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Chicken lady
2-3-20, 11:05am
Ok, I am terrible at self discipline. The same factors that make me want to make bad choices make me too worn down to stop myself.
dh is usually pretty good at helping me, but for some reason he has focused in on convincing me that I still look good and keeps convincing me I can “cheat” on my goals when I’m having a hard day (I think he’s going for the quick happy). But honestly, lately they are all hard days.
so I’m looking for (a) partner(s) who would also like to improve eating and moving behaviors (I don’t care if you want to gain/lose weight, but I would like to track my progress here) who will help keep me accountable.
i weigh 155. My knees hurt. My hip hurts. I don’t like the way my body feels when I move and I don’t like the way it looks naked. I seem to have gotten used to the pain and dh is undermining the last one, and not moving is a bad but too common solution. Also, many of my clothes don’t fit.
i need to do something active every day. Yesterday I cleaned stalls for 2.5 hours.
i need to eat better. This morning I had whole grain hot cereal with a tablespoon of honey and I remembered to take my vitamin. It was very tempting to eat brownies for breakfast. Dh left them on the counter. But I didn’t. Mornings are my strongest times.
iris lilies
2-3-20, 12:17pm
CL, I wish you well on your weight-loss journey but I won’t be an Internet buddy.
Before Christmas I joined up with Weight Watchers, I need to lose a few sizes.
Recently I discovered Lizzo and her back up dancers, and was gratified to see I could join that group if I ever needed employment in the entertainment industry.But my goal is to become less Lizzo-back -up dancer – like.
Last Saturday I went to the thrift stores around Hermann and ran into a nice Jacket made of Cashmere and wool. It was so soft! I put it on and it was completely unflattering. And I remembered all the reasons why I don’t like Cashmere – it has no body. If one has lumps and bumps, the cashmere does not camouflage them. In addition, cashmere needs a level of care I’m not willing to give. Also I have a slight allergy to wool. For all these reasons this nice jacket was not for me so I reluctantly put it back on the rack.
Make sure you’re aware of the calorie content of that whole-grain cereal. Look I don’t eat it so I don’t know, but I did learn at weight watchers at oatmeal has a ton of points. That surprised me because oatmeal is disgusting to me why would anyone eat it? Eggs have only 2 weight watchers points. I love eggs.
Chicken Lady I am here with you.
I have all your complaints except but, no dh to tell me I look okay.
He always did but, it has been too long to blame him anymore.
This morning I was 162 and I am not happy!
Back in Nov I was at 155
and hoping to lose 15 lbs so now that is up to 22 lbs.
I belong to a TOPS Group but, there seems to be way too many of us
that are in the same rut of up and down but, never staying down.
I have just ate 2 pickled eggs first food today. Not so good but, not all bad.
I am volunteering this afternoon so I am going to walk 15 min each way
and on my feet when there. I will pack a good lunch and snack because there
is junk food everywhere there....
I am looking to lose at least 1 lb a week.
Best case I would be down to 140 by the end of June! Yeah
Thank you for the invite to do this together.
I have found that the more carbohydrates I eat, the hungrier I get (see insulin resistance). (That doesn't seem to hold true within a fasting framework.)
Exercise is great, but it doesn't generally lead to weight loss (see Gary Taubes).
According to my nutrition program, you could have had two brownies for fewer carbohydrates/less sugar than the cereal and honey probably had.
For me, the gold standard seems to be lowish carb combined with intermittent fasting. The fasting lets me get away with more carbs, and the low carb lets me get through the day with no hunger. I've lost a moderate amount of weight, but mostly I'm confident I'm supporting my health.
I know what you mean about not moving--it's very tempting when moving is painful. Good luck with whatever plan you choose.
Chicken lady
2-3-20, 12:35pm
Iris lilies,
I have friends who have done WW, and from them I have learned that it works really well for some people, but I am not the right personality type.
whole grain cereal has lots of nutrition and makes me feel full.
thank you danna! Resist that junk food!
i am going to need more focus on the behavior than the weight. I am eating carrots for lunch and then I am going to go to a great class I am taking, where I get busy and not hungry. My big challenges today will be not eating a free cookie when I stop at the grocery store and not snacking if I get home before dinner is ready.
also, I need to fit in at least 30 minutes of exercise.
Chicken lady
2-3-20, 12:39pm
Jane, cross post.
brownies would have had me hungry again by eight.
my brother tells me “you get fit at the gym. You lose weight in the kitchen.”
Teacher Terry
2-3-20, 12:42pm
It’s such a struggle as we age. 4 years ago it took me a year to lose 40lbs. I also do a lot of walking. I counted calories and limited myself to 1600 day which forced me to make healthier choices. IL, I love oatmeal and because it’s low calorie so ate lots of it. My back was going out a lot from the weight. Someone told me to pick one day a week for a cheat meal and not to count calories that day. She said it kept the body confused so it wouldn’t get used to the amount of calories you were eating. Eventually my body hit a point where I couldn’t lose anymore or if I did it came back so that has become my maintenance weight. Good luck everyone!
It’s such a struggle as we age. 4 years ago it took me a year to lose 40lbs. ...
My loss has been closer to ten pounds a year. I hope to tweak it toward a slightly faster pace.
Teacher Terry
2-3-20, 1:04pm
Wow Jane that’s really slow. I think you are about 10 years older than me so that’s probably contributing to the rate. So much fun getting old:((
Wow Jane that’s really slow. I think you are about 10 years older than me so that’s probably contributing to the rate. So much fun getting old:((
Ha--Don't rub it in...
But losing ten pounds a year is preferable to gaining, so...
My 66 yo art teacher has shed about 50 lbs since I saw her last year. Weight watchers. I guess it all comes down to iron will motivation but I have never been able to follow a strict regime/diet of any kind and be successful at it. At some point, my eating motto became all things in moderation so over time that has worked for me. It is such an individual thing but if I mix carbs with protein and/or fat of some sort, I don't feel hungry again for a while. Thick cut oatmeal with blueberries and nuts every other morning. Olive oil scrambled eggs with some sort of greens mixed on other mornings. Or maybe peanut butter or avocado on sprouted bread toast.
iris lilies
2-3-20, 2:28pm
Iris lilies,
I have friends who have done WW, and from them I have learned that it works really well for some people, but I am not the right personality type.
whole grain cereal has lots of nutrition and makes me feel full.
thank you danna! Resist that junk food!
i am going to need more focus on the behavior than the weight. I am eating carrots for lunch and then I am going to go to a great class I am taking, where I get busy and not hungry. My big challenges today will be not eating a free cookie when I stop at the grocery store and not snacking if I get home before dinner is ready.
also, I need to fit in at least 30 minutes of exercise.
And resisting the cookie, how can it be any good if it’s from the grocery store? Grocery store cookies are Crap and not worth the calories. That is what I tell myself. But I will admit sugar is not my downfall.
Teacher Terry
2-3-20, 2:29pm
Jane, it’s definitely preferable. It’s not like I am young:))
Ha--Don't rub it in...
But losing ten pounds a year is preferable to gaining, so...
Absolutely. Good for you!
When my son was getting married in 2015 DH and I managed to modify our diets to enable us to fit into our outfits (me: a dress with a belt around the waist; him: his kilt). We did it in 3-4 months. DH's HbA1c fell below his diabetic/pre-diabetic numbers. I lost almost 20 lbs.
Now my DD is getting married in about 8 months, and I'm back on the wagon. I signed up for a program that assigns you a "buddy" because I don't think my DH is as motivated as he was the last time. He's already upset that I told him I'm not interested in big plates of pasta for the time being.
I suspect combining IF with a stricter low-carb approach would be just the ticket. Or at least limiting myself to resistant starch. Experiment n=1 ongoing.
Good luck with your wedding project, Catherine.
I'm been trying to lose weight for 5 weeks now (am doing Noom) and have actually gained half a pound.
What are you looking for in an accountability partner, CL? How would that work?
Chicken lady
2-3-20, 8:27pm
Just somebody to check in with, to cheer and encourage and to whom to confess my “sins” if I have to.
I am hoping danna will cone back to tell me she resisted the junk food.
i did not eat the cookie (these grocery store cookies are good. They are free samples at the bakery counter.) I avoided the whole bakery area.
now I am typing this instead of sitting in the kitchen with dh eating nuts while ge finishes cooking. He said “dinner in 15” and I said “I’ll be right back.” I’m going to empty the dryer too.
i don’t think I’m going to get 30 minutes of exercise today.
Yes, I did resist the Junk Food and it is hard.
I volunteer in nursing home Tuck Shop for 3 hours a
couple of times a week.
I brought a good bowl of soup and a serving of yogurt
with frozen blueberries. Kept me full.
I did not do the walk but, did 20 minutes of
Richard Simmons dancing to the Oldies when I got home.
If I can keep the sugar and carbs low and have sensible portions.
A good amount of protein and vegetables.
I will lose. I believe adding enough fibre makes a big difference
in how you feel.
love the quote about fitness in the gym and weight loss in the kitchen.
iris lilies
2-3-20, 11:37pm
Just somebody to check in with, to cheer and encourage and to whom to confess my “sins” if I have to.
I am hoping danna will cone back to tell me she resisted the junk food.
i did not eat the cookie (these grocery store cookies are good. They are free samples at the bakery counter.) I avoided the whole bakery area.
now I am typing this instead of sitting in the kitchen with dh eating nuts while ge finishes cooking. He said “dinner in 15” and I said “I’ll be right back.” I’m going to empty the dryer too.
i don’t think I’m going to get 30 minutes of exercise today.
No! The entire a bakery department of the grocery store is drek! Dont dissuade me, I have managed to convince my little brain of that. Hahaha. But seriously, my grocery store’s bakery makes cookies with shortening not butter and they are awful. There is one kind that's not awful, and after I eat it I have lardy residue in my mouth, ick.
