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iris lilies
3-17-21, 11:56am
Just giving daddy Joe credit where credit is due.
He did not sink the market.
Way to go, Joe!
I am hoping the lack of the tweet-of-the-day will reduce the "frothiness" of the market, and allow boring investors like myself to relax a bit.
He’s doing a great job making the sun rise every morning too.
iris lilies
3-17-21, 1:02pm
He’s doing a great job making the sun rise every morning too.oh come now. I was worried about Dems’ largesse to some and villainy to others sinking the Dow. But nope!
He’s doing a great job making the sun rise every morning too.
Well, there's the matter of this "Daylight Savings Time" that needs a bit of work still...
happystuff
3-17-21, 1:41pm
He’s doing a great job making the sun rise every morning too.
Agree!!! ;) :laff:
oh come now. I was worried about Dems’ largesse to some and villainy to others sinking the Dow. But nope!
Give them time to kill a few more pipelines, write some new regulations, cancel right to work laws and shore up the tax code. Elizabeth Warren has binders full of plans. The current economic tailwinds from opening up the economy can be overcome if we all work together.
iris lilies
3-17-21, 2:02pm
Give them time to kill a few more pipelines, write some new regulations, cancel right to work laws and shore up the tax code. Elizabeth Warren has binders full of plans. The current economic tailwinds from opening up the economy can be overcome if we all work together.
Plugging my ears and going La La La La La La La. I no longer care about reality in politics.
Plugging my ears and going La La La La La La La. I no longer care about reality in politics.
You may not care about reality, but reality cares about you.
ApatheticNoMore
3-17-21, 2:17pm
good thing the stock market hasn't cared about reality in several decades.
Well, there's the matter of this "Daylight Savings Time" that needs a bit of work still...
Yes. Perhaps they will write laws to overcome the historical inequities of the twenty-four hour day through affirmative horological regulation.
iris lilies
3-17-21, 5:58pm
good thing the stock market hasn't cared about reality in several decades.
This made me laugh.
frugal-one
3-17-21, 6:06pm
Give them time to kill a few more pipelines, write some new regulations, cancel right to work laws and shore up the tax code. Elizabeth Warren has binders full of plans. The current economic tailwinds from opening up the economy can be overcome if we all work together.
And, add third wave of virus until more vaccinated!
And, add third wave of virus until more vaccinated!
CNN seems to be eagerly anticipating a surge of infections. They seem aggrieved that states like Florida have come through as well or better than states like New York or California that were a lot more restrictive (at least for the common folk).
catherine
3-18-21, 11:32am
Give them time to kill a few more pipelines, write some new regulations, cancel right to work laws and shore up the tax code.
From your mouth to God's ears!
From your mouth to God's ears!
Yes!!!
frugal-one
3-18-21, 2:14pm
CNN seems to be eagerly anticipating a surge of infections. They seem aggrieved that states like Florida have come through as well or better than states like New York or California that were a lot more restrictive (at least for the common folk).
See that MN just opened up more and COVID is ramping up.
frugal-one
3-18-21, 2:15pm
From your mouth to God's ears!
Fingers crossed.
From your mouth to God's ears!
The other fellow is listening pretty attentively too.
GeorgeParker
3-18-21, 4:07pm
"Right To Work" laws should always be called by their proper name: "Right To Exploit Your Workers" laws.
And if the Dems took away all the new tax breaks Trump and the Repubs gave to rich people we would all be a hell of a lot better off economically in terms of the national debt.
The other fellow is listening pretty attentively too.
Aren't they both really just the Same Fellow under the hood?
Aren't they both really just the Same Fellow under the hood?
I look forward to finding out, but I’m in no particular hurry.
GeorgeParker
3-18-21, 4:15pm
Aren't they both really just the Same Fellow under the hood?Hey! No theological discussions allowed!!!
We have to keep everything starkly stated as absolute Good or Evil with no gray areas allowed, not even a slight tinge of gray. Everything has to be absolutely Good or absolutely Evil so we can all totally hate each other for being on the wrong side of the absolutist dividing line!!!
