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happystuff
9-23-20, 7:33am
Yes, I had that experience as well during my search. Good luck!
Thanks.
happystuff
9-27-20, 11:02pm
Offered and accepted. I start back in an online retail warehouse on the 5th - 2nd shift.
Teacher Terry
9-27-20, 11:28pm
That’s great happy:))
Offered and accepted. I start back in an online retail warehouse on the 5th - 2nd shift.
Excellent!
rosarugosa
9-28-20, 6:12am
Congratulations!
frugal-one
9-28-20, 6:27am
Great news
Congratulations, happystuff, that is wonderful!
One thought to add. I have heard that it is wiser to look for work of choice when employed. Being on 2nd shift will enable daytime interview times if you find a position that you might prefer.
happystuff
9-28-20, 9:41am
Thanks everyone. And, that's so true, razz. So NOW I feel like I have a week's vacation. LOL.
SteveinMN
9-28-20, 12:57pm
:+1:
happystuff
10-6-20, 12:34pm
Well, I have survived 1st day of orientation and initial training. Got home, showered and was in bed by 1 a.m.. Unfortunately, still woke up at 6 - LOL. Stayed in bed and dozed, eventually getting up by 8:30. Will see how tired I am by the end of tonight.
So far, people and job are good. Depending on what specific job I will be doing, I should get plenty of exercise. LOL.
Thanks again for all the support these last few months.
Thanks for the update, HS. It will take some time to fit into the new rhythm of your work days but you will.
Well, I have survived 1st day of orientation and initial training. Got home, showered and was in bed by 1 a.m.. Unfortunately, still woke up at 6 - LOL. Stayed in bed and dozed, eventually getting up by 8:30. Will see how tired I am by the end of tonight.
So far, people and job are good. Depending on what specific job I will be doing, I should get plenty of exercise. LOL.
Thanks again for all the support these last few months.
Thanks for the update!
rosarugosa
10-7-20, 6:43am
Glad the first day went well!
Good news, happystuff, and hope it continues to go well. You deserve a break and a job you like!
I transferred locations just in time. A coworker at my old site got covid after I left and everyone there had to be tested. This is his second week out of work at home.
He was always hanging around the VFW so I am not surprised. He is in his 60's, overweight and a smoker, so I hope he does okay. Even though he probably brought this on himself, by socializing indoors, and by leading a lifestyle that makes him vulnerable to symptoms, rather than being asymptomatic so he could slide under the radar and not need medical attention/diagnosis, I still wish him well.
He used to cough in the office and not cover his mouth. I think masks are overkill but you should cough into your sleeve or a tissue or something. Fortunately no one else at the office caught it from him. All tested negative.
Teacher Terry
11-11-20, 6:56pm
Maybe your coworker got it at work.
I transferred locations just in time. A coworker at my old site got covid after I left and everyone there had to be tested. This is his second week out of work at home.
He was always hanging around the VFW so I am not surprised. He is in his 60's, overweight and a smoker, so I hope he does okay. Even though he probably brought this on himself, by socializing indoors, and by leading a lifestyle that makes him vulnerable to symptoms, rather than being asymptomatic so he could slide under the radar and not need medical attention/diagnosis, I still wish him well.
He used to cough in the office and not cover his mouth. I think masks are overkill but you should cough into your sleeve or a tissue or something. Fortunately no one else at the office caught it from him. All tested negative.
Studies are showing some people with no risk factors are dying, and some people with many risk factors are hardly having symptoms. Please don’t blame anyone for getting covid, for getting a serious case, etc.
Studies are showing some people with no risk factors are dying, and some people with many risk factors are hardly having symptoms. Please don’t blame anyone for getting covid, for getting a serious case, etc.
If people shouldn't be blamed for covid cases, why do so many people blame those who don't wear masks?
I don’t do this. I can’t control others, only me. It’s becoming impossible to talk rationally with you, and I do care.
I think you would benefit from some therapy, said in the kindest way possible.
I've been told not to comment on covid (not by you) because I am not a public health expert. I wonder if anyone will tell you not to comment on me because you are not a psychologist.
Another one added to my ignore list.
rosarugosa
11-12-20, 6:24am
That's too bad, Jeppy. Tammy is one of the kindest, wisest voices on the forum. She's also a psychiatric nurse, so not exactly unqualified in her comment either.
It seems the kindness and nonjudgmentalism is one way with so many. Bad Republicans they got the covid they deserved from hugging and not wearing masks at a party for Amy Coney Barrett although they were rapidly tested. Democrats or people of unknown affiliation poor victims, it's not their fault, and folks like Biden can hug people and none of them wear masks because they speculate those involved all got rapid tested.
As to being a psychiatric nurse, I remember when some tried to psychoanalyze Trump from afar others said only a psychiatrist who has seen him in person in treatment can really diagnose him. Dismissing people one disagrees with as narcissistic etc has become popular but it's not medically valid.
It’s becoming impossible to talk rationally with you,
Tammy as a psych nurse, you are clearly aware of the limitations of talking rationally with someone on the OCD spectrum. Logic and facts just aren't going to matter, they will just keeping bringing up the same items again and again. They can't help it.
I think using the ignore function with posters who annoy you is such a good idea. Preserve one's mental peace.
Teacher Terry
11-12-20, 1:37pm
Sadly Covid is taking a high mental toll on many people. I for one will be glad when we have a effective vaccine and can put this behind us. This winter will be long and ugly. One of our local hospitals made part of their parking garage into a hospital.
And it didn't have to be this bad.
frugal-one
11-12-20, 3:46pm
I've been told not to comment on covid (not by you) because I am not a public health expert. I wonder if anyone will tell you not to comment on me because you are not a psychologist.
Another one added to my ignore list.
You should add us all because we feel the same.
That's too bad, Jeppy. Tammy is one of the kindest, wisest voices on the forum. She's also a psychiatric nurse, so not exactly unqualified in her comment either.
And I’m certified in psychiatric nursing as well. With 2 decades of experience in multiple practice settings. My recommendation is within my scope of practice and licensure. But that’s ok. People are under so much stress this year and we are using every coping mechanism we can muster - healthy and not so healthy.
Tammy as a psych nurse, you are clearly aware of the limitations of talking rationally with someone on the OCD spectrum. Logic and facts just aren't going to matter, they will just keeping bringing up the same items again and again. They can't help it.
Yes I agree. Hence the therapy recommendation.
happystuff
11-18-20, 6:19pm
So work is definitely being affected by Covid - again! Only had to stand at the table for my hour of early OT and 1/2 hour of regular time today as they called EVERYONE into the break room early on in the shift. It seems they had *just* found out that someone who was in the building on Sunday tested positive for Covid. They shut down our shift, cleared the building and are doing a deep clean tonight. Unpaid, but we have the option of doing extra hours the rest of the week if we want. We came home, stripped at the door (clothes went right into the washer) and showered.
I transferred locations just in time. A coworker at my old site got covid after I left and everyone there had to be tested. This is his second week out of work at home.
He was always hanging around the VFW so I am not surprised. He is in his 60's, overweight and a smoker, so I hope he does okay. Even though he probably brought this on himself, by socializing indoors, and by leading a lifestyle that makes him vulnerable to symptoms, rather than being asymptomatic so he could slide under the radar and not need medical attention/diagnosis, I still wish him well.
He used to cough in the office and not cover his mouth. I think masks are overkill but you should cough into your sleeve or a tissue or something. Fortunately no one else at the office caught it from him. All tested negative.
I found out today he was a false positive. Everyone was tested, lost a day's work, and the building was deep cleaned for nothing.
happystuff
11-18-20, 7:47pm
I found out today he was a false positive. Everyone was tested, lost a day's work, and the building was deep cleaned for nothing.
For nothing? How different I imagine your post would be if it turned out to be a true positive. Good for the precautions! Glad no one got sick.
The store closest to us got hit. We will be extra busy until the store is cleaned. Once it reopens 10% of our staff, as well as folks from other locations, will go there to cover until test results are in and any negative employees can return to work.
One employee was supposedly positive. We'll see if this is another big disruption for a false positive.
We are now locking the office door so customers can't breeze past the employees only sign and come in anyways.
ApatheticNoMore
11-21-20, 2:24am
Might have to go back to the office at least some of the work days soon (still would be mostly work from home - the majority of the days). Although ... with cases increasing exponentially as they are here (hitting records), we may hit county-wide stay at home orders real soon. Although technically they always could legally make us come in, we fall under essential.
It's why claims that work from home will last past coronavirus are ever so much ridiculousness. It probably won't even last until we have a vaccine, they've been talking about bringing us back since the pandemic started - but they have been good to us so far. Even if they brought us back it would not be everyone in at a time but staggered days to reduce occupancy. Basically they have taken the health crisis into some account and I do get they are better employers than other offices who haven't. I just wish they weren't always leaving us in suspense, it's been brutal to never know anything more than a week in advance. But whatever at this point covid seems as unavoidable as death itself, I take precautions, but if it really wants to get you it will, you can run but you can't hide, or is it: you can hide but you can't run.
