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Need to speak clearly that they no longer support their party’s leader if they want the rest of us to believe that they are not the party of radical Insurrectionists who want to overthrow the government if it’s convenient for them. The traitors of January 6th are not being persecuted and his sad sack sore loser support of them needs to be repudiated firmly and without equivocation.
Trump in his written statement Thursday, said, "Our hearts and minds are with the people being persecuted so unfairly relating to the January 6th protest concerning the Rigged Presidential Election."
iris lilies
9-16-21, 10:06pm
Why is Donald Trump is taking up so much space in your head JP?
Why is Donald Trump is taking up so much space in your head JP?
Because whether of not you like it he’s still the head of the Republican Party.
And until we see someone like Mitch McConnell confront him publicly that will be the case.
Because whether of not you like it he’s still the head of the Republican Party.So if I remember correctly you also hated Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 but I'm assuming Trump tops the list for you. I can understand if it's something about Trump's personality that you abhor but you gotta admit it also seems like a trend.
So if I remember correctly you also hated Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 but I'm assuming Trump tops the list for you. I can understand if it's something about Trump's personality that you abhor but you gotta admit it also seems like a trend.
Actually it’s the fact that each one has been worse than the past one. I can hardly wait for the next Republican jackass that gets nominated. Perhaps deathsantis? Surprised you didn’t mention Nixon. Another Republican ‘winner’.
Actually it’s the fact that each one has been worse than the past one. I can hardly wait for the next Republican jackass that gets nominated. Perhaps deathsantis? Surprised you didn’t mention Nixon. Another Republican ‘winner’.I didn't mention Nixon because I suspect you weren't politically aware during his administration. I am glad to see though that the only commonality between them all is that they were Republicans and that's enough for you. You gotta admire someone who can maintain that sort of bias for a lifetime.
I didn't mention Nixon because I suspect you weren't politically aware during his administration. I am glad to see though that the only commonality between them all is that they were Republicans and that's enough for you. You gotta admire someone who can maintain that sort of bias for a lifetime.
The commonality is that their shame didn’t involve lying about a blow job which seems to be super important to the prude party. And maybe Bush 41’s only shame was that he was honest about taxes. But then that cost him re-election. And ford’s only shame is that he didn’t let Nixon go to prison as he should have. Which appears to have been the worst shame of all in hindsight.
But at the end of the day do you, Alan, think the traitors from January 6 are victims or should they be going to jail? That will tell us all we need to know.
At last we agree on something JP. I don't like Charlie Baker and he's a Republican.
But at the end of the day do you, Alan, think the traitors from January 6 are victims or should they be going to jail? That will tell us all we need to know.
I think everyone who commits violence against another outside the bounds of self defense or defense of another should be subject to prosecution, regardless of their political persuasion.
I think everyone who commits violence against another outside the bounds of self defense or defense of another should be subject to prosecution, regardless of their political persuasion.
Good. It’s a shame that most of our Republican politicians don’t feel the same way.
Good. It’s a shame that most of our Republican politicians don’t feel the same way.Have you polled them or did some TV propagandist tell you that?
I’m sure Trump appreciates jp’s efforts to keep his legend alive, but I don’t think we need to worry about where the next bogeyman will come from. If history teaches us anything, is that there will always be another one in the pipeline. It appears Ron Desantis is already being groomed for the role.
iris lilies
9-17-21, 9:30am
But at the end of the day do you, Alan, think the traitors from January 6 are victims or should they be going to jail? That will tell us all we need to know.
I am not Alan, but the people who rioted in Washington D.C.and threateing politicians there, and damaging government property, need to be prosecuted for their crimes.
I would like to see the same thing happened to rioters and damagers here, but there is little political will for it.
Trumpism is an ongoing problem.