"Right To Work" laws should always be called by their proper name: "Right To Exploit Your Workers" laws.
Or the “Force People into Unions so they can Support the Democratic Party Act”. I think they just shortened it to the “PRO Act” in the current proposal.
"Right To Work" laws should always be called by their proper name: "Right To Exploit Your Workers" laws.
We have to keep everything starkly stated as absolute Good or Evil with no gray areas allowed, not even a slight tinge of gray.
Mission accomplished!
GeorgeParker
3-18-21, 4:51pm
Or the “Force People into Unions so they can Support the Democratic Party Act”. I think they just shortened it to the “PRO Act” in the current proposal.Right To Work laws effectively take away the right of workers to organize and enter into collective bargaining agreements. Eliminating those laws would give unions more power to recruit and negotiate, but only because big employers are obviously exploiting their workers and the workers are fed up with it. Nothing forces an employee to join a union, accept a job at a unionized company, or enter a highly unionized profession. But so called Right To Work laws effectively take away their right to do those things.
For the record I've never belonged to a union, but if I went to work at a unionized company I would have no objection to joining the union. During my lifetime I've had many friends who were railroad employees or worked for car manufacturing companies and were strong union supporters, but most of the people I've known had non-union jobs. So I recognize that unions have both good and bad aspects, but the alternative is to give total power to the big corporations whose only goal is to get as much profit as possible from their workers at the lowest possible cost, and that is a much worse alternative. Here is a list of 9 pros and 9 cons of Right To Work: https://futureofworking.com/18-crucial-pros-and-cons-of-right-to-work-laws/
The last company I worked for before retiring had a paragraph in the employee handbook that was clearly labeled "Anti-Union Policy" and stated that they were against unions because employees should express their concerns directly to management as individuals. And you know how far doing that will get you.
GeorgeParker
3-18-21, 5:11pm
Mission accomplished!Don't forget what happened to Bush when he said that....
3694
The last company I worked for before retiring had a paragraph in the employee handbook that was clearly labeled "Anti-Union Policy" and stated that they were against unions because employees should express their concerns directly to management as individuals. And you know how far doing that will get you.
Exactly. Power to the people.
Don't forget what happened to Bush when he said that....
3694
Ridicule by haters unable to see shades of grey? Sounds about right.
Ridicule by haters unable to see shades of grey? Sounds about right.
Oh no! Now we’re canceling bush’s big accomplishment.
iris lilies
3-18-21, 8:27pm
And here I try to start some thing nice about daddy Joe, and all we get is bashing of GW Bush. I guess they areTaking a quick break from Trump bashing.
It makes me wonder if daddy Joe supporters actually do support him
It makes me wonder if daddy Joe supporters actually do support him
Does Biden have any significant number of supporters?
frugal-one
3-18-21, 8:49pm
Anyone is better than the orange moron!
frugal-one
3-18-21, 8:52pm
And here I try to start some thing nice about daddy Joe, and all we get is bashing of GW Bush. I guess they areTaking a quick break from Trump bashing.
It makes me wonder if daddy Joe supporters actually do support him
Obviously you like Biden... calling him your daddy! Fond memories.
iris lilies
3-18-21, 9:56pm
Obviously you like Biden... calling him your daddy! Fond memories.
Should I hate him?
Anyone is better than the orange moron!
See, that's not "support", that's "well, I'd rather have gout in my toe than my leg amputated".
GeorgeParker
3-18-21, 11:11pm
See, that's not "support", that's "well, I'd rather have gout in my toe than my leg amputated".Sometimes in politics, that's the only option you get!
I'd much rather have a mixture of moderate/centrist Democrats and moderate/centrist Republicans in both houses of Congress and a middle-of-the-road President from the "Damned If I Know" party than any Congress/President combination I've seen in the last 30 years.