But no, we're not all going to be working from home in the future, neither will we all be working 10 hour weeks in the 21st century, or have flying cars.
happystuff
11-21-20, 12:07pm
One employee was supposedly positive. We'll see if this is another big disruption for a false positive.
You would rather a disruption and a true positive?
Our building is now divided into three zones, office, store and warehouse. You are not supposed to go outside your zone but that will not work because we are short staffed and people have to travel to other zones to cover. However I will be able to stay in my zone and other people will bring my work and slide it under a window with a gap on the bottom.
Some employees are supposed to be working from home but they come in anyways because they don't like to work from home. So we will see how much compliance there is with this new system for how long.
I will no longer have access to the filtered water cooler so I will bring extra water from home.
My previous location has been hit hard. 6 out of 40 some employees have tested positive. They are finally letting some people work from home who should have been working remotely throughout the pandemic. I hope I don't get called to go back to help cover in covid city.
My current location is actually taking the virus seriously. The boss bought a second fridge and microwave yesterday to set up a second lunchroom so employees stay in their own zone and do not mingle.
Some of our company stores are now curbside pickup only but the one I am in is still open to customers.
My wife was notified last night by her schools contact tracing team that she had come into contact with an asymptomatic teacher at school on Tuesday. She can return to work after a 7 day quarantine with a negative covid test. The test must be administered no earlier than 5 days after notification. So, looks like we're both quarantining at home for a while as we arrange to be tested next Tuesday.
iris lilies
12-11-20, 10:11am
My wife was notified last night by her schools contact tracing team that she had come into contact with an asymptomatic teacher at school on Tuesday. She can return to work after a 7 day quarantine with a negative covid test. The test must be administered no earlier than 5 days after notification. So, looks like we're both quarantining at home for a while as we arrange to be tested next Tuesday.
hope you two avoid this illness!
hope you two avoid this illness!Me too! I think we're fine but it will be nice to have that thought confirmed.
JaneV2.0
12-11-20, 11:11am
Scary times...hoping for your "all clear."
happystuff
12-11-20, 11:57am
Hope you both test negative and avoid covid!
frugal-one
12-11-20, 3:50pm
Thoughts going your way Alan!!! Hope all is well!
Teacher Terry
12-11-20, 4:05pm
Definitely hoping you both are negative!
My wife was notified last night by her schools contact tracing team that she had come into contact with an asymptomatic teacher at school on Tuesday. She can return to work after a 7 day quarantine with a negative covid test. The test must be administered no earlier than 5 days after notification. So, looks like we're both quarantining at home for a while as we arrange to be tested next Tuesday.
I now know quite a few people quarantining with no symptoms. Hopefully the both of you continue to feel fine.
It's interesting how different employers approach this. At my job they push a rapid test so you can be back to work the next day if it's negative, no 5 day minimum wait.
Hope you and your wife stay fine, and can kick back and little and rest this week!
An employee out for test results is back today as they came in negative. Some of that time was without pay. The company gave us an extra week of sick time this year due to covid but lots of people wasted it on other things including I don't feel like getting out of bed today. I still have my time in case we get an outbreak.
My wife was able to do a rapid test yesterday morning and received a negative result in the afternoon. She's returning to school tomorrow.
She joined her special needs students via Google Meet for their afternoon session and invited me as well. We all did the Hokey Pokey together as a celebratory dance.
rosarugosa
12-15-20, 9:50am
Glad to hear of the negative test results!
happystuff
12-15-20, 12:09pm
Glad to hear the negative test. And what fun - the Hokey Pokey! lol.
Teacher Terry
12-15-20, 12:12pm
Love the hokey pokey! So fun:))
That's what it's all about, really.
Love the Hokey Pokey thing. :D
rosarugosa
12-15-20, 7:03pm
That's what it's all about, really.
:laff::laff::laff:
iris lilies
12-16-20, 10:42am
Love the hokey pokey! So fun:))
haha!
And I’m glad the Alan household is Covid free.
Last year was my employer’s tenth anniversary of US operations. The holiday party was at a fancy club near the Chicago headquarters and everyone flew in for a few days to attend and celebrate. This year they sent us all a cocktail making setup and hired a mixologist to do a zoom party. Definitely not the same but given how things are right now it was still a nice event.
That’s an interesting way to do it!
That’s an interesting way to do it!
Given reality I thought the social committee did a great job with this. Part of the event was a scavenger hunt. Among the items that we had to find in our house were things like "something that's older than you". I held up for the camera the little wooden rocking chair that was my dad's when he was a kid (and mine when I was a kid). Other people offered up similar items that meant something to them.
ApatheticNoMore
12-18-20, 1:17pm
Another covid scare at my bfs workplace and the fear is now if a few people there got covid and were out, the whole company might grind to a halt as it is radically understaffed as is (small business), people keep leaving (finding other jobs) and they have not been able to find new employees. Luckily my company is mostly work from home still, for how long who knows, they keep trying to bring us back, but covid keeps surging - record high numbers, so it gets postponed.
A customer came in today and wanted to pay his bill in cash. I asked if he could pay another way as we are trying to not take cash due to covid. He said no. I indicated he would need to slide his money under my window. It would not fit because it was in thick stacks with paper bands around the bills. He wanted me to open the window. I told him it was locked. He refused to take the paper bands off the bills and divide the stacks of bills into smaller stacks that would fit under the window. It's a large enough gap you can fit a full 9 x 11 envelope under it when the mail comes. It's not like he would have to slide each individual bill through the opening. But he refused and said he will go to a different store of ours to pay and left.
Someone also brought their dog into the store and the dog was not wearing a mask although there have been cases of interspecies transmission.
The coworker who flew to Florida to bring Granny north for the holidays, then flew her back, has been engaging in other risky behavior. He has been dating several women at close quarters not Zoom dates and one of them tested positive. He was able to get a rapid response test and it came back negative. He sits in the same office space (cubicles) as me so this is the closest near miss yet. He sits maybe 20 feet away from me.
Someone also brought their dog into the store and the dog was not wearing a mask although there have been cases of interspecies transmission.
Why does this post not surprise me? So sorry you had possible exposure from an unmasked dog.
With covid stats improving we can now travel outside our zone at work. I feel like I have been freed from a cage. I also volunteered to take on a new task that involves going into the store zone since I like learning new things. I do have to wear a mask outside my zone and it caught on my earring and broke but I stapled it together again. Maybe Joe Biden will send me a new one.
My employer is attempting to obtain vaccine doses to be administered to us by the company nurse. I like this idea. When she gives us flu shots we never have any of pocket costs.
A customer was saying today he shouldn't have to wear a mask because he is fully vaccinated, so it is not just me and the Israelis who think this way.
GeorgeParker
2-23-21, 2:28am
The coworker who flew to Florida to bring Granny north for the holidays, then flew her back, has been engaging in other risky behavior.I'll be very glad when we get back to "risky behavior" being something that only happens when two people take their clothes off!
ApatheticNoMore
2-23-21, 2:40am
I'll be very glad when we get back to "risky behavior" being something that only happens when two people take their clothes off!
I thought it was what happens when washing raw chicken. Ack salmonella, it's everywhere!!!
I thought it was what happens when washing raw chicken. Ack salmonella, it's everywhere!!!
Is washing raw chicken something people actually do?
Is washing raw chicken something people actually do?
Before I prepare it for cooking, I rinse it briefly just to wash off the fluid it's been "resting in".
ApatheticNoMore
2-23-21, 2:29pm
Handling raw chicken was literally the part of life where I most worried about germs before the coronavirus. I do wash it, sometimes cut skin off, sometimes marinate, that's all contaminated.
But such was the extent of my dealing with germs pre-coronavirus, the most contaminated thing I ever did. Sure there were colds, but I rarely get sick.
iris lilies
2-23-21, 3:02pm
Is washing raw chicken something people actually do?
oh hell yes!
Can’t you feel the slimy bacteria all over it when handle it? Now does it really get rid of significant amounts of bacteria? Probably not, But it certainly feels cleaner to me when I wash off that top layer of slime. Chicken goes bad very quickly.
That’s interesting. I seem to remember reading somewhere that all that washing would do is splatter the bacteria all over the place so I’ve never done it. I do, however, wash my hands thoroughly immediately after handling it and even wash the tongs after flipping it if I’m grilling it.
iris lilies
2-23-21, 6:56pm
That’s interesting. I seem to remember reading somewhere that all that washing would do is splatter the bacteria all over the place so I’ve never done it. I do, however, wash my hands thoroughly immediately after handling it and even wash the tongs after flipping it if I’m grilling it.
