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gimmethesimplelife
3-26-19, 7:26pm
What's your take on Mueller's report and the obvious conclusion that there won't be an impeachment based on this report? Though I still refer to Trump as the Thug of Orange, I am getting used to him to some degree - scary, but human nature is such that what one can't change, one eventually adjusts to. I'm a bit down, but I'm taking heart in one thing unrelated. Apparently the yield curve on bonds has inverted which I'm told is a classic and reliable signal of an upcoming recession - if such happens on Trump's watch, let the fireworks begin. I'll sit back with some popcorn and learn how to say I told you so in multiple languages, starting with Arabic at first. Rob
iris lilies
3-26-19, 7:44pm
What's your take on Mueller's report and the obvious conclusion that there won't be an impeachment based on this report? Though I still refer to Trump as the Thug of Orange, I am getting used to him to some degree - scary, but human nature is such that what one can't change, one eventually adjusts to. I'm a bit down, but I'm taking heart in one thing unrelated. Apparently the yield curve on bonds has inverted which I'm told is a classic and reliable signal of an upcoming recession - if such happens on Trump's watch, let the fireworks begin. I'll sit back with some popcorn and learn how to say I told you so in multiple languages, starting with Arabic at first. Rob
Curious that you seem to be eagerly awaiting an economic downturn. I don’t know that that does much for your fellow 85006 residents, but whatever, And I don’t understand the “ I told you so” sentiment. what did you tell us and when? I mean what is causing the economic downturn And how did you predict that?
gimmethesimplelife
3-26-19, 7:55pm
Curious that you seem to be eagerly awaiting an economic downturn. I don’t know that that does much for your fellow 85006 residents, but whatever, And I don’t understand the quote I told you so” sentiment. what did you tell us and when? I mean what is causing the economic downturn And how did you predict that?IL. IL. IL......IL. Question for you, if I may? Where do you find in my post eagerness for an economic downtown? Such is not my wish, especially given that what I do for a living is economy dependent BIG TIME. I'm only saying if such does happen on Trump's watch, sentiment against him may increase to the point where his reelection is very much up in the air.
For the record I'd rather keep saving money, I find I'm very partial to saving money now that I make enough to actually save some money. What I am saying if that if a downturn is going to take place, if it's on Trump's watch, don't count on him being reelected....especially after the Obama era unemployment extensions that make the GOP cringe from here to eternity. About I told you so - what I mean is that nothing good could realistically come of a Trump Presidency overall - some scattered small things perhaps, such as his signing the Right To Try Bill (one thing he has done that I do very much support) but overall, not much good. A bruising recession would seem to prove my point. As to the 85006 - we will survive, we always have before and likely will going forward. Many here can bail for Mexico at will with Mexican passports so if things get really bad, some of this zip code has other options.....with saved US dollars from working here vs. lower costs in Mexico, some people do quite well upon returning. And as far as predicting a downturn, I am no economic expert nor do I play one online. Google if you will recessions likely due to inverted yield curves and see my point....if you are interested in doing so. Apparently this yield curve inversion SCREAMS impending recession - but don't take my word - learn from those who know much better than me. Rob
What's your take on Mueller's report...
I have not seen it yet. Is the text online somewhere convenient?
gimmethesimplelife
3-26-19, 8:58pm
I have not seen it yet. Is the text online somewhere convenient?I doh't know, bae....what I am referring to is the conclusion that Trump is not guilty of conspiring with the Russians to influence the 2016 elections, which, at least to me, was the point of the roller coaster ride to begin with - this determination. As to the full report, I don't know more than likely any of the rest of us do. Rob
What's your take on Mueller's report and the obvious conclusion that there won't be an impeachment based on this report?