When the federal government is so bitterly divided along party lines that it's unwilling or unable to create laws and regulations that 70% of Americans would willingly support, there is something seriously wrong with the way we elect our "leaders".
frugal-one
3-19-21, 3:49am
Should I hate him?
That wasn’t the question.
frugal-one
3-19-21, 3:52am
See, that's not "support", that's "well, I'd rather have gout in my toe than my leg amputated".
Nope. I support Biden wholeheartedly.
Sometimes in politics, that's the only option you get!
I'd much rather have a mixture of moderate/centrist Democrats and moderate/centrist Republicans in both houses of Congress and a middle-of-the-road President from the "Damned If I Know" party than any Congress/President combination I've seen in the last 30 years.
When the federal government is so bitterly divided along party lines that it's unwilling or unable to create laws and regulations that 70% of Americans would willingly support, there is something seriously wrong with the way we elect our "leaders".
Well stated George!:):)
So far, I'm a staunch Biden Supporter. He's not perfect, he's not Elizabeth Warren, but he knows what he's doing, and I couldn't be happier with his cabinet. Trump was clearly prescient in his desperate (generally illegal) attempts to derail him, over and over.
Teacher Terry
3-19-21, 11:59am
I support Biden and feel that he is doing a good job. I never agree with everything a president does of course but that’s normal.
The stock market has been doing extremely well these last couple of years. Since my retirement several years ago I've been paying close attention to the market since the vast majority of my retirement savings are tied up in stocks and I've been more than pleased at it's growth.
I'll admit to having been a bit concerned with Biden's potential to do something right away to screw it up but his first couple of months in office don't seem to have harmed anything. These last couple of days though, hopefully they're not the beginning of a trend.
When the federal government is so bitterly divided along party lines that it's unwilling or unable to create laws and regulations that 70% of Americans would willingly support, there is something seriously wrong with the way we elect our "leaders".
Our elected officials are so bitterly divided because we are bitterly divided. I don’t see a sizable majority crying out for more laws and demanding to be regulated more intensively. There’s no consensus that I can see for destroying the last bits of federalism because we wish to be ruled by a mighty central government.
frugal-one
3-19-21, 4:34pm
Many would like the laws back that trump eliminated that helped the environment and laws that helped workers instead of employers. Many people want these laws in place. You are just not looking or don't want to look LDAHL.
Many would like the laws back that trump eliminated that helped the environment and laws that helped workers instead of employers. Many people want these laws in place. You are just not looking or don't want to look LDAHL.
+1
Many would like the laws back that trump eliminated that helped the environment and laws that helped workers instead of employers. Many people want these laws in place. You are just not looking or don't want to look LDAHL.
How does a President eliminate a law? I'm pretty sure that's impossible.
How does a President eliminate a law? I'm pretty sure that's impossible.
He didn't eliminate a law by himself, but he and his cronies rolled back 100 or so environmental rules and regulations. King Midas thinks someday he and his grandchildren will be able to eat and breathe the gold that his Trump logo is made of.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html
How does a President eliminate a law? I'm pretty sure that's impossible.
By rolling back the administrative rules that were put in place to implement the laws.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html
He didn't eliminate a law by himself, but he and his cronies rolled back 100 or so environmental rules and regulations.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html
Jinx.
By rolling back the administrative rules that were put in place to implement the laws.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html
Except that there were no laws, there were dictates by an administrative state, similar to an executive order which can be easily reversed. No President has the authority or means to eliminate a law. Many may not see the difference, but it's actually huge. If the current administration wants to re-impose those dictates, they can do so without interference from Congress, just as their original imposition was done without Congressional approval.
Some might say that an administrative state taking actions without benefit of input from the peoples representatives undermines democracy, others might be ok with that. I, for one, hope that we never give any President enough power to create or eliminate law by dictate and that corrections to an administrative states dictates remain a fairly easy task to accomplish.
gimmethesimplelife
3-20-21, 10:49am
I just sunk $117.50 from aluminum can and Pete #1 plastic bottles recycling money into shares of American Airlines. I've doubled my money on Ford but am thinking these AA shares were not a bright buy. We"ll see.