I usually wash it in a deep kitchen sink so the only splash back goes into the kitchen sink.
You should NOT WASH ANY MEAT! https://www.chowhound.com/food-news/113229/should-you-rinse-meat-before-cooking-it/
"Just imagine all those little buggies flying off your meat as you rinse, latching onto the water molecules of the microscopic mist, and landing in your open mouth or nostrils, on the counters beside the sink, and on your clothes. Ewww. Any bacteria lurking on meat when it comes out of the package will die during cooking. Sadly, you can’t say the same for your sink, counters, utensils, or cutting board, all of which should be washed with hot, soapy water, rinsed, and then air- or paper-towel-dried after being in contact with meat."
I have often wondered about this so just checked. It makes sense."
My mother had a smooth ceramic cutting board to minimize the chance of bacteria sticking to it. We just use a different one for meat and then put it through the dishwasher.
iris lilies
2-24-21, 11:28am
You should NOT WASH ANY MEAT! https://www.chowhound.com/food-news/113229/should-you-rinse-meat-before-cooking-it/
"Just imagine all those little buggies flying off your meat as you rinse, latching onto the water molecules of the microscopic mist, and landing in your open mouth or nostrils, on the counters beside the sink, and on your clothes. Ewww. Any bacteria lurking on meat when it comes out of the package will die during cooking. Sadly, you can’t say the same for your sink, counters, utensils, or cutting board, all of which should be washed with hot, soapy water, rinsed, and then air- or paper-towel-dried after being in contact with meat."
I have often wondered about this so just checked. It makes sense."
hmm, ok I will take that under advisement. I doubt that I will ever mask up like a surgeon to wash chicken and avoid microscopic bacteria, but I will be more mindful of it. Thank you.
Teacher Terry
2-24-21, 11:40am
I don’t wash meat.
This is the new level of paranoia in this country - a coworker has a son away in college who has not been home since semester break nor has his family visited him. Just now in March he has tested positive for covid and town health officials ordered his parents who had no contact with him to quarantine for two weeks at home. Only in Charlie Bakerland. But you can fly into Logan Airport from places around the world that are hotspots for new variants.
iris lilies
3-12-21, 4:49pm
This is the new level of paranoia in this country - a coworker has a son away in college who has not been home since semester break nor has his family visited him. Just now in March he has tested positive for covid and town health officials ordered his parents who had no contact with him to quarantine for two weeks at home. Only in Charlie Bakerland. But you can fly into Logan Airport from places around the world that are hotspots for new variants.
I find this hard to believe, jep.
Who is Charlie Baker?
GeorgeParker
3-12-21, 5:40pm
I find this hard to believe, jep.I don't find it hard to believe. It goes like this: Student tests positive for virus. To CYA college notifies health department in his home town so they can check if parents have been exposed. Simplest thing for health department to do is just tell parents they should quarantine without asking parents any questions. Parents should immediately protest that they've had no contact since [date], and in most cases that will be the end of it because the health department doesn't want to waste time or resources hounding people who haven't been exposed. There are exceptions when the bureaucracy gets out of hand, but most agencies want to make it easy on themselves by just saying "Ok. Sign here. Goodbye."
Who is Charlie Baker?Massachusetts governor
I find this hard to believe, jep.
Who is Charlie Baker?
Life is stranger than fiction sometimes. Fortunately the employee in question is able to work remotely vs having to use up all of his sick time and some of his vacation time for nothing.
Logically, GP's approach would be quietly followed and that would be the end of the story but, instead, it has become a melodramatic act of villainy by a group of overworked staff coping with a once in a century pandemic.
iris lilies
3-12-21, 8:22pm
Ah ok, so the “order” was some sort of bureaucratic communication that could be ignored with no consequences.
I would ignore that then.
Ah ok, so the “order” was some sort of bureaucratic communication that could be ignored with no consequences.
I would ignore that then.
I think a lot of it is liability. If you were told to quarantine and you come to work and it gets back to the Board of Health you have caused a problem for your employer if anyone on the job or any customer on the premises gets covid even if it is totally unrelated. People are not only paranoid but litigious.
It's a shame yppej's coworker doesn't live in Kansas. Judging from the super low positive numbers there currently and the overall death rates a lot of the rural counties appear to have achieved the republican dream of herd immunity through killing off as many people as possible. Coworker could simply respond "meh, the whole damn county's already had trump plague here. no big deal."
GeorgeParker
3-12-21, 11:53pm
Ah ok, so the “order” was some sort of bureaucratic communication that could be ignored with no consequences. I would ignore that then.Doing that would be very unwise.
If you tell the health department you haven't been in contact with person X for a long time, and they say,"ok. never mind." you're free to go about your business. But if you ignore the self-quarantine order instead of convincing the health department to lift it, you are at unlimited risk, because maybe you've been infected by contact with someone else but don't have any symptoms yet.
If you go to work and spread the virus to other people while under a self-quarantine order, you're in trouble for violating the self-quarantine order, even though the reason for the self-quarantine order was invalid and you had no way of knowing you were infected. OTOH if the order is lifted and you spread the virus without knowing you're infected, then you're just the same as any other innocent carrier. That's why ignoring the self-quarantine order would be a bad idea.
BTW I'm still wondering if it was really an order, or just a suggestion of the "you may have been exposed" type. And in either case I wonder if the contact tracers asked appropriate questions or just issued a routine "stay at home" message, possibly via robo call. There's a lot of missing information here.
GeorgeParker
3-13-21, 2:41am
But you can fly into Logan Airport from places around the world that are hotspots for new variants.BTW Yppej, according to https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/risk-assessment.html#:~:text=CDC%20requires%20all%20air %20passengers,before%20their%20flight%27s%20depart ure
"To reduce introduction and spread of new variants of SARS-CoV-2, CDC issued an Order (https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/fr-proof-negative-test.html) effective January 26, 2021. It requires all air passengers arriving to the US from a foreign country to get tested for COVID-19 infection no more than 3 days before their flight departs and to provide proof of the negative result or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 to the airline before boarding the flight. For more information on this testing requirement, see the Frequently Asked Questions (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html)."
So you can relax about people arriving at the airport.
Not really GP. A person could be tested 3 days before their flight home and be negative, then contract the virus 2 days before their flight home.
GeorgeParker
3-13-21, 3:47pm
Not really GP. A person could be tested 3 days before their flight home and be negative, then contract the virus 2 days before their flight home.True, but I'd be a lot more worried about the people driving up I-95 from New York City looking for a safe place to hide from the virus.
After being told our company of public facing essential workers would get the vaccine, the governor has now withdrawn the promised supply. But hey, health care bureaucrats who work 100% remotely have had it for months now. Priorities, right?
In the latest idiocy, a different coworker is out because a relative of his had a positive test. He went for a covid test and it came back negative. The town then told him he must get a second negative test before returning to work. That is scheduled, but here is the real ridiculousness - they told him he is not allowed outside of his house even to work in his yard. He lives in a single family home - it is not a shared yard space like in a public housing project.
When will the infringement on people's civil liberties stop?
linacapeola
3-30-21, 10:25am
I working on a software engineer position in (https://mlsdev.com/services/custom-software-development)https://mlsdev.com/services/custom-software-development. We work nonstop during quarantine. If you want a web development company that can meet all your web application needs, you have to be careful about what you are hiring. A web development company is doing the best it can to figure out your audience's current needs and wants to meet them on their existing web products and services.
I working on a software engineer position. We work nonstop during quarantine. If you want a web development company that can meet all your web application needs, you have to be careful about what you are hiring. A web development company is doing the best it can to figure out your audience's current needs and wants to meet them on their existing web products and services.
How is this special? Anyone in your industry can work remotely. Spam!
happystuff
3-30-21, 2:28pm
Got an email from work today that there was another positive COVID case that apparently was in the warehouse this past Saturday, when a lot of employees were in fulfilling their mandatory OT (I was not as I worked last Saturday). Will be interesting to see if there are any additional follow-up cases. I hope not!
We received guidance Friday that once state mandates are lifted employees in any location where 75% of employees are vaccinated will not have to wear masks. But already about half the employees at my site have stopped wearing them altogether and the boss is not enforcing it. After he got his shots one employee said, "Covid is over."
I put my "I'm vaccinated" sticker on my sliding glass window at work so hopefully any customers who come up feel more comfortable.
Of our 10 employees 6 are fully vaccinated, 2 of us are half vaccinated, 1 doesn't want the vaccine and compares injecting something into your body to shooting heroin, and there is one whose vaccine status I do not know. He is related to the anti-vaxxer and may share his views. We plan to hire another employee who will be coming from a job where he is mandated to take the flu shot and likely he has received the covid vaccine also.