As far as I know no one outside of AG Barr and Assistant AG Rosenstein have seen it so I'd be hard pressed to give you my take on it, maybe you have better sources? As for impeachment, it seems the Democrats will have to adjust their collusion plans and try to focus on another reason, which shouldn't be a problem for them since any reason will do.
gimmethesimplelife
3-26-19, 9:04pm
As far as I know no one outside of AG Barr and Assistant AG Rosenstein have seen it so I'd be hard pressed to give you my take on it, maybe you have better sources? As for impeachment, it seems the Democrats will have to adjust their collusion plans and try to focus on another reason, which shouldn't be a problem for them since any reason will do.The Dems are rather eager to have Trump out of office any way possible - on this much I have to agree with you. Amazing. See, never say never. Here we agree on something, Alan! Miracles never cease so I'm told LOL. Rob
iris lilies
3-26-19, 9:18pm
Oh Ok! so you are NOT eager for an economic downturn. Well then, good.
As others have pointed out, all we've seen so far is Barr's hastily prepared interpretation of the report. Considering his radical views on how to interpret the obstruction laws (under his view of the law one could not be charged with obstruction by flushing drugs down a toilet since there'd be no way to prove the underlying crime that caused the obstruction) and his actions during Iran-Contra I take anything he has said with a block of salt. Whether congress or the public will get to see the Mueller report is still an unknown. It may take some effort by the house of representatives to find out what the report actually says but I have confidence that ultimately our system will work. There's significant precedent (Starr report, anyone?) that it will have to largely be made public. Perhaps not as fast as any of us would prefer, but that's just the way it goes sometimes.
At the end of the day, though, I think we can all agree, at least the current president didn't lie about a blowjob. There's always that...
At the end of the day, though, I think we can all agree, at least the current president didn't lie about a blowjob. There's always that...
There was the business of paying off the porn star though.
From what little we know of the content, Mueller found insufficient evidence to support a collusion indictment and decided to punt the call on obstruction to the Attorney General.
In the absence of a more satisfying outcome, the Democrats are demanding the full report to mine for embarrassing details or to reinterpret for the “proper conclusion”. More fringe types will become Mueller truthers who see a cover up conspiracy.
A few of the more desperate presidential candidates will continue to work on their personal versions of the Orations against Cataline, committees will loudly investigate and the MSNBC graphics team will continue charting iniquities.
Ultimately the report will be remembered as neither beginning nor end.
There was the business of paying off the porn star though.
Ewwww. Icck. Surely she would have requested more than $130k to do that... I mean seriously, I've heard interviews and she sounds like a rational human being. personally doing that to trump would require far more than a $130k payment.
From what little we know of the content, Mueller found insufficient evidence to support a collusion indictment and decided to punt the call on obstruction to the Attorney General.
In the absence of a more satisfying outcome, the Democrats are demanding the full report to mine for embarrassing details or to reinterpret for the “proper conclusion”. More fringe types will become Mueller truthers who see a cover up conspiracy.
A few of the more desperate presidential candidates will continue to work on their personal versions of the Orations against Cataline, committees will loudly investigate and the MSNBC graphics team will continue charting iniquities.
Ultimately the report will be remembered as neither beginning nor end.
What exactly are you trying to say? You've gone into the whole profound blah blah blah that your post seems to be meaningless.
Personally i want to know what the Meuller report said. Not what some hack politician like Barr says it said. If you disagree with that concept i’d love to hear why.
flowerseverywhere
3-27-19, 6:20am
I’m glad it’s over, but since so many of our politicians and their appointed co conspirators have no problems telling outright lies, I also think more eyes than Barr’s need to review the report. Whether or not their is a smocking gun, there is evidence the Russians did indeed interfere with the election. Why don’t we want everyone to know that?
but truly, now that the 24/7 news coverage is not on collusion and conspiracy, the real issues will bubble to the surface.
Like the repeal of the ACA. Maybe we will go back to lifetime caps. One illness and you could lose everything. Or taking funds appropriated to the pentagon to build the wall or taking money from the education budget and shifting it to Christian schools? And the special olympics funding, Betsy said it could be funded privately. How about funding religious education privately.
