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iris lilies

4-3-21, 8:25pm

I didn’t know she advocated putting things in shoeboxes. I’ve never actually read the book.

Right now I’m contemplating two closets in my condo. This whole condo is so cute it has five closets. Unbelievable. Anyway – I was going to pull two of them out and make drawers at waist level and below, and perhaps some pretty cabinetry above. And I still may do that. But I will live with it for a year as is because I may find these two closets are fine.

What is prompting this post is that I envisioned in these closets with shelves, putting things in baskets or boxes of some sort that can just pull out as conveniently as a drawer.

catherine

4-3-21, 9:38pm

I've gotten Kondo fatigue in terms of folding underwear. I'm done with the 4 fold thing and I'm back to just tossing it in my drawer.

rosarugosa

4-4-21, 7:05am

I read the book and got a couple of good takeaways, but I did not change the way I stored or folded items. I think she is a bit nutty, but she is obviously very successful, so good for her. I already had my own systems and methods in place for storing and organizing items. I think her "sparks joy" assessment is just a catchy way of restating William Morris' quote, “Have nothing in your house that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful.”

jp1

4-4-21, 9:15am

I've gotten Kondo fatigue in terms of folding underwear. I'm done with the 4 fold thing and I'm back to just tossing it in my drawer.

Folding underwear seems like a supreme waste of time. I just have a flat stack of it in the drawer.

catherine

4-4-21, 9:18am

Folding underwear seems like a supreme waste of time. I just have a flat stack of it in the drawer.

Come on, JP, this is what you SHOULD be doing: :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57F-DxQhJfo

rosarugosa

4-4-21, 10:03am

I do fold in half, which isn't much harder than not folding them at all.

nswef

4-4-21, 10:26am

My husband folds the laundry and my underwear drawer looks like Marie's....and I am NOT tidy, but I love to open that drawer. He also folds the sheets marvelously...towels and washcloths...

happystuff

4-4-21, 10:51am

I have never read anything Kondo related, but do fold my underwear with the first three folds in the video. Not one for have rolled-up items in drawers so don't take it any further than that.

I also gave up storing things in containers that I could see thru a long time ago. I hate having to open several boxes to find the item I'm looking for!

Teacher Terry

4-4-21, 10:51am

I read the book but like Rosa kept my own folding and storage methods. I do fold my underwear.

Gardnr

4-4-21, 11:40am

She's created an industry of "needed" storage containers. So people get rid of stuff including money to her. Capitalism at it's finest. I prefer my system of remaining decluttered and organization without containers.;)

bae

4-4-21, 12:37pm

Folding underwear seems like a supreme waste of time. I just have a flat stack of it in the drawer.

My life is too short to fold things like that.

I wear mostly easy-to-care-for clothing, and when it is just me living here, I often use the washing machine as my dirty clothes bin, running it when full. The bins in the laundry room contain clean, dry clothes out of the dryer, and I just grab the day's clothes out of the bin directly.

No folding, no putting away.

catherine

4-4-21, 12:46pm

I feel like I'm doing market research. I don't know your names but I know intimate details of what you do with your underwear. :~)
If I could get about 40 more people to weigh in I could probably sell this information to someone. Kondo? Hanes? California Closets?

razz

4-4-21, 1:10pm

In the interest of market research:D, I skimmed the book but didn’t change much in my life. I have clothes that last for years and simply recycle the same ones each week with modification due to cold and warm outside temperatures - longer sleeves, cords, socks and shoes in winter, tshirts, capris and sandals in the summer. I wash and wear everything each week.
I keep life simple but have a few dress-up outfits as well.
Scarves are my clutter items with a wide selection of them that I do cycle through.

iris lilies

4-4-21, 2:02pm

(pssssst! Is anyone shocked that bae apparently does not separate his whites and his dark colored clothes to wash them?)

I suppose it’s possible that he didn’t have any whites.

I know I will confess that I have been known to throw whites and darks together because I just want to get them washed. Are usually do that on a warm cycle.

