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gimmethesimplelife
9-20-19, 6:19pm
Not long ago I posted of a house on the market for over 300K in the 85006. I posted that pigs will fly before the seller gets that much for the house in my neighborhood.

That house to date remains unsold BUT a slightly larger and nicer house not far from me just sold for 320K in the 85006. I'm utterly amazed......and a bit worried as Phoenix historically has been very boom/bust in regards to real estate.

Just never thought a house on my street would sell for THAT much. Rob

bae
9-20-19, 6:24pm
Soon normal folks will be priced out of your neighborhood. Welcome to Seattle.

sweetana3
9-20-19, 7:28pm
Hey, a $1.3 million one was just sold around the corner from me. So out of place. But a renovated townhouse with no parking (street only) sold for $450,000. Crazy. Last couple of years have really heated up the market downtown in Indianapolis. Our house is almost a tear down.

jp1
9-21-19, 8:59am
Out if curiosity i just looked and of the 14 listings in san francisco that are $320,000 or cheaper nine are below market rate (income maximum to buy them) and three are vacant lots.

JaneV2.0
9-21-19, 10:08am
Soon normal folks will be priced out of your neighborhood. Welcome to Seattle.

And Portland, and half of California. It reminds me of the idea that you have to work, work, work to afford your house that you're too busy working to enjoy. (And now there's grotesquely-priced health insurance to keep you slaving until you fall into your grave...)

iris lilies
9-21-19, 11:30am
And Portland, and half of California. It reminds me of the idea that you have to work, work, work to afford your house that you're too busy working to enjoy. (And now there's grotesquely-priced health insurance to keep you slaving until you fall into your grave...)

This is a grotesquely exaggerated view of the world.


I wouldn’t move to either coast because of real estate costs. Once many decades ago it was only the East Coast that was crazy expensive (well, parts of California as well) and as much as I would have
liked to live in several places on the East Coast, I didn’t move there to due cost of real estate. I wanted to own a house. I had my eye on Portland or the Willamette Valley decades ago but now – nope.And frankly, if you wanna know the truth, back then libraries in the Willamette Valley were not progressive and their technology was not first rate. I would’ve been taking a step down in a technological environment to take a job there. Midwestern libraries were more progressive especially Illinois.


People who live there choose it, let them enjoy their choices.

And as for health insurance, please don’t forget that your president, Barack Obama, created affordable health insurance for everyone with the ACA. He told us we could afford it.If you don’t think that’s affordable then I wonder was that another fantasy he sold to the American public? Personally I think it’s a decent option.

JaneV2.0
9-21-19, 11:45am
This is a grotesquely exaggerated view of the world.


I wouldn’t move to either coast because of real estate costs. Once many decades ago it was only the East Coast that was crazy expensive (well, parts of California as well) and as much as I would have
liked to live in several places on the East Coast, I didn’t move there to due cost of real estate. I wanted to own a house. I had my eye on Portland or the Willamette Valley decades ago but now – nope.And frankly, if you wanna know the truth, back then libraries in the Willamette Valley were not progressive and their technology was not first rate. I would’ve been taking a step down in a technological environment to take a job there. Midwestern libraries were more progressive especially Illinois.


People who live there choose it, let them enjoy their choices.

And as for health insurance, please don’t forget that your president, Barack Obama, created affordable health insurance for everyone with the ACA. He told us we could afford it.If you don’t think that’s affordable then I wonder was that another fantasy he sold to the American public? Personally I think it’s a decent option.

As libraries go, Corvallis has one of the best, according to my bibliophile friend who lives there. And there are lovely Victorian homes in Albany, the next town over. Not to mention the excellent growing season. I think you would have liked it there. The King County Library System, which I would be loath to leave, is consistently top-ranked and, IMO, second to none.

The ACA should have been a decent option, if the insurance companies (and the Republicans) hadn't undercut it at every opportunity. I'd like to see the insurance industry marginalized, personally. And Pharma strictly regulated.

Ultralight
9-21-19, 11:58am
I wouldn’t move to either coast because of real estate costs. Once many decades ago it was only the East Coast that was crazy expensive (well, parts of California as well) and as much as I would have
liked to live in several places on the East Coast, I didn’t move there to due cost of real estate.

