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gimmethesimplelife
9-6-19, 10:16pm
I side with conservatives. Just this once. I just heard that Jussie Smollett's attorney is saying that even if his client lied - it's the fault of the Chicago Police for taking his client too seriously. Duh huh? I am as you'all know, very liberal - and even I don't get this. Are we in the Twilight Zone here? Is Rod Serling about to start narrating? What do you'all make of this? Rob

iris lilies
9-6-19, 11:20pm
I don’t care about what idiots like this say.

bae
9-7-19, 4:12am
Welcome to Rob's World. I am so glad I live on an island far from the mainland madness.

Tybee
9-7-19, 7:02am
I think lawyers make a case for their clients, they are obligated to do so. You work with what you have, even if it sounds goofy to the general public. You only have to put doubt in the mind of the juror, right?

gimmethesimplelife
9-7-19, 10:16am
Welcome to Rob's World. I am so glad I live on an island far from the mainland madness.? No comprende? How is this "Rob's World?" Not only did this happen in Chicago, which is three hours away from me by plane, but I'm taking a conservative stance here and siding with the Chicago Police on this one, which is far from my usual take. Rob

gimmethesimplelife
9-7-19, 10:19am
I don’t care about what idiots like this say.I agree with you here, IL. The lawyer involved is an idiot. This time I ACTUALLY SIDE WITH THE POLICE as this statement by the attorney is completely over the top ridiculous. Rob

gimmethesimplelife
9-7-19, 10:25am
I think lawyers make a case for their clients, they are obligated to do so. You work with what you have, even if it sounds goofy to the general public. You only have to put doubt in the mind of the juror, right?My take is that Smollett is not lacking for funds with which to defend himself. His attorney should have tested this defense via a focus group or two, as even I with my long history of anti police brutality activism and utter and complete distrust of American police - I side with the police here. This is indeed a very rare stance on.my part but clearly, to me at least, the police are not wrong this time and Smollett did indeed break the law. It is appropriate for consequences to be doled out to him the same as if you or I fabricated a false attack story and filed a false police report. Rob

Tradd
9-7-19, 10:28am
Haha. Agree with Rob. Just this once. I’m in the Chicago area so this is all over the news. Kim Foxx, the Crook County state’s attorney, seems to have very little support. She’s a black woman and even with those boxes checked, still has very little support.

Alan
9-7-19, 10:36am
Rob, I appreciate the way you've consistently referred to the reasonable parties in this issue as the 'conservative' side, even though it has nothing to do with politics. There may be hope for you yet. ;)

gimmethesimplelife
9-7-19, 10:50am
Haha. Agree with Rob. Just this once. I’m in the Chicago area so this is all over the news. Kim Foxx, the Crook County state’s attorney, seems to have very little support. She’s a black woman and even with those boxes checked, still has very little support.Seriously.....my.mind reels
What was Kim Foxx thinking when she dismissed/dropped charges, and why did she not understand that doing so would lead to public blowback and a pr fiasco? I don't live in Chicago so there may be nuances here I don't get by virtue of not being familiar with the players - sort of how I have some grasp on politics in Arizona surrounding a figure such as former Sheriff Joe Arpaio that others here may not have given they don"t live in Arizona - that said, though......zi just don't get it. And I'm glad this Kim Foxx has little support. This was a seriously bad call on her part. Rob

iris lilies
9-7-19, 1:01pm
Seriously.....my.mind reels
What was Kim Foxx thinking when she dismissed/dropped charges, and why did she not understand that doing so would lead to public blowback and a pr fiasco? I don't live in Chicago so there may be nuances here I don't get by virtue of not being familiar with the players - sort of how I have some grasp on politics in Arizona surrounding a figure such as former Sheriff Joe Arpaio that others here may not have given they don"t live in Arizona - that said, though......zi just don't get it. And I'm glad this Kim Foxx has little support. This was a seriously bad call on her part. Rob

Without knowing her reasons, I would say that dropping the charges is a way to save taxpayers money. Not all crimes are prosecuted even when they are slam dunk winnable. A crime like this is pretty minor and what are the consequences anyway? It is much ado about nothing.

gimmethesimplelife
9-8-19, 1:34pm
Rob, I appreciate the way you've consistently referred to the reasonable parties in this issue as the 'conservative' side, even though it has nothing to do with politics. There may be hope for you yet. ;)I'm not going conservative or batting for the other team politically all of a sudden. That said, this one time on this one issue, the conservative take is saner. Much saner. Even I can see that. Surprise! Rob

Alan
9-8-19, 2:31pm
I'm not going conservative or batting for the other team politically all of a sudden. That said, this one time on this one issue, the conservative take is saner. Much saner. Even I can see that. Surprise! RobI think you missed my point. It's not that the conservative take is saner, it's that the reasonable response is saner and you identify that with conservatives. That's why there's hope for you yet.

LDAHL
9-10-19, 10:03am
I don’t believe the whole ridiculous incident can be broken down on conservative/liberal lines. Unless someone is totally blinded by ideology, a preference for truth over falsehood, dignity over mendacity, and justice over privilege would not need to be a matter of politics.

It is the tragedy of our times that so many assume our politics inform our ethics rather than the other way around.