Different personality test to try

[razz]

It has been a while since everyone took the Briggs-Myers test so thought that for fun I would suggest this free newer test. See what you think of it remembering that the goal of the test is to help one understand oneself better and recognize that others will be different.

My results: MB = INTJ and 16 Personality=INFJ aka the Diplomat Advocate.
https://www.16personalities.com/

ETA:An Advocate (INFJ) is someone with the Introverted, Intuitive, Feeling, and Judging personality traits. They tend to approach life with deep thoughtfulness and imagination. Their inner vision, personal values, and a quiet, principled version of humanism guide them in all things.

[GeorgeParker]

I'll not only share my type (Architect) I'll even post my numbers, because "I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam."

Personality tests are bogus anyway because most people either give the answers they think the person giving the test will like, or they give answers that are closer to what they want to be instead of what they really are.

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[catherine]

I'm taking it now. In the past I've been INFP. I'll update if I'm shown to have changed!

So, I'm still INFP (Mediator) but in this version I have an "a" attached: INFP-A (Assertive Mediator) vs INFP-T (Turbulent Mediator.

"Mediators are quiet, private, free spirits who view life as an endless series of idealistic possibilities waiting to be realized. They typically try to get along with others and promote harmony wherever they go."

I agree with "quiet" "private" "idealistic" "try to get along"

[Tybee]

INFJ-T, Advocate, But having a hard time finding the capsule version. so far, it looks pretty close to me, I guess.

[pinkytoe]

Test pegs me as an Advocate.

[Alan]

I'm still considering how accurate I feel this to be.

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/240899706_573927926985611_6618858326497080099_n.pn g?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=t1ZswQb7waoAX_EtL8d&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=8983d91759f801d89df2c6412e423876&oe=61543959

[herbgeek]

Huh. Every time I've done a MB test, I was either intj or intp depending on mood. Today I was infj-a, advocate.

[iris lilies]

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i was IN something. I didnt capture the screen.

wow that Identity one is pretty damn high. Haha, guess i’m not surprised.

[Simplemind]

In my working days I always tested as INTJ. Since I've retired I test as INFJ.

[ApatheticNoMore]

Your personality type is:
Virtuoso
ISTP-T

Traits: Introverted – 79%, Observant – 55%, Thinking – 71%, Prospecting – 56%, Turbulent – 75%

I usually get INTP, maybe it is true that I am quite bored with N at this point though too.

"Virtuosos love to explore with their hands and their eyes, touching and examining the world around them with cool rationalism and spirited curiosity. People with this personality type are natural Makers, moving from project to project, building the useful and the superfluous for the fun of it, and learning from their environment as they go. Often mechanics and engineers, Virtuosos find no greater joy than in getting their hands dirty pulling things apart and putting them back together, just a little bit better than they were before."

I wish it said something nice and poetic, but all it says is I should have been a blue collar man.

Long nights, impossible odds
Keeping my back to the wall
If it takes all that to be just what I am ...

I guess this is the more flattering part:
"Few personality types are as bold and practical as Virtuosos. Known for their technical mastery and willingness to improvise, Virtuosos are good at finding unique solutions to seemingly impossible challenges. Virtuosos’ desire to explore and learn new things is invaluable in many areas, including their own personal growth."

Long nights, impossible odds ... :laff:

[Teacher Terry]

Actually George the Myers Briggs Type Indicator is used in workplace conflict and marriage counseling. It really helps people to understand differences and see other points of view.

[GeorgeParker]

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i was IN something. I didnt capture the screen.

wow that Identity one is pretty damn high. Haha, guess i’m not surprised.If that is your score, it would be INTP-A

[GeorgeParker]

Actually George the Myers Briggs Type Indicator is used in workplace conflict and marriage counseling. It really helps people to understand differences and see other points of view.I'm aware of how the MB test is used, and I stand by what I said: Most people lie on personality tests, consciously or unconsciously. Therefore they are all bogus because they reflect only what the person thinks the tester wants to hear or what the person believes about themself instead of reality. If you want to get a more realistic personality score, have 5 people who know the person very well fill out the test the way they think he/she would. That would be much more informative for both the tester and the person being tested.