Now for Catherine‘s research:

DH, who you will know as a guy who collects a little more stuff than what I’d like him to collect, and then makes neat piles with it, must always fold his underwear. I do not fold it for him.He takes it out of the clean laundry basket and fold it and put it away or else I dump it on the bed and he folds it and puts it away.
I tossed my underwear into the drawer.

Women’s underwear is much smaller than men’s so it takes up less volume when not folded.???

ApatheticNoMore

4-4-21, 2:08pm

I find it hard to imagine anyone with an actual clutter problem being helped by being made to fold underwear. But maybe it taps into some of the same brain circuits as compulsive buying and refusal to get rid of anything does (as opposed to just being disorganized which seems the polar opposite of this. Then like a drawer for underwear is an improvement, and maybe good enough! :)). Just your random pseudo psychology speculation of the day.

But I have always suspected she was a bit of a scam (but not everyone finds a way to turn their idiosyncrasies into a living) with the spark joy stuff. It's all barking up the wrong tree: joy is not in stuff. I don't even much agree with having things that are useful and beautiful. Mostly have things that are useful, the useful things CAN ALSO be beautiful, but mostly useful. Form follows function. Ok, ok a *small* amount of just beautiful things like art is okay. And of course containers can help with organizing, but a drawer is *already* a container, no need to get all redundant.

bae

4-4-21, 2:35pm

razz

4-4-21, 3:27pm

I have no whites :-). I buy everything in basically compatible colors, wash on cold, use less detergent than the bottle says, no extra rinse cycle.

If an item of clothing can’t handle this, it goes away. Wool objects and other odds and ends get hand washed as needed.

Catherine is right. Now we know the innermost details of another's laundry!!! Where does one draw the line in this kind of behaviour?:devil:

happystuff

4-4-21, 3:49pm

Catherine is right. Now we know the innermost details of another's laundry!!! Where does one draw the line in this kind of behaviour?:devil:

LOL - too funny!

GeorgeParker

4-4-21, 5:24pm

Office Depot and various other places sell various sizes of clear plastic boxes that let you see what is inside without pulling them out or opening them. Some have lids, some don't. Some of the available metal wire baskets sold at Lowes etc are perfect for storing clothes or other things. If you look around you can find all kinds of containers that are more practical and much longer-lasting than cardboard shoeboxes or the flimsy plastic junk boxes you find in dollar stores. Buy good baskets/boxes that will last 10-20 years and you'll be much happier than buying cheap plastic or stylish-but-poorly-made baskets.

Marla Dee has a much better system than Kondo so I always recommend this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfBF5n5kTQA even though I find Marla Dee's voice and attitude annoying.

Clotheswise I do basically the same thing Bae does: Dirty clothes in one basket, clean clothes in a different basket. New clothes get washed with similar colors the first few times to get rid of excess dye, but after that everything gets washed together on cool or warm. I do laundry once a week. Clean clothes that can or should be hung up get hung up on fat hangers to prevent shoulder creases caused by thin hangers. Stuff that doesn't wrinkle goes in the clean clothes basket. Sheets, blankets, and other bulky stuff go in a different (BIG) basket and don't get folded. Towels go in the clothes basket because I change my hand towel and kitchen towel daily and my bath towel twice a week. I would NEVER fold my socks or underpants.

Teacher Terry

4-4-21, 9:11pm

Not surprised it’s men washing colors together, not folding or putting away. Heathens:))

razz

4-4-21, 9:55pm

Not surprised it’s men washing colors together, not folding or putting away. Heathens:))

Add me to the heathens. When I wash an article for the first time, I check for colour fastness. I always wash in cold water and throw everything in together unless it creates lint like towels. I keep anything that collects lint apart. Soon even the lint is not an issue. I separate bulky items like fleece sheets from small items to ensure all get well cleaned.

GeorgeParker

4-4-21, 11:13pm

But I have always suspected [Kondo] was a bit of a scam (but not everyone finds a way to turn their idiosyncrasies into a living) with the spark joy stuff. It's all barking up the wrong tree: joy is not in stuff. I don't even much agree with having things that are useful and beautiful. Mostly have things that are useful, the useful things CAN ALSO be beautiful, but mostly useful. Form follows function. Ok, ok a *small* amount of just beautiful things like art is okay. And of course containers can help with organizing, but a drawer is *already* a container, no need to get all redundant.Kondo is OCD for sure, but what she says is consistent enough with Japanese minimalism and Japanese (Shinto) spiritualism and other aspects of Japanese culture for me to believe she's totally for real.