A coworker of mine said today he will get a vaccine when the government says vaccinated people don't have to wear masks. He will not do it otherwise because he is not going to "do it for nothing".
Here is one way to address vaccine hesitancy.
The governor of Utah basically said the same thing to Biden.
ApatheticNoMore
5-12-21, 4:13pm
of they could offer free beer, probably be just as effective.
ApatheticNoMore
5-12-21, 5:57pm
One imagines the same guy still complaining like a kid "I'm not eating my vegetables for nothing!" And one is like after this many decades noone cares i you eat your vegetables anymore. "Mom always gave me a treat if I ate my broccoli ..."
A coworker of mine said today he will get a vaccine when the government says vaccinated people don't have to wear masks. He will not do it otherwise because he is not going to "do it for nothing".
Here is one way to address vaccine hesitancy.
The governor of Utah basically said the same thing to Biden.
If he thinks the only reason to get a vaccine is because of masks then he clearly doesn’t understand the benefit of masks or vaccines.
Personally I am glad I’m fully vaccinated because I was able to drop my car off at my mechanic and take an Uber (for the first time in 14 months) home without fear of getting a deadly illness. I still wore a mask. Uber driver work a mask and face shield and had the windows all the way down per the CDC guidance. Other than wishing I’d worn my winter coat since it was 48 degrees and foggy as we drove across the golden gate bridge, which caused a bit of hypothermia on the ride, it was all good.
Our COO said things are back to normal now. We are following CDC guidelines not the different rules of all the different states we do business in. Summer cookouts for customers begin after Memorial Day. Life is good! 80% of our employees are vaccinated, and this in a very red industry. Most people will do the right thing, you don't need to hold guns - or masks - to their heads.
A customer came in wearing a mask and an employee asked him, "You're not vaccinated?" I was surprised to see peer pressure in play, but maybe it will work with some of the reluctant.
Chicken lady
6-3-21, 6:31am
Two more days of school.
Today is the last day that I have online students. 3 divided into two classes.
the LAST day. If students cannot be in my room next year, they cannot be in my classes. If admin decides this is a dealbreaker, I will retire.
Chicken lady, I have heard that from a number of teachers. The worst for them are hybrid classes where they were trying to each both onsite and online students at the same time with extremely limited assistance.
Chicken lady
6-3-21, 7:08am
I have been teaching hybrid pottery classes with a part time (1-2 hours a week) aide to help with supply distribution.
Before you can pin a student to look at their work, you have to wash the clay off of your hands.
there is no sink in my room.
just no.
happystuff
6-3-21, 10:39am
I have several friends who are teachers and some of the stories they tell... :0! I know it is a unique situation, but so hard on everyone - teachers, students, parents. Kudos for everyone working through it all to the end of this school year.
Teacher Terry
6-3-21, 2:04pm
CL, I hope things return to normal next school year for you. Also wondering how your home renovation is going? You haven’t mentioned it in a long time.
Most certainly my work is affected. More than half my vaccination shifts are cancelled d/t lack of interest. We've not hit 40% and vaccines started in December. One of my patients yesterday is 12. Super happy to be protected in 5 weeks. Mom said "I wish his friends were getting it. Not a single one will be vaccinated so her son will continue to wear a mask to protect them." Totally sucks.
I've had 9 and 10 year olds beg me to break the rules when their older sibling is getting it. The grade school kids/parents are realizing they will likely wear masks for another school year.
Teacher Terry
6-5-21, 12:43pm
G, that’s terrible!
Most certainly my work is affected. More than half my vaccination shifts are cancelled d/t lack of interest. We've not hit 40% and vaccines started in December. One of my patients yesterday is 12. Super happy to be protected in 5 weeks. Mom said "I wish his friends were getting it. Not a single one will be vaccinated so her son will continue to wear a mask to protect them." Totally sucks.
I've had 9 and 10 year olds beg me to break the rules when their older sibling is getting it. The grade school kids/parents are realizing they will likely wear masks for another school year.
Sigh... kudos to the mom for thinking about others.
40% seems really low at this point in time!!! Let's hope the 60% don't all get sick and/or don't get sick all at once!
Chicken lady
6-6-21, 8:12am
Gardnr, your job must be agonizing.
I might get used to intractable idiots, but telling the little ones no would beat me down. One of the things that helped me get through the end of the school year was celebrating with each kid who got vaxxed.
TT, the addition is done except for a small outside deck and permanent steps - on hold for a while because they aren’t a big deal and lumber $.
Teacher Terry
6-6-21, 3:25pm
Cl, so happy that your addition is finished! Lumber is really crazy right now. Friends are building a house and it’s really driving up the cost.
So with more people getting vaccinated, work is adjusting its mask policy. For those who can submit "proof" of full vaccination, a sticker will be placed on the id badge. Those individuals will be allowed to choose whether to continue wearing a mask or not. I will be getting the sticker on my id as fully vaccinated, but will continue to wear a mask. It's a frickin' warehouse! Plus, some of those not yet (or never to be) vaccinated, are still friends and the last thing I want to do is risk making anyone sick.
Some of our regular customers have been asking when we will take down the clear plastic barriers around the checkout counters so we did that today. It looks so much more open and nicer!
I was surprised to be the only person seeking a vaccine yesterday. The whole process took about an hour--44 minutes filling out paperwork and waiting around. One minute for the shot, and fifteen minutes to make sure I didn't drop dead. Never saw another soul. This area is well over 70% vaccinated, but really--no one?
When I went for my second shot I was the only one. It was in a pharmacy.
My work requires 100% vaccinated workers. Some workers chose not to get vaccinated, so they left the company. I am typically an anti-vaxxer but did decide to get this one. Lucky me I was able to take a new position when it was offered to me. Better hours, better pay, nice people who care about their employees, etc. win win in my book. Feel very blessed.
happystuff
7-1-21, 10:11am
Congrats on the new position, Greg. Glad it is working out.
it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Monster.com recently did a survey that found 95% of workers are considering changing jobs, with work from home being an important consideration. Supposedly many have spent their lockdown time contemplating their work and how they envision themselves working in the future. I can certainly understand. I had been working from home prior to covid for the better part of a year and by the time lockdowns started I was already aware that I preferred it to commuting to an office everyday, although I DO enjoy going to outside meetings and conferences from time to time, an aspect of my job that I have missed for the past 17 months. So I can certainly see how others, as they spent more than a year working remotely, might be coming to similar conclusions to mine.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/29/more-people-plan-to-quit-as-return-to-work-plans-go-into-effect-.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab
happystuff
7-9-21, 10:14am
So, it's done! Last night was my last at the warehouse! I will not miss the job, but will definitely miss several people. That was the best thing about the place - the people - and I hope they (management/those in charge) start doing a better job for the people that work there. I am heading out to see my mother and will start at the new job in a little over a week. Will post updates, but wanted to thank everyone for the support through all this - Thank you!!!
So, it's done! Last night was my last at the warehouse! I will not miss the job, but will definitely miss several people. That was the best thing about the place - the people - and I hope they (management/those in charge) start doing a better job for the people that work there. I am heading out to see my mother and will start at the new job in a little over a week. Will post updates, but wanted to thank everyone for the support through all this - Thank you!!!
Enjoy your time off before the new job starts.
So glad that experience is behind you! Have a great vacation and visit!
Greg and Happystuff--congratulations on your new jobs. So many people have found new, improved employment this year.
I'm with people who would work at home now that it's been proven workable. Between the time sink that is commuting and tedious office politics, there's no comparison in my mind.
ApatheticNoMore
7-9-21, 4:46pm
The problem is if it's remote work a few days a week, that's great, but then just like any job you still have to consider the commute. But it's just two days you say. Yea noone wants a nightmare commute for two days, and how bad can it get? Very. Maybe better a more doable commute for 5. And then the headache of job searching, and the random grab bag of never knowing what you will get in a new job (oh surprise, surprise, you have the boss from hell, didn't know that when you took the job did ya). I mean the pandemic proved to a lot of people what their employers really were. The music stopped and it was time to see who had a seat, luck of the draw when the draw comes due. Mine were decent. But I've been in touch with a recruiter and I don't even know why. Why am I even looking (yea, yea it's a perfect fit and they contacted me, still).
happystuff
7-11-21, 11:22am
Thanks again to all. Trip was uneventful and visit going well. I can feel myself relaxing.,lol.
On working from home, it's great if you have a job that allows for it let alone an employer who does. Many, many jobs simply aren't able to be done from home.
ApatheticNoMore
7-11-21, 1:21pm
Of course if those who can work from home at least part of the time do so, those who cant work from home commutes becomes less nighmarish with less cars on the road, plus less pollution. Win-win.
It's why I've never minded much when there were Federal holidays I didn't get, my commute sure was sweet those days.