Cutting Medicare could be particularly disasterous. Not only did you pay for it your whole working life, you pay premiums for an 80/20 plan. Plus you purchase separate drug coverage. So while not ideal, you get a pretty good policy for your money.
I dislike Trump’s behavior. I dislike the culture of fear of non whites, non Christians and so on. And the lies.
Recently a friend was talking about abortion and how the Democrats wanted to let babies be born, and put the baby to the side while the doctor and mother decided whether to administer care to the baby. He saw an MD on fox say that many babies would die while they talked about it, effectively murdering a healthy baby. I said I highly doubt you would find any physician or nurses who would stand by while a healthy baby died. He looked at another person and said, “see, another democrat who does not realize how the world is full of evil people who must be stopped”.
No shortage of paranoid conspiracy theory nutcases to be found.
flowerseverywhere
3-27-19, 6:27am
And while we were all distracted over collusion, in 2018 37,000 People died in the US from gun violence and suicide. Maybe we should be focusing on that a little more
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/theres-a-new-global-ranking-of-gun-deaths-heres-where-the-u-s-stands
I don't think it will be over until the dems have had a chance to rehash what ever might be released to the public and nit pick. Even with the respect that Mueller seems to get I have to wonder how his decisions were influenced by the impact of indicting a sitting president. Some public figure I can't recall said that when you celebrate not being indicted for a felony, the bar is pretty low. It doesn't affect my low opinion of Trump. Kind of interesting that I recall even Cohen saying he saw not evidence of collusion during his testimony before Congress. There is still a question in my mind as to whether Trump was just too cagey to get caught.
Even as it stands, the investigation flushed several of T's pals out of the political system and into the criminal justice system. I don't know what will happen to Roger Stone, but in my opinion anyone with a tattoo of Nixon on his back is a nut case.
And then there's the backlash of what sort of illegal conspiracy was behind starting the investigation in the first place. There was a little brief I heard where a reporter asked T whether Obama might have been behind that. T said, "I think you know the answer to that". I actually laughed out loud at how ridiculous that seemed.
What exactly are you trying to say? You've gone into the whole profound blah blah blah that your post seems to be meaningless.
Personally i want to know what the Meuller report said. Not what some hack politician like Barr says it said. If you disagree with that concept i’d love to hear why.
While lacking the pith of your blowjob commentary, I was saying that even if the report isn’t the bolt from the blue Trump’s enemies were hoping for they will salvage what they can and persevere with lesser investigations.
I think the Mueller report should be released in its entirety. I think they should also release the documents related to the previous administration’s decision to investigate the opposing party’s presidential campaign as a national security threat.
Thank you Ldahl. Surprisingly you and I are pretty much in agreement. Transparency and honesty are rarely bad things. Except maybe if one's wife asks 'honey, does this make me look fat?'
by the way, Ldhal, I apologize for being a dick yesterday. I'd had a bad day at work, then learned that my MIL had to be taken to the hospital after failing a heart stress test (she's doing much better today) and then went to an already planned happy hour with a friend where I managed to drink 3 beers in 1 1/2 hours. I should know better than to go online after all that and start posting stuff...
Teacher Terry
3-27-19, 9:42pm
It’s easy to be a ass online after having a bad day. Don’t ask me how I know:))
It’s easy for me to be a ass online after having a bad day. Don’t ask me how I know:))With minor edits, I could have written this about myself.
Teacher Terry
3-28-19, 5:29pm
:~)
gimmethesimplelife
5-7-19, 7:42pm
Ewwww. Icck. Surely she would have requested more than $130k to do that... I mean seriously, I've heard interviews and she sounds like a rational human being. personally doing that to trump would require far more than a $130k payment.Lord one would hope so. Rob
Teacher Terry
5-7-19, 8:02pm
Rob, you would have to put a bag over his head and tell him not to talk:))
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