As far as "a drawer is already a container..." If you really believe that, then you must dump all your cooking knives and silverware and other food-related stuff into a single kitchen cabinet drawer in a random unsorted pile instead of using some kind of divider to keep them organized. And who says the whole world is full of drawers? Most closets and storage rooms and laundry rooms that I'm familiar with have shelves, not drawers.

And I agree Kondo's position that everything in your house should "spark joy" is too extreme, but your "Joy is not in stuff" position is just a far wrong in the opposite direction. It's not just a few beautiful things that can spark joy. I have a small plastic pill bottle I filled with beach sand on a very special morning during a teenage vacation. It sparks joy every time I see it, and it is neither beautiful nor art. I also have some other things that likewise spark joy because of what they mean to me. Some are cute or beautiful or useful, and some are not, but they all spark joy. And I have other things that spark joy just because of how useful they are or how much easier having them makes doing some of the work that has to be done in my house.

GeorgeParker

4-4-21, 11:28pm

I use less detergent than the bottle says, no extra rinse cycle.I also use less detergent than the bottle says, but I do use the extra rinse cycle because I discovered that even using reduced detergent it doesn't all rinse out. Try this: load the washer with dirty clothes and don't put in any detergent. Stop the washer during the wash cycle and again near the end of the rinse cycle to see how much suds you have from just the detergent that was left in your clothes during previous washings.

Gardnr

4-5-21, 9:28am

As far as "a drawer is already a container..." If you really believe that, then you must dump all your cooking knives and silverware and other food-related stuff into a single kitchen cabinet drawer in a random unsorted pile instead of using some kind of divider to keep them organized. .

Don't know about you but kitchen doesn't have 1 gigantic drawer. Yes, items are in their drawers (I have 8 in my small kitchen to be precise). With exception of a silverware tray, there are no containers. And I don't have trouble grabbing what I need.

JaneV2.0

4-5-21, 10:05am

I tend to bliss out in container stores, but my ultimate goal should be needing less of them.

The most interesting thing to me about Marie Kondo is that a lesbian relative of mine has a crush on her. :D

happystuff

4-5-21, 10:32am

I tend to bliss out in container stores, but my ultimate goal should be needing less of them.

I've actually started using the empty storage containers as my donation bins. :)

JaneV2.0

4-5-21, 12:19pm

I've actually started using the empty storage containers as my donation bins. :)

I just packaged a few donations in a burlap basmati rice bag; probably that doesn't count.

happystuff

4-5-21, 12:29pm

I just packaged a few donations in a burlap basmati rice bag; probably that doesn't count.

I've done the same thing, so I say "yes", it does count. :D

GeorgeParker

4-5-21, 2:24pm

Don't know about you but kitchen doesn't have 1 gigantic drawer. Yes, items are in their drawers (I have 8 in my small kitchen to be precise). With exception of a silverware tray, there are no containers. And I don't have trouble grabbing what I need.But you DO have a silverware tray, which by ApatheticNoMore's logic is "redundant" because it's "a container within a container".

Some items are most efficiently stored and organized by keeping them in containers on shelves, or containers inside of cabinets, or even containers within containers. There is a sweet spot somewhere between too much containerization and not enough, and ApatheticNoMore's simplistic statement about containers in drawers totally misses that.

Besides, you know damn good and well I wasn't talking about the kitchen having only one huge drawer, so stop feigning naivety.

And of course containers can help with organizing, but a drawer is *already* a container, no need to get all redundant.

Correction Note: Gardnr was replying to my reply to something ApatheticNoMore wrote. In this post I accidentally attributed ApatheticNoMore's post to Gardnr. I've edited this post to correct that. Mea Culpa.

iris lilies

4-5-21, 2:50pm

But you DO have a silverware tray, which by your original logic is "redundant" because it's "a container within a container".

