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Well, Ancestry has done it again--my percentage of Scottish-ness keeps going up. I am now 32 percent Scottish, and my husband checked his and he is up to 30% Scottish.
Is this happening to anyone else on Ancestry? I am ready to get a camper and go to the games at Grandfather Mountain! (Am in the Scot clan, although also Stuart and Napier, and he is a Duncan. Which tartan to select?)
Well, Ancestry has done it again--my percentage of Scottish-ness keeps going up. I am now 32 percent Scottish, and my husband checked his and he is up to 30% Scottish.
Is this happening to anyone else on Ancestry? I am ready to get a camper and go to the games at Grandfather Mountain! (Am in the Scot clan, although also Stuart and Napier, and he is a Duncan. Which tartan to select?)
Yeah, my Scots heritage grew a little, but my Irish heritage grew a lot: I'm now up to 61% Irish and, like you, 32% Scottish, with the rest 5% European Jew and 2% Norwegian. So now we have two corned beef and cabbages on St. Patrick's day, made with neeps and tatties! :)
DH would not admit it but if he did a DNA test he would probably find he is the flip side of my origins: Mostly Scottish but there is an Irish branch of the family.
I also love seeing the part of the Ancestry DNA data that also tracks where your ancestors settled--my ancestors are solidly in New England--from Massachusetts to RI and CT, ME and VT. And no one has traveled very far over the past 300+ years from what I can see. I think that's one reason I have such a strong sense of place, especially as I get older.
Yeah, my Scots heritage grew a little, but my Irish heritage grew a lot: I'm now up to 61% Irish and, like you, 32% Scottish, with the rest 5% European Jew and 2% Norwegian. So now we have two corned beef and cabbages on St. Patrick's day, made with neeps and tatties! :)
DH would not admit it but if he did a DNA test he would probably find he is the flip side of my origins: Mostly Scottish but there is an Irish branch of the family.
I also love seeing the part of the Ancestry DNA data that also tracks where your ancestors settled--my ancestors are solidly in New England--from Massachusetts to RI and CT, ME and VT. And no one has traveled very far over the past 300+ years from what I can see. I think that's one reason I have such a strong sense of place, especially as I get older.
Wow, I had no idea you were so Irish! You are a true Gael--93 per cent!!
I find that ancestor thing confusing, though--all of mine show up as Southern States, but I know all my dad's relatives settled in New England or Maryland. So I wondered if it is just all the people you are related to who actually took the test--all those cousins they show? Because I know way more of my Southern relatives are into geneaology than my dad's Northern relatives.
Wow, I had no idea you were so Irish! You are a true Gael--93 per cent!!
I find that ancestor thing confusing, though--all of mine show up as Southern States, but I know all my dad's relatives settled in New England or Maryland. So I wondered if it is just all the people you are related to who actually took the test--all those cousins they show? Because I know way more of my Southern relatives are into geneaology than my dad's Northern relatives.
yeah, I think they trace it to current times, and as you said, it's probably driven by the people who are on Ancestry. For instance, it says that I have relatives who "settled" in Kansas. To my knowledge the ONLY relative I have from Kansas is my uncle, but he is not a blood relative--he married my father's sister. So, when I click on the little "Kansas" bubble, I see my cousin (who doesn't live there) and, oddly, my brother, who never lived there. So the accuracy is questionable.
iris lilies
4-12-21, 9:18am
Well, Ancestry has done it again--my percentage of Scottish-ness keeps going up. I am now 32 percent Scottish, and my husband checked his and he is up to 30% Scottish.
Is this happening to anyone else on Ancestry? I am ready to get a camper and go to the games at Grandfather Mountain! (Am in the Scot clan, although also Stuart and Napier, and he is a Duncan. Which tartan to select?)
so very excellent!
Go Stuart all the way, cousin!
so very excellent!
Go Stuart all the way, cousin!
Virescit vulnere virtus
(had to look that up, Cousin!)
Funny to read these stories of another's genealogy via DNA testing. Never having been inclined to check it out, it is interesting how the results and reports unfold. I wonder how much of the NA population have taken the DNA test, how many have been surprised, pleased or disappointed and how many found unexpected relations?