Now if I could convince my little brain that deli food is yuck...
Chicken lady
2-4-20, 6:29am
Iris lilies,
trust me, the deli is evil. Also the place you are 2nd most likely to get sick (salad bar is worse)
danna, good job resisting the junk food!
dh made a vegetable dish last night that was really good! It did have 2T of sugar in it, but some of that stayed in the sauce in the pan and I ate about 1/3 of the recipe. I also had a fat slice of rosemary bread, and blueberries for dessert.
Today I try again. One day at a time. I plan to start with hot cereal.
I usually swim with Dd on Tuesdays, but I might have to cancel today.
Teacher Terry
2-4-20, 1:30pm
It’s important to find something filling. If I eat the wrong thing then I will be hungry again in 2 hours. Both oatmeal and eggs keep me full for a long time. I don’t care for sweets but my downfall is salty snacks.
Okay, checking in. So far today I had half a cheese omelette and an Amy's burrito, which are my new favorite convenience food.
I am going to try eating three meals a day, no more than 300 calories a meal and see where that gets me.
It's hard to get much exercise here this time of year for me, as I can't walk outside in cold air. We've been mall walking and I am going to try to set up the exercise bike again--it was replaced by the Christmas tree, and it hurt my arthritic knees horribly, and the sheepdog dislikes anyone using it.
No more herding dogs for me.
Teacher Terry
2-4-20, 2:13pm
Tybee I am surprised you can tolerate him with your asthma. By the time Noki died I was using my rescue inhaler daily. Only poodles or Maltese now.
Exercise is a necessity especially as we get older. I’m doing the recumbent bike at the gym 3-4 days a week for at least 45 min. At least 10 miles (85-90 rpm is my sweet spot). Lift some light weights. Do an aqua aerobics class. Walk.
I can’t walk because of my knees/sciatica. So it’s the bike or the pool. The bike aggravates knees/sciatica the least.
I workout so I can do the diving I want to.
Need to eat better though. Working on that.
On the subject of diets and weight loss... I have tried WW 4 times, and it didn’t work for me at all, I gained weight and was stressed and grumpy, trying to follow plans and suggestions, while avoiding allergens. Plus there was just too much focus to processed foods for me.
Fast forward to just a little over a month ago. I stumbled into the practice of intermittent fasting while I was whiling away cold rainy days browsing online, snuggled with dogs on the couch in late December. I decided to give it a try, couldn’t hurt, and I really need to loose some weight. Got surprisingly positive results, the biggest — my craving for caffeine has completely disappeared!
Basically, every 3 or 4 days, I don’t eat from dinner until dinner the next day. Now I have moved my dinner from 6:30ish up to 5ish. In about 5.5 weeks, I’ve lost 14 lbs. plus I have plenty of energy and I’m feeling much better. The key for me is fasting on a day I will be busy. I’m saving time and money, and losing weight. I’m thrilled. Way better start to the new year than I could have planned.
iris lilies
2-4-20, 7:03pm
In Weight Watchers you can eat whatever you like, you just have to account for it. That is why
i like it.
But mschrisgo2 I agree that at their workshops (formerly called meetings) half of the discussions about foods center on processed foods. I found myself buying chicken and turkey sausage because they are low in points. And then, today, I thought—whyyyyyy? The chicken stuff is disgusting and is loaded with sodium. The turkey stuff is bland.
Instead of this junk I just need to cook up some ground turkey or chicken with onions and garlic.
But then my fellow WW attendees share tips about frozen grapes. Frozen banana. Tiny portions of frozen sugar-free/fat free pudding for a low cal bit of sweet. Etc. So those tips can be useful.
Mschris, congrats! I think fasting is a decent way to approach this for many people.
Chicken lady
2-4-20, 7:04pm
So Tybee, I’m confused - the bike hurts you but you’re going to ride it?
that is a tight calorie restriction, so I hope you will watch your nutrition!
danna, how was today?
i did yoga with dh, ate hot cereal with maple syrup (maybe a couple teaspoons?)
packed a banana and two 3” ciabatta rolls with butter and jam for lunch, and am now snacking on almonds.
dh won’t be home for dinner and I should just eat some food. Preferably vegetables. Maybe leftovers from last night.
I skipped swimming with Dd today for a couple of reasons.
Not going to do bike now because of pain. Have another machine I can try.
ETA: Actually, all exercise hurts me except aquacizing in therapy pool. Walking hurts and I am sob. Getting up in the morning hurts. I don't think I will ever not hurt again, so it's exercise hurt or give up, and I think that is worse.
I am of the suck it up school of living.
Sounds like there's lots of support here - there have been daily check-in type threads in the past for frugals, environmental choices, simple living choices, etc, where anyone can chime in.
I am currently about 7 pounds over my preferred weight... down from about 10 pounds over in early January. After seeing my MIL in the beginnings of dementia over the holidays, and realizing how stressful this is and will be to our family in many ways in the coming years, I decided to begin lifestyle changes now to do what I can to have my sunset years be healthier. I researched recent papers on diet and dementia and compiled a list for myself.
I have always loved baked goods... and I'm not forbidding them now, but thinking instead, "Is this what my brain wants?" And most of the time, it is not. In general, I'm being better at doing all the things I already knew I should -- and it's easier for me because I can feel a sharper brain and I'm not really focusing on weight loss. Because when it comes down to it, the cheesecake will win over weighing a pound less in a couple of weeks. So taking the focus off weight loss has helped me. And, as noted in a couple posts above, once I reduced the sugary foods, the cravings and my overall appetite dropped.
Most of the things that have been linked to improved brain aging are the same things that you read about for cardiac health, because it's all vascular health. Lots of vegetables, very limited processed carbs and saturated fats, whole grains ok within reason (but recommended amounts far less than USDA pyramid!), daily exercise (intense, moderate, and weight-bearing), flossing teeth, and SLEEP.
Have you tried focusing on anti-inflammatory foods to see if it helps the knee and hip pain?
Chicken lady
2-4-20, 9:36pm
I don’t know what anti-inflammatory foods are.
I am a vegetarian with infrequent pescatarian lapses of the Michael Pollan philosophy (eat real food, not too much, mostly plants)
my doctor thinks I should be eating more tuna and salmon.
anecdotal evidence gathered over years starting in high school says the pain is weight related.
Teacher Terry
2-4-20, 9:47pm
Rosemary, so sorry about your mom. Tybee, if you are only eating 900 calories a day that doesn’t sound like enough. You don’t want to lower your metabolism.
Chicken lady
2-5-20, 6:18am
I ate the leftover veggie dish for dinner last night. No dessert, no evening snacks. Still waking up with my coffee this morning.
I ate the leftover veggie dish for dinner last night. No dessert, no evening snacks. Still waking up with my coffee this morning.
Good job! Do you eat breakfast every day? Some people say that helps. My husband, who is naturally very thin and can eat anything, does not. Neither does my very thin friend.
Chicken lady
2-5-20, 7:54am
I used to skip breakfast a lot. Now I have to take meds on a full stomach twice a day. Which is probably part of my weight problem. I need to figure out how little food counts as a “full stomach”
in a hurry this morning, so I’m eating box cereal with goat milk. But also not packing lunch.
Rosemary I love the term "Sunset Years" makes them sound nice!
Chicken Lady I am here and doing well. Eating what I feel like but,
in smaller portions. Making sure I get in at least 1/2 cup of lentils or beans
a day. That seems to be what fulls me up.
I weighed in at my group last night and I was down 1/2 lb since last Tue
so that is slow but, if it was consistent every week it would sure add up.
Keep up the good work and I will be back later.
I did 11.2 miles in 47 min on the recumbent bike last night. Went Monday, too.
Good job! Do you eat breakfast every day? Some people say that helps. My husband, who is naturally very thin and can eat anything, does not. Neither does my very thin friend.
A lot of people do well not eating breakfast. I eat my meal nine-ish, generally.
Chicken lady
2-6-20, 6:35am
Yay danna! Half a pound a week is 26lbs in a year!
Tradd, good for you for exercising!
I did not exercise again yesterday. I am seasonal, and there is no sunlight - days in a row of heavy overcast and rain, and I know exercise would help, but it is an uphill battle. It feels like it helps so much less than the energy required.
yesterday I grabbed a banana for lunch. Then I had almonds for my after school snack, and dh brought me a small Mediterranean salad for dinner. But I also ate a candy bar. I just really wanted the quick chocolate/sugar lift.
today I will try again.
I hear you on the exercise. I am so light deprived right now, which gets me depressed, plus the cold air outside brings on an asthma attack.
I am thinking I need to try something different--6 weeks on Noom and I weigh the same as when I started, and I'm frustrated. I don't think this 3 meal a day thing is working for me.
When I went to Dr. Mercola, 17 years ago, they said I had a really really slow metabolism then.
And that was 17 years ago. Maybe the intermittent fasting. But I HATE being hungry.
Chicken lady
2-6-20, 7:24am
Tybee, I have never lost weight without being hungry. I’m pretty sure that your body sends you hunger signals as soon as it starts burning fat. I’m guessing the ability to tolerate hunger is the biggest key to weight loss. Maybe you could lie to your body by filling your stomach with something super low calorie.
CL, I bet you are right about hunger signals starting as soon as it starts burning fat. Hmm.
"Maybe you could lie to your body by filling your stomach with something super low calorie."
That is a good suggestion!
On the subject of diets and weight loss... I have tried WW 4 times, and it didn’t work for me at all, I gained weight and was stressed and grumpy, trying to follow plans and suggestions, while avoiding allergens. Plus there was just too much focus to processed foods for me.