Adam Kinzinger is one of the few decent Republicans who have called Trump and his bootlickers out on the Big Lie. We need more like him.
iris lilies
9-17-21, 11:53am
Jp, are you at all cheered at the thought of many oldster Trumpers becoming incapacitated by Covid19 because they are not vaccinated? I dont mean “cheered” as in happy they they are sick or dead, but “ cheered” because they won't be voting.
iris lilies
9-17-21, 11:55am
I’m sure Trump appreciates jp’s efforts to keep his legend alive, but I don’t think we need to worry about where the next bogeyman will come from. If history teaches us anything, is that there will always be another one in the pipeline. It appears Ron Desantis is already being groomed for the role.
God this is exactly right, Donald Trump is thrilled that Donald Trump resides in jp’s head, “keeping his legend alive.”
let it go, bro. It is best for you, for me, and for our country.
Have you polled them or did some TV propagandist tell you that?
When Ron Johnson says things like “by and large, it was peaceful protest,” while arguing that “it wasn’t… an insurrection.” and “To say there were thousands of armed insurrectionists breaching the Capitol intent on overthrowing the government is just simply a false narrative.” I take him at his word. And in this case he's an anti-American shitbag lying to protect the leader of his party. But I'm sure Wisconsin's republican voters are perfectly fine with that.
God this is exactly right, Donald Trump is thrilled that Donald Trump resides in jp’s head, “keeping his legend alive.”
let it go, bro. It is best for you, for me, and for our country.
No, what's best for our country is to make sure that republicans are never again allowed to try and steal an election with their lies about voter fraud. It's wishful thinking to pretend that if the republicans had controlled the house that they would not have installed trump as the dictator in January. And if they get a chance to try again under those circumstances it's perfectly reasonable to expect that they will do so. I really don't want to be coming here in 3 1/2 or 7 1/2 years to say "I told you so."
When Ron Johnson says things like “by and large, it was peaceful protest,” while arguing that “it wasn’t… an insurrection.” and “To say there were thousands of armed insurrectionists breaching the Capitol intent on overthrowing the government is just simply a false narrative.” I take him at his word.
I suppose by that you mean to say you reject everything he said in much the same way you rejected similar Democratic statements during every riot in every Democratic stronghold across the country over the past several years. Wait, you did reject those too didn't you?
I suppose by that you mean to say you reject everything he said in much the same way you rejected similar Democratic statements during every riot in every Democratic stronghold across the country over the past several years. Wait, you did reject those too didn't you?
You're right. A random CVS getting looted somewhere is just as important as the seat of our government being ransacked by the traitor party's leader's supporters on one of the most important days of the legislature's quadrennial calendar.
You're right. A random CVS getting looted somewhere is just as important as the seat of our government being ransacked by the traitor party's leader's supporters on one of the most important days of the legislature's quadrennial calendar.
I think we discussed this when protestors were attempting to burn down a government building in Portland a year or so ago, remind me again, what did you say about that mostly peaceful protest?
I think we discussed this when protestors were attempting to burn down a government building in Portland a year or so ago, remind me again, what did you say about that mostly peaceful protest?
Have they arrested 600+ people for that? If not is it because there weren’t that many involved? Was the building occupied by virtually all of our federally elected officials at the time? How many law
Enforcement officers had to go to the hospital after defending that building? Was it more than 15 as happened on January 6?
iris lilies
9-17-21, 7:22pm
Have they arrested 600+ people for that? If not is it because there weren’t that many involved? Was the building occupied by virtually all of our federally elected officials at the time? How many law
Enforcement officers had to go to the hospital after defending that building? Was it more than 15 as happened on January 6?
Injury to police officers and security personnel are now a measure of severity of riot?
Hunh, I didn’t get that memo. Boy it is hard to keep up.
Injury to police officers and security personnel are now a measure of severity of riot?
Hunh, I didn’t get that memo. Boy it is hard to keep up.
Among the other things I mentioned. I also deem a riot intended to overthrow the government to be more severe. But from what I can tell republicans don’t seem to care much about the government so I guess maybe that’s a partisan thing that only affects democrats opinions about riots.
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