When people on the coasts complain about housing costs I say: Then move!
I think that people feel entitled to live in the part of the country they like the most.

If I had a few million bucks in the bank I'd move to Key West. But I cannot afford that, so I live in the Midwest.

Teacher Terry
9-21-19, 12:35pm
I have moved numerous times for jobs. For some people in certain careers living by the coasts bring them big salaries and they are better off than being in the Midwest. Unfortunately, salaries don’t vary much in human services so it wasn’t the case for me. Human services was also more progressive in the Midwest than here 22 years ago and nothing has changed. Yes we could sell our house and move back to the Midwest and buy one for half the price with much higher taxes. We would be giving up all the events going on constantly, great weather that allows you to be outside year round, so much beauty. There’s a reason our area is constantly growing. The ACA would have been fine if the Republicans hadn’t started chipping away at it. I worry about the young people that were born here and would like to stay. My oldest son and his wife love it here and have been here a long time. They rent and it’s a issue. I would like to live by one of my kids in my later years. It’s been great. We are all very close.

Ultralight
9-21-19, 12:41pm
For some people in certain careers living by the coasts bring them big salaries and they are better off than being in the Midwest. Right. And they have nothing to complain about.

Alan
9-21-19, 12:55pm
The ACA should have been a decent option, if the insurance companies (and the Republicans) hadn't undercut it at every opportunity.


The ACA would have been fine if the Republicans hadn’t started chipping away at it. Other than eliminating one of the greatest travesty's our government has ever imposed on it's citizens, the requirement to purchase a product, what have the Republicans done to harm the ACA? In my mind, they've only made it better.

Rogar
9-21-19, 1:17pm
At one time I had a notion of how the various government inflation indices were calculated but I would think housing costs must be or should included somewhere. It doesn't seem like their inflation figures account for the big increases in housing costs (or health care for that matter).

jp1
9-21-19, 1:33pm
When people on the coasts complain about housing costs I say: Then move!


That's the plan. As soon as SO and I no longer want our high paying big city jobs we're going to be those people that move somewhere less expensive and run up real estate prices there.

Teacher Terry
9-21-19, 1:51pm
That’s exactly what is happening here. But you cannot blame people.

ApatheticNoMore
9-21-19, 2:27pm
When people on the coasts complain about housing costs I say: Then move!

I don't' think you actually know anything about housing costs on the coast, because my rent on a 1 bedroom isn't that much more than I've heard UL paying on a studio (maybe he has since moved somewhere more affordable, because he last place wasn't particularly cheap). And I earn enough that it probably makes up for it and maybe more than makes up for it (while times are good anyway, as sometimes they aren't). If one can afford one's bills, and to save, and doesn't even have debt, what exactly is the issue.

Ultralight
9-21-19, 2:30pm
I don't' think you actually know anything about housing costs on the coast, because my rent on a 1 bedroom isn't that much more than I've heard UL paying on a studio (maybe he has since moved somewhere more affordable, because he last place wasn't). And I earn quite a bit more probably (while times are good anyway, so yea I've learned to say "for now", as sometimes they aren't).

I pay about a grand a month in rent.

ApatheticNoMore
9-21-19, 2:36pm
I pay about a grand a month in rent.

I pay under $1300.

Ultralight
9-21-19, 2:39pm
I pay under $1300.

I have two bedroom, two full bath. AC, dishwasher, W/D, small balcony.

ApatheticNoMore
9-21-19, 2:42pm
I have two bedroom, two full bath. AC, dishwasher, W/D, small balcony.

I don't need any of those things. Ok I do have AC and maybe kind of need it :) Shared washer/dryer on premises. No balcony, but some rose bushes.

JaneV2.0
9-21-19, 2:49pm
The PNW wasn't always so expensive; it's only been the last few decades that prices have risen sharply. Fortunately, I was able to buy before real estate really took off. I love it here, and wouldn't move to a flatter place inland for any incentive. Luckily for me, that won't be necessary.

Ultralight
9-21-19, 3:02pm
I don't need any of those things. Ok I do have AC and maybe kind of need it :) Shared washer/dryer on premises. No balcony, but some rose bushes.

I am definitely not bragging. Just a cost of living comparison.

ToomuchStuff
9-22-19, 12:59am
So until goats will climb tree's?