I work for a Police Department. A lot of non-essential sections like fingerprinting for citizens were closed because of Covid. They recently opened back up a month or so ago. Some sections let their civilian employees work full or part-time from home. Not me! I work in the Property and Evidence Section processing all the incoming crime evidence so I was here every day during the pandemic. We had to wear masks if we went into the common areas like the lobby or main hallways so I was either in my office or took back hallways when I could. They also put plexi-glass up in front of a couple of desks and the place where Officers come to pick up items. We no longer have to wear masks when outside of our offices but the plexi-glass remains but I think it's more because nobody has come to remove them. We only had one employee in our office that wore her mask all day. The rest of us did not. I believe only a few Officers ended up getting Covid when the pandemic started but I don't think any had severe cases. Overall, work was pretty normal for me the entire time.
The popcorn machine is back as people proclaim, "Covid is over". I never hear about anyone testing positive anymore. We are in a good spot where I work (as well as where I live).
Got an email from the City Manager where I work saying masks will be back in City facilities. My boss said we won't have to wear them in the office (never have) but will need to wear them in the lobby. Lucky for me, I travel back hallways all day so I won't have to mask up. I have one co-worker that has been wearing her mask all day every day since Covid began. I can't imagine doing that.
I doubt a mask mandate will happen where I live unless you are unvaccinated.
iris lilies
7-30-21, 9:28am
I work for a Police Department. A lot of non-essential sections like fingerprinting for citizens were closed because of Covid. They recently opened back up a month or so ago. Some sections let their civilian employees work full or part-time from home. Not me! I work in the Property and Evidence Section processing all the incoming crime evidence so I was here every day during the pandemic. We had to wear masks if we went into the common areas like the lobby or main hallways so I was either in my office or took back hallways when I could. They also put plexi-glass up in front of a couple of desks and the place where Officers come to pick up items. We no longer have to wear masks when outside of our offices but the plexi-glass remains but I think it's more because nobody has come to remove them. We only had one employee in our office that wore her mask all day. The rest of us did not. I believe only a few Officers ended up getting Covid when the pandemic started but I don't think any had severe cases. Overall, work was pretty normal for me the entire time.
I think the plexiglass barriers are good in general to keep general germs from being spewed onto workers from the general public.
I think the plexiglass barriers are good in general to keep general germs from being spewed onto works from the general public.
We have bullet proof glass for that. :~)
Chicken lady
8-11-21, 9:35am
Here we go again.
I will be receiving online training on our covid safety protocols in the next few weeks.
short form - continued surface disinfection, continued open windows, continued noisy air purifier, 100% masks for everyone in the building - including preschool, physical distancing “as practical” (some of my classes are larger than last year and 6ft isn’t mathematically possible - we will also be allowed “short periods” of masked work with partners or small groups.)
no news on wether or not we will have continued not meeting my new coworkers or continued banning parents from the building and no conferences, but so far open house looks like it is still on.
Today we received instructions from corporate that non vaccinated people are supposed to start wearing masks again. It will be interesting to see if the three unvaccinated people at our location comply.
ToomuchStuff
8-17-21, 1:53pm
The last couple weeks have been a madhouse for me. Lots more work as one of our suppliers, cut 30% of their customers so far, due to shortages in help, as well as products. They have issues getting supplies and and then have warehouse and driver issues themselves.
I took that phone call, about 15 minutes after placing our order for the week. Handed the phone off to the other owner (still awaiting the estate settling before becoming one), and started looking at our backup places. Well, several of our backup places, no longer carry stuff we need (shortages as well). So it has been a mad scramble, finding supplies, dealing with those other businesses, competing for limited stock at other suppliers, etc.
It looked like I was going to be working the next 40 days straight with only a day "off" for my upcoming Jury duty.
Today we received instructions from corporate that non vaccinated people are supposed to start wearing masks again. It will be interesting to see if the three unvaccinated people at our location comply.
No one is complying. I think they are interpreting that they "should" wear them as a recommendation and that "required", "condition of employment" "must" would be the language needed to ensure the unvaccinated wear them.
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8-24-21, 7:57am
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It is getting hard to get office supplies. They used to come the next day, now who knows? If something wasn't in stock we were allowed to order and now back orders are not allowed. We are told to try ordering it later as "you cannot order this item at this time".
We are having firefighters, EMTs, and paramedics resign their positions out of disgust.
Teacher Terry
8-26-21, 6:14pm
That’s really bad news Bae. This country is literally wearing out the frontline workers such as the ones you describe as well as medical workers.
happystuff
8-26-21, 6:25pm
bae, what can... say... someone like me do to help these folks? Forgetting politics and mandates and plain old foolishness... is there anything that someone like me can do for the various front line workers to let them know they are appreciated, respected, admired, etc? I verbally express my thanks whenever I see a fireman, nurse, doctor, paramedic, etc., but is there more at an individual/personal level?
Medical personnel are struggling because for years they limited the number of people allowed in their profession to keep their wages high. An example of this is the small number of slots in American medical schools compared to demand.
Medical personnel are struggling because for years they limited the number of people allowed in their profession to keep their wages high. An example of this is the small number of slots in American medical schools compared to demand.
Great Crom, the nonsense never ends.
Medical personnel are struggling because for years they limited the number of people allowed in their profession to keep their wages high. An example of this is the small number of slots in American medical schools compared to demand.
I mean this in a sincere question ? Are you crazy ?
Here are some articles on doctor shortages which predate the pandemic.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/articles/2018-12-03/why-its-hard-to-get-into-medical-school-despite-doctor-shortages
https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/04/13/were-short-on-healthcare-workers-why-doesnt-the-u-s-just-make-more-doctors/
This has been an ongoing issue and you cannot blame covid. Reasons given include caps on residencies, an aging population, retiring physicians, and not enough medical schools given the growing US population.
We have a white board with announcements for customers and someone wrote "Project Veritas" on it. One of the guys erased it.
Don't want to go to your offsite meetings? Don't get vaccinated and you are excused. Two managers in my region have gotten out of attending. I always say Vaccination Has Its Privileges (or should, when it comes to wearing masks) but apparently Not Being Vaccinated Has Its Privileges as well.
Today I finally took a step towards normal. For the first time in 18 months I got together for lunch with an insurance broker that places business with me. It was so nice to leave my home office for the first time since covid started for a work related reason.
Next week I dive off the deep end. I’m going to a conference down in Santa Monica and will have meetings with at least a couple dozen people over the course of 2 1/2 days. Everyone has to be vaxxed or tested and I’m planning most of my meetings at the outdoor bar at the conference hotel and a couple of nearby restaurants that also have big outside areas. Hopefully the worst health consequence will be that I gain a couple of pounds.
A vaccinated coworker of mine doesn't believe in mandates and said if OSHA issues it and our company complies he will quit. He is already collecting details on things like getting on his wife's health insurance.
I said the company should set up some wholly owned subsidiaries each with less than 100 employees.
mschrisgo2
10-9-21, 9:30pm
I learned today that a neighbor who has worked as a phlebotomist for one of the big national lab corporations, is on administrative leave because she’s refusing to get the covid19 vaccines. Apparently she thinks she already had the virus- refused testing, too- and it was “ no big deal.” SMH
A vaccinated coworker of mine doesn't believe in mandates and said if OSHA issues it and our company complies he will quit. He is already collecting details on things like getting on his wife's health insurance.
I said the company should set up some wholly owned subsidiaries each with less than 100 employees.
Does your vaccinated coworker have children? I hope he didn’t ever send them to school since schools also have vaccine mandates.
Does your vaccinated coworker have children? I hope he didn’t ever send them to school since schools also have vaccine mandates.
His children are grown.
And people evolve politically. There were times when Native Americans, women, blacks, people who did not own property, the disabled, those who wanted to unionize, LBGTQ folk, pacifists, Communists, Japanese-Americans, the Irish, and many others did not have rights. In many cases the excuse for depriving them of their rights was public safety. I would hope we continue to move in the direction of greater freedom.
So we should have the freedumb to create new epidemics of mostly eradicated diseases? Thank goodness your version of freedom is not held by the majority of Americans. You all would make this a really shitty place to live.
I wonder if I can find a small fire department to work at, where I don't have to wear 80 pounds of gear and a self contained breathing apparatus just to do my job. Those safety-toed fire-resistant boots are uncomfortable too, and can cause trench foot.
Maybe someone will let me wear flip flops and a Hawaiian shirt?
And don't get me started on all the ongoing vaccinations I have to have, and those stupid OSHA work rules.
Fascists.
At work we can tell when someone comes in and they're wearing flipflops they aren't a contractor, but unless prohibited by law, or for a part they could really hurt themselves trying to install, we sell it to them. It's a free country and Home Depot disrupted the wholesale or no sale paradigm. So people are more free to do their own home repairs now. Increasing freedom is - or should be - the arc of history.