Fast forward to just a little over a month ago. I stumbled into the practice of intermittent fasting while I was whiling away cold rainy days browsing online, snuggled with dogs on the couch in late December. I decided to give it a try, couldn’t hurt, and I really need to loose some weight. Got surprisingly positive results, the biggest — my craving for caffeine has completely disappeared!
Basically, every 3 or 4 days, I don’t eat from dinner until dinner the next day. Now I have moved my dinner from 6:30ish up to 5ish. In about 5.5 weeks, I’ve lost 14 lbs. plus I have plenty of energy and I’m feeling much better. The key for me is fasting on a day I will be busy. I’m saving time and money, and losing weight. I’m thrilled. Way better start to the new year than I could have planned.
Amazing how well it works. I originally addressed hunger by eating low carb, which reduces insulin output and allows you to switch easily to fat-burning, and then segued into IF, which allows more food flexibility while providing similar benefits. I love that it's a money and time saver, as well as boosting autophagy, and I also like that it doesn't require following a lot of rules. I generally fast 20 hours or so a day, but sometimes do an extended fast. This seems very natural, and doesn't make me feel like I'm being punished, as reducing diets always have.
I am doing pretty good during my week that K. is gone. Yesterday on errand day I ate the apple I brought while sitting in traffic (a lot of times I bring apples places but don't end up eating them as a "whole" thing - at home I prefer to cut them into slices) but it was good and it hit the spot. I also had some leftover salad sitting in the car after another errand. All in all, I did not buy any snacks during "town" day even though I was at the grocery store. I bought a lot of vegetables, then went home and made a quasi vegetarian chili and used up a lot of bits and pieces that needed to leave the fridge. This is totally an old SiouxzQ. way of cooking. Now I have leftovers for three days, and a bunch of plain yogurt to snack on, homemade hummus to make (now that I found a grocery store that actually sells tahini - when I lived in Michigan there was a Middle-Eastern grocery store every few miles, so it was easy. Not so much out here in the desert)!
I just had a bowl of oatmeal, blueberries, a few raisins and walnuts, plus a dash of peanut butter and cinnamon, and to top it off, a splash of almond milk. I dare not count the calories in that but it keeps me going for a long time.
Remember, each day a new beginning!
Any effort is a good effort! I would imagine that living a good distance from more abundant food choices would complicate matters. It was one of the primary reasons we retired to a big city as trying new food and cooking is one of our favorite pastimes.
I want to be the way I used to be, definitely used to be eat to live like Catherine said. All this diet talk and the Noom app making me obsessed with food and eating more, I think.
I never want to "eat to live." I still have taste buds, and I'm gonna use 'em.
ApatheticNoMore
2-6-20, 12:59pm
I want to be the way I used to be, definitely used to be eat to live like Catherine said. All this diet talk and the Noom app making me obsessed with food and eating more, I think.
I don't always eat to live, I eat emotionally sometimes, I like the food I make, but there is nothing unhealthy about liking the taste of food uh.
But that's what diet talk does for me absolutely, thinking about weight is actually a trigger for eating more (and no not out of hunger or anything, an emotional trigger). So mostly I avoid it, and this thread for the most part, other people can do what they will and maybe it works for them, but I know that's a fast path to really self-destructive thinking for me, and most ironically of all, to further levels of self-destructive eating as well. It has a certain amount of temptation I guess, oh I'm going to go on the blah de blah diet, but it just leads nowhere good.
It helps that my weight is ok from a health perspective, not considered overweight, doctors are not on my case, but it doesn't mean I look like a movie actress, an idealized image, have no extra fat, no cellulite. Pfft please. I'm not that fit, I'm not that disciplined, I have some fat already. But only a few behaviors are actually unhealthy, emotional eating, and restaurant eating maybe ha - that's what I think I do that is unhealthy. Oh and a few foods just are triggers. Everything else, eh obsessing on it just leads down down down ...
Teacher Terry
2-6-20, 1:07pm
If I am hungry and have used all my calories I eat a bowl of lettuce with croutons and lemon on it. It’s filling with hardly no calories.
I don't always eat to live, I eat emotionally sometimes, I like the food I make, but there is nothing unhealthy about liking the taste of food uh.
But that's what diet talk does for me absolutely, thinking about weight is actually a trigger for eating more (and no not out of hunger or anything, an emotional trigger). So mostly I avoid it, and this thread for the most part, o ...
I think yours is an eminently healthy approach. Dieting is a modern anomaly, and talking about it can be triggering or deadly dull, depending.
Chicken lady
2-6-20, 10:19pm
If I felt good, I wouldn’t care about my weight. I’d care a little, but, for example, I do not have good hair. It is scraggly - different amounts of curl in the grey and brown and it won’t stay braided or pulled up, and the goats are always taking bites out of it. It rarely looks attractive. But it is functional. I can pull it back and get on with my life. I do not waste time or energy trying to fix it with styling and color or fancy cuts or whatever. It is hair. I can make it look attractive enough for limited times when needed. Visually, my aging body is compatible with my hair. But the weight of my body is imparting it’s functionality. So, that is partly why I’m trying to focus on changing my habits. I figure better eating and exercise should make it work better even if it doesn’t look better.
Hot cereal with honey and grapefruit for breakfast. Banana and thick slice of rosemary bread for lunch. One cookie after school. Lentils with peppers over rice for dinner. Blueberries for dessert. Did yoga this morning.
If I felt good, I wouldn’t care about my weight. I’d care a little, but, for example, I do not have good hair. It is scraggly - different amounts of curl in the grey and brown and it won’t stay braided or pulled up, and the goats are always taking bites out of it. It rarely looks attractive. But it is functional. I can pull it back and get on with my life. I do not waste time or energy trying to fix it with styling and color or fancy cuts or whatever. It is hair. I can make it look attractive enough for limited times when needed. Visually, my aging body is compatible with my hair. But the weight of my body is imparting it’s functionality. So, that is partly why I’m trying to focus on changing my habits. I figure better eating and exercise should make it work better even if it doesn’t look better.
Hot cereal with honey and grapefruit for breakfast. Banana and thick slice of rosemary bread for lunch. One cookie after school. Lentils with peppers over rice for dinner. Blueberries for dessert. Did yoga this morning.
I think that's about where I am at-- I need to lose weight to feel better, it's pretty basic. I think your food yesterday sounds delicious. I do agree with Jane that it's not just calories in/calories burned. Something else is going on in my case, as 6 weeks on Noom tracking has produced a one pound gain.
Ordered Marcelle Pick's book, will report back on it.
Make sure you’re aware of the calorie content of that whole-grain cereal. Look I don’t eat it so I don’t know, but I did learn at weight watchers at oatmeal has a ton of points. That surprised me because oatmeal is disgusting to me why would anyone eat it? Eggs have only 2 weight watchers points. I love eggs.
Right? Peanut M&Ms have a lower glycemic index than a bowl of oatmeal. It's crazy where nutritional factors are present and calories are hidden!
CL, protein first. Fat helps keep you full longer. If my recall is accurate, you are vegetarian so challenges are in abundance for you.
Fruit and veg and certainly healthy intake but they don't keep you full long and fruit is high sugar so demands insulin. It is the insulin swings that are hardest to manage.
Hubster and I are trying Code Red right now and committed to March 1. 4weeks in, I've lost 11# and hubster 10#. We eat animal protein so satiety is working for us. (and yes, we've cheated plenty).
What works best is the lifestyle plan you will stick to! Best of luck to you!
iris lilies
2-7-20, 10:56am
There is a lovely couple in my WW workshop who are not overweight to my eyes. They are new to WW having tried several “get healthy” efforts. They are learning a lot,they say, about caloric content and portion control and etc. But she is not losing weight and it is disappointing to her. Her husband has dropped some lbs.
Personally, I think she is probably at nature’s target weight and will struggle mightily to lose more. So it is REALLY hard to lose a few lbs when you are close to nature’s set point.
There is a lovely couple in my WW workshop who are not overweight to my eyes. They are new to WW having tried several “get healthy” efforts. They are learning a lot,they say, about caloric content and portion control and etc. But she is not losing weight and it is disappointing to her. Her husband has dropped some lbs.
Personally, I think she is probably at nature’s target weight and will struggle mightily to lose more. So it is REALLY hard to lose a few lbs when you are close to nature’s set point.
WW also sets some achievable weight goals for people. I guess that keeps people paying their fees. I wore a size 8 wedding dress at 148# when they wanted me to weigh 122. Now at age 58, they want me 53 pounds lower than my realistically sustainable weight. I laughed out loud!
The education on nutrition and calories is invaluable-on that I agree. My sisters have both maintained their goals on the 33 points so they are happy.
Again, the lifestyle plan we stick to is the best one for each of us!
iris lilies
2-7-20, 11:35am
WW also sets some achievable weight goals for people. I guess that keeps people paying their fees. I wore a size 8 wedding dress at 148# when they wanted me to weigh 122. Now at age 58, they want me 53 pounds lower than my realistically sustainable weight. I laughed out loud!
The education on nutrition and calories is invaluable-on that I agree. My sisters have both maintained their goals on the 33 points so they are happy.
Again, the lifestyle plan we stick to is the best one for each of us!
There is a range of acceptable weight in WW for each person based on age and height. The top of the WW goal was consistent with what my dr expected of me years ago.
But in the end, you are right that WW is a commercial operation and expects to make money. Participants should never forget that. i used to suspect the American Dairy Association was a contributor to WW because WW was so clear on eating dairy every day (unless one was allergic to it.)
And you are right there is no ONE program that works for everyone. I just wonder how many people (not those here) are vanity losers after menopause. The lovely woman in my WW workshop may have weight around her tummy that I cant see i. Our winter togs, but she looks to be at goal weight to me.