[Teacher Terry]

Teaching was my retirement job. Thanks but I don’t need advice on how to administer or use tests as one of my 3 graduate degrees is in this field as well as my 25 year career. I won’t bother to mention how it was used vocationally since you appear to know all about personality tests.

[mschrisgo2]

This is so interesting … for many years, 30+, I was an INTJ. Then about 3 years ago, I tested as an INTP. This test pegs me as an INFP. I guess I can attribute the changes to having been retired for 4 years now, and apparently sliding into being the “real me,” as opposed to the personality I used as a classroom teacher.

[ApatheticNoMore]

I think the ISTP shift is kind of about frustration and powerlessness. I mean even powerlessness isn't always frustrating but it entirely depends on if there is much at stake. If not much is it can be amusing. But powerlessness in a global pandemic (most of us are) etc.. And then one just wants to control that which one can control which is a deeply practical state of mind. And so one wants to bake bread. Or one is a maker or whatever it says I am (most of which I probably don't even have the money to fully be :)). Or one just tries to bend what actual circumstances they can in their favor, and also there is a desire to feel in control of *something* (the bread I guess or fixing something or whatever)

[GeorgeParker]

Teaching was my retirement job. Thanks but I don’t need advice on how to administer or use tests as one of my 3 graduate degrees is in this field as well as my 25 year career. I won’t bother to mention how it was used vocationally since you appear to know all about personality tests.I wasn't giving advice. Just reaffirming my opinion, which you seemed to be disagreeing with.

I'm not an expert on personality testing, but I've taken a heck of a lot of them as part of the pre-employment process at various companies, and everybody tries to make themself look good.

It is also well known how often and how well we deceive ourselves on self assessments. Everyone is, in their own opinion, more honest, intelligent, moral, industrious, etc than average. It's called the Lake Wobegon effect (as you no doubt already know) https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110810105237549 So I'm surprised you seem to be disagreeing with my statement that everyone lies on personality tests, either consciously or unconsciously.

[catherine]

I didn't lie, at least consciously. I made a "searching and fearless inventory of myself" before answering each and every question :)
After all, this was just a fun game for our purposes on this forum. What do I have to gain by lying to myself? And I'm sure past the point of trying to impress y'all.

[ApatheticNoMore]

I'm not an expert on personality testing, but I've taken a heck of a lot of them as part of the pre-employment process at various companies, and everybody tries to make themself look good.

that's the whole thing then, the use of personality test should be banned in employment screening. And of course if taking a test then one will answer whatever they think the employer wants to hear.

[razz]

I didn't lie, at least consciously. I made a "searching and fearless inventory of myself" before answering each and every question :)
After all, this was just a fun game for our purposes on this forum. What do I have to gain by lying to myself? And I'm sure past the point of trying to impress y'all.

Covers my thinking as well.

[iris lilies]

This is so interesting … for many years, 30+, I was an INTJ. Then about 3 years ago, I tested as an INTP. This test pegs me as an INFP. I guess I can attribute the changes to having been retired for 4 years now, and apparently sliding into being the “real me,” as opposed to the personality I used as a classroom teacher.

Oh yeah, I answer it as I want to. Just as I answer in life only to those I wanna answer to. Retirement is great.

[iris lilies]

If that is your score, it would be INTP-A
So I am Alan’s twin. I guess You all are not surprised by this. :~)


I don’t know how this is different from Myers Briggs and I don’t want to delve into it. I know I’m always “ I N something something” but I don’t remember what the last two characters mean mean.

[GeorgeParker]

I didn't lie, at least consciously. I made a "searching and fearless inventory of myself" before answering each and every question :)
After all, this was just a fun game for our purposes on this forum. What do I have to gain by lying to myself? And I'm sure past the point of trying to impress y'all.I didn't lie on this one either, at least not consciously, but I sure have lied on a lot of personality tests given to me by employers, and I'd do it again.

Staying within the spirit of this thread (Please Explain This To Me) maybe you, as a professional, can explain to me why testers always say "There are no right or wrong answers. We just want to understand you better so we can place you in the right job/department/whatever" when it's totally transparent that how you answer will influence whether or not they hire you.