Good friend of mine has worked in the trades for a large hospital group here for something like 15 years. He has some condition (can't remember what it is) that his doctor says would be triggered and become much worse if he got the vax. He submitted a medical exemption, complete with documentation from his doctor and he is being fired because he can't get the shot. He has several coworkers who've submitted valid medical exemptions, as well, and they are also being fired. I'm being told that medical exemptions are being rejected across the board.
WTF.
I was forced for years to wear close-toed shoes on the job--a recipe for cramped toes and fungus. Oh, how I suffered!
Pantyhose was the worst for me.
I was forced for years to wear close-toed shoes on the job--a recipe for cramped toes and fungus. Oh, how I suffered!
Free the feet! End toe tyranny today!
rosarugosa
10-10-21, 5:19pm
Pantyhose sucks.
Tradd, that actually makes sense to me. I think healthcare settings need to think about the safety of their patients first. I do think someone in that situation should be able to collect unemployment though, if the employee has a valid medical reason not to get vaccinated.
happystuff
10-10-21, 5:41pm
Pantyhose sucks.
Tradd, that actually makes sense to me. I think healthcare settings need to think about the safety of their patients first. I do think someone in that situation should be able to collect unemployment though, if the employee has a valid medical reason not to get vaccinated.
I have been told by several "younger" (and more fashion-conscious) people than myself, that pantyhose are "so not in fashion" any longer. Bare legs or leggings are the way to go now. Following that advice, the last wedding I went to as a guest - no pantyhose! It was wonderful! :D
Friend has zilch patient contact. He’s a plumber.
Teacher Terry
10-11-21, 12:54am
Tradd, I think no exception is stupid considering he has no patient contact.
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The boss found a venue for our holiday party in a mask free town. I am so happy!
Just got an email that our US and German offices are closing back down because several people in multiple offices have caught covid in the past two weeks. Tentative reopening January 10th.
Staffing continues to be a challenge as people have to stay home to supposedly protect low risk people from a virus everyone is going to get anyways.
A new hire scheduled to start money backed out on us because she got more money elsewhere.
One guy got so frustrated last week with the workload he started yelling and cursing and ran out the door and disappeared for two hours. Another didn't show up for work for a day and a half because he got arrested but no disciplinary action was taken. We can't afford to let anyone go.
Staffing continues to be a challenge as people have to stay home to supposedly protect low risk people from a virus everyone is going to get anyways.
A new hire scheduled to start money backed out on us because she got more money elsewhere.
One guy got so frustrated last week with the workload he started yelling and cursing and ran out the door and disappeared for two hours. Another didn't show up for work for a day and a half because he got arrested but no disciplinary action was taken. We can't afford to let anyone go.
Obliviously, you didn't have anyone your life to teach to " read the room" AKA manners. Seriously, you need to get yourself in check. If you were a horse, you would have had a lip chain put on you and you would be shanked backwards around the arena. I will let you go Google what that means. Maybe it will distract you from your obsession.
Fun Horse Fact Of The Day : A Paint horse (American Paint Horse Assocation AKA APHA) can be a Pinto. ( PtHA) but not all Pintos can be registered as a Paint (APHA). As always... go ahead and challenge/ correct me. You. Will Lose.
Obliviously, you didn't have anyone your life to teach to " read the room" AKA manners. Seriously, you need to get yourself in check. If you were a horse, you would have had a lip chain put on you and you would be shanked backwards around the arena. I will let you go Google what that means. Maybe it will distract you from your obsession.
Fun Horse Fact Of The Day : A Paint horse (American Paint Horse Assocation AKA APHA) can be a Pinto. ( PtHA) but not all Pintos can be registered as a Paint (APHA). As always... go ahead and challenge/ correct me. You. Will Lose.
There should be an "in" before "your life" and no space before "read". Obviously you didn't have anyone in your life to teach you grammar, spacing or punctuation. I have tried repeatedly but you are incorrigible.
It's sad that you condone torturing animals. I hope the practice you describe is outlawed soon.
I read with interest about new laws going into effect the first of this year and there were several in New Hampshire to prevent animal cruelty as well as one in Massachusetts to improve living conditions for chickens. Thankfully not everyone is as mean as you.
rosarugosa
1-14-22, 6:55am
Staffing continues to be a challenge as people have to stay home to supposedly protect low risk people from a virus everyone is going to get anyways.
A new hire scheduled to start money backed out on us because she got more money elsewhere.
One guy got so frustrated last week with the workload he started yelling and cursing and ran out the door and disappeared for two hours. Another didn't show up for work for a day and a half because he got arrested but no disciplinary action was taken. We can't afford to let anyone go.
Let she who has no typos in her own posts cast the first stone.
One of the key reasons for trying to slow the roll of omicron is to not overwhelm hospitals. When they get overwhelmed people who wouldn’t otherwise die die. People who lack empathy for others probably will never understand this.
https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2022/01/04/no-icu-beds-left-massachusetts-hospitals-are-maxed-out-as-covid-continues-to-surge
Let she who has no typos in her own posts cast the first stone.
I go back and correct mine, and I don't bristle if someone points them out. And I don't torture animals either.
One of the key reasons for trying to slow the roll of omicron is to not overwhelm hospitals. When they get overwhelmed people who wouldn’t otherwise die die. People who lack empathy for others probably will never understand this.
https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2022/01/04/no-icu-beds-left-massachusetts-hospitals-are-maxed-out-as-covid-continues-to-surge
Wouldn't be a problem if we hadn't fired a bunch of medical personnel for refusing to get vaccinated.
Wouldn't be a problem if we hadn't fired a bunch of medical personnel for refusing to get vaccinated.
Wrong.
UMass Memorial Health System, the largest in the state, lost 200 workers to the mandate out of just over 14,000. Mass General Brigham lost .7%. I assume most other systems have similar stats, which would not appreciably affect their ability to provide services.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/12/06/metro/about-200-umass-memorial-health-workers-fired-not-getting-vaccinated-against-covid-19/
ApatheticNoMore
1-14-22, 5:25pm
One of the key reasons for trying to slow the roll of omicron is to not overwhelm hospitals. When they get overwhelmed people who wouldn’t otherwise die die. People who lack empathy for others probably will never understand this.
yea but it's really on bad leadership, not people who lack empathy (and the nature of the virus, well yes the thing is crazy contagious so maybe there are limits to how much it can be slowed). So what should they have done hard lockdowns? Well that would be hard at this point, so maybe, but I'm not necessarily saying that, but they didn't even verbally discourage gatherings during the holidays, and so of course there was a massive holiday surge. They aren't even stopping mega events.
UMass Memorial Health System, the largest in the state, lost 200 workers to the mandate out of just over 14,000. Mass General Brigham lost .7%. I assume most other systems have similar stats, which would not appreciably affect their ability to provide services.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/12/06/metro/about-200-umass-memorial-health-workers-fired-not-getting-vaccinated-against-covid-19/
Yes it makes a different. The St Vincent's nurses strike took a little over 100 beds out of service and was a real blow. 200 staff lost is also a real blow - not all direct care providers, but every one of those counts these days. The National Guard can't do it all - they have been busy doing everything from driving school buses to guarding prison inmates.
Our city, Indianapolis, is acting as if there is no virus. Full conventions, huge sporting events, 50% vaccination rate, 30% positivity rate, etc. I despair.....................
Our city, Indianapolis, is acting as if there is no virus. Full conventions, huge sporting events, 50% vaccination rate, 30% positivity rate, etc. I despair.....................
I wonder about some of these stats places report. Becker's Hospital Review today listed four places with 100% positivity rates - Colorado, DC, Kansas and Pennsylvania. Really? Are they sure it's not picking up other viruses?
I wonder about some of these stats places report. Becker's Hospital Review today listed four places with 100% positivity rates - Colorado, DC, Kansas and Pennsylvania. Really? Are they sure it's not picking up other viruses?
I don't know anything about Becker, but our department of health says our state's recent 7 day positivity rate is about 25%, which is down slightly. Maybe they are referring to some other statistic, although 25% is nothing to scoff at.
I don't know anything about Becker, but our department of health says our state's recent 7 day positivity rate is about 25%, which is down slightly. Maybe they are referring to some other statistic, although 25% is nothing to scoff at.
Becker reports my state's at what I see on the state website. I believe they aggregate data from state departments of health, which makes me wonder about some of these states.
Oh, and Indianapolis is now having severe hospital diversion issues, ambulance issues, no tests available, etc.