Some items are most efficiently stored and organized by keeping them in containers on shelves, or containers inside of cabinets, or even containers within containers. There is a sweet spot somewhere between too much containerization and not enough, and your simplistic statement about containers in drawers totally misses that.

Also you know damn good and well I wasn't talking about the kitchen having only one huge drawer, so stop feigning naivety.

I’m beginning to wonder George Parker why you hang around this website since we all seem to be fairly stupid and/ or naïve, deliberately obtuse, sloppy readers, and we have other character flaws. Is it really in your best interest to work with us to make us better?

razz

4-5-21, 3:03pm

Tybee

4-5-21, 3:16pm

jp1

4-5-21, 4:10pm

That folding underwear video is nuts. There's no way I'd ever do that. But my underwear is not bright and cheerfully various as the person in the video's. I bet that person also folds their socks. Mine are just in two stacks, one white, one black (one on each side of the stack of underwear of course). Storing them this way means it doesn't really matter when the washing machine eats one and leaves me with an odd one.

GeorgeParker

4-5-21, 6:03pm

I’m beginning to wonder George Parker why you hang around this website since we all seem to be fairly stupid and/ or naïve, deliberately obtuse, sloppy readers, and we have other character flaws. Is it really in your best interest to work with us to make us better?I said Gardnr was "feigning naivety"' IIRC you use translation software which may have mistranslated that phrase.

And before you criticize my attitude by attributing things to me that I haven't said, you should examine your own rhetoric. "we all seem to be fairly stupid and/ or naïve, deliberately obtuse, sloppy readers, and we have other character flaws" is pretty strong language when you can't back it up by pointing to anything I've actually said.

Certainly I disagree with some people here. And a few people here are sometimes guilty of jumping to conclusions instead of actually reading what a post says. But that's just the nature of an open discussion in a healthy forum -- When everyone thinks alike, it means no one is really thinking.

So if you don't want to read what I write, why not just hit the Ignore button instead of replying? It won't hurt my feelings a bit if you do that, because I know some people don't like ideas being openly challenged and debated or they don't like the style in which I do it. And that's ok.

Gardnr

4-5-21, 6:04pm

But you DO have a silverware tray, which by ApatheticNoMore's logic is "redundant" because it's "a container within a container".

Some items are most efficiently stored and organized by keeping them in containers on shelves, or containers inside of cabinets, or even containers within containers. There is a sweet spot somewhere between too much containerization and not enough, and ApatheticNoMore's simplistic statement about containers in drawers totally misses that.

Besides, you know damn good and well I wasn't talking about the kitchen having only one huge drawer, so stop feigning naivety.

Correction Note: Gardnr was replying to my reply to something ApatheticNoMore wrote. In this post I accidentally attributed ApatheticNoMore's post to Gardnr. I've edited this post to correct that. Mea Culpa.

Since we are all so F...ing stupid, why are you here?

GeorgeParker

4-5-21, 6:10pm

Since we are all so F...ing stupid, why are you here?Where in that post did I say anyone was stupid?

Disagreeing with an opinion doesn't mean you think the other person is less intelligent than you. It just means you disagree with their opinion.

GeorgeParker

4-5-21, 6:25pm

Thanks IL. I was wondering but you said it so well.
Thank you, IL!
Since we are all so F...ing stupid, why are you here?I came back after more than ten years absence because lurking for a while made me think this forum had reached a point where it was now possible to openly engage in dialog about differing opinions without anyone automatically getting their knickers in a twist and launching personal attacks or questioning the motives of whoever they disagree with. Obviously I was wrong about that.

sweetana3

4-5-21, 7:16pm

Gardnd, a well used "ignore" function can make your life less stressed.

razz

4-5-21, 7:17pm

George,
The forums have gone through many transitions but the one thing that has remained is dialogue about many subjects. I really enjoy it and learn a lot about differing viewpoints. I do get exhausted about the polarization of thought and take a break when it gets really bad but other than that, there is very little judgement passed.
I keep hearing a judgemental view from your input on others' posts . Everyone's post is right for their circumstances and viewpoint. You have offered your viewpoint which is just your opinion based on your understanding. It is not the final word or answer, simply your opinion which is no more valid or accurate than anyone else's.
You have provided excellent info just as others have done. Just don't judge others or the content of their posts.