Same thing with psychologists/therapists who say "There are no right or wrong answers, I just want to understand you better so I can help you" when anyone with common sense knows the answers you give will instantly get you labeled (rightly or wrongly) as being in this or that disease category, after which you'll always be viewed as a mental/emotional illness instead of a unique, idiosyncratic person. Or at best you'll always be viewed as a person with a specific mental/emotional illness, and everything you do or say will be considered a symptom of that illness, even if it clearly isn't. :(

OOPS!!! I forgot which thread I was in. :|( But it's still a valid question: Why do people say "There are no right or wrong answers" when obviously there are?

[GeorgeParker]

that's the whole thing then, the use of personality test should be banned in employment screening. And of course if taking a test then one will answer whatever they think the employer wants to hear.A running joke among low-level employees is that the real reason potential employers give you a personality test is because they figure if you're not smart enough to give them the answers they want, you're too dumb to hire. ;)

[Tybee]

I didn't lie and I didn't try to make myself sound better than I really was. Why bother? I was curious to see what it said I was, and it seemed to say exactly what the Meyers Briggs always said about me.

I don't like these for employment purposes, but hey, at 65, how many more of them will I have to take?

[Teacher Terry]

I am against using personality testing for employment. Used in a clinical setting it can be very helpful for example in marriage counseling. Once people understand that their spouse sees things differently because of personality type it helps them to move forward in therapy with less blame and lead to long term understanding.

I also used it vocationally because different personality types link to job categories. It’s one tool used in career exploration. When I have administered the Myers Briggs to clients people are mostly surprised how accurately it describes them. These clients are all voluntary so no motivation to lie. Vocationally a person doesn’t want the test to identify job categories that they have no interest in. You can not use this test to diagnose. In workplaces it can be used productively much as it’s used in marriage counseling and to help co-workers understand each other. I have used it in all these settings. There are no right/wrong answers when used in these settings.

[catherine]

I didn't lie on this one either, at least not consciously, but I sure have lied on a lot of personality tests given to me by employers, and I'd do it again.

Staying within the spirit of this thread (Please Explain This To Me) maybe you, as a professional, can explain to me why testers always say "There are no right or wrong answers.

I just said those exact words just 60 minutes ago to a market research interviewee! But that's different than employment. I want to hear exactly what the interviewee thinks, and as far as that goes, there's no wrong answers. Sometimes interviewees apologize for being "too candid" but I tell them to bring it on! That's what I love to hear! I don't want people who are trying to soft-peddle their feelings.

But as for the topic of there being no right or wrong answers in employment situations, there are times when the results of a Myers-Briggs can give a manager insight as to how to most effectively manage a particular personality type. So, because I'm a "mediator" maybe my boss would do well not to be too aggressive with negative feedback for instance. Or when I had project managers under me, knowing that someone preferred to work on their own vs collaboratively would help me when assigning them projects. It's just a tool--a compass for effective management, IMHO.

[GeorgeParker]

I am against using personality testing for employment. Used in a clinical setting it can be very helpful for example in marriage counseling. Once people understand that their spouse sees things differently because of personality type it helps them to move forward in therapy with less blame and lead to long term understanding. At least we agree on that point.


Vocationally a person doesn’t want the test to identify job categories that they have no interest in.We also agree about that.


You can not use this test to diagnose.I would agree with that too if you had said "should not" instead of "can not". A personality test given to a child or teenager can easily get them labeled as "too aggressive" or "too shy" or "too judgmental" or "inferiority complex" and shaking that label can be just as hard as shaking a report card that says "Does not play well with others."

[GeorgeParker]

But as for the topic of there being no right or wrong answers in employment situations, there are times when the results of a Myers-Briggs can give a manager insight as to how to most effectively manage a particular personality type. It's just a tool--a compass for effective management, IMHO.I'm a hundred times more cynical than you. And I have good reasons for being a hundred times more cynical. But I think we've both made our point. So, nuff said on this subject.