WA State just issued an emergency order to temporarily restrict non-urgent health care services, procedures and surgeries that are performed in hospitals, as part of a package of measures taken to address the current COVID-related state of crisis in hospitals.
https://www.governor.wa.gov/sites/default/files/proclamations/20-24.3%20-%20Restrictions%20On%20Non-Urgent%20Medical%20Procedures%20%28tmp%29.pdf?utm_ medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
Probably we should have delayed school reopening after the holidays for a couple of weeks if we wanted to slow omicron down. Yes, that would have presented a childcare headache for millions of families but would it have been worse than the problem of overwhelmed healthcare systems?
There should be an "in" before "your life" and no space before "read". Obviously you didn't have anyone in your life to teach you grammar, spacing or punctuation. I have tried repeatedly but you are incorrigible.
It's sad that you condone torturing animals. I hope the practice you describe is outlawed soon.
I read with interest about new laws going into effect the first of this year and there were several in New Hampshire to prevent animal cruelty as well as one in Massachusetts to improve living conditions for chickens. Thankfully not everyone is as mean as you.
Jeppy, I told you that corrections need to be made in red. a lip chain is not cruel when used correctly. It's used all the time as a restraint.
WA State just issued an emergency order to temporarily restrict non-urgent health care services, procedures and surgeries that are performed in hospitals, as part of a package of measures taken to address the current COVID-related state of crisis in hospitals.
https://www.governor.wa.gov/sites/default/files/proclamations/20-24.3%20-%20Restrictions%20On%20Non-Urgent%20Medical%20Procedures%20%28tmp%29.pdf?utm_ medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
I am scheduled for surgery next week and read through the proclamation carefully wondering if my state might follow suit. Mine is probably essential vs. non-essential though it could be borderline. However, I proclaim a further pox on those who have not followed common safe guidelines and put others of us at risk.
Jeppy, I told you that corrections need to be made in red. a lip chain is not cruel when used correctly. It's used all the time as a restraint.
Your second sentence should start with a capital letter. I wish someone would put a lip restraint in you. Then we would see how cruel you think it is. It is even crueler than masks.
I am scheduled for surgery next week and read through the proclamation carefully wondering if my state might follow suit. Mine is probably essential vs. non-essential though it could be borderline. However, I proclaim a further pox on those who have not followed common safe guidelines and put others of us at risk.
My dad is supposed to get knee surgery and my state has reduced capacity so they have him scheduled for the end of the month. Cases are already falling and wastewater covid testing shows precipitous drops. So even if your surgery is delayed it will not be for long as omicron moves fast. He was given the option of being inpatient or outpatient and chose out. Since that does not tie up a hospital bed for as long it got him higher up on the list - something to think about if that is an option in your case.
rosarugosa
1-15-22, 6:50am
Wishing you the best with your surgery, Rogar.
Thanks RR. I had a relatively large melanoma removed from my cheek last week and currently have a fabric patch sewed over the wound. My surgery is patch removal, clean up, and reconstruction. If this were to be delayed I could picture all sorts of things developing under the patch, possibly from reading too many sci-fi books- :). The hospital staff is overwhelmed and scheduling has been very difficult.
A common risk of our high elevation cities and generous sunshine, but a reminder for all to use sunscreen and wear protective clothing.
happystuff
1-15-22, 10:35am
Good luck with the patch removal, etc. Rogar. And heal quickly!!!
A lot of medical procedures are being delayed or canceled due to vaccine-recalcitrant people. As bae noted--even here, where people are mostly protected. I'm glad you got treatment promptly. Hope your follow-up operation goes smoothly!
early morning
1-15-22, 1:47pm
Hope things are well with you Rogar! I feel for people who need care and can't get it - mostly due to anti-vaxxers and mask avoiders. I had a melanoma removed from just under my eye on the 7th and was worried about the surgery being cancelled. But my oncologist assured me surgery was "necessary" (they put me under because it was so close to my eye). After that, I wasn't sure if it being necessary, and thus not cancelled, made me feel better, or worse about it!! But it's done, tests of surrounding tissue are clear, and the stitches came out yesterday at the plastic surgeon's office, no mention of cancelling future appointments, etc. I am very relieved. I hope your outcome is a very good one!! When most of my skin damage occurred, I had never heard of sunscreen! I didn't like the sun, I have very fair skin and burn easily - but didn't really try to avoid it much, either. Many of my generation are now paying the price for sun-worshipping, while I still have friends who use tanning beds - vanity, vanity.
Hope things are well with you Rogar! I feel for people who need care and can't get it - mostly due to anti-vaxxers and mask avoiders. I had a melanoma removed from just under my eye on the 7th and was worried about the surgery being cancelled. But my oncologist assured me surgery was "necessary" (they put me under because it was so close to my eye). After that, I wasn't sure if it being necessary, and thus not cancelled, made me feel better, or worse about it!! But it's done, tests of surrounding tissue are clear, and the stitches came out yesterday at the plastic surgeon's office, no mention of cancelling future appointments, etc. I am very relieved. I hope your outcome is a very good one!! When most of my skin damage occurred, I had never heard of sunscreen! I didn't like the sun, I have very fair skin and burn easily - but didn't really try to avoid it much, either. Many of my generation are now paying the price for sun-worshipping, while I still have friends who use tanning beds - vanity, vanity.
You are falsely disparaging people who do not wear masks. There is a lot of data showing correlation between a lack of vaccination and severe covid outcomes. There is zero data showing a correlation between lack of mask wearing and serious covid outcomes. In fact, many public health officials have said recently, including Dr. Fauci who some of you here idolize, that almost all Americans will get covid. They have also said in so many words that masks that are not N95 or KN95 do nothing. As a result the Biden administration is planning to send out high quality masks to all Americans. I think by then omicron will have already finished its surge, typical for his slow response on things including test kits.
I get that you're unhappy you are dealing with surgery, but lying about masks won't solve anything. If you want to blame someone try Biden who said no one had any idea a new variant would arise though everyone had told him. He is either dishonest or senile or both. Then he forced hospitals getting Medicaid or Medicare funds to fire unvaccinated employees leaving them short staffed. I predict he will be a one term president. I didn't think anyone could make Trump look good in comparison, but I was wrong.
early morning
1-15-22, 2:19pm
*sigh*
Hope things are well with you Rogar! I feel for people who need care and can't get it - mostly due to anti-vaxxers and mask avoiders. I had a melanoma removed from just under my eye on the 7th and was worried about the surgery being cancelled. But my oncologist assured me surgery was "necessary" ...
Thanks for the encouragement and glad things went well for you. I'll breath a sigh of relief (hopefully) when I have the surrounding tissue and lymph results. I've always been an outdoors person, but lax about sunscreen or protective clothing until the last couple of decades. These days I can't imagine people using tanning beds. Now I know.
Yppej, your lack of veracity and rectitude precedes you.
Yppej, your lack of veracity and rectitude precedes you.
I guess my truths are inconvenient to you. Maybe you could try denying climate change next.
That increase in skin cancer couldn't be from the thinning ozone layer could it? Must be the evil tanning beds.
iris lilies
1-15-22, 4:11pm
Here, I interpret faux deep tans as a class thing, and it ain’t the upper classes who get them.
frugal-one
1-15-22, 4:14pm
There are some people who claim “their” truths… they are the ONLY ones who believe them.
Didn't I just read about the ozone layer is now healed due to the needed changes to make it happen were enacted and employed. I was so pleased to read that good policies can be developed and followed. I figure that the human race will develop and follow the policies necessary to manage climate change, too.
happystuff
1-15-22, 5:14pm
Didn't I just read about the ozone layer is now healed due to the needed changes to make it happen were enacted and employed. I was so pleased to read that good policies can be developed and followed. I figure that the human race will develop and follow the policies necessary to manage climate change, too.
I read the same thing and am just as hopeful with climate change. But, realistically, I think there will be a lot of suffering, irreversible changes and devastation before the bulk of the human race wakes up and steps up. I think there is still too much selfishness and too many compassionate-less people. But, again, I have hope!
Given the world's response to Covid, I have very little hope action will be taken in time to prevent serious fallout from climate change.
Given the world's response to Covid, I have very little hope action will be taken in time to prevent serious fallout from climate change.
I agree. Not just sad--alarming.
happystuff
1-15-22, 5:58pm
Given the world's response to Covid, I have very little hope action will be taken in time to prevent serious fallout from climate change.
As I said, realistically, I believe you are right.
Given the world's response to Covid, I have very little hope action will be taken in time to prevent serious fallout from climate change.
Maybe we should put New Zealand in charge of solving climate change.
boss mare
1-16-22, 10:38pm
You are falsely disparaging people who do not wear masks. There is a lot of data showing correlation between a lack of vaccination and severe covid outcomes. There is zero data showing a correlation between lack of mask wearing and serious covid outcomes. In fact, many public health officials have said recently, including Dr. Fauci who some of you here idolize, that almost all Americans will get covid. They have also said in so many words that masks that are not N95 or KN95 do nothing. As a result the Biden administration is planning to send out high quality masks to all Americans. I think by then omicron will have already finished its surge, typical for his slow response on things including test kits.