For myself I believe the stock market is beyond overvalued but I like Colgate Palmolive and Coca Cola.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I am not a financial professional in real life nor do I play one on this site. Rob
I just sunk $117.50 from aluminum can and Pete #1 plastic bottles recycling money into shares of American Airlines. I've doubled my money on Ford but am thinking these AA shares were not a bright buy. We"ll see.
For myself I believe the stock market is beyond overvalued but I like Colgate Palmolive and Coca Cola.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I am not a financial professional in real life nor do I play one on this site. Rob
If I were going to invest in airline stock, I'd choose Alaskan. Just a wild-assed guess on my part.
I just sunk $117.50 from aluminum can and Pete #1 plastic bottles recycling money into shares of American Airlines. I've doubled my money on Ford but am thinking these AA shares were not a bright buy. We"ll see.
For myself I believe the stock market is beyond overvalued but I like Colgate Palmolive and Coca Cola.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I am not a financial professional in real life nor do I play one on this site. Rob
First I find out you own property you don't live at, now that you play the stock market. You are living large Rob. America is obviously good to you.
Except that there were no laws, there were dictates by an administrative state, similar to an executive order which can be easily reversed. No President has the authority or means to eliminate a law. Many may not see the difference, but it's actually huge. If the current administration wants to re-impose those dictates, they can do so without interference from Congress, just as their original imposition was done without Congressional approval.
Some might say that an administrative state taking actions without benefit of input from the peoples representatives undermines democracy, others might be ok with that. I, for one, hope that we never give any President enough power to create or eliminate law by dictate and that corrections to an administrative states dictates remain a fairly easy task to accomplish.
I think that over the years the legislative branch has been yielding authority to the executive and (to a somewhat lesser degree) the judicial branch, largely justified by the dangerous assumption that would help to “get things done”. The result is movement away from constitutionally enumerated powers in the direction of a quasi-monarchical presidency, and an effort to strip power from the states in favor of a powerful central government. Personally, I see that as a process of creeping authoritarianism in benevolent garb.
There seems to be some question now about the direction American conservatives should take in the post-Trump era. I don’t think we could go far wrong opposing the shift toward an imperial presidency where every election is seen as having mortal stakes.
iris lilies
3-20-21, 12:38pm
I think that over the years the legislative branch has been yielding authority to the executive and (to a somewhat lesser degree) the judicial branch, largely justified by the dangerous assumption that would help to “get things done”. The result is movement away from constitutionally enumerated powers in the direction of a quasi-monarchical presidency, and an effort to strip power from the states in favor of a powerful central government. Personally, I see that as a process of creeping authoritarianism in benevolent garb.
There seems to be some question now about the direction American conservatives should take in the post-Trump era. I don’t think we could go far wrong opposing the shift toward an imperial presidency where every election is seen as having mortal stakes.
My main problem with Donald Trump, outside of his personality, is that he is not a true conservative. If he ever espoused the idea of limited nature of the federal government, I would like to see that. In writing, twittered or signed off on by Donald.Limited government just did not seem to be a main idea from what she operated.
That is why the cult of Donald and starting a new party will not fly with me because, while I think he’s got the big personality to maybe make something happen there, I don’t know what the philosophy of that third party will be. I do think his supporters rand Paul and Ted Cruz could make the thing fly that I want to see fly.
My main problem with Donald Trump, outside of his personality, is that he is not a true conservative. If he ever espoused the idea of limited nature of the federal government, I would like to see that. In writing, twittered or signed off on by Donald.Limited government just did not seem to be a main idea from what she operated.
That is why the cult of Donald and starting a new party will not fly with me because, while I think he’s got the big personality to maybe make something happen there, I don’t know what the philosophy of that third party will be. I do think his supporters rand Paul and Ted Cruz could make the thing fly that I want to see fly.
