Phoenix Officer Fired

[Yppej]

This is in the alleged stolen doll incident. Rob, you must be thrilled.

[Teacher Terry]

One was fired and I agree with it. The other one tried to calm the situation so kept his job. But got a short suspension for swearing at the family. The family is suing for 10 million which I find ridiculous.

[gimmethesimplelife]

This is in the alleged stolen doll incident. Rob, you must be thrilled.OMG! I had not heard that, not even in the 85006 on a day off....though I haven't checked my voice and there's been a few calls. WONDERFUL NEWS!!! Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

I just checked online and sure enough, Phoenix Police Chief Jeri William's did indeed fire the evil cretin/neanderthal Christopher Myers. I take back some of my 85006 anger against the woman. It took her an awful long time but she did come through for Phoenix. Kudos, just get to the termination part faster next time. But Thank You, Chief Williams. Thank You for being human and for doing the right thing. Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

One more comment.....I've been engaging in long distance activism against the La Paz County Sheriff's Department (in rural Western Arizona) due to a Deputy named Eli Max violating the Civil Rights of Philip Colbert, a young African American man he pulled over. Thankfully Colbert recorded everything and has retained attorneys for a lawsuit, very much deserved in this case. I hope this Eli Max meets the same fate.....Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

One was fired and I agree with it. The other one tried to calm the situation so kept his job. But got a short suspension for swearing at the family. The family is suing for 10 million which I find ridiculous.I find it ridiculous, too....in the sense that it's not enough. I'm thinking a cool 70 million would send a very loud and clear message to PD's nationwide along with their liability insurance carriers, and would perhaps start to usher in some real change. Rob

[Teacher Terry]

The family wasn’t hurt and the taxpayers will ultimately pay. The officers won’t pay.

[JaneV2.0]

The family wasn’t hurt and the taxpayers will ultimately pay. The officers won’t pay.

I doubt they'll soon forget the fear and humiliation they suffered (if current events are any clue, one or more of them could have been killed by the unhinged officer), so I'm not troubled by whatever settlement a jury decides on. A message needs to be sent.

[gimmethesimplelife]

I doubt they'll soon forget the fear and humiliation they suffered (if current events are any clue, one or more of them could have been killed by the unhinged officer), so I'm not troubled by whatever settlement a jury decides on. A message need to be sent.This is exactly where I am coming from. Thank You, Jane. I could not have said this any better myself. Let's hope that a message does indeed get sent. Rob

[razz]

Those sort of claims involving multimillions of dollars while having a valid basis are not sustainable. Taxes simply are increased to pay the premiums. If the premiums are too high, insurance companies will refuse to provide coverage harming everyone. I am puzzled by the glee at making lawyers rich and making the taxpayer poorer. It strikes me as a very destructive form of insanity. But, whatever turns your crank...

[gimmethesimplelife]

Those sort of claims involving multimillions of dollars while having a valid basis are not sustainable. Taxes simply are increased to pay the premiums. If the premiums are too high, insurance companies will refuse to provide coverage harming everyone. I am puzzled by the glee at making lawyers rich and making the taxpayer poorer. It strikes me as a very destructive form of insanity. But, whatever turns your crank...Perhaps huge settlements are unsustainable.....but then again so is the American Militarized Srtle Of Policing which us responsible for us even having this discussion in the first place. Why shouldn't some cash in while this policing system slowly implodes? You'd think Conservatives would approve if such as cashing in is very American if nothing else. Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

Perhaps huge settlements are unsustainable.....but then again so is the American Militarized Srtle Of Policing which us responsible for us even having this discussion in the first place. Why shouldn't some cash in while this policing system slowly implodes? You'd think Conservatives would approve if such as cashing in is very American if nothing else. Robshould be Militarized Style Of Policing above. Rob

[herbgeek]

Why shouldn't some cash in while this policing system slowly implodes?

Because the money is coming out the taxpayers pockets. You seem to think that settlements/judgments are coming out of officers' personal pay, and are personal punishments. They aren't. We all pay for this.

[JaneV2.0]

Because the money is coming out the taxpayers pockets. You seem to think that settlements/judgments are coming out of officers' personal pay, and are personal punishments. They aren't. We all pay for this.

Then maybe we'll exert pressure on police forces to hire decent, well-qualified people and not a bunch of badge-wearing bullies.

[Teacher Terry]

The testing is rigorous to be a cop including psychological testing. I am speculating that 2 things happen. First some unfit people are not weeded out by the testing and then that cops start out good but become scarred by what they experience every day and end up bad. Not a excuse for their behavior. That would be a good time to find a new career but by then the pension is more like golden handcuffs.

[LDAHL]

Are we in fact suffering from a “bunch of badge-wearing bullies”, or is our media-driven perspective magnifying the impact of a miniscule minority of bad actors? Do we have more proportionately to fear from bad cops than from bad surgeons or bad truck drivers?

[JaneV2.0]

The testing is rigorous to be a cop including psychological testing. I am speculating that 2 things happen. First some unfit people are not weeded out by the testing and then that cops start out good but become scarred by what they experience every day and end up bad. Not a excuse for their behavior. That would be a good time to find a new career but by then the pension is more like golden handcuffs.

In Tacoma, there were red flags all over the place--including psychological test results--for officer David Brame, who somehow managed to become his city's Police chief, until the day when he shot his estranged wife in front of their children, then turned the gun on himself.