FYI, oftentimes people will join in a longer thread without reading the earlier portions. EG: Don't refer back to your post #2 when the thread has reached over #60. Most threads deviate from the original post going in some surprising and often enlightening directions. We are, most of the time anyway, having a chat over the garden fence, offering support when needed or a listening ear for a vent or suggestions on dealing with an issue as might any group of neighbours. At least that is how I see it with one exception - Simple Public Policy. I avoid it as it makes no sense to me at all most of the time.

iris lilies

4-5-21, 8:21pm

...or they don't like the style in which I do it...

yeah, pretty much.

Gardnr

4-5-21, 9:05pm

Where in that post did I say anyone was stupid?

Disagreeing with an opinion doesn't mean you think the other person is less intelligent than you. It just means you disagree with their opinion.

Your constant comments vehemently telling us we're wrong is supposed to tell me you are in a respectful dialogue?

KayLR

4-6-21, 9:55am

I've been tempted to start a thread on vaginal atrophy just to see if GP has a more expert perspective than we ladies do.

happystuff

4-6-21, 10:44am

I've been tempted to start a thread on vaginal atrophy just to see if GP has a more expert perspective than we ladies do.

This is my laugh for the day. Thanks!

razz

4-6-21, 10:50am

Wicked Kay;)

happystuff

4-6-21, 11:22am

And before you criticize my attitude by attributing things to me that I haven't said, you should examine your own rhetoric. "we all seem to be fairly stupid and/ or naïve, deliberately obtuse, sloppy readers, and we have other character flaws" is pretty strong language when you can't back it up by pointing to anything I've actually said.

Well, how's this for just one example:

Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeParker
You should have read the rest of my post, which explains for the benefit of people like you why that first sentence is true.[/URL]

Again, just one example and you asked.

jp1

4-6-21, 11:38am

I've been tempted to start a thread on vaginal atrophy just to see if GP has a more expert perspective than we ladies do.

I suppose we've reached the endgame of 'everyone deserves atrophy' when even vaginas are getting them. Oh wait, it's everyone deserves a trophy...

Teacher Terry

4-6-21, 12:01pm

You guys:))

KayLR

4-6-21, 12:14pm

I suppose we've reached the endgame of 'everyone deserves atrophy' when even vaginas are getting them. Oh wait, it's everyone deserves a trophy... ROTFL!!

iris lilies

4-6-21, 12:53pm

I suppose we've reached the endgame of 'everyone deserves atrophy' when even vaginas are getting them. Oh wait, it's everyone deserves a trophy...
It took me a minute...lol!

razz

4-6-21, 1:06pm

Took me longer than a minute but finally...

Gardnr

4-6-21, 8:35pm

I've been tempted to start a thread on vaginal atrophy just to see if GP has a more expert perspective than we ladies do.

:cool: :D I needed that chuckle after a long day giving vaccines!

HappyHiker

4-6-21, 8:55pm

My life will never be perfectly Kondo'd since I seem to have an evil twin who follows behind me and un-does all my tidiness. My junk drawer, for example. Lovely to look at for about a week or so and then it reverts back to its tangled mess

My undies? Forget about it...once folded, they party at night and become all loose and sloppy....but happy.

Fitted sheets hate me and refuse all my best efforts to make friends...

jp1

4-6-21, 9:42pm

I've never read Kondo. I'm curious, how does she deal with (or does she) people who live with someone who is not interested in a Kondo'd life. Long ago, when I was single and lived alone, (and before Kondo had written anything on the topic) I had developed my own method of living that wasn't Kondo level but did involve knowing where everything would go and making an effort to put everything in its place. Now that I live with someone who lives by the motto "any flat place is a good spot to set this" it would be a full-time job to keep tidy at even a fraction of Kondo-level organization.

Teacher Terry

4-7-21, 12:53am

JP, I cannot remember if she addresses that. She is a neat freak to the max. I will enjoy not having someone else making messes.

