Questions about National Guard duty

[iris lilies]

I have to ask you guys this question and not people I know in real life. For reasons. And I think you all have pretty good experience here, and may have answers.

Someone in my neighborhood is rumored to be a member of the National Guard. The information is 75% likely to be true. I don’t know if he’s a current member or if he is a former member because I don’t know how long are periods of duty.

I want to find out if he’s a member of the National Guard in Missouri. That should be a public record, right?


OK now for you gun experts: The longish gun shown in this video—would that be a Guard issued firearm?It doesn’t seem long enough to me to be a rifle but I know next to nothing about guns.

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[Tradd]

I can't see the photo well enough to really well.

[iris lilies]

The full video is here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fV0Ybr2NGbc&feature=youtu.be

the longish gun shows up around 1:20.

[Tradd]

That definitely doesn’t look like something that would be issued by the NG.

[bae]

I was unaware that the NG “issued” weapons for home use. Perhaps this is Switzerland?

[iris lilies]

I was unaware that the NG “issued” weapons for home use. Perhaps this is Switzerland?
I dont know, that’s why I ‘m asking the question.

You mean, Everyone in the National Guard leave their guns in a locker? Or it’s a generic gun that they turn back in when their weekend duty is over? I really don’t know how the firearms work.

edited to add: yes, I AM thinking of Switzerland! But I Want to know how it works in the state of Missouri, USA.

[iris lilies]

What about my assumption that it’s a public record who is enroll the National Guard? Surely I can be able to see if this guy is really in, right?

[bae]

Well, to my knowledge, the National Guard doesn't allow you to bring your toys home. That rifle isn't the sort issued anyways.

As to membership in the armed forces being public record, I suspect they don't, for security reasons, provide that information widely.

But, what are you really looking for here?

[Alan]

You mean, Everyone in the National Guard leave their guns in a locker? Or it’s a generic gun that they turn back in when they’re weekend duty is over? I really don’t know how the firearms work.

Weapons are generally kept in an secure armory and checked out when needed. I cannot imagine a National Guard member being allowed to take a weapon home with him.

An ancedote about military weapons: At the end of the Vietnam war the US Air Force began transitioning their Security Police forces from a jungle based combat training to a desert based combat training as the newly formed OPEC was determined to be a potential threat to US stability. I was in the second training class as it was determined by persons unknown that desert combat training might be beneficial for me at my second duty station, Alaska.
During my 6 weeks in the middle of nowhere Texas for the class we spent most of our time trying to find our lunches and night-time camp sites using a compass and a set of coordinates, all the while either avoiding attacks along the way or setting up our own attacks on other class groups. We were all carrying automatic weapons loaded with blanks.
Near the end of the training, a member of one of our squads came up missing which prompted the rest of us to spend the entire night searching for his weapon. No one was particularly worried about the Airman, but that M-16 was another story.

What about my assumption that it’s a public record who is enroll the National Guard? Surely I can be able to see if this guy is really in, right?I'm not so sure about that. The National Archives maintains a database of all service members, including National Guard, and will share those records with the service member or their immediate family if requested. I believe that as a rule, members of the general public are not entitled to access those records.

[iris lilies]

Well, to my knowledge, the National Guard doesn't allow you to bring your toys home. That rifle isn't the sort issued anyways.

As to membership in the armed forces being public record, I suspect they don't, for security reasons, provide that information widely.

But, what are you really looking for here?

I want to know if the guy in the dreds who’s a neighbor of ours is really in the National Guard as he’s telling people he is/was. I don’t think he’s old enough for it to be a “was” situation, So if he is in National Guard it would be a current situation.

He’s causing all kinds of trouble in our neighborhood and I’m hoping for some maturity to kick in within the next couple of years because I suspect he’s going to be here for a while.

[iris lilies]

Weapons are generally kept in an secure armory and checked out when needed. I cannot imagine a National Guard member being allowed to take a weapon home with him.

An ancedote about military weapons: At the end of the Vietnam war the US Air Force began transitioning their Security Police forces from a jungle based combat training to a desert based combat training as the newly formed OPEC was determined to be a potential threat to US stability. I was in the second training class as it was determined by persons unknown that desert combat training might be beneficial for me at my second duty station, Alaska.
During my 6 weeks in the middle of nowhere Texas for the class we spent most of our time trying to find our lunches and night-time camp sites using a compass and a set of coordinates, all the while either avoiding attacks along the way or setting up our own attacks on other class groups. We were all carrying automatic weapons loaded with blanks.
Near the end of the training, a member of one of our squads came up missing which prompted the rest of us to spend the entire night searching for his weapon. No one was particularly worried about the Airman, but that M-16 was another story.
I'm not so sure about that. The National Archives maintains a database of all service members, including National Guard, and will share those records with the service member or their immediate family if requested. I believe that as a rule, members of the general public are not entitled to access those records.

ok, thanks for this!

