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Friend of mine who uses FB for her business had her personal account hacked. They somehow got the business account, too. Friend did NOT have two factor authentication enabled. The hackers did enable it.
So for any account that has the feature - social media, banking, shopping, etc.- enable the feature.
iris lilies
8-8-21, 6:36pm
I guess I havent worried about a personal FB account being hacked.
is it 2 factor or3 factor?
one banking account I use wants an account number, a company number, a password, and ao etimes a passcode trexted to my cell phone.
It’s two factor.
I’m very careful with mine. Given it’s how I conduct and arrange a lot of my diving, you can be sure I don’t want to lose mine.
2-factor is a bit maddening though, as it seems everytime a device's OS or browser gets an update, you have to reauthorize, it doesn't recognize it as the same system.
Bother.
Bae, totally agreed on that!
We were going through some papers of my grandfather's today including a letter he got in the mail with his train itinerary, trip price, and meal plan. Those were the good old days!
We were going through some papers of my grandfather's today including a letter he got in the mail with his train itinerary, trip price, and meal plan. Those were the good old days!
What does that have to do with the subject?
iris lilies
8-8-21, 8:32pm
What does that have to do with the subject?
It is making reference to the days when there was no security, or security was different for information.
It is making reference to the days when there was no security, or security was different for information.
We had multi-factor security back then too.
The chair is against the wall. John has a long moustache.
We were going through some papers of my grandfather's today including a letter he got in the mail with his train itinerary, trip price, and meal plan. Those were the good old days!
These simple options are still available today. Each of us can simply print it out or not. Two factor code is not needed for these travel arrangements today in my experience. My travel agent can email, snail mail or drop them off to my house or I can pick up the info.
Banking with two factor as in Tradd's OP is whole different kettle of fish which impacts one's business and personal assets and access to them. I agree that updating the contact info as Bae mentions is a pain. I use a password manager and a totally separate email address from any any social links plus two factor verification.
These simple options are still available today. Each of us can simply print it out or not. Two factor code is not needed for these travel arrangements today in my experience. My travel agent can email, snail mail or drop them off to my house or I can pick up the info.
Banking with two factor as in Tradd's OP is whole different kettle of fish which impacts one's business and personal assets and access to them. I agree that updating the contact info as Bae mentions is a pain. I use a password manager and a totally separate email address from any any social links plus two factor verification.
Travel agent. What's a travel agent?
iris lilies
8-9-21, 8:45am
2-factor is a bit maddening though, as it seems everytime a device's OS or browser gets an update, you have to reauthorize, it doesn't recognize it as the same system.
Bother.
Oh is THAT what is happening, that would explain why sometimes I have to send a passcode, and other times not.
Travel agent. What's a travel agent?
For those who don't travel, it is easy to understand not needing a travel agent. I love my travel agent who sits on the phone with all the companies to make the connections I want and need. When covid hit, she took care of all cancellations when phone lines were jammed.
A friend was on a series of successive cruises arranged with a travel agent from Canada to Australia/NZ and then to Japan last spring when the Diamond Princess was quarantined in February 2020 due to covid cases. Their travel agent knew who and where to arrange flights home from Australia when others were struggling to do so and ensured they received reimbursement for the rest. It was interesting to hear about that trip home. It is all about service from someone more knowledgeable and familiar with the field than I choose to be. I see it as a form of insurance that gives me peace of mind.
Those who had booked their travel arrangements independently last year spent many hours on the phone and online over a period of months. My sister and and her DH were perfect examples of the challenges in cancelling their independently arranged 3-week trip that included Oberammergau Passion Play in Germany. It is hard for me to imagine the millions of hours worked by Oberammergau staff once that Passion Play was cancelled impacting millions of visitors from around the world. DSis had to cancel every other event and accommodation she had arranged as well.
Meanwhile, back to the two-factor OP.
iris lilies
8-9-21, 11:09am
For those who don't travel, it is easy to understand not needing a travel agent. I love my travel agent who sits on the phone with all the companies to make the connections I want and need. When covid hit, she took care of all cancellations when phone lines were jammed.