I get that you're unhappy you are dealing with surgery, but lying about masks won't solve anything. If you want to blame someone try Biden who said no one had any idea a new variant would arise though everyone had told him. He is either dishonest or senile or both. Then he forced hospitals getting Medicaid or Medicare funds to fire unvaccinated employees leaving them short staffed. I predict he will be a one term president. I didn't think anyone could make Trump look good in comparison, but I was wrong.
Honey … You are being the southend of a northbound horse.
Honey …
Your term of endearment is not appreciated. I am a straight woman and am not interested in you.
boss mare
1-17-22, 11:50am
Your term of endearment is not appreciated. I am a straight woman and am not interested in you.
You acting like a horses’s azz has absolutely nothing to do with your sexual preferences . My statement went right over your head. Maybe that’s a sign you’re too deep down the rabbit hole. Stop and go re-read what I wrote very carefully
There should be an "in" before "your life" and no space before "read". Obviously you didn't have anyone in your life to teach you grammar, spacing or punctuation. I have tried repeatedly but you are incorrigible.
It's sad that you condone torturing animals. I hope the practice you describe is outlawed soon.
I read with interest about new laws going into effect the first of this year and there were several in New Hampshire to prevent animal cruelty as well as one in Massachusetts to improve living conditions for chickens. Thankfully not everyone is as mean as you.
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Using a lip chain to retrain for medical reasons or rehabilitate and/ or stop a very dangerous habit from forming is not abusive. Do you really want to know what happens to horses that become dangerous to people or themselves that cannot be rehabilitated? If they are lucky... a vet comes out and they get a sedative and "The Pink Cocktail" or an excellent marksman takes care of it. If they are unlucky... they go on to another trainer's "program". Or... They get a one-way trip to Mexico. I will let you Google You Tube " Mexico horse slaughter" for that... Tell me how wonderful that video is. I will await your response to those horrible videos. Pro Tip: don't watch while you are eating or feeling venerable.
I would put a link but they are beyond graphic and would probably get me banned
And while you are on You Tube... Google Big Lick Horses
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Using a lip chain to retrain for medical reasons or rehabilitate and/ or stop a very dangerous habit from forming is not abusive. Do you really want to know what happens to horses that become dangerous to people or themselves that cannot be rehabilitated? If they are lucky... a vet comes out and they get a sedative and "The Pink Cocktail" or an excellent marksman takes care of it. If they are unlucky... they go on to another trainer's "program". Or... They get a one-way trip to Mexico. I will let you Google You Tube " Mexico horse slaughter" for that... Tell me how wonderful that video is. I will await your response to those horrible videos. Pro Tip: don't watch while you are eating or feeling venerable.
I would put a link but they are beyond graphic and would probably get me banned
And while you are on You Tube... Google Big Lick Horses
There should not be a space after /.
Marksman is a sexist word - use a gender neutral alternative.
There should not be a space between " and Mexico.
The last two sentences should end with periods.
YouTube is all one word.
There are always alternatives to cruelty. If you changed up the language you would have fit right in a couple hundred years ago -
"Using chains ... is not abusive. Do you really want to know what happens to slaves who become dangerous to owners or themselves and cannot be rehabilitated? If they are lucky ... they get a sedative. If they are unlucky they get a one-way trip down the river to the Deep South."
Food for thought on Martin Luther King Day.
happystuff
1-17-22, 8:30pm
Thanks again for sharing the horse info/tips, boss mare. Very interesting (and sad) stuff.
Because of the up-tick in cases at work, a lot of offices have gone back to tele-working and being closed to the public. Like before, my office is up and running as usual. I am really shocked with 5 full time employees and having random people working in here temporarily as well as dealing with citizens and people from other offices that no one in my office has gotten Covid.
Because of the up-tick in cases at work, a lot of offices have gone back to tele-working and being closed to the public. Like before, my office is up and running as usual. I am really shocked with 5 full time employees and having random people working in here temporarily as well as dealing with citizens and people from other offices that no one in my office has gotten Covid.
You aren't testing enough. You need to test every day until the imperfect tests detect something that they record as covid. Then you can have 5 or 10 days off with pay. You obviously don't know how the game is played!
boss mare
1-23-22, 12:46am
There should not be a space after /.
Marksman is a sexist word - use a gender neutral alternative.
There should not be a space between " and Mexico.
The last two sentences should end with periods.
YouTube is all one word.
There are always alternatives to cruelty. If you changed up the language you would have fit right in a couple hundred years ago -
"Using chains ... is not abusive. Do you really want to know what happens to slaves who become dangerous to owners or themselves and cannot be rehabilitated? If they are lucky ... they get a sedative. If they are unlucky they get a one-way trip down the river to the Deep South."
Food for thought on Martin Luther King Day.
Wow what ozone expedition are you on? Did you break your arm for that reach?
Speaking of a trip south, did you google big lick horses? If not, Google Shelbyville and Big Lick Horses if you want to see torture, chains and the South. The TWEBA biggest show is in Shelbyville Tn.
And if you want to see what "another trainers program " looks like. Google Shirley Roth and Kissin The Girls. Oh... and Also Google " On the Cart with Compton and Shirley Roth" She is suspended from every equine organization there is. Oh, and BTW, she's in in the south too. So, let's have a lively discussion on the horse industry and The South. And Slavery. I will look forward to it. Because You. Will. Lose.
boss mare
1-23-22, 12:47am
You are welcome... The horse world does have a very dark side.
Wow what ozone expedition are you on? Did you break your arm for that reach?
Speaking of a trip south, did you google big lick horses? If not, Google Shelbyville and Big Lick Horses if you want to see torture, chains and the South. The TWEBA biggest show is in Shelbyville Tn.
And if you want to see what "another trainers program " looks like. Google Shirley Roth and Kissin The Girls. Oh... and Also Google " On the Cart with Compton and Shirley Roth" She is suspended from every equine organization there is. Oh, and BTW, she's in in the south too. So, let's have a lively discussion on the horse industry and The South. And Slavery. I will look forward to it. Because You. Will. Lose.
There should not be a space between program and ".
First you call me honey, now you are writing about kissing girls. I do not swing that way and I am not interested in you.
Also should not be capitalized.
There should be a period after "Roth".
"And slavery" is a sentence fragment, as are the last three "sentences" in your post.
There should not be a space between program and ".
First you call me honey, now you are writing about kissing girls. I do not swing that way and I am not interested in you.
Also should not be capitalized.
There should be a period after "Roth".
"And slavery" is a sentence fragment, as are the last three "sentences" in your post.
Kissin the Girls is the name of the stallion that was abused. That is his registered name with the AQHA. It has absolutely nothing to do with you. Since you love to look stuff up, go look him up.
Chicken lady
1-23-22, 10:09pm
Made an exception and did not read the preceding posts this time. Apologies if that makes my post appear random.
as of Friday we were still open in person. We are offering virtual access to students we have put in quarantine. Most of them are actually sick and not opting in. As of Friday we were also out of competent subs and short on teachers. I spent the first fifteen minutes of one class searching the building for six year olds who had been turned loose in the halls (of a three story grade pre-k-12 building containing play spaces and their siblings) by a sub who was supposed to divide them into groups to be walked to class but instead said “ok, you guys can go” 5 minutes before classes changed.
I have 14 distinct classes. Also as of Friday the last two students - vaxxed or not in one class were sent home sick. The entire class has now tested positive for covid at some point.
happystuff
1-23-22, 10:13pm
chicken lady - Oh, my! Working in a school, I can appreciate what you are going through. All I can do is offer up prayers and wishes of well-being to you and all of those in the school.
You aren't testing enough. You need to test every day until the imperfect tests detect something that they record as covid. Then you can have 5 or 10 days off with pay. You obviously don't know how the game is played!
Oh, I understand far too well. Just not up to playing. I would much prefer two of my co-workers play that game and I'll keep coming in so I don't have to deal with them.
Chicken Lady, we know one high school teacher who just put in her retirement papers, and she does not look old enough to retire. I cannot imagine what the schools are dealing with right now.
In our area, they are pleading for adults/parents to get qualified to sub. And Bus Drivers are the most critical need. So many of ours were older workers. We are dealing with schools open and schools closed depending on how many workers are available any one day.
There’s one person in my office was has still been working from home. I’m not sure exactly why. She’s in the office for a meeting today. Always wears a mask when she’s here. I work with her closely on one customer. She wouldn’t even say hello to anyone who greeted her. Just went straight to supervisor and they went into a meeting. Hope she’s not quitting. That would mean more crap on my desk.
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