I think you’re right, although I doubt Trumpism without Trump has much of a long term future.
frugal-one
3-20-21, 3:10pm
I just sunk $117.50 from aluminum can and Pete #1 plastic bottles recycling money into shares of American Airlines. I've doubled my money on Ford but am thinking these AA shares were not a bright buy. We"ll see.
For myself I believe the stock market is beyond overvalued but I like Colgate Palmolive and Coca Cola.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I am not a financial professional in real life nor do I play one on this site. Rob
I would have purchased something boring.... utility stock.
I would have purchased something boring.... utility stock.
I would not have been speculating in individual stocks until I had a higher net worth.
ApatheticNoMore
3-20-21, 3:55pm
I say if you have disposable income (play money) and want to try to stock pick, go for it. Just don't confuse it with an emergency fund or retirement savings unless your Warren Buffett, don't bet more than you can afford to lose without much pain.
I don't pick individual stocks, but mostly I don't have any interest in the topic, and I'm not sure it's a topic I could make myself have any interest in. So boring mutual funds it is.
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I don't pick individual stocks, but mostly I don't have any interest in the topic, and I'm not sure it's a topic I could make myself have any interest in. So boring mutual funds it is.
My sentiments as well. I've tried to get interested in stocks and other investments, but the financial interest genes evidently passed me by...
happystuff
3-21-21, 11:04am
My personal philosophy has always been "don't invest it if you can't afford to lose it". While we do okay, there is not really enough money worth risking ANY loss.
sweetana3
3-21-21, 11:27am
Do not risk what you cannot live without and be balanced in what you do. That is the philosophy we have followed. We have reached our goals without having to do without what we considered important. We left individual stocks more than 20 years ago and carefully invest in broad funds in a balanced manner. Yes, the market can go up and down. We have swung between 30% up and 30% down in various short term periods. But with the balanced method have never lost heavily and more than made it up in later time periods. As I say, it goes up and it goes down and it goes all around. But that first downturn was downright scary.
Over the years we have recognized that whenever speculators enter any market, it is time to withdraw or to be very careful. We have seen it in real estate, collectibles, rarities, etc. Right now I believe the market is overblown due in part to the missing interest rates. Money has to go somewhere.
gimmethesimplelife
3-21-21, 3:09pm
First I find out you own property you don't live at, now that you play the stock market. You are living large Rob. America is obviously good to you.I own less than $1000 in shares and the other property I don't live on? An inhereited 1/3 acre lot outside Douglas, AZ valued by Cochise County at $600. Not the streets, no, but no high life either. Rob
I own less than $1000 in shares and the other property I don't live on? An inhereited 1/3 acre lot outside Douglas, AZ valued by Cochise County at $600. Not the streets, no, but no high life either. Rob
So you are a beneficiary of multigenerational wealth built atop the backs of oppressed peoples? Cool!
I own less than $1000 in shares and the other property I don't live on? An inhereited 1/3 acre lot outside Douglas, AZ valued by Cochise County at $600. Not the streets, no, but no high life either. Rob
I seem to recall you telling us that your primary residence was also an inheritance which you shared with your cousin, and that it had a casita which you rent to a tenant. Now that you're married, are you, your husband and cousin all living there?
If housing prices are rising in your area (as you reported in another thread) will that impact your goal of escaping the United States earlier than planned? It sounds like a quick and easy sale of your estate might set you up for success in a country where your innate right to free or very low cost health care might be fully respected. This may be the time to act!
frugal-one
3-21-21, 4:17pm
I own less than $1000 in shares and the other property I don't live on? An inhereited 1/3 acre lot outside Douglas, AZ valued by Cochise County at $600. Not the streets, no, but no high life either. Rob
Why are you trying to justify yourself? There is no need and nobody’s business, especially the jealous troll(s).
happystuff
3-21-21, 4:23pm
I own less than $1000 in shares and the other property I don't live on? An inhereited 1/3 acre lot outside Douglas, AZ valued by Cochise County at $600. Not the streets, no, but no high life either. Rob
If I may ask - what is the zoning on the 1/3 acre? Could I live there in a mobile home/tiny house or would there be too many legal issues? Also, I have to ask - rattle snakes and scorpions? They may be the deal breaker. I have enough issues with the stink bugs here - LOL.
