View Full Version : Despicable. ICE needs to be abolished.
TLDR version. ICE created a fake university, got foreigners with student visas to register, took their tuition, then busted them for immigration violations because they weren’t enrolled in a real university and deported them.
Teacher Terry
12-1-19, 1:20pm
Totally agree with you.
iris lilies
12-1-19, 1:48pm
As you tell it, that seems like a ridiculous waste of my tax dollars.
As you tell it, that seems like a ridiculous waste of my tax dollars.The fake college was created in 2013 under the Obama administration and the sting has been in action since then. I'm pretty sure that back then they believed that's what tax dollars were for.
What’s wrong with catching people here illegally by subterfuge? I can’t fault Obama too much for this. It certainly seems to have worked better than the gun running scam.
What’s wrong with catching people here illegally by subterfuge? I can’t fault Obama too much for this. It certainly seems to have worked better than the gun running scam.
Perhaps instead of creating a new fictitious university they could have just used Trump u and had the same result.
But what kind of shitty society are we if we create a fake school just to catch people who are trying to come here legitimately for an education. These weren’t people trying to scam the system to get here. Some people may be cool with that but i’m certainly not.
Did the students know it was a fake university? Were they attending any classes that would have led them to believe it was a real school?
Diploma mills are not unheard of. I would not assume the "students" were innocent victims.
Did the students know it was a fake university? Were they attending any classes that would have led them to believe it was a real school?
Diploma mills are not unheard of. I would not assume the "students" were innocent victims.
As I understand it, the university didn't offer classes.
Did the students know it was a fake university? Were they attending any classes that would have led them to believe it was a real school?
Diploma mills are not unheard of. I would not assume the "students" were innocent victims.
It appears that they didn’t know it was fake until after they’d been scammed out of their money and gotten here. ICE was giving the earlier scammed the choice of being deported or helping them ensnare other victims from their home countries.
When law enforcement is not enforcing the law against people who knowingly are committing crimes but are instead creating criminals out of people who are trying to go about improving their lives legally then the law ‘enforcers’ are the bad guys in the equation.
Thank you for explaining Jp1 that it was entrapment.
I can't believe this is happening.
Perhaps instead of creating a new fictitious university they could have just used Trump u and had the same result.
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Then you’d be after him with the emoluments clause. Although when the Obama people set the thing up, they probably wouldn’t have wanted to throw him the business.
Then you’d be after him with the emoluments clause. Although when the Obama people set the thing up, they probably wouldn’t have wanted to throw him the business.
True. Although he’s been plenty emolument all without adding this to the equation.
Personally, I'd like to see ICE disbanded and charges brought against those who had no trouble following increasingly cruel orders and, without an apparent shred of humanity, allowed people to die in their charge.
Ah, here we go:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2019/11/30/understanding-the-bizarre-ice-fake-university-sting-operation/
The Forbes writer used rouse instead of ruse. It annoys me when people paid to write make these errors, and makes me wonder how accurate their reporting is.
gimmethesimplelife
12-1-19, 10:25pm
I can't believe this is happening.I'd agree that it's absolutely insane. And then some. Rob
ToomuchStuff
12-2-19, 1:17am
TLDR version. ICE created a fake university, got foreigners with student visas to register, took their tuition, then busted them for immigration violations because they weren’t enrolled in a real university and deported them.
Since the "university" site is down, I can't tell exactly how it was set up, can you?
If it didn't list classes, schedules and locations, how would one not think it was a diploma mill (fake school).
And something else to remember, law enforcement, doesn't have to tell you the truth.
There have been lots of stings over the years, where LEO's have done things such as :
1. You have won a prize.
2. Your invited to a party, friends, food, music by spoc.
etc.
At the end of the day if the only reason someone broke the law is because law enforcement tricked them into breaking a law they would not otherwise have broken then law enforcement is the problem, not the solution.
iris lilies
12-2-19, 10:21am
Since the "university" site is down, I can't tell exactly how it was set up, can you?
If it didn't list classes, schedules and locations, how would one not think it was a diploma mill (fake school).
And something else to remember, law enforcement, doesn't have to tell you the truth.
There have been lots of stings over the years, where LEO's have done things such as :
1. You have won a prize.
2. Your invited to a party, friends, food, music by spoc.
etc.
well, but—those tactics have been used in my city, to round up badnicks with warrants. They had already committed the crimes, the “you have won a prize” ruse was to locate them.
We do have occasional discussions on Nextdoor about bait cars put out for car thieves, but
I don’t know how prevalent is this practice of the cops. I don’t think is IS prevalent.
ToomuchStuff
12-2-19, 10:57am
well, but—those tactics have been used in my city, to round up badnicks with warrants. They had already committed the crimes, the “you have won a prize” ruse was to locate them.
We do have occasional discussions on Nextdoor about bait cars put out for car thieves, but
I don’t know how prevalent is this practice of the cops. I don’t think is IS prevalent.
It depends on the cop that gets the car. My relative got the car that KC used and was involved in lots of busts with it. When another dept tried to take the car, it went away, as it was linked to them, specifically.
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