Chicken lady
2-7-20, 11:44am
The “ideal weight” for my height and gender is five pounds more than the weight I “achieved” after a severe illness when I looked gaunt and was too weak to boost myself onto a waist high wall using my arms. The BMI calculation for that post illness weight is still 2 points inside my “healthy” range.
I want my knees to not hurt.
and I want the mass of my body to not interfere with my range of motion.
and yes, I’m a vegetarian. And I could probably live contentedly on “zero points” if somebody kept a spread of fresh fruits and veggies in front of me - while getting fat on fruit sugar.
i struggle to eat protein because beans have to be cooked, and everything else I like that is protein has a lot of fat (nuts, cheese, whole milk, whole eggs) I try to eat whole grains because they have low fat protein.
i struggle to eat protein because beans have to be cooked, and everything else I like that is protein has a lot of fat (nuts, cheese, whole milk, whole eggs) I try to eat whole grains because they have low fat protein.
An egg has 6g protein while a white has 3.6
I would suggest that your daily first meal is: 2 eggs and 2 egg whites in an omelette with 1 ounce cheese and sauted veggies. It's a great filling start to your day with a balance of nutrition.
There are days that I'm never hungry again.
I will cook a pot of black beans and freeze 2c portions. 14g protein per cup. Mix with 2 ounces shredded cheddar and 3/4c of my canned salsa and I've got 2 healthy meals.
We do eat meat so I'll add 6ounce ground beef or turkey to the above and it's dinner for 2. You could sub quinoa for 9g protein per cup.
And do eat 1 ounce nuts daily.
I know we're all told to cut fat. But truly, it's what fills us up for a longer time and keeps that satiety high.
The biggest change for me since retiring? I do NOT eat until I'm truly hungry. Some days that is 0800 and some days it is 2PM. I don't think I've had a 3meal day even once.
I'm with ya'll and have plenty of weight to lose! I'm focused on all my behaviors where food is concerned. I have much unlearning to accomplish!
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I know we're all told to cut fat. But truly, it's what fills us up for a longer time and keeps that satiety high.
I don't know why the anti-fat thing doesn't seem to die--even the nutrition establishment recently, reluctantly says it's neutral, doesn't cause disease, etc.--since our nervous system is made up largely of saturated fat, and having "elevated" cholesterol is protective as we age. Nutrition is a "science" mostly driven by the marketing of processed foods; you have to look beyond "conventional wisdom," which mostly isn't very wise. Physiologically, the two essential macronutrients are protein and fat. Coincidentally, those were the two macronutrients readily available to hunter-gatherers during long winters. Fruits were small, not particularly sweet, and only available for short periods. Vegetables were generally not available in winter. Now, for some reason, we're all supposed to eat piles of what a friend called "mulch" to be healthy. And don't get me started on the farming methods necessary...
Chicken lady
2-7-20, 12:21pm
I’ve been working with dh to try to have things like quinoa and barley instead of rice or pasta. (He has taken over all the cooking)
i am just not going to make that omelet. It is too much work. I really hate cooking. When I say “I had carrots” I mean, I literally peeled and ate some carrots.
making the hot cereal instead of pouring milk on something from a box or eating bread (I’m often too lazy to toast it) is an accomplishment for me in the morning. I do better with lunches, but often I am not home for lunch (so, bread and a banana) or busy and skip it.
i used to periodically boil a pot of eggs and then eat them later, but I decided it was probably better to skip the fat in the egg.
my cereal has 6g of protein and one gram of unsaturated fat. The egg has 5g of fat and one egg doesn’t make me feel full.
iris lilies
2-7-20, 12:25pm
Like all things in life, moderation is key. Some fats in our diets are fine and necessary.Eating all of the fat I would like to eat is NOT a healthy diet, I do not exercise it off. I do not live an Inuit lifestyle.
DH has a high BMI by current measures. He is on the short side, has heavy bones and big shoulders. And frankly during the winter he carries excess lbs.
But his dr is happy with his numbers, good BP and cholesterol and resting pulse rate. He had the required colon/rectal exam.ps. DH always brags when he returns from the dr appts. Annoying! :~)
Chicken lady
2-7-20, 12:25pm
Jane, I’m never going to tell you what you should eat.
I’m fine with fat, I’m fine with carbs, I’m just not a fan of highly processed and refined anything.
and I do think fat and sugar make me gain weight. So I try to piggy back less of them when I can. Because for me, lean meat is not an option. And I like my dairy products whole. I’d rather have my fat there.
Jane, I’m never going to tell you what you should eat.
I’m fine with fat, I’m fine with carbs, I’m just not a fan of highly processed and refined anything.
and I do think fat and sugar make me gain weight. So I try to piggy back less of them when I can. Because for me, lean meat is not an option. And I like my dairy products whole. I’d rather have my fat there.
I was making a comment on the state of nutrition information in the media, and responding to Gardnr's post.
I didn't think for a minute you were telling me what to eat. I'm sorry you got that impression.
Chicken lady
2-8-20, 8:49am
I had a snow day yesterday. I didn’t keep track of my eating, but I mostly grazed all day. Small amounts of lots of things, good and bad. Dh made dinner with veggies and black bean/sesame pasta (marketed for the gluten free, but bought by me for the high protein to carb and fat balance). I didn’t exercise yesterday, but I got plenty of sleep last night.
I woke up hungry this morning and am trying to resist eating until I figure out if we’ll be able to make it out in the snow to have my favorite Saturday pancakes (also a high protein blend) and the farmer’s market cafe. We haven’t been able to go for weeks.
tybee and danna, how are you doing?
I’m not sure if anybody else is looking for a support group, so apologies if I’m leaving you out. My impression of the other posts is people throwing out ideas for us.
I had a snow day yesterday. I didn’t keep track of my eating, but I mostly grazed all day. Small amounts of lots of things, good and bad. Dh made dinner with veggies and black bean/sesame pasta (marketed for the gluten free, but bought by me for the high protein to carb and fat balance). I didn’t exercise yesterday, but I got plenty of sleep last night.
I woke up hungry this morning and am trying to resist eating until I figure out if we’ll be able to make it out in the snow to have my favorite Saturday pancakes (also a high protein blend) and the farmer’s market cafe. We haven’t been able to go for weeks.
tybee and danna, how are you doing?
I’m not sure if anybody else is looking for a support group, so apologies if I’m leaving you out. My impression of the other posts is people throwing out ideas for us.
Thanks for checking in, CL! I am doing lousy, actually, real frustrated. Six weeks on Noom and I have gained two pounds. I think I need to stop it and do something else. I did order Marcelle Pick's book. I looked up Code Red diet after reading Gardnr's post.
This morning I started keeping a notebook. The one thing good about Noom is it forces you to weigh daily, and you record what you ate. The coaching is not working for me, and I do think I need to stop it, as part of this process for me is to figure out something that works and then stick with it. After 6 weeks, that's a pretty good indicator that it doesn't work, so I need to just step up to plate and cancel it.
Chicken lady
2-8-20, 10:08am
Tybee, it’s good to know when something is not working.
a thought on weighing - my weight tends to fluctuate a couple of pounds from day to day. I do weigh myself daily, but more to keep an eye on trending. I try to pick a day of the week and call that number my baseline for the week. As long as the daily numbers are no more than a pound or two above that base with variation in both directions, I don’t pay much attention. The week-to-week totals are more important.
if your eating/hydration/activity levels fluctuate a lot from day to day, you can see changes that seem significant, but are really just “noise”
another thing I never do is weigh myself the morning after a restaurant meal. I know the meal will have a lot more salt than I am used to and I will have consumed a lot more water and retained more of it and my weight will be up a couple of pounds.
paying attention to what your are eating us hood. I would suggest when and why as well.
dh has agreed to add the new pasta into the meal rotation.
I mostly stayed on track this week for food and exercise... DD made a batch of cookies and I ate more than I would have liked. But, on to this new day, when I will go walk with a friend in a park where swans visit year-round.
I eat a mostly vegetarian diet, too (fish about once/week). Some of the easy things I prepare are
roasted tofu - in cubes - easy to toss into meals such as salads or bowls - I bake 2 pounds at a time and store in the fridge
all sorts of bean dishes - made in large quantities. Some favorites are Indian dishes such as rajma or chole, chili with lots of vegetables, black beans, etc. soups = also made in large quantities. I freeze extra of the soup and bean dishes in quart-sized mason jars. When a busy week comes up, we can go without any real cooking pretty easily.
As for eggs, frittatas are super easy and good for multiple meals (also a good way to use up random cooked vegetables). I bake mine in a pie dish rather than following the fussy method in most recipes. With potatoes or leftover grains and a lot of veggies, one serving is about one egg and maybe a little cheese.
For breakfast -- plain yogurt with frozen blueberries and flax meal - I prep in pint-sized mason jars for a few days at a time. This is my favorite no-cook meal. Also, any dinner leftovers are an easy breakfast. My family doesn't like leftover stir-fry, but I think it's quite good cold for breakfast.
I have lost 12 pounds. Part of my journey is nailing down all my eating problems some of which I know and others for which I am total denial (cuz then it would my fault right?)
1. I do NOT eat until I am hungry.
2. Once I sense hunger, I decide what to eat and do eat within the hour to prevent becoming REALLY hungry. Think of hunger as a 1-10 scale. Eat before 8!
3. I am currently doing Code Red-intensely keto not to exceed 25g carbs/day.
4. Put my fork down after every bite to slow myself down.
5. Listen to my satiety point. Am I really hungry? Do I need to finish my plate? Do I really need more food or do I just want it because it is so good?
