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I have an in-person job interview for a university in the Chicago area. It will be a 7 hour drive and I will have to stay the night. The interview is two hours. I already did the phone interview and the video interview. They insist on an in-person too.
But they will not fund my transport or lodging.
Do you think I should do it?
The job would be a significant improvement upon my current job -- more money and better bennies.
Thoughts?
Dang it. Type. JOB! Not Jon. LOL
iris lilies
6-8-19, 8:31am
I fixed the title.
I don’t know if you should go or not. Throughout my career most of my interview trips were self funded, and I moved across the country a couple of times. But I did it because the work was more interesting and it was a job I wanted. Increased salary came with this job but that wasn’t primarily my reason for moving.
After all your recent adventures that you enjoyed, list all the pros and cons and see if it will make your life richer in adventures. I wouldn't worry about the travel expense for the interview, it would demonstrate to the potential employer that you are serious about the job. I expect that the employer has a government budget to limit any more.
If I decide to go, should I use two "sick days" or two "vacation days?"
When I worked for a university, I used sick days whenever I could. Vacation days accrued into a retirement fund that went with me when I retired. Sick days did not.
Yes go, and these things are self-funded. To me it is worth a chance.
I personally would take vacation, that is based on ethics for me. I would take it as sick time if I was getting a medical test or severely needing a break and it was urgent, like mental health.
I would go. You can always decline if it's offered. I did this in Phoenix when I lived in Ohio - I was going to be in Phoenix anyway for a wedding, so they waited 6 weeks to interview me.
Then they ended up offering me double my wage in Ohio, so I said yes and I've been here 9.5 years and I've never regretted it.
Teacher Terry
6-8-19, 11:24am
When I interviewed with states I had to self fund as no budget to pay for it. Some hired after a phone interview and one I had to fly in person. We weren’t allowed to use SL unless actually sick.
ApatheticNoMore
6-8-19, 1:05pm
It probably has decent dating prospects yes. I mean if there is noone to date in a city like Chicago, then maybe there isn't anywhere.
As for what is more ethical sick days or vacation, maybe vacation, but mostly I don't care. Corporations think nothing of employing people with no time-off if they want, so how much should I really care, so I can be 10 thousand times more ethical than they are? I think not. Whatever one can get away with.
More money, better bennies? Could you still in the loan forgiveness program? If so, GO!!!
BTW, in my experience, universities hardly ever pay travel for interviews. If the they do, it is only for the very very top positions.
It probably has decent dating prospects yes. I mean if there is noone to date in a city like Chicago, then maybe there isn't anywhere.
As for what is more ethical sick days or vacation, maybe vacation, but mostly I don't care. Corporations think nothing of employing people with no time-off if they want, so how much should I really care, so I can be 10 thousand times more ethical than they are? I think not. Whatever one can get away with.
Now there’s a proud boast: “I’m less unethical, in my petty way, than others”.
ApatheticNoMore
6-10-19, 10:22pm
Now there’s a proud boast: “I’m less unethical, in my petty way, than others”.
I find it absolutely unreal that people debate whether to take a sick or vacation day, and the ethics of that crap. Both clueless and privileged as all get go. My debates are more: go to the doctor when sick or not as I don't have time off. So people should take whatever the heck they want and go to an interview if they want to.
Actually I tend to strike people as super ethical (and I'm not trying to). But not by some BS "ethics" over the use of sick and vacation days.
Teacher Terry
6-10-19, 10:30pm
If we took a sick day instead of annual leave when not sick we would get a written reprimand and then no longer be trusted. Not worth it to me.
ApatheticNoMore
6-11-19, 3:17am
I don't have paid time off, but if I had a good interview I might take time off. and I most likely wouldn't but maybe would be punished if I took too much. who is to say, there's no rules, as there's no time off.
But i stress over time off (even a few hours) for doctor's appointments and to call a repair person. i can't wait tell this contract is over, it's feeling like a death march. so yea all these concerns seem laughable really. do what you can get away with, for me that might just be collapsing at my desk :P
It’s in Chicago, so no I would not go. But that’s me, be sure and look into the cost of living in Chicago compared to where you are. My son lives in the Chicago area and everything seems to be more expensive, and if they can think of a way to tax it, they will.
iris lilies
6-11-19, 8:35am
It’s in Chicago, so no I would not go. But that’s me, be sure and look into the cost of living in Chicago compared to where you are. My son lives in the Chicago area and everything seems to be more expensive, and if they can think of a way to tax it, they will.
My friend was telling me recently that his Chicago brother had to pay a “moving” tax. When he moved from one place in the city to another.
Madness.
Once a great city in a great state. Now, no more.
Teacher Terry
6-11-19, 10:41am
Chicago is a vibrant city with so much to do. It’s important though to compare COL with income to make sure you are not worse off.
I find it absolutely unreal that people debate whether to take a sick or vacation day, and the ethics of that crap. Both clueless and privileged as all get go. My debates are more: go to the doctor when sick or not as I don't have time off. So people should take whatever the heck they want and go to an interview if they want to.
Actually I tend to strike people as super ethical (and I'm not trying to). But not by some BS "ethics" over the use of sick and vacation days.
Is ethical conduct a luxury only available to the “privileged”?
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