GeorgeParker

4-7-21, 2:29am

I keep hearing a judgemental view from your input on others' posts . Everyone's post is right for their circumstances and viewpoint. You have offered your viewpoint which is just your opinion based on your understanding. It is not the final word or answer, simply your opinion which is no more valid or accurate than anyone else's.
You have provided excellent info just as others have done. Just don't judge others or the content of their posts.What you and others think you are hearing is totally in your own mind. I don't make any judgements about people, I just express my own opinion about what has been said or offer a potential alternative. SO DON"T YOU DARE LECTURE ME ABOUT "IT'S JUST MY OPINION" WHEN I'VE SAID THAT MYSELF NUMEROUS TIMES. AND DON'T TELL ME THERE'S "VERY LITTLE JUDGEMENT" WHEN EVERY TIME I SAY ANYTHING A CERTAIN GROUP A PEOPLE STOMP ALL OVER ME BY MAKING FALSE CLAIMS AS THEY HAVE IN THIS THREAD.

I'll put what I said to IL more bluntly: PUT UP OR SHUT UP! Post some direct quotes where I've said anyone is "stupid and/or naïve, deliberately obtuse, sloppy readers, and we have other character flaws"

And the thought that I'm trying to "teach" or "improve" anyone is laughable beyond belief. I try to contribute whatever I can to forums I belong to, but the only reason I ever join a forum is because I want to learn from whatever information is posted there. I join for my own benefit, and if being a member isn't worth my time I leave. I don't waste my time in forums where I have to walk on eggshells for fear of someone reading judgements into my posts that simply aren't there.

You and everyone else can now resume you private little chat over the back fence, because I'm gone permanently.

bae

4-7-21, 2:31am

Not surprised it’s men washing colors together, not folding or putting away. Heathens:))

Well, the colors I am washing together are black, dark blue, and dark green, and it hasn't presented any problems to date.

Rogar

4-7-21, 8:09am

Heathanism here. I wash everything together cold including whites and drop back on detergent. Weather permitting, most often everything get line dried outside. As a side benefit, I think clothes last longer by line drying rather than a hot tumble drier. Jeans get folded onto a closet shelf and that's all the folding.

Gardnr

4-7-21, 8:43am

What you and others think you are hearing is totally in your own mind. I don't make any judgements about people, I just express my own opinion about what has been said or offer a potential alternative. SO DON"T YOU DARE LECTURE ME ABOUT "IT'S JUST MY OPINION" WHEN I'VE SAID THAT MYSELF NUMEROUS TIMES. AND DON'T TELL ME THERE'S "VERY LITTLE JUDGEMENT" WHEN EVERY TIME I SAY ANYTHING A CERTAIN GROUP A PEOPLE STOMP ALL OVER ME BY MAKING FALSE CLAIMS AS THEY HAVE IN THIS THREAD.

I'll put what I said to IL more bluntly: PUT UP OR SHUT UP! Post some direct quotes where I've said anyone is "stupid and/or naïve, deliberately obtuse, sloppy readers, and we have other character flaws"

And the thought that I'm trying to "teach" or "improve" anyone is laughable beyond belief. I try to contribute whatever I can to forums I belong to, but the only reason I ever join a forum is because I want to learn from whatever information is posted there. I join for my own benefit, and if being a member isn't worth my time I leave. I don't waste my time in forums where I have to walk on eggshells for fear of someone reading judgements into my posts that simply aren't there.

You and everyone else can now resume you private little chat over the back fence, because I'm gone permanently.

drama to the bitter end. Sigh......

sweetana3

4-7-21, 9:45am

I wash everything together and have for almost 50 years. But I wash gently and dry gently. Seldom have new clothes like jeans that are likely to deposit dye on other clothes. Often I will take out and line dry the rest of the way rather than baking my stuff.

Tried being neater in the folding dept and even got a Tshirt folder but that did not last long. Too many other things to do. So we hang up outer wear shirts and quickly fold tshirts and pants. I am lucky if I match socks.

happystuff

4-7-21, 10:53am

Rogar

4-7-21, 3:29pm

catherine

4-7-21, 3:50pm

It's sort of weird how we can go through a global pandemic, a big election, and the downs and ups of the stock market, and people can still angry over some aspect of folding underwear, most of which I didn't much follow.