Hubster found this recipe and asked me to make it for dinner last night. OMG it was sooooo good! I used ground beef/turkey mix and added diced bell peppers/mushroom. https://dot2trot.com/low-carb-bacon-cheeseburger-casserole/
He asked for this for the coming week's work breakfasts: https://ketokarma.com/breakfastbake/ I cooked enough pepper/mushroom to toss some here too.
I'm not a believer in gluten-free for non celiacs so this will NOT be a lifestyle for us. My current plan is 1 "cheat meal" weekly moving forward. We love pasta and bread. We just need to not do it 7d/week!!!
I need to NOT stop at the bakery 2m from our home-they make killer huge chocolate chip cookies. Bad for both of us.
The other thing I notice is that it's easy to keep on going eating white flour/sugar foods even when homemade. We need to have a portion and stop-not pile them on.
I truly think our solutions come when we identify our food issues.
Yup, I'm using this platform as a counseling session. At least ya'll don't have my address to send me a bill:~)
Edited to add: It is my intention to be wearing my goal size jeans (which I still own) by mid July!!!! That means another 51 pounds:treadmill:
Chicken lady
2-8-20, 12:31pm
Gardner, that was kind of what I had in mind for this thread.
51lbs in 5 months seems like an awful lot. Especially at the end - the percentage loss to body mass gets higher with each pound.
Rosemary, how were the swans? Did you enjoy your walk?
i got my pancakes. We went so late I will probably skip lunch. Maybe have a grapefruit or some carrots. Especially since dh plans for us to eat out tonight. I may also have a glass of wine.
51 pounds in 5 months sounds really difficult. I have at least that to lose and in a month and a half on this stupid noom thing have gained two pounds.
I like to hear what is working for people. I think I can motivate myself to do something as long as it is actually working for me.
Right now, I'm lost, don't know what is working.
Teacher Terry
2-8-20, 1:11pm
I do think 51 lbs in 5 months is too ambitious. It took me a year to shed 40 but I am 8 years older than you which probably slowed my weight loss down. It really does come down to finding what works for you personally. My best friend uses WW while I count calories. Tybee, it appears that noom is not working. Losing weight is hard and I wish everyone the best.
51 pounds in 5 months sounds really difficult. I have at least that to lose and in a month and a half on this stupid noom thing have gained two pounds.
I like to hear what is working for people. I think I can motivate myself to do something as long as it is actually working for me.
Right now, I'm lost, don't know what is working.
12.5# in 4 weeks. So I am a believer in Code Red. And yes, I've had some cookies, some tortilla chips, and 4 cocktails w/GF Monday over a 4h lunch! I bet I would be on my way to 20# had I not cheated.
I do think 51 lbs in 5 months is too ambitious. It took me a year to shed 40 but I am 8 years older than you which probably slowed my weight loss down. It really does come down to finding what works for you personally. My best friend uses WW while I count calories. Tybee, it appears that noom is not working. Losing weight is hard and I wish everyone the best.
It is ambitious to be certain. I need that goal in front of me to keep me doing this though. It is HARD to say no to food I love. This fast kickstart is a good motivator!
Hi Chicken Lady and everyone
I am eating well made a large bean salad so it is easy
to get in my 1/2 of beans a day, that and oatmeal
with 1 tsp chia seeds, and 1 tsp of ground flak seed are
working (pun intended) to keep the bowels moving!
This an ongoing problem in my life and as every dr as
told me the answer is more fibre and water.
Of course they are right and i feel full.
Received some wonderful David's Tea for Christmas and I
have been having a very large cup of something different
each afternoon about 3:00, helps to get me past
that afternoon urge for a treat.
I am using Tue nights as my weigh in so will let you know.
Also, trying to do 15 min of Richard Simmons and 15 mins
of a walking tape each day.
Chicken lady
2-10-20, 6:24am
Tybee, do you have any thoughts on what to do next?
danna, that sounds like a great plan.
i “fell off the wagon” this weekend. Enjoyed the restaurant meal and the wine, but then had trouble dialing it back yesterday. I was home all day and indulged in too many treats. Also did not exercise. But, today I go again.
i have lost one pound, which is probably just noise.
Tybee, do you have any thoughts on what to do next?
danna, that sounds like a great plan.
i “fell off the wagon” this weekend. Enjoyed the restaurant meal and the wine, but then had trouble dialing it back yesterday. I was home all day and indulged in too many treats. Also did not exercise. But, today I go again.
i have lost one pound, which is probably just noise.
I am going to try limiting carbohydrates a lot more. Ordered a keto program that gives you a month of menus and guidelines. It does not look very appealing, but maybe that is the point.
I am committed to getting on the scale every single day. Why you might ask? Well, I didn't have one for the decades I gained a ton of weight. And unbeknownst to me, lycra appeared in clothes. One day I went to buy a new pair of jeans as my current ones were about to rip a hole. I had to go up 2 sizes?!!!! I wore scrubs for a living and we all wear them big so I truly had no idea I had put on so much weight.
If I go up a pound, I know what I did the day before to cause that. My scale gives 1/2# increments.
The other thing I'll be doing is getting rid of the biggest clothes the 2nd I can fit in the next size down. Yes, of course I have all the clothes "I will get back into someday". I will need nothing new. I am retired and don't need much anyway! I will say, I have a few 2X sweatshirts that I love. I'll be keeping them!
I am committed to weighing every day, too, Gardnr. I did exactly the same thing--did not weigh for years, and now I have to figure out how to correct this situation.
If I do nothing else, I am writing down what I weigh every day and also what I eat, so I can figure out the correlation.
I am going to try limiting carbohydrates a lot more. Ordered a keto program that gives you a month of menus and guidelines. It does not look very appealing, but maybe that is the point.
Look into www.twosleevers.com, Urvashi Pitre's recipes and cookbooks. She provides lots of easy to moderate internationally inspired recipes, many keto-friendly. She also has YouTube videos.
Look into www.twosleevers.com (http://www.twosleevers.com), Urvashi Pitre's recipes and cookbooks. She provides lots of easy to moderate internationally inspired recipes, many keto-friendly. She also has YouTube videos.
Thanks, Jane, will do.
Okay, just found this promising recipe for a breakfast that I would like and can freeze:
https://thegirlonbloor.com/wprm_print/27355
A friend of mine made keto friendly egg bites in her IP. She tweaked a recipe, of which there are many to Google. Her recipe:
4 eggs
¼ cup cottage cheese
¼ cup half n’ half or HWC
¼ cup creamy cheese such as Brie, cream cheese, Laughing Cow or Boursin
Salt
Mushroom powder (see Nom Nom Paleo)
Cayenne (or any spice of choice!)
Whiz in blender
I stirred in cooked shallot, raw green onion, shredded hard cheese and cooked bacon.
Pour into molds
Add one cup of water to IP
I put foil “extenders” onto the IP rack handles. I lowered the eggs and rack down on top of the water.
Cover the mold with a foil tent or parchment paper so the steam doesn’t drip and make the eggs slimy
OH! The eggs rise quite a bit! I laid the parchment gently on top.
Set on steam for 9 minutes
Let that rest for 10 minutes. Steam release just in case.
.
A friend of mine made keto friendly egg bites in her IP. She tweaked a recipe, of which there are many to Google. Her recipe:
4 eggs
¼ cup cottage cheese
¼ cup half n’ half or HWC
¼ cup creamy cheese such as Brie, cream cheese, Laughing Cow or Boursin
Salt
Mushroom powder (see Nom Nom Paleo)
Cayenne (or any spice of choice!)
Whiz in blender
I stirred in cooked shallot, raw green onion, shredded hard cheese and cooked bacon.
Pour into molds
Add one cup of water to IP
I put foil “extenders” onto the IP rack handles. I lowered the eggs and rack down on top of the water.
Cover the mold with a foil tent or parchment paper so the steam doesn’t drip and make the eggs slimy
OH! The eggs rise quite a bit! I laid the parchment gently on top.
Set on steam for 9 minutes
Let that rest for 10 minutes. Steam release just in case.
.
thank you, will try this!
I am committed to weighing every day, too, Gardnr. I did exactly the same thing--did not weigh for years, and now I have to figure out how to correct this situation.
If I do nothing else, I am writing down what I weigh every day and also what I eat, so I can figure out the correlation.
I was same today-I don't usually go a day without at least 1/2# change. But that's OK. Same is still positive!
I just spent 5 minutes in my closet. I separated the pants I am willing to wear outside the front door right now-there are more than I expected so that's a change. I apparently have 3 pr that are midway my current and next size down as I couldn't wear them 6m ago! I tried on the 3 in the next size smaller. I cannot zip any of them. I've designated 1 nice pair to try on every single Monday until I can zip, and then until I will wear it outside the front door. Once I can wear those 3 outside, I will get rid of all the current size. There will be no "fall back". I have a friend who will benefit greatly from free clothes. We were the same size when I retired.
I also have 4 pr fleece pants I can wear now. I'll wash those and put them in circulation. I've been wearing the same 3 for many many years. I don't know if I should be happy or sad that fleece pants can last more than 10yrs being washed weekly!???
And so it goes.
Okay, just found this promising recipe for a breakfast that I would like and can freeze:
https://thegirlonbloor.com/wprm_print/27355
Tybee, you really need some of the egg yolk fat and nutrients. At least do 1/2 the yolks. Also, consider regular bacon cooked crispy (or 1/2?). It is fat in foods that fill us up and keep us full.
For decades, I've consistently tried to avoid fat regularly. And hey, we're fat! I've added fat into our diets and we're doing better with satiety and we're losing weight.
I joined Weight Watchers online today for 3 months. We’ll see how it goes.
iris lilies
2-10-20, 2:40pm
I joined Weight Watchers online today for 3 months. We’ll see how it goes.