[LDAHL]

I never understood the attraction of gun- fondling or this sort of gun porn we see here.

[iris lilies]

I never understood the attraction of gun- fondling or this sort of gun porn we see here.
It looks like they are going to shoot off their d*cks a couple of times. I know they are being ridiculous and exaggerated, that’s the point of the video, but yeah. This is what my neighbors do for fun.You have no idea the number of police calls and disruption he’s brought to his block which is, fortunately, some blocks away from me.Next door neighbors put their house up for sale and moved because of him.

Latest problem is his dogs are running all over the neighborhood constantly. They will be hit by cars. I think first one will get pregnant and produce a passle of puppies which will of course get hit by cars.

[ToomuchStuff]

I am not aware of enlistment being public information. You might want to call your local armory (called that, because that is where weapon's are stored) and ask.
Also I cannot tell if those pistols in the video, are real, or airsoft. (my local gunstore had an airsoft .45 on the wall, similar to the one at the start of the video, the ATF had them pull it off to inspect it, thinking it was real)
The other at 1:20, again, may or may not be a real firearm. (video is no where near clear enough for that determination)
What I could see, was that the lower section of the pistol (and it is a pistol, not a rifle), appears that it could be an AR lower that uses Glock magazines, or it could be a piece of aluminum, commonly referred to as an 80% lower, used as a prop (could see no trigger).
Either way, neither of those are Missouri national guard issued firearms.

[iris lilies]

I am not aware of enlistment being public information. You might want to call your local armory (called that, because that is where weapon's are stored) and ask.
Also I cannot tell if those pistols in the video, are real, or airsoft. (my local gunstore had an airsoft .45 on the wall, similar to the one at the start of the video, the ATF had them pull it off to inspect it, thinking it was real)
The other at 1:20, again, may or may not be a real firearm. (video is no where near clear enough for that determination)
What I could see, was that the lower section of the pistol (and it is a pistol, not a rifle), appears that it could be an AR lower that uses Glock magazines, or it could be a piece of aluminum, commonly referred to as an 80% lower, used as a prop (could see no trigger).
Either way, neither of those are Missouri national guard issued firearms.

ok, thanks!

[LDAHL]

It looks like they are going to shoot off their d*cks a couple of times. I know they are being ridiculous and exaggerated, that’s the point of the video, but yeah. This is what my neighbors do for fun.You have no idea the number of police calls and disruption he’s brought to his block which is, fortunately, some blocks away from me.Next door neighbors put their house up for sale and moved because of him.

Latest problem is his dogs are running all over the neighborhood constantly. They will be hit by cars. I think first one will get pregnant and produce a passle of puppies which will of course get hit by cars.

Wow. My unruly neighbors sometimes shovel my sidewalks without my permission. I only see guns during deer season.

[iris lily]

Wow. My unruly neighbors sometimes shovel my sidewalks without my permission. I only see guns during deer season.

On a sunny day last spring he spread out his gun cleaning equipment in his front sidewalk to taunt and upset the neighbors. He got what he wanted. The police came and presumably cleared him for legal gun owner ship. This all was relayed on Nextdoor with lots of crying and moaning about Marcus and his gun, but as a moderator I had to remind people there’s nothing against the law about him cleaning his gun in front of his house. Technically, as someone pointed out, sidewalk was public property, but that is a minor point.

[bae]

Hmm. My daughter and I fence with longswords, sabers, cutlasses, and rapiers in the front yard, and the police never came by.

[iris lilies]

Hmm. My daughter and I fence with longswords, sabers, cutlasses, and rapiers in the front yard, and the police never came by.
Unlike Marcus, you have established yourself as a citizen who contributes to the community. So far Marcus has only established himself as someone who contribute in a negative way to our community. But I gave him community points if he really is a member of the national guard.

And of course you don’t have neighbors with whom you share walls, So your front yard is not observed by many people looking down on you in sword play.

But calling the police on his taunting gun-cleaning activity was a little silly but didn’t go anywhere because he had a permit for the gun.

Driving (with a suspended license as he is likely doing) after receiving multiple speeding tickets and failing to appear in court Will catch up with him eventually, but what are they going to do to him? nothing.

[LDAHL]

Hmm. My daughter and I fence with longswords, sabers, cutlasses, and rapiers in the front yard, and the police never came by.

Probably because it was good for tourism.