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gimmethesimplelife
11-11-21, 12:47pm
The grocery chain I work for operates a Hispanic focused chain along with it's main operation. There is a grocery store in Nogales, Arizona a few blocks north of the border that is part of the Hispanic chain.
Point? At some future date I may be able to transfer there. This idea really works for me. Nogales is much less expensive than Phoenix, and I'd be right there for medical and dental in Mexico. I love the climate there at 3,900 feet - there are four clear cut seasons and a little snow most years. I can see myself living there - and SO also has family on the Mexican side.
Right now I'm going nowhere - but this idea could actually happen. What do you'all think? Rob
herbgeek
11-11-21, 12:57pm
What's stopping you from doing this now? Its not a far drive in case you need to come back to take care of things in Phoenix.
gimmethesimplelife
11-11-21, 1:04pm
What's stopping you from doing this now? Its not a far drive in case you need to come back to take care of things in Phoenix.No open positions plus.the fact that my Mother is getting on in years and has balance problems. My living in Phoenix win't help her balance issues - but she has sacrificed for me in the past and I'm just the kind of person who wants to be there just in case. Rob
happystuff
11-11-21, 1:10pm
Sounds good. It's nice to have future possibilities to think about. And kudos for being there for your mom!!!
I haven't a clue why but my brother who used to live in Bisbee as a border patrol agent used to call Nogales "the armpit."
I say if you want to go to Nogales, do so sooner rather than later, and then move your mom to be with you in Nogales!
gimmethesimplelife
11-11-21, 8:42pm
I haven't a clue why but my brother who used to live in Bisbee as a border patrol agent used to call Nogales "the armpit."My guess is that the Tucson Sector as it's called is one of the busier human trafficking and drug smugling routes. Rob
iris lilies
11-11-21, 8:48pm
I haven't a clue why but my brother who used to live in Bisbee as a border patrol agent used to call Nogales "the armpit."
I thought that was El Paso.
gimmethesimplelife
11-11-21, 9:12pm
I thought that was El Paso.The most "active" sectors change from time to time as US CBP is spread thin and can only intercept so many drugs/so many would be migrants. Some years it has been the San Diego area, some years El Paso and some years the Tucson sector, of which the area outside of Nogales is constantly hopping.....
Intetesting fact though.....I'm about to pull a 180 on you'all. Nogales AZ shares something with El Paso. Both cities are crawling with law enforcement of all stripes and in this case this may actually be a GOOD thing..
That was not a typo and I'm not hitting a crack pipe. You never hear of police brutality in Nogales, AZ.....except from US CBP. And I do know a few people on the Arizona side of Ambos Nogales. It truly does seem that other than for US CBP, law enforcement seems to behave themselves by adhering to the law - unlike in Phoenix where our PD is actively being investigated by the DOJ. Rob
gimmethesimplelife
11-11-21, 9:22pm
A lovely and fun area!No snark. By US standards it's inexpensive, safe within the city limits, it's small, it's quirky - the lower cost of living tends to attract some characters, and produce coming up from Mexico is cheaper than in Phoenix