I have not done online, I do “in person” membership. Mainly I do that because i want access to high quality, regularly calibrated scales. I like the accountability of checking in with an objective person weekly.
The workshops themselves are ok, sometimes great, sometimes enh.
But you (we) can always join the discussion forums at ww for input of other people.
I have not done online, I do “in person” membership. Mainly I do that because i want access to high quality, regularly calibrated scales. I like the accountability of checking in with an objective person weekly.
The workshops themselves are ok, sometimes great, sometimes enh.
But you (we) can always join the discussion forums at ww for input of other people.
I don’t have time to go in person. I actually don’t weigh myself at all except when I go to the doc once or twice a year.
Chicken lady
2-11-20, 6:20am
Gsrdnr,
it sounds like you are making really good progress. That is a great plan about trying on the pants.
yesterday I did yoga with dh, made good food choices (except for a donut shared with me by a classmate) and did some large scale handbuilding (clay) at my class that according to my muscles this morning was a bit of an upper body workout.
the last one comes under both “reasons I need to exercise” and ”(fun and productive) activity I should do more often because it is exercise.”
Gsrdnr,
it sounds like you are making really good progress. That is a great plan about trying on the pants.
yesterday I did yoga with dh, made good food choices (except for a donut shared with me by a classmate) and did some large scale handbuilding (clay) at my class that according to my muscles this morning was a bit of an upper body workout.
the last one comes under both “reasons I need to exercise” and ”(fun and productive) activity I should do more often because it is exercise.”
CL, that kind of exercise sounds wonderful--the fun and productive part. It's cool that you and your DH do yoga. We drove to mall and I mall walked while he sat in the car--his arthritic hip is really bothering him.
My Marcelle Pick book arrived and it is fascinating, and supports a lot of things I have been thinking about weight loss. The diet itself is pretty much a Mediterranean diet.
Tybee, you really need some of the egg yolk fat and nutrients. At least do 1/2 the yolks. Also, consider regular bacon cooked crispy (or 1/2?). It is fat in foods that fill us up and keep us full.
For decades, I've consistently tried to avoid fat regularly. And hey, we're fat! I've added fat into our diets and we're doing better with satiety and we're losing weight.
That is wonderful to hear, and kind of the tact I am trying. I will absolutely use whole eggs--I'm too frugal to do an egg white only thing, haha. We use turkey bacon because my husband is so allergic to pork, and I don't keep pork or beef or lamb in the house, to avoid accidents.
Chicken lady
2-11-20, 9:58pm
Today I started with yoga, had healthy cereal and a grapefruit for breakfast, nuts, a banana and three small cookies (a gift from the cooking class) during the day, swam, beans and rice for dinner, and sugar cereal for dessert.
didn’t sleep well last night, so I’m planning to go to bed early soon.
rosarugosa
2-11-20, 10:02pm
CL: Do you do yoga in a class or on your own?
PS: Your idea of going to bed early is my idea of going to bed late. Tonight is my late night due to carpentry class. :)
Teacher Terry
2-11-20, 10:22pm
What has always worked for me is counting my calories including weighing and measuring everything. It forces me to make wise decisions or suffer the consequences.
Chicken lady
2-12-20, 6:20am
We do yoga at home together with a tape. (Ok, it’s not actually a “tape” but I am old and do not know what to call it when it comes out if a computer. Yesterday I said “going steady” and my kids all laughed. Then I said “Facebook official” and they very gently tried to teach me something about emojis that I completely did not understand. I’m sticking with “tape”)
this morning I am sore from swimming. Mostly in the neck and shoulders. Probably because I skipped a week.
rosa, what is “early” for you? I am usually in bed around 9:30, ten is late, nine is early. Up at 5.
rosarugosa
2-12-20, 6:41am
CL: I had tried a class but didn't stick with it, but I think I could like yoga under the right circumstances. I just need to figure out what they are.
We are usually in bed before 9 and up at 5. Carpentry class nights we don't get to bed until 10:00, which feels really late. It's worth it though because I love carpentry class.
Good morning
Yeah I weighed in on Tues night Down 1 more lb
Total 1.5 lbs
I came across in my purging of paper a magazine article "Women's Day 1978"
It was called "Using Housework for Heart health"
Basically doing 5 min slow 20 min fast and 5 min slow
Was down one pound but went out to dinner last night with husband and husband;s brother and this morning, am back up to where I started 7 weeks ago.
(But I had actually gained on Noom, so being back to square one not so bad.)
My plan is to lose 2 lbs by March 1, using low carb eating.
14 pounds as of this morning. :cool:
Teacher Terry
2-13-20, 1:54pm
Being sick started my weight loss and now I am still losing weight so down 8 pounds.
Being sick started my weight loss and now I am still losing weight so down 8 pounds.
Remind me again if you are on a specific diet or was it just portion control and didn't you say you were eating 2 meals a day?
(I'm obviously looking to pattern on someone else's success, since Noom is not working for me.)
Teacher Terry
2-13-20, 2:37pm
Tybee, I eat a yogurt for breakfast. If I eat a big lunch then I am done. If it’s a small lunch then I have a small dinner. I count calories.
Tybee, if you don't mind saying, what was it about Noom that didn't work for you?
iris lilies
2-13-20, 5:39pm
Tybee,
Are you in one of the three categories of Overweightness on this chart? I ask because if you are or at least are not, or are in the low end of overweight, you may need Herculean effort of lose lbz.
Three months on any weight loss program —like your Noom experience—should have yielded some results, unless you are at nature’s set point.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323446#body-mass-index
Those BMI charts are basically crap. My husband is considered obese. Yet he has no body fat as he is solid muscle. He has a wrestler's or weight lifter's body.
Tybee, I eat a yogurt for breakfast. If I eat a big lunch then I am done. If it’s a small lunch then I have a small dinner. I count calories.
Thanks, I think the two meals a day might be part of the answer for me. Noom had me on 3 and I think I was actually eating more. I don't know why it did not work but that is one possibility.
iris lilies
2-13-20, 7:22pm
Those BMI charts are basically crap. My husband is considered obese. Yet he has no body fat as he is solid muscle. He has a wrestler's or weight lifter's body.
scroll down to get to weight chart.m
agreed, bone size and muscle are key factors, , but that’s why there is a weight range. My DH always reads as overweight too. And usually outside of winter weight he is ok.But that is BMI which you can ignore, and anyway, Is it true that BMI is correctly weighed in water anyway?
What I’m trying to get at is this: is Tybee going after a vanity weight?
Tybee, It's really important that you eat well and you eat enough. No way would I make it through a day with just a yogurt in the morning. Some days I'm hungry a few hours after eating. I notice this happens the day before I'm down 1-2#. Today is one of those days.
Around 1030 I made an omelette: 2 eggs, 2 egg whites, 1 oz shredded cheddar and 2 oz diced ham. At 245 I had 2 Tbsp nuts: mix of pistachio, almonds, sunflower seeds. Dinner will be mashed cauliflower, brussel sprouts and chicken in a roasted tomato cream sauce. The cream will provide the fat needed for satiety.
Are there some eating days that really worked for you? It will help you to track and figure out what you like and how to fit that into calorie needs.
iris lilies
2-13-20, 7:23pm
Thanks, I think the two meals a day might be part of the answer for me. Noom had me on 3 and I think I was actually eating more. I don't know why it did not work but that is one possibility.
what is a “ meal?” Noom counts calories?
Teacher Terry
2-13-20, 7:29pm
I don’t get up until 8 and eat the yogurt at 10. Then lunch at noon. If I got up earlier I would need to eat more. I am less hungry as I age. I had lunch at Olive Garden with a salad, one breadstick and the lunch lasagna which isn’t big and I was never hungry again the rest of the day. When I worked I ate a bowl of oatmeal in the morning.
catherine
2-13-20, 11:40pm
I'm actually doing a market research study right now about obesity/weight gain/loss journeys. I'm speaking with 50 people of all different weight levels.
I feel that the right recipe for weight loss has to be diet in tandem with increased physical activity, especially for people past a certain age. The people who have been able to lose and maintain weight typically, from what I've seen so far, are those who aren't super-super restrictive. They have basically healthy eating habits, but don't follow any particular program or diet. If they have a craving they might give in a little (if they want chocolate, eating a little bit) and they don't beat themselves up for occasional guilty pleasures.
They want to enjoy life, and they do enjoy life. As a result, they don't have an austerity mindset. They learn to enjoy healthier foods, and they learn to enjoy exercise, which the successful ones do regularly. I've spoken to runners and walkers and even a female body-builder.
It's been a really interesting project.
My most personal successful weight loss came when I avoided simple carbohydrates. I did not feel deprived at all. I have just signed up for a self-mastery program, of which "energy" is a module, and that covers things like eating and exercising. I'll let you know how it goes, but in general, I'm looking to stay relatively strong and flexible for my age, and to lose about 10 lbs.
It sounds like people are different in what their bodies require to function well. I have not hit on that yet. It is interesting to hear how different we are all, as to what works.
When I find something that is working for my body, I will report back, thanks.
Chicken lady
2-14-20, 8:16am
Catherine, your approach sounds more like what I am trying to do.
iris lilies
2-14-20, 9:58am
Yesterday I went into the chocolate shop in Hermann (Hermann has its own chocolate shop of hand made chocolates) where they were doing big business because of Valentine’s Day. I bought a pound of selected chocolates for DH.
I bought a giant peanut butter cup for me, and it probably amounts to half of my daily Weight Watchers points. But that is perfectly OK because I ate half of it yesterday, half today, and because WW gives extra points for the week, I’m well within points budget.
I saw a big loss on the doctor’s scale that afternoon, 4 pounds in 10 days. That seems too much really, so I’m waiting to see if that settles.I have been eating well with protein, veg, and a little carb, just reduced amounts. Drinking tons of water, 64 ounces each day.
