod of Orcas was hanging out, right at the harbor entrance, just playing. I've never ever even seen them in that channel. It was a good sign.
A friend later told me she saw the same family playing in the harbor in Vancouver a couple days later.
And the resident humpback is still here with her calf, and others seem to be coming to join.
And last year I was out in my 16' boat, and saw a fin whale, which was an amazing experience.
Maybe things are getting a bit better?
Good news about the whales, bae!
Re the quiz, I went to the Project Drawdown site and it was really interesting--it had the whole rankings and the rationale behind each solution. While I think much depends on policy and things beyond "shorter showers," it is a reminder of how much can be done, and is being done, at institutional and personal levels.
https://www.drawdown.org/solutions-summary-by-rank
Re the quiz, I went to the Project Drawdown site and it was really interesting--
https://www.drawdown.org/solutions-summary-by-rank
It was interesting to see how the input costs and cost benefit lined up against each other.
Another good example of what is possible if everyone makes the effort especially the politicians and citizenry.
https://www.csmonitor.com/Daily/2019/20190423?cmpid=ema:ddp:20190423
But for the city of San Fernando, north of Manila in the Philippines, addressing the problem goes beyond the latest innovation to hit the market...
Between 2012 and 2018, the city increased the percentage of trash diverted from landfills from 12% to 80%, a feat many local governments can only dream about. Instead of going to dumpsites or, worse, into waterways, most of the waste collected in the city now becomes compost or is sold for recycling.
A 2018 World Bank report revealed that nearly 2 billion metric tons (2.2 billion U.S. tons) of solid waste was generated worldwide in 2016 – a number that could increase to 3.4 billion metric tons (3.7 billion U.S. tons) by 2050, damaging mostly developing countries...
In 2012, the local government of San Fernando tapped the MEF to implement a zero waste strategy in the city of more than 300,000. It was a long and grueling effort. Across the city, solid waste unceremoniously dumped in the streets was a common sight, recalls Ms. Rodriguez, saying that at the time, many thought it was impossible to solve...
In addition to major policies, which include a total ban on plastic and polystyrene, the city has also initiated short-term programs, such as collective cleanups, to ensure the initiative remains at the forefront of people’s minds.
“No policy can be successful if people do not comply,” says Ms. Rodriguez. She notes that making sure residents separate waste at home was one of the major challenges they had to address at the beginning. They did so through information campaigns urging citizens to respect the law.
I just realized that Catherine asked me a question about recycling companies near her in New Jersey; I do know of a company called "611 Metals" (611 Metals@gmail.com) that does heavy duty recycling and buys metal! They are located in Willow Grove and Pipersville Bucks County PA. They may be able to pick up from your location if there is enough stuff. Worth a try! They may know of other companies even closer.
This guy is doing his part:
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1108979385472823296
Incredible! 50% of the fabric used to make a piece of clothing is thrown away. Multiply that by thousands of pieces of clothing and you have waste on a giant scale but also an opportunity to make big changes In the industry.
Okay, this made me feel the tiniest bit optimistic (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/planting-a-trillion-trees-could-be-the-most-effective-solution-to-climate-change/). Especially after reading this morning that Anchorage reached 90F for the first time ever.
Of course, a trillion trees is a whole lotta trees. And if you read the article all the way to the end, it appears there are some people who are skeptical about whether this would work.
But if you break it down (and my math is correct), it involves planting a mere 130 trees for every person now alive on the planet. Which, in the present political climate, seems a whole lot more feasible than passing a carbon tax.
I have a friend who is on a long paddleboarding trip right now. Across the Northwest Passage...
https://www.joebark.com/blog/2018/12/21/cuzyz2l8p3sy8cmtk80863u6te3lrj
https://www.gofundme.com/2019-northwest-passage-sup-expedition
People are fascinating in the challenges that they set for themselves from planting trees over a lifetime to paddelboarding. Makes life a rich experience.
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