Why are you trying to justify yourself? There is no need and nobody’s business, especially the jealous troll(s).
Agreed. So tiresome. And so predictable.
Psychological projection is an interesting phenomenon. People accuse other people of things they themselves are guilty of. For instance, a troll will accuse others of being a troll.
happystuff
3-21-21, 5:09pm
Psychological projection is an interesting phenomenon. People accuse other people of things they themselves are guilty of. For instance, a troll will accuse others of being a troll.
Good example of self-deceptive rationalization.
I just sunk $117.50 from aluminum can and Pete #1 plastic bottles recycling money into shares of American Airlines. I've doubled my money on Ford but am thinking these AA shares were not a bright buy. We"ll see.
For myself I believe the stock market is beyond overvalued but I like Colgate Palmolive and Coca Cola.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I am not a financial professional in real life nor do I play one on this site. Rob
Rob, I think it's terrific that you took aluminum cans and plastic bottle recycling money and put it into the stock market. I was thinking of buying stock with any Craigslist sales we make, but we keep spending it on fish and chips.
My mother used to take me to her broker's to watch the ticker tape. It was great, and I do buy individual stocks.
Lots of people start with something like you are doing. This last year has been a great time to buy certain stocks low. I was personally burned by Ford in the last recession--I bought them because they were Ford and they didn't take a buy out, but they never really did much. I also think you like to think about things, conditions, how things work, trends--all of these should make you a good stock picker.
Enjoy your new hobby!
Good for you Rob. You engaged in beverage container arbitrage, and used the proceeds for capital formation.
This country needs people like you. Unapologetic capitalists.
gimmethesimplelife
3-22-21, 10:28pm
If I may ask - what is the zoning on the 1/3 acre? Could I live there in a mobile home/tiny house or would there be too many legal issues? Also, I have to ask - rattle snakes and scorpions? They may be the deal breaker. I have enough issues with the stink bugs here - LOL.Not 100 percent sure of tbe zoning but I did call Cochise County after inherifing the lot in regards to living in an RV on fhe land. Pretty much a no go except for brief periods of time.
It is open desert but not far from Douglas and close to the boder. It's in Sunset Western Garden Guide Zone 10 at 4000 ft and dies not have stereotypical Arizona desert plants and animals due to fairly cold winters - little snow most years but many nights under 32 snd reliably some under 20F. Great climate zone! Rob
gimmethesimplelife
3-22-21, 10:30pm
Why are you trying to justify yourself? There is no need and nobody’s business, especially the jealous troll(s).I'm trying to be better as a member and be a little more polite. Remember too that I myself have a few times been accused if being a troll. I try to give a little benefit of doubt. Rob
gimmethesimplelife
3-22-21, 10:31pm
Agreed. So tiresome. And so predictable.From a new source, though. Rob
gimmethesimplelife
3-22-21, 10:33pm
Rob, I think it's terrific that you took aluminum cans and plastic bottle recycling money and put it into the stock market. I was thinking of buying stock with any Craigslist sales we make, but we keep spending it on fish and chips.
My mother used to take me to her broker's to watch the ticker tape. It was great, and I do buy individual stocks.
Lots of people start with something like you are doing. This last year has been a great time to buy certain stocks low. I was personally burned by Ford in the last recession--I bought them because they were Ford and they didn't take a buy out, but they never really did much. I also think you like to think about things, conditions, how things work, trends--all of these should make you a good stock picker.
Enjoy your new hobby!Thank You for the kind words, Tybee. I am thinking of making this a hobby with small misc amounts of money. Rob
happystuff
3-23-21, 9:34am
Not 100 percent sure of tbe zoning but I did call Cochise County after inherifing the lot in regards to living in an RV on fhe land. Pretty much a no go except for brief periods of time.