Congratulations, IL, that's a lot in 10 days. WOW. Cool that WW is working well.
iris lilies
2-14-20, 10:28am
Congratulations, IL, that's a lot in 10 days. WOW. Cool that WW is working well.
I’m not celebrating yet. I think that’s probably the only time the doctor has heard “hey that scale can’t be right! “ meaning it’s too low. Something else is up here and I can’t figure out what it is because I was wearing the same clothing as last weigh in.
But no matter, this is a long process, it’ll be going on for months.
Have you changed exercise, too, or just your eating patterns?
iris lilies
2-14-20, 11:01am
Have you changed exercise, too, or just your eating patterns?
Didn’t change anything except this: started drinking red wine! See, the reason I think this is really off is that the week before I lost 3 lbs. This is a very rapid rate of loss. It will not continue. I have 3-4 more sizes to lose, So I have a LOT to lose and weight falls off if you have a lot to lose or have something else going on health-wise. We shall see.
It sounds to me like you got your body chemistry straightened out, probably the red wine.
catherine
2-14-20, 12:16pm
It sounds to me like you got your body chemistry straightened out, probably the red wine.
I thought all wine came with calories. I thought il has always been a wine drinker.
I thought all wine came with calories. I thought il has always been a wine drinker.
But red white is different than white--maybe that is the difference.
It sounds like people are different in what their bodies require to function well. I have not hit on that yet. It is interesting to hear how different we are all, as to what works.
When I find something that is working for my body, I will report back, thanks.
Can't wait to hear where you settle in for food lifestyle! I too am still searching.....there is dark chocolate, pasta and a fabulous chocolate chip cookie in my future..............I won't do a denial lifestyle. I need to learn to have a little on occasion as opposed to a LOT!
rosarugosa
2-14-20, 1:57pm
IL: I thought you had always been a red wine drinker?
I was able to shed a few pounds last year just by cutting back on wine consumption and sweets. I am a lightweight even at my heavier weight, but my pants fit more comfortably if I'm carrying less of that sugar weight that settles in the middle. I can't really solve the issue by going up a size, because then pants are too big in the hips, thigh and butt. I have zero tolerance for clothes that are too tight. My little sister, who is quite a bit bigger than me, lost 15 lbs last year just by giving up sweets. She would not indulge in so much as a Hershey's kiss. She says "sugar is my heroin." She does well with the all or nothing approach. I'm not a sweets addict, but I like them well enough and will eat the stuff if it's around and there was less of it around while she was off sugar. She is off sugar again, so that is probably good for me too. I find wine much more enticing, but it has quite a few calories, so just trying to consume a bit less of it.
iris lilies
2-14-20, 2:13pm
I thought all wine came with calories. I thought il has always been a wine drinker.
For the past year I’ve been drinking Scotch. I had respiratory infections, and wine tasted like crap. Those infections are gone, and I can go back to red wine, but there is a slight caloric difference.
Ww points: 3 pts for 3 ounces Scotch
WW points: 4 pts for 5 oz red wine
My daily points allowance is 30 which is very generous when you consider fruits and vegetable count as 0. Plus, you get a weekly alottment to spread over the week.
iris lilies
2-14-20, 2:40pm
Have you changed exercise, too, or just your eating patterns?
oh wait, if you mean by changing anything sure,
i now exercise daily for 30 minutes, but that has been going on since late December. It doesn't account for this recent 4+ lb loss in ten days. Anyway, enough about me.
I do think that drinking LOTS of water makes a difference in weight loss, for me anyway.
Today's eating:
turkey bacon for breakfast
capuccino at Starbucks
dinner was a turkey kielbasa/sweet potatoes/carrots/onions stir fry
1 sea salt caramel dark chocolate
Today's eating:
turkey bacon for breakfast
capuccino at Starbucks
dinner was a turkey kielbasa/sweet potatoes/carrots/onions stir fry
1 sea salt caramel dark chocolate
Good balance of protein/fat/veggies!
That's pretty much how I have been eating, but no weight loss.
I plan to just keep experimenting until I find what works.
Yesterday's food:
breakfast: cheese omelette
lunch: movie popcorn
dinner: collards, rice, and black eyed peas
Chicken lady
2-17-20, 8:21am
Tybee, you will find what works for you. Don’t give up!
Yesterday I cleaned out a stall.
i have lost two pounds. I still think it is “noise”.
Tybee, you will find what works for you. Don’t give up!
Yesterday I cleaned out a stall.
i have lost two pounds. I still think it is “noise”.
That is wonderful, CL!
I am bowing out of this thread as so far, I haven't found any success, and it's just frustrating.
Good luck to those who are commenting and finding it helpful. I have learned some new things to try, and that is good in itself.
But I don't think I am at any kind of accountability stage yet, since I am floundering.
Good Luck with the search Tybee it is a hard one but,
worth it. You are right going into an accountability stage
when you are not ready is only adding frustration. not helpful at all.
Danna
Thanks, Danna, that was my suspicion and thank you for putting it into words for me. You are right. I'm just not at that stage yet.
Chicken lady
2-18-20, 8:52am
I’m sorry for the frustrstionnTybee, good luck on your search!
i started the day with box cereal and yoga.
i think I probably need to sit down and make a list of healthy, filling breakfasts that can be prepared in less than two minutes start to finish. (Or stuck in the fridge to be grabbed/heated in the same window) that seems to be my friction point. (And by “start” I mean walk into the kitchen, and buy “finish” I mean prep dishes are in the sink, ingredients are put away, and I am taking a bite.)
iris lilies
2-18-20, 10:53am
I am upping my Vitamin D intake. Do you know what has tons of Vitamin D? Mackeral! I bought 2 smallish frozen mackeral and one serving provides 74% of daily requirement. That is a ton of citamin D.
Not really knowing what to do with these fish, and not wanting them to rot, i cooked them in the microwave and deboned them. I guess
i will use the meat on a salad.
I am upping my Vitamin D intake. Do you know what has tons of Vitamin D? Mackeral! I bought 2 smallish frozen mackeral and one serving provides 74% of daily requirement. That is a ton of citamin D.
Not really knowing what to do with these fish, and not wanting them to rot, i cooked them in the microwave and deboned them. I guess
i will use the meat on a salad.
you can use them to make mackeral cakes--like crabcakes.
I am upping my Vitamin D intake. Do you know what has tons of Vitamin D? Mackeral! I bought 2 smallish frozen mackeral and one serving provides 74% of daily requirement. That is a ton of citamin D.
Not really knowing what to do with these fish, and not wanting them to rot, i cooked them in the microwave and deboned them. I guess
i will use the meat on a salad.
I was just commenting to a friend that I wish I liked sardines (or any fish, truthfully) because they're nutritional powerhouses. Other than using small amounts of anchovies in salad dressing or fish sauce, so far I haven't managed it. I can handle cod liver oil.
catherine
2-18-20, 12:00pm
I was just commenting to a friend that I wish I liked sardines (or any fish, truthfully) because they're nutritional powerhouses. Other than using small amounts of anchovies in salad dressing or fish sauce, so far I haven't managed it. I can handle cod liver oil.
DH jokes about how many cans of sardines I have purchased that sat in the pantry for months because I thought I would eat them (for the nutritional value) but couldn't bring myself to do it. My father loved them and ate them all the time.
I do love anchovies, though. On pizza, in salads, whatever.
When I got back from Japan, I vowed to figure out how to have Japanese breakfasts, which feature lots of fish, usually simple poached or grilled small portions. Haven't done it yet.
iris lilies
2-18-20, 12:07pm
The package of feozen anchovies at the asian food mart had no nutrition label, so i skipped over buying it. In the back of my mind I thought surely anchovies have a lot of vitamin D! I’ll probably buy some next time around.
Jane, I have fish sauce in my refrigerator and I use it, but I just looked at the nutrition label and it doesn’t impart vitamin D to us, it has 0%.
check this one out, IL:
https://cooktoria.com/mackerel-patties/
I think with Lent coming, this should be a good time for recipes.
The package of feozen anchovies at the asian food mart had no nutrition label, so i skipped over buying it. In the back of my mind I thought surely anchovies have a lot of vitamin D! I’ll probably buy some next time around.
Jane, I have fish sauce in my refrigerator and I use it, but I just looked at the nutrition label and it doesn’t impart vitamin D to us, it has 0%.
Yeah, that's why I like cod liver oil...And vitamin D perles.
iris lilies
2-18-20, 1:16pm
check this one out, IL:
https://cooktoria.com/mackerel-patties/
I think with Lent coming, this should be a good time for recipes.
sorry, but mackerel patties remind me far too much of the hideous salmon patties my mother used to serve us, made canned salmon with cracker and eggs, so disgusting.
The last time I remember buying a can of mackerel was when I was trying to lure an elusive feral-ish cat into a trap. Everything else had failed but that mackerel got her in.
I found my experiment of frozen whole mackerel to be interesting, dont know if I will repeat it. Easier to go to the store and buy fresh salmon which I can afford, and now that I’m retired I have time to cook it correctly and carefully.
I just yesterday bought a couple lbs of ground turkey and cooked it up into tomato bathed dishes to freeze. But now as I look at the package, it is only 85% lean which is no better than ground beef for low calorie counting. Crap.
Teacher Terry
2-18-20, 1:20pm
IL, my mom’s salmon patties were the best. It’s the only time I would eat salmon.
rosarugosa
2-18-20, 6:49pm
DH jokes about how many cans of sardines I have purchased that sat in the pantry for months because I thought I would eat them (for the nutritional value) but couldn't bring myself to do it. My father loved them and ate them all the time.