[Teacher Terry]

I am not aware of personality tests being used with children. However, I only worked with children as a social worker not in the evaluation field. I took testing classes in the school psychologist program and none at the time involved these types of personality tests. I would be against using them with this population. Regardless diagnosis requires certain tests designed for that purpose as well as a professional with the required education and licensing. It’s serious business with legal risks. It’s why everyone in the field carries malpractice insurance besides what your employer provides. Working with adults you are looking for vocational strengths so you can build off of those. Most people can identify their weakness but tests also show them.

[GeorgeParker]

I am not aware of personality tests being used with children. However, I only worked with children as a social worker not in the evaluation field. I took testing classes in the school psychologist program and none at the time involved these types of personality tests. I would be against using them with this population.That's something else we agree on.

Things are probably different now than they were when I was a kid in the 1950s. But back then it was common for a teacher to sit down with each student one on one at some point and casually chitchat while asking questions like "If you could do this or that, which would you choose?" and "When you play with your friends at home, who chooses what you're going to do?" followed by "Why is that?" or a similar question. In retrospect, those were clearly personality profile questions. I'm not saying there was anything sinister about it, but they were definitely profiling us and classifying us with the intention of "fixing" whatever they decided was "wrong" with us.

This song Harry Chafin wrote in 1978 seems appropriate:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qrbNygL0YU

BTW in the 1950s "in loco parentis" was the absolute rule. Whatever an elementary school teacher would have done with her own child under any given circumstance was what they did. That was good most of the time, because they would mother us or discipline us appropriately, including the occasional light spanking. But sometimes students would complain bitterly about a teacher having stricter rules or less sympathy than their parents, and when they did their parents would tell them "Her house, her rules." So then they'd complain to all their classmates about both the teacher and their parents, and we would all nod sympathetically. :)

[rosarugosa]

ISTJ-A Logistician for me.

[happystuff]

ENFJ-A Assertive Protagonist for me.

[ApatheticNoMore]

A running joke among low-level employees is that the real reason potential employers give you a personality test is because they figure if you're not smart enough to give them the answers they want, you're too dumb to hire.

yea it is low level jobs that do personality tests for the most part (though I've encountered exceptions). Probably why I learned very early on I wasn't suited for low level jobs. I mean that sounds a bit much, but other than one job which was okay, I was neither good at getting nor keeping low level jobs.

[Teacher Terry]

People that are smart usually don’t do well at low level jobs because they are so bored. My siblings were in school during the 50’s and IQ tests were routinely used. Ugh!

[GeorgeParker]

My siblings were in school during the 50’s and IQ tests were routinely used. Ugh!Here is an IQ test question that is no longer used:


"Two of these things belong together. Which two are they? Cup, Fork, Spoon, Saucer."

Most of the poor kids in early grades (which also meant most of the minority kids) got that question wrong, and their wrong answer was usually cup and spoon. Even though those kids had probably heard of saucers, neither they nor anyone in their neighborhood used them because saucers cost money. So obviously a cup and a spoon to stir it with was the logical answer.

IOW the traditional IQ tests were mostly a test of how much knowledge of white middle-class American culture a child had acquired compared to typical white middle-class kids of the same age, so poor kids and minority kids routinely scored lower than non-poor kids. And it took decades for the powers that be to recognize/admit the IQ tests were biased and remove questions like that.

IIRC it was said at the time that if a boy growing up in New York City and an Iowa farm boy each created an IQ test and gave it to the other boy, they would both fail miserably. IMHO the same would have been true (at least in the 1950s) if a girl and boy living a few miles apart did that, because they would be living such different lives and have such a different knowledgebase.

[Teacher Terry]

That question is infamous. A lot of research, money, etc have went into testing to prevent those types of biases.

[iris lilies]

I remember reading Ruby Payne’s test about being poor from her book A Framework for understanding Poverty.

It was a test targeted to middle-class teachers and social workers who work with poor kids to open their eyes about that life in low income families. There were questions like: do you know which thrift store has half-price day and when? Do you know how to entertain your friends with your personality? ( no one has any money for restaurant, bars, etc.)
I know that it opened my eyes quite a lot 30 years ago.

[GeorgeParker]

That question is infamous. A lot of research, money, etc have went into testing to prevent those types of biases.We hope.