It is open desert but not far from Douglas and close to the boder. It's in Sunset Western Garden Guide Zone 10 at 4000 ft and dies not have stereotypical Arizona desert plants and animals due to fairly cold winters - little snow most years but many nights under 32 snd reliably some under 20F. Great climate zone! Rob
Thanks for responding. Too bad on the "no" for RV living. Hopefully it is at least a nice get-away place for camping or such.
iris lilies
4-16-21, 5:27pm
See, that's not "support", that's "well, I'd rather have gout in my toe than my leg amputated".
Today I was thinking about the thread as Joe Biden’s stock market reached a record high in the Dow. I also had gout in my foot last week.
Today I was thinking about the thread as Joe Biden’s stock market reached a record high in the Dow. I also had gout in my foot last week.
You have my deep sympathies. I had my first (and hopefully only) attack just about a year ago, and it's not as funny as it looks in historical dramas.
iris lilies
4-16-21, 5:51pm
You have my deep sympathies. I had my first (and hopefully only) attack just about a year ago, and it's not as funny as it looks in historical dramas.
well, mine is self diagnosed.
I have had this off and on for a few years and I could never figure out if it was a form of arthritis* because it always showed up in times of barometric pressure changes or if it was gout. I didn’t worry too much about it, I just wanted somebody to rub my feet and would’ve paid someone to rub my feet were I not too cheap.
But last week was a killer. I drank half a bottle of wine after drinking very little in the past year. Bam! Giant pain and inflammation lasted for 3-4 days. The next time I see my doctor I will report this and she’s going to tell me to not drink I’ll betcha.
* I have since learned from dr. Google that gout is considered a form of arthritis.
frugal-one
4-16-21, 8:14pm
IL - Try Montmorecy tart cherry juice. YLMV but worth a try.
iris lilies
4-16-21, 8:48pm
IL - Try Montmorecy tart cherry juice. YLMV but worth a try.
interesting! I do like tart cherries when they are dried so I’m sure the cherry juice is very good.
interesting! I do like tart cherries when they are dried so I’m sure the cherry juice is very good.
I have eaten mountains of tart cherries, and buckets of the cherry juice, and cut out alcohol almost completely, and haven't had a relapse, so far.
A stock market thread ends with a discussion on Gout. I don't know that a thread ever ends where it started around here..........:~)
Well, gout is referred to as "the rich man's disease", so there is that.
iris lilies
4-17-21, 9:23am
Well, gout is referred to as "the rich man's disease", so there is that.
There’s our tie in. Thanks!
frugal-one
4-17-21, 2:36pm
interesting! I do like tart cherries when they are dried so I’m sure the cherry juice is very good.
Needs to be specifically MONTMORENCY tart cherries (or so I am told).
Teacher Terry
4-17-21, 3:09pm
Good thing I am not rich so that’s why I never got gout:)).
My husband takes allipurinol for gout after having 3 bad bouts in a row. I blame it on not drinking enough water...He still avoids seafood and asparagus and hasn't had a bout for years. The dr. said each bout leaves damage. Arthritic damage.
iris lilies
4-18-21, 11:15am
My husband takes allipurinol for gout after having 3 bad bouts in a row. I blame it on not drinking enough water...He still avoids seafood and asparagus and hasn't had a bout for years. The dr. said each bout leaves damage. Arthritic damage.
Interesting.
And looking up this drug allipurinol I see that tart cherry juice and lots of water is recommended, as is coffee! Who would’ve thought coffee was recommended as a treatment for anything, yay!
The dr. said each bout leaves damage. Arthritic damage.
Yes. I've seen it many times in the OR over the years. It's nasty ugly stuff.
The supplement or juice you want is best from Shoreline Fruit in Traverse City--the brand is Cherry Bay. Best product, best prices, and I can vouch for it being where you want to buy it.
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