K2, heart health, and osteoporosis

[JaneV2.0]

This came across my twitter feed this morning:

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And the following article expands on it:

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-k2#bone-health

So you can eat butter and gouda to your heart's desire (see what I did there?).

[catherine]

Thanks--interesting studies.


Rich animal sources include high-fat dairy products from grass-fed cows, egg yolks, as well as liver and other organ meats (30Trusted Source).

Vitamin K is fat-soluble, which means low-fat and lean animal products don't contain much of it.

Animal foods contain the MK-4 subtype, while fermented foods like sauerkraut, natto and miso pack more of the longer subtypes, MK-5 to MK-14 (31Trusted Source).

I'm into the grass-fed beef, egg yolks (amazing how we were duped for years into believing that egg yolks were bad for us), sauerkraut, and miso. Happy to eat lots of any of those things.

It's good information for me, as I have osteopenia and a touch of osteoporosis in my lumbar spine.

[JaneV2.0]

I always say my love of eggs and cheese served me well when I followed a vegetarian diet. I'm planning on stocking up on cheese (gouda!) and eggs today. I'm down to one egg, and I usually panic when I'm down to a dozen. Also, I've got what I need to make some fermented foods, and I'm going to reacquaint myself with liver. If it kills me...>8)

I remember reading a study some years ago showing that older women who ate the most protein had the best outcomes for building bone. Makes sense to me, as protein is the body's building material.

[catherine]

I always say my love of eggs and cheese served me well when I followed a vegetarian diet. I'm planning on stocking up on cheese (gouda!) and eggs today. I'm down to one egg, and I usually panic when I'm down to a dozen. Also, I've got what I need to make some fermented foods, and I'm going to reacquaint myself with liver. If it kills me...>8)

When I worked at Union Carbide for 3 miserable years, the best thing about working there was the cafeteria and once a week they had mixed grill--beef, sausage and liver. It was the only time I had liver regularly and it was delicious--maybe try making mixed grill at home? (With lots of onions, of course)

[JaneV2.0]

When I worked at Union Carbide for 3 miserable years, the best thing about working there was the cafeteria and once a week they had mixed grill--beef, sausage and liver. It was the only time I had liver regularly and it was delicious--maybe try making mixed grill at home? (With lots of onions, of course)

I have eaten liver--my long-lived father was a fan--and I think you're right--lots of onions fix anything. Also, I can make a chicken liver pate', because garlic, ditto.

[iris lilies]

Onions and garlic, those are the saviors of food.

[Tybee]

My mother used to make the most amazing liver loaf, from the Joy of Cooking cookbook. Will see if I can find it--it was everyone's favorite one summer, back around 1974.

Okay, on the trail of the recipe, found this, which you should all like:

https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BFIGCEE19700921.1.19&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN---------------1

[JaneV2.0]

I used to make liver loaf for my cat, though I never tasted it.\
Thanks for the link!

[frugal-one]

Enjoy liver and onions with bacon.

[JaneV2.0]

Enjoy liver and onions with bacon.

Bacon is another of those substances that makes everything better, that's for sure.

[Tybee]

Found it! Here is the recipe itself:

https://books.google.com/books?id=C4_5MCUd6ucC&pg=PA493&lpg=PA493&dq=joy+of+cooking+liver+loaf&source=bl&ots=2fbUMwrAOV&sig=ACfU3U3DEolXuU4FHCO6xsMKY5g-g3vkPA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj3ltG6qobmAhWRtZ4KHS0OAaMQ6AEwEnoECBQQA Q#v=onepage&q=joy%20of%20cooking%20liver%20loaf&f=false

[JaneV2.0]

Found it! Here is the recipe itself:

https://books.google.com/books?id=C4_5MCUd6ucC&pg=PA493&lpg=PA493&dq=joy+of+cooking+liver+loaf&source=bl&ots=2fbUMwrAOV&sig=ACfU3U3DEolXuU4FHCO6xsMKY5g-g3vkPA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj3ltG6qobmAhWRtZ4KHS0OAaMQ6AEwEnoECBQQA Q#v=onepage&q=joy%20of%20cooking%20liver%20loaf&f=false

How to skin a squirrel, eh? Gotta love these old-timey cookbooks! (My mother, who never in her life used a cookbook, to my knowledge, got The Joy of Cooking as a wedding present. She mostly mocked it.)