A friend was on a series of successive cruises arranged with a travel agent from Canada to Australia/NZ and then to Japan last spring when the Diamond Princess was quarantined in February 2020 due to covid cases. Their travel agent knew who and where to arrange flights home from Australia when others were struggling to do so and ensured they received reimbursement for the rest. It was interesting to hear about that trip home. It is all about service from someone more knowledgeable and familiar with the field than I choose to be. I see it as a form of insurance that gives me peace of mind.
Those who had booked their travel arrangements independently last year spent many hours on the phone and online over a period of months. My sister and and her DH were perfect examples of the challenges in cancelling their independently arranged 3-week trip that included Oberammergau Passion Play in Germany. It is hard for me to imagine the millions of hours worked by Oberammergau staff once that Passion Play was cancelled impacting millions of visitors from around the world. DSis had to cancel every other event and accommodation she had arranged as well.
Meanwhile, back to the two-factor OP.
I’m not going to use a travel agent, but on the other hand I like keeping things VERY simple in overseas travel. And to be truthful, my new way of traveling overseas is to hire a tour guide to drive us around. He will make those arrangements for hotels, castle visits and etc. so that is using a local travel agent.
Some years ago I figured out that everything in Europe is so close together that once you go to a city you can use that as your base, and there are many day trips you can take from that base.
Right now I’m itching to go to Prague again, just me without DH for eight days. He can stay home with the dog. But yeah I’m not gonna do that right now during Covid ramp up. Sure would like to though.
Teacher Terry
8-9-21, 12:16pm
Last year my son canceled our plane tickets and got us a full refund for about 30 minutes of his time. I canceled all the hotels online for our Europe trip. It was easy. I really want to go to Ireland but will wait for obvious reasons.
As I always clear my browsers, I always have to have the 2-factor kick in. But I don't mind; makes me feel a little more secure online in certain places.
Lots of people have been locked out of FB.
https://abc7ny.com/facebook-hack-account-hackers/10930364/?fbclid=IwAR3h1w0920AK6QMQnW-JyhaJAA4uEtRlkuypNXHi3ieCwriwP7uolvmHgJM
rosarugosa
8-14-21, 5:56am
Lots of people have been locked out of FB.
https://abc7ny.com/facebook-hack-account-hackers/10930364/?fbclid=IwAR3h1w0920AK6QMQnW-JyhaJAA4uEtRlkuypNXHi3ieCwriwP7uolvmHgJM
This happened to me at the beginning of the year and it was very creepy. It doesn't appear that the hacker actually did anything with my account, but I couldn't get in for about a month. FB doesn't actually have any kind of customer service that you can reach, which is pretty disturbing in itself. I was eventually able to get to a point where I could submit copies of my driver's license, and I regained control of my account, and you can bet I then set up 2FA as soon as I could!
I have been with the same bank since 1993, and when they started online banking I chose a simple password, and I still have the same password. Frankly, I'm so fine with that.
OTOH, with Amazon and Yahoo and other sites it seems I'm constantly having to change passwords with more and more criteria (8-32 characters, one upper one lower case, numbers, symbols--but only certain symbols and not these symbols). It is SO frustrating.
I don't mind two-factor authentication for credit card sites and things like that, but it's a little ridiculous when small-scale shopping sites make you jump through hoops.
happystuff
8-14-21, 7:30am
I just get tired of having to create a login and password for almost EVERYTHING online any more! My list to keep track is on page 3 of an excel spreadsheet! (stored on separate USB drive - NOT the computer.)
Someone is setting up Facebook accounts using my profile picture (which is of a landscape not me). They use business names but are not the official business account. For example (not a real example) they will say Walmart but it's not really Walmart. I am pretty sure this is my next to last ex boyfriend who likes to troll. A decade has passed since I dumped him and he is still at it. I was really hoping with his health issues covid would do him in, as well as the more recent ex the thief, who also has medical issues, but no such luck.
Download a password manager like onepass or KeePass to store passwords. I also use mine to store my fake answers to the security questions.
Yes passwords can be a pain. But fixing things after some criminal has gotten ahold of your account will be a bigger pain.
And use 2FA wherever possible. Yes it is a hassle. But yes, I have never had any account taken over. (Knock on wood)
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