Adds new meaning to "don't get your knickers in a twist."

I know GP was a little strident in his opinions but I'm sorry he decided he couldn't stand the heat.

Alan

4-7-21, 4:06pm

I know GP was a little strident in his opinions but I'm sorry he decided he couldn't stand the heat.
Oh, he'll be back. He left the original forums years ago, came here in 2014, stayed a while and left again then came back a few months ago. He added "Gone Permanently" to his profile a few weeks ago and was back a day or two later, so the same phrase in his last post should be taken with a grain of salt.

I'm looking forward to his next return, he helped fill the void left after 4 years of endless Trump and damn Republican posts. >8)

frugal-one

4-7-21, 5:02pm

Oh, he'll be back. He left the original forums years ago, came here in 2014, stayed a while and left again then came back a few months ago. He added "Gone Permanently" to his profile a few weeks ago and was back a day or two later, so the same phrase in his last post should be taken with a grain of salt.

I'm looking forward to his next return, he helped fill the void left after 4 years of endless Trump and damn Republican posts. >8)

Damn trump.... just for you Alan!

Alan

4-7-21, 5:17pm

Damn trump.... just for you Alan!
Oh admit it, you did that for yourself. I appreciate it though.

Tradd

4-7-21, 7:59pm

I read Kondo, but never put it into practice. Just seemed like too much to keep up. For the 8 months I worked from home, I was like Bae. Lived out of the dryer.

rosarugosa

4-8-21, 5:23am

Adds new meaning to "don't get your knickers in a twist."

I know GP was a little strident in his opinions but I'm sorry he decided he couldn't stand the heat.

Same here.

happystuff

4-8-21, 10:14am

There are others I miss more from the forums; hopeful some will eventually return.

iris lilies

4-8-21, 10:16am

Same here.
George Parker had interesting things to say about children’s literature.

Teacher Terry

4-8-21, 10:44am

I liked George also and ignored what I thought was annoying. I miss others that have left also. With such a small forum it hurts more when people leave.

pony mom

5-31-21, 9:19pm

Count me as a weirdo but I actually like folding my underwear and storing them like files in a box in the drawer. The just-washed ones go in the back. I do this with my T's and sweaters and turtlenecks too. All my riding clothes are in a wooden blanket chest; rows of perfectly folded shirts, fleece and pants. With hanging clothes, I do the 'turn the hanger around' thing to see exactly what I wear and don't wear. Having a wardrobe containing only things I love to wear is wonderful.

I completely devoured her book and got to tidying right away. Lots of books were donated, along with clothes. What really helped me get rid of things is thanking the object before donating. Beloved childhood toys were tough, so I wrote them a little letter (I found it a few months ago and had a happy cry over it).

As an avid thrift store shopper, I'm always finding good quality clothes that I want. Now I try not to go anymore because I can't leave these bargains in the store. I have more than enough; if I buy a purse, one of my current ones has to go. I'd love to be more of a minimalist, but I do like all that I own.

happystuff

6-1-21, 9:38am

... but I do like all that I own.

And I think this is the most important part. Just getting down to owning just the things I like would be so nice. Congrats to you!

Teacher Terry

6-1-21, 12:13pm

My son installed my closet organizers yesterday and I love them. I have 3 closets and gave him 2/3rds of one. My stuff fits well and everything is easily accessible.

dado potato

11-23-22, 6:21pm

A new book, Marie Kondo's Kurashi at Home, was reviewed in the NY Times edition of 11/20/2022. The reviewer, Julie Lacky, says Kondo "sounds like a life coach from time to time", such as when writing about life-and-work balance.

I would be interested in comments from any folks that have read this book.

"Kurashi" is a Japanese term that translates as "lifestyle", with connotations of comfort and serenity. I understand that the challenge is to consider what sparks joy not only among our possessions, but also environments, relationships, and daily activities.

Link to photo of a red bridge in the Showaga gorge, Toyama, Japan. To me it looks like an environment that would spark joy. http://www.pinterest.de/pin/279293614375999068