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They’ve already kicked off the 2021 riot season in Portland. It may have been about a pipeline from Canada to Wisconsin. It may have been about Minneapolis cops. It may have been provoked by the authorities removing a fence in front of the Courthouse. Or maybe it was just the simple joy of mostly peaceful arson and vandalism.
I read that the radical TERF group was gaining momentum. There are a lot of cultish groups out there that don't represent any mainstream ideology.
I read that the radical TERF group was gaining momentum. There are a lot of cultish groups out there that don't represent any mainstream ideology.
As well as the radical Smurf “Blue Lives Matter” movement pushing their defund Paw Patrol agenda through mindless violence.
iris lilies
3-17-21, 3:33pm
I heard about a group of armed ( basically) white men who wear Hawaiian shirts as ID garb in these riots. Their MO is to be rabidly anti-police. So they show up to BLM protests to protect the protesters. Ideologically they are neither pro nor con, they’re there in their minds to protect protesters.
Has anybody heard of this fringe group? Would they be anarchists or a flavor of anarchist?
The Hawaiian shirts are Boogaloo and they are right wing.
Snow is forecast for Thursday night and Friday where I am. Spring is not early and we do not have any protesters.
The Hawaiian shirts are Boogaloo and they are right wing.
I didn't realize Jimmy Buffet was a Boogaloo boy, or right wing for that matter. Live and learn!
I didn't realize Jimmy Buffet was a Boogaloo boy, or right wing for that matter. Live and learn!
The venn diagram of boogaloo boys and Hawaiian shirt wears has two overlapping circles, not one big circle for both.
The venn diagram of boogaloo boys and Hawaiian shirt wears has two overlapping circles, not one big circle for both.
So a Hawaiian shirt doesn't automatically label someone as a Boogaloo Boy, good to know! Giggity!!
ApatheticNoMore
3-17-21, 4:20pm
Context matters in communication, who knew, Hawaiian shirts as a uniform at a political protest, I think it's pretty safe to say. Hawaiian shirts were an informal (company suggested) uniform for employees at Trader Joe's, though sadly they may have had to change that (yea i'm sick and tired of changing stuff that's harmless, just because it gets appropriated by the lowest common denominator folks). Nope not Boogaloo.
iris lilies
3-17-21, 4:22pm
The Hawaiian shirts are Boogaloo and they are right wing.
Snow is forecast for Thursday night and Friday where I am. Spring is not early and we do not have any protesters.
That’s it, Boogaloo Boys. I have to say, the Hawaiian shirts or a stroke of genius.
So a Hawaiian shirt doesn't automatically label someone as a Boogaloo Boy, good to know! Giggity!!
This is good news, as I used to wear only Hawaiian shirts at my old job and still have lots, had tiki torches before they were cool, and love Martin Denny, Yma Sumac, and Les Baxter.
I've even got Tiki statues in my garden.
Teacher Terry
3-17-21, 4:39pm
Whenever I see tiki torches all I think about is that funny sign in a store explaining what they
are for and ends it with “you racist asshole.”
This is good news, as I used to wear only Hawaiian shirts at my old job and still have lots, had tiki torches before they were cool, and love Martin Denny, Yma Sumac, and Les Baxter.
I've even got Tiki statues in my garden.
Love it! Add Arthur Lyman. I have several CDs of his.
Whenever I see tiki torches all I think about is that funny sign in a store explaining what they
are for and ends it with “you racist asshole.”
And here I thought they were just part of the Mid Century/Atomic Era/Tiki Lounge culture.
And here I thought they were just part of the Mid Century/Atomic Era/Tiki Lounge culture.
Perhaps we have now an obvious example of the potential harm of cultural appropriation.
Perhaps we have now an obvious example of the potential harm of cultural appropriation.Lots of folks today are wearing clothing with an Irish motif. Is that cultural appropriation?
Lots of folks today are wearing clothing with an Irish motif. Is that cultural appropriation?
Do they speak Gaeilge?
Is fearr Gaeilge briste, ná Béarla clíste.
Do they speak Gaeilge?
Is fearr Gaeilge briste, ná Béarla clíste.
Diabhal fhios agam.
Good to know there are other tiki-ites out there. I've not known another and thought I was the only one. That must be how things get going with social media. I'm putting on Arthur Lyman right now. It will be good mood music after our two foot snow a couple of days ago.
Lots of folks today are wearing clothing with an Irish motif. Is that cultural appropriation?
I suppose if they’re just drinking Guinness and not chanting ‘Jews will not replace us’ no one will be much offended.
I suppose if they’re just drinking Guinness and not chanting ‘Jews will not replace us’ no one will be much offended.So if let's say Hamas or the Iranians or Palestinians or some other foreign group known to hate Jews dressed in Irish garb and drank Guinness they'd be guilty of cultural appropriation? I'm not sure where the Jew angle comes in, or is that requirement specific to Americans?
I'm trying to understand when cultural appropriation is ok to allege and when it isn't, it's confusing.
Diabhal fhios agam.
My daughter, whose academic specialty includes old/middle Irish, who digs up tombs there, and who has spent a lot of time creating instructional material for the Irish school system to teach kids there their own language, reports to me that Actual Irish don't quite understand the whole US St. Patrick's Day business.
So if let's say Hamas or the Iranians or Palestinians or some other foreign group known to hate Jews dressed in Irish garb and drank Guinness they'd be guilty of cultural appropriation? I'm not sure where the Jew angle comes in, or is that requirement specific to Americans?
I'm trying to understand when cultural appropriation is ok to allege and when it isn't, it's confusing.
That would certainly be an interesting twist if Iranians or Hamas or the Palestinians decided to use the same protesting slogan as the Charlottesville ‘good people’ as trump called them except wearing ‘kiss me I’m irish’ green shirts. It might muddy their message somewhat since I doubt they have quite the same reason for disliking Jews. But I suppose it would certainly garner media attention...
My daughter, whose academic specialty includes old/middle Irish, who digs up tombs there, and who has spent a lot of time creating instructional material for the Irish school system to teach kids there their own language, reports to me that Actual Irish don't quite understand the whole US St. Patrick's Day business.
Yes. I’ve heard that every year for as long as I can remember. My grandfather had a reply for it. He said that most of the boldest, craziest, most fun and interesting Irish left or were chased out over the last couple of centuries, and naturally have the boldest, craziest, most fun and interesting parties. Therefore the comparison should be viewed more as a compliment than a rebuke.
mschrisgo2
3-17-21, 9:28pm
My daughter, whose academic specialty includes old/middle Irish ... reports to me that Actual Irish don't quite understand the whole US St. Patrick's Day business.
I think St Patrick’s Day is to the Irish, as Cinco de Mayo is to the Mexicans...
US population celebrating something they only vaguely understand, and yes, a kind of cultural appropriation.
Personally, I have always hated St Patrick’s Day. I’m half Irish and went to Catholic grammar school, where there was much bullying on this day. Plus I saw/still see adults using it as an excuse to get rip roaring drunk. Who wants That as their heritage?!
Therefore the comparison should be viewed more as a compliment than a rebuke.
Well, to be fair, my daughter mostly only converses with Irish folk who have been buried for at least 1000 years.
Well, to be fair, my daughter mostly only converses with Irish folk who have been buried for at least 1000 years.
That sounds more enjoyable than going to an American Irish bar on st Patrick’s day.
Plus I saw/still see adults using it as an excuse to get rip roaring drunk. Who wants That as their heritage?!
Me.
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