[Tybee]

It was the go-to in our house, and my dad got heavily into bread making one summer using it.

A great cookbook.

[ApatheticNoMore]

It's the best selling cookbook of all time (in the u.s.), and yes if you want to know how to make something that is mainstream in the U.S., it will be there, and usually pretty good as well, unless you are getting into more obscure ethnic dishes, and plenty of other books for that.

[JaneV2.0]

They're just now coming out with a new edition of J of C, written by the granddaughter (?) of the original author.

[catherine]

I hate to admit that I had Joy of Cooking, but felt it was like reading Les Miserables in French. I could get through it, but not without a lot of work.

[JaneV2.0]

I hate to admit that I had Joy of Cooking, but felt it was like reading Les Miserables in French. I could get through it, but not without a lot of work.

That was pretty much my mother's assessment.

[nswef]

I loved reading Joy of Cooking although the most used cook book of my era 70s marriage was the Red Betty Crocker or maybe Better Homes and Gardens. Mine is Betty Crocker and I still go to it for some of the little cooking I do.

Back to the topic....protein was pushed heavily as I was recovering at the rehab home for 7 weeks. I'm still eating 2 eggs a day with butter....I LOVE butter.

[iris lilies]

The value of The Joy of Cooking is that it was the first widely distributed cookbook to lay out methods and materials clearly. Cooking guides of the time didn't do that. It is a format that we now take for granted because modern recipes use it.

Irma Rombauer lived in St. Louis and self published her cookbook during the Depression. She sold it door to door to make money for her household.

I got rid of my falling apart coffee years ago. I certainly didn’t read it because I don’t read cookbooks. But it was a reference tool and I use it whenever we cooked a turkey because not every cookbook gives basic information like that as yet how long and at what temperature to cook a turkey.

[JaneV2.0]

I read cookbooks, and have lots (both print and ebooks)--I just don't use them. Maybe if I bake something, which happens rarely.

[Simplemind]

My mom was a great cook and had a large pantry filled with shelf upon shelf of cookbooks she collected. I still miss her liver with onions and bacon. Dad was a hunter and we had moose, caribou, elk, etc and mom had recipes for all. The 1954 Westinghouse cookbook was the go to for her amazing lemon pie and dad's Christmas morning pecan sticky buns. I sold the hundreds of cookbooks but kept this old war horse because I cherish her notes in all the margins. Especially the recipes that have "HORRIBLE" next to them. 3034

[Teacher Terry]

I have always loved cheese and eggs. I eat meat daily. Diet is one thing I really don’t worry about. I watch my weight and eat things in moderation. That’s funny SM.

[catherine]

My mom was a great cook and had a large pantry filled with shelf upon shelf of cookbooks she collected. I still miss her liver with onions and bacon. Dad was a hunter and we had moose, caribou, elk, etc and mom had recipes for all. The 1954 Westinghouse cookbook was the go to for her amazing lemon pie and dad's Christmas morning pecan sticky buns. I sold the hundreds of cookbooks but kept this old war horse because I cherish her notes in all the margins. Especially the recipes that have "HORRIBLE" next to them. 3034

Wow! Betty Furness! When I was working on the 1976 Democratic and Republican Conventions, I had to take Betty Furness's picture for her press pass. I remember her being VERY slight, and when she came in, she sat on the chair and refreshed all her make-up and lipstick. I was so star-struck when I was in that job!

Here's a recipe from one of my favorite cookbooks: The Highlander's Cookbook--Recipes from Scotland, which explains why Joy of Cooking was Greek to me.

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