I do love anchovies, though. On pizza, in salads, whatever.
When I got back from Japan, I vowed to figure out how to have Japanese breakfasts, which feature lots of fish, usually simple poached or grilled small portions. Haven't done it yet.
I have quite the collection of canned sardines too. It appears I like the idea of eating them more than the actual eating of them. I did make a quasi-puttanesca thing once that was quite good: sardines, olives, chopped tomatoes, capers and olive oil, and then I ate it with a salad.
ApatheticNoMore
2-18-20, 6:59pm
I make puttanesca but I use anchovies. I like fish, but sardines, um yea maybe like the idea of eating them more than actually eating them, canned herring is better. I would never microwave any fish, no it doesn't work ...
iris lilies
2-18-20, 7:23pm
You all are making me want to rush to the store to buy amchovies!
Chicken lady
2-18-20, 10:37pm
Meanwhile I’m contemplating bookmarking this section for when I need to reduce my appetite...��anchovies.
forgot my lunch. Ate some chocolate hearts from the teacher treats instead. Healthy dinner - high protein pasta and sugar free sauce, followed by a little ice cream. Swam a few extra laps tonight. The swimming felt good.
iris lilies
2-18-20, 11:32pm
I make puttanesca but I use anchovies. I like fish, but sardines, um yea maybe like the idea of eating them more than actually eating them, canned herring is better. I would never microwave any fish, no it doesn't work ...
Canned Pickled herring in cream sauce, lovely! Pretty high in calories methinks.
Weighed in last night
Down 1/2 lb from last week...total of 2 lbs in 3 weeks
I guess I will have to step it up to lose faster.
But, Jane you are right as long as I am losing and not gaining
I am on the right track...Danna
I'm down another 1.5# so 15.5# total since Jan 6.:cool:
Teacher Terry
2-19-20, 11:33am
G, that’s great!
G, that’s great! Thank you. It's a rough lifestyle change but the results in the mirror are rewarding even though I've not dropped a size pant yet. That damn lycra in jeans has been lying to me for decades:(
iris lilies
2-19-20, 2:18pm
Thank you. It's a rough lifestyle change but the results in the mirror are rewarding even though I've not dropped a size pant yet. That damn lycra in jeans has been lying to me for decades:(
Good job!
stretchy pants are what get me in trouble, still, I won’t give them up, they see me thru 2-3 sizes.
Is anyone on the My Fitness Pal app? I'm organizerBecky if you want to "friend" me.
Good job!
stretchy pants are what get me in trouble, still, I won’t give them up, they see me thru 2-3 sizes.
Last time I needed to replace fraying jeans, I checked every label in 3 stores (and I HATE to shop). Every single denim pair had lycra.
I will get on a scale every single day for the rest of my life (when I'm home). I'm so glad I kept that 1 pair of right size jeans that are pre-lycra. They are my goal.
Chicken lady
2-22-20, 9:38am
Very nice gardnr!
danna, you are on the right track! I think slow and steady is easier to keep off. It shows gradual, sustainable change.
this week has been very hectic for me. I did yoga early in the week, but dh schedule changed and we stopped. Also I forgot my bathing suit on Thursday and didn’t swim. I haven’t been eating too much quantity wise, but I’ve just been grabbing whatever is at hand and easy and appealing when I am hungry, so my nutritional choices have been poor. I will try to be more mindful this weekend.
Feb 25th weigh in down another 1/2 lb total
in 4 weeks 2 1/2 lbs.
It is going down but, not a quickly as I would like.
Of course when I am honest with myself I know
when and what I have eaten that is keeping the loss slow.
Tracking what I am eating this week.
Danna
when and what I have eaten that is keeping the loss slow. Tracking what I am eating this week. Danna
This is key Danna. To know exactly why you didn't drop some weight. Kristy Code Red says get on the scale every day so you know the result of yesterday's intake.
I'm down another 1/2# for a total of 16# since Jan 6. And yes, plenty of cheating! So I could be much further down this road. I have planned my next cheat meal. A favorite breakfast out when I hit 22#. I know it will cost me a temporary 2# gain. But oh so worth it.
Chicken lady
3-2-20, 6:16am
Danna and gardnr, you are both doing well. Lifestyle changes are hard. And awareness is important.
i made both swim days with Dd last week and have been doing well on the food quantity. I could still be making better choices about nutrition. Dh has been cooking less this week, so there has been less temptation.
i am down 4.5 pounds now, so I am calling that a real loss. It is below a previous set point.
iris lilies
3-2-20, 7:23am
Danna and gardnr, you are both doing well. Lifestyle changes are hard. And awareness is important.
i made both swim days with Dd last week and have been doing well on the food quantity. I could still be making better choices about nutrition. Dh has been cooking less this week, so there has been less temptation.
i am down 4.5 pounds now, so I am calling that a real loss. It is below a previous set point.
CL it is great you moved off that set point.
I am down 17.5 pounds since Jan 6.
A wonderful thought hit me yesterday as hubby and I were talking about foods we miss. "I don't think those will taste as good right now as being down 17.5 pounds feels"! :cool:
We have agreed to another month on Code Red. Will there be cheats? Of course! I will not live a denial life of foods I love! I've had plenty of cheats in 8 weeks. And plenty of success to know it's working just fine.
iris lilies
3-2-20, 10:40am
So far in 2+ months of Weight Watchers program, I havent “cheated” once. That is not a brag about willpower so much as:
1) WW allows extra points per week that I may or may not use, my choice. Sometimes I use them, sometimes I do not.
2) My life has been slow and at-home, little socializing in these winter months, no travel. So it is easy to stay focused and be able to cook at home.
More challenges come to low-calorie eating as our schedule opens up to being away from home a lot.
More challenges come to low-calorie eating as our schedule opens up to being away from home a lot.
My sisters both live WW. When eating on the go, eggs/meat for Bfast and big salads for lupper and an occasional dessert they share with their travel companion.
Generally, they gain 1 pound per trip and that's easy to take off and get back to goal.
I did weight watchers back in 2018. And then I dropped it like a hot potato. Stupid work stress. I see it as a way to maintain once I hit goal. Allowing any food is great as it's moderation that is key.
Teacher Terry
3-2-20, 1:31pm
Great news CL. Now that I am not as hungry I can eat a big lunch and then be done for the day which makes traveling easier. I like counting calories because I can eat whatever I want. It doesn’t matter what system you use as long as it works.
Catherine: Today I had the look-on-the-bright-side thought that if we get quarantined due to the Corona virus, we can consider it a golden opportunity to eat our sardine stashes! :laff:
I'm feeling like the energizer bunny today! It is one of the known side effects of the Code Red lifestyle. NO, I am NOT advocating it as a long-term lifestyle but I have lost 17.5# since Jan 6 (with plenty of cheating). But in the recent 2 weeks, I've noticed a really high energy level. Hubster and I have agreed to do 1 more month and then discuss again. We are also planning our next cheat meal ��
OK. It was measurement day. Since Jan 6: 19 pounds and 10.25 inches. 4.75 inches from my hips! Yippee.
But herein lies the ultimate lie of lycra in jeans: I still wear the same jeans and they are not at all baggie. There is no way we should be sold pants that stretch that much and don't feel tight! ugh! All that time I was gaining weight and my pants were lying to me.......
Again I will say, I will get on the scale every day I am home, for the rest of my life (or until lycra disappears from pants!)
Code Red works!
I've cut out processed sugar (still eating fruit and veggies) and chips, crackers, etc. since Ash Wednesday. I've dropped about 3 pounds, but more importantly, I think my inflammation has decreased. Lower back pain due to osteoarthritis has decreased.
Chicken lady
3-9-20, 7:34am
Gardnr and beckyliz,
nice!
i gained a pound this week. Trying to tell myself it’s the same “noise” as when I only lost a pound - a glass of water difference.
20# today! :cool:
and today is clear liquids only so that I can have a clean colonoscopy tomorrow :~) I haven't been hungry yet today and it's 1230 so that's good. Prep starts at 5pm. Oh joy. 2nd dose, 0130. Fun night.
Congratulations Gardnr, Hope the colonoscopy goes well.
Congratulations Gardnr, Hope the colonoscopy goes well.
Thank you. Easy peasy. The prep wasn't nearly as awful as people describe. 2 very small polyps removed.
Teacher Terry
3-10-20, 4:09pm
I think the prep is better than what it used to be.
I think the prep is better than what it used to be.I don't know about that. I've done the prep 3 times over the past 20 years, the last time being 18 months ago. Forcing that nasty liquid down my gullet nearly killed me each time. After my last colonoscopy they said I needn't return for another 10 years and my first thought was not that I must have a healthy colon, it was thank God I don't need to drink that nasty stuff again.
I don't know about that. I've done the prep 3 times over the past 20 years, the last time being 18 months ago. Forcing that nasty liquid down my gullet nearly killed me each time. After my last colonoscopy they said I needn't return for another 10 years and my first thought was not that I must have a healthy colon, it was thank God I don't need to drink that nasty stuff again.
Mine was SuPrep. 6oz mixed with 10oz water, chased by 32oz water in the following 2 hours. 14h before procedure and then repeat 6h before procedure. Preceded by a full day of clear liquids only.
It wasn't tasty but it was fine. I used Gatorade zero and Fresca immediately after just to eliminate the flavor.
rosarugosa
3-11-20, 5:45am
My DH has done the SuPrep and I've always gotten the Golytely (sp?) which is the 4 liter jug of nastiness. Alan, I had the same good results and same reaction as you. Next time, I will insist on the SuPrep protocol.
Teacher Terry
3-11-20, 11:51am
I am not doing any medical procedures/appointments until this virus is over. I don’t want to be in a medical facility and canceled mine.
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