Howard Schultz

[LDAHL]

A real possibility, or mere egotistical musings?

A spoiler threat to the Democrats, or a beneficial influence against spinning out of reality’s orbit into the utopian zone?

A test of whether the electorate cares about deficits?

[bae]

It sure exposes what the major parties are afraid of :-)

[iris lilies]

The electorate doesnt care about deficits. Sorry to burst your bubble, bub.

[jp1]

The electorate doesnt care about deficits. Sorry to burst your bubble, bub.

Nor the politicians as we learned a little over a year ago. At least as long as the money is going to super rich people and corporations.

[catherine]

I'd rather Bloomberg than Schultz if you're looking at the Businessman-Turned-Politician type.

[jp1]

We’ve already tried the businessman turned politician type as president. Hopefully we as a nation are smart enough to fall for that again.

[Williamsmith]

I'd rather Bloomberg than Schultz if you're looking at the Businessman-Turned-Politician type.

I would rather neither. But at least Bloomberg would tell you what he is really thinking even if it is crazy whereas Schultz would blow sunshine up your butt while he is spitting in your cappuccino.

[LDAHL]

I heard Bloomberg is declining to run because the Secret Service was going to assign him the code name “Big Gulp”.

[KayLR]

Still wondering what Jane and Bae think of Inslee throwing his hat in.

[JaneV2.0]

Sorry, I hadn't been following this thread. Howard Schultz is a complete non-starter in my book; right up there with Mitt "47%" Romney.

I think Inslee is a fine man, a dedicated bureaucrat, an adequate administrator, etc. I've always voted for him. I'd probably like to have a kombucha with him. If somehow he were nominated, I'd vote for him again. But I'd rather not.

I want the next generation to take the reins. (I might make an exception for Elizabeth Warren.) Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams, Beto O'Rourke, Maisie Hirono, Ted Lieu...are among my favorites. I'm tired of old white men who are comfortable in their thrall to Big Money donors, cutting taxes (again?) and refusing to make waves. Really, I'm ready for a revolution.

[Teacher Terry]

I feel the same Jane.

[jp1]

https://politics.theonion.com/howard-schultz-considering-independent-presidential-run-1832126653?fbclid=IwAR2_AaG4-Z-3mzdN4QXmy0YMv-JFumBD6Lve74AIGtW8JPekWF9a5EpAiJs

“The complete lack of support for my candidacy among narrow interest groups like liberals, conservatives, and moderates tells me that America is hungry for an independent voice,” said Schultz, after preliminary polling found little to no support for his presidential bid among Democrats, African-Americans, evangelicals, working-class whites, suburbanites, Republicans, millennials, Hispanics, men, or women.

[Rogar]

From what little I've seen Schultz is nothing more than a democrat that leans to the center. By running as an independent he gets out of the free-for-all democratic primaries, which does seem a little egotistical.

[jp1]

To me he seems more like a 70’s republican that leans a little left. Who knows, maybe the LDAHL’s of the world will love him. Personally, as a democrat, i’m not worried. If anything he’ll steal more votes from republicans that can’t believe that trump has become their party. Maga...

[jp1]

And AOC's response to this clown:

"Why don't people ever tell billionaires who want to run for President that they need to 'work their way up' or that 'maybe they should start with city council first'?"

If he were really serious about wanting to debate his ideas he'd throw his hat in the ring as a democrat and actually try to defend his 1995 policy positions. But of course he'd get pummeled so he's not gonna go that route.

[ApatheticNoMore]

work you way up as a one term senator in the party out of power (looking at Kamala) - yea I don't think she's really put in the time in anything serious, but she's done nothing if not tried to add shiny looking nothingburgers to the resume.

[jp1]

Correction. Work your way up as a senator after spending more than a decade as attorney general for the largest state in the union and district attorney for the second largest city in that state.

[Teacher Terry]

She has great credentials!

[JaneV2.0]

Anyone who has even the most tenuous grasp of how our government works under the Constitution is light years ahead of what we have now.

[LDAHL]

I see Paul Krugman denounced Shultz yesterday as a “fanatical centrist”. It made me think of how hard it must be for the Onion to keep up. How do you keep a step ahead of all the earnest silliness being purveyed?

[jp1]

I agree. Having republican fiscal policies but dropping the creepy moralizing and judginess of republicans doesn't make one a centrist.

[LDAHL]

I agree. Having republican fiscal policies but dropping the creepy moralizing and judginess of republicans doesn't make one a centrist.

That’s right. An entirely different standard of creepy moralizing and judgment is required before the approval of the right-thinking left is earned.

[gimmethesimplelife]

We’ve already tried the businessman turned politician type as president. Hopefully we as a nation are smart enough to fall for that again.I share this hope but I just don't know......I have this sinking feeling we are in for another four years as of 2020 of the Thug of Orange and Fear and Despair. My only hope is that Trump runs against Julian Castro, who I personally believe the Democrats would be wise to run......Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

Still wondering what Jane and Bae think of Inslee throwing his hat in.Jay Inslee, KayLR, the Governor of Washington State? I've read online that he is one of the more disliked US Governors? Interesting if this is the case that he should toss his hat in the ring......it's like some of these politicians, both side of the aisle, have no clue as to how the majority truly perceives them.....Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

I agree. Having republican fiscal policies but dropping the creepy moralizing and judginess of republicans doesn't make one a centrist.I've always found Republican moralizing and judginess in the only country to in the the developed world in which human life is not worth socialized medicine to be completely BIZARRE.....just very bizarre and essentially non-sensical as where are the human rights to make up for the expectation of putting up with this? Beyond any disagreement/intense moral outrage I endure when confronted with Republican moralizing and judgement, once I calm down, my overall take on this unfortunate, alienating, and off-putting of Conservatives is....their thinking in this area is just BIZARRE. And non-sensical to an extreme. Rob

[JaneV2.0]

Inslee seems popular enough:
https://morningconsult.com/2017/10/31/americas-most-least-popular-governors-october-2017/