Were the Stuarts/Stewarts particularly prolific? There seem to be a lot of us.
iris lilies
4-12-21, 12:00pm
Were the Stuarts/Stewarts particularly prolific? There seem to be a lot of us.
yes. Lots of them born on the wrong side of the blanket, lots of royal bastards.
Teacher Terry
4-13-21, 12:04am
I had a unexpected half sister from England.
iris lilies
4-13-21, 8:37am
I had a unexpected half sister from England.
For a while, it looked as though I might have a half brother, but further sleuthing and theorizing has the mystery man as my cousin.
iris lilies
5-5-21, 10:26am
Were the Stuarts/Stewarts particularly prolific? There seem to be a lot of us.
more Stuart talk.
My cousin sent me this below from The Stewart Society, in which he participates. There is quite a good chance several of us are “Royal.”
Interesting stat from the administrator of the Stewart DNA Project on Family Tree DNA.
Belinda Dettmann
Admin
April 18 @ 6:11pm
The question has been asked what proportion of men named Stewart, Stuart or a variant of the name are royal Stewarts. Currently, in the Stewart DNA Project, Royal Stewarts can be detected from the results of their Y-37 DNA tests. To date, 739 men with the surname Stewart or a close variant have tested for Y-37 markers. Of these 218 are Royal Stewart descendants. So for the Stewart DNA project, 29.5 % of men named Stewart or a variant are descended from one of the Royal Stewart lines.
So do we now address you as Your Majesty IL? or some other regal form?
iris lilies
5-5-21, 10:57am
So do we now address you as Your Majesty IL? or some other regal form?
If you like yes you may do that!!!
edited to add: I don’t think we are in the 29% that is royal or else my cousin would’ve told me that. I think. I need to check back with him.
If you like yes you may do that!!!
edited to add: I don’t think we are in the 29% that is royal or else my cousin would’ve told me that. I think. I need to check back with him.
I just looked it up on Ancestry, and apparently my Virginia Stewarts are descended from this Stewart:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stewart,_2nd_Earl_of_Moray
who is called the Bonny Earl of Moray, and is my 13th great-grandfather, according to Ancestry. But while he is descended from King Robert II of Scotland, king of Scotland in the 14th century, he is only a distant cousin of the King James VI of Scotland, aka King James I of England.
But I have other Stewarts so I have to check on those.
Is this your line. did they come through Virginia? I would imagine they did, Cous!
I vaguely remember finding a Virginia Stewart in my researching, but I didn't pursue that line. I suppose I should get back to it.
My other was my g-g grandmother Laura Ann Stewart, Oregon pioneer, divorcee, and mother of a mysterious mixed-race daughter.
My dad did Ancestry and got only the most vague information, at the level of, he might be from Eastern Europe. Does the detail one can learn just depend on the luck of how many others in your lineage happen to have previously registered with Ancestry?
ApatheticNoMore
5-6-21, 1:18pm
My dad did Ancestry and got only the most vague information, at the level of, he might be from Eastern Europe. Does the detail one can learn just depend on the luck of how many others in your lineage happen to have previously registered with Ancestry?
I suspect what is also going on here, is it's well known that ancestry in western Europe is much easier to trace. This is usually stated as it's easy to trace white ancestry. Yes, except Eastern Europe is Europe and thus "white", but I suspect there is just a lot less data from places that were basically feudal not that long ago (think Russia before the revolution etc.), that less records exist.
iris lilies
5-6-21, 1:46pm
I just looked it up on Ancestry, and apparently my Virginia Stewarts are descended from this Stewart:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stewart,_2nd_Earl_of_Moray
who is called the Bonny Earl of Moray, and is my 13th great-grandfather, according to Ancestry. But while he is descended from King Robert II of Scotland, king of Scotland in the 14th century, he is only a distant cousin of the King James VI of Scotland, aka King James I of England.
But I have other Stewarts so I have to check on those.
Is this your line. did they come through Virginia? I would imagine they did, Cous!
The Morays are BIG!
our immigrant ancestor did not come through the state of Virginia That was quite vague where he did come through. I mean I think he came through New York and headed to the Midwest.
My Oregon Stewarts came from Illinois--at least in that generation.
iris lilies
5-6-21, 2:36pm
My Oregon Stewarts came from Illinois--at least in that generation.
We liked the lack of trees on the prairies and stayed here once we got here.
We liked the lack of trees on the prairies and stayed here once we got here.
We were straight outta Kentucky...:)
For which I'll be eternally grateful.
But you know, Kentucky was once western Virginia territory...
My mother came through Maine from Nova Scotia Canada and my dad's came through Windsor? from Ontario and from Germany to Ontario. Before the internet I had never met anyone with my last name...turns out there are hundreds in Canada all decended from that one guy! There's a river in Germany with our name.
Teacher Terry
5-7-21, 12:42pm
NS, that’s amazing.
My mother came through Maine from Nova Scotia Canada and my dad's came through Windsor? from Ontario and from Germany to Ontario. Before the internet I had never met anyone with my last name...turns out there are hundreds in Canada all decended from that one guy! There's a river in Germany with our name.
That is so cool--you need a family reunion.
It was strange to see their names on a document- Mom was 14, one of 7 children. Grandfather came for a job in Pgh.They brought one maid with them...who was not allowed to stay on the same floor with them in the hotel until my grandfather made a huge scene. She got to stay with the kids. She married and settled in Pittsburgh, became an excellent tournament bridge player, husband owned a car repair shop.
Anybody else more of something with the new revision in September? I am now 38% Scottish but they changed my 5% Swedish back to 3 percent Norwegian and 2 percent Swedish and Danish.
iris lilies
10-1-21, 12:41pm
I just looked it up on Ancestry, and apparently my Virginia Stewarts are descended from this Stewart:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stewart,_2nd_Earl_of_Moray
who is called the Bonny Earl of Moray, and is my 13th great-grandfather, according to Ancestry. But while he is descended from King Robert II of Scotland, king of Scotland in the 14th century, he is only a distant cousin of the King James VI of Scotland, aka King James I of England.
But I have other Stewarts so I have to check on those.
Is this your line. did they come through Virginia? I would imagine they did, Cous!
That Moray guy rang a bell so I had to Google some info. His son, the 3rd Earl of Moray, built the charming Castle Stuart where I was privelged to stay upon two separate occasions. It was magical. The first time we stayed there it was just me and DH. The second time we stayed there it was my brother, his wife, and my Stuart cousin. it was amusing that there was a big painting in the lobby showing the Macintoshes and the Stuarts having a battle over the castle. My sister-in-law is a Macintosh.
I however have no illusion that my Stuart immigrant is anyone other than a common villager because we cannot trace him, and besides stories come down from family members about ancestry IF that ancestry is notable.
I remember a story that my grandmother on the other side of the family was “French”. I paid no attention to that but earlier this year did easily trace her ancestry back to the Frenchman who came over to the Boston area in the 1600s.
But back to the Morays—They were noblemen who were always by the king’s side and one of them, 1st Earl, played a big role in Mary Queen of Scots life while in Scotland. I was thinking he was her bastard cousin, but perhaps not.
edited to correct which Moray Earl was the contemporary if Mary, Queen of .scots.
iris lilies
10-1-21, 12:45pm
Showing my dedication to Stuarts and architecture today, here is the photo I took of Castle Stuart way back in 1978 when it was abandoned and window-less. In later decades a rich Canadian Stuart bought it and fixed it up and ran it as a wonderful bed-and-breakfast inn. Very expensive, very exclusive, and very wonderful. It has been closed for many years now to outsiders.
We stayed there in 2004 and again in 2009.
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Showing my dedication to Stuarts and architecture today, here is the photo I took of Castle Stuart way back in 1978 when it was abandoned and window-less. In later decades a rich Canadian Stuart bought it and fixed it up and ran it as a wonderful bed-and-breakfast inn. Very expensive, very exclusive, and very wonderful. It has been closed for many years now to outsiders.
We stayed there in 2004 and again in 2009.
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Wow, it looks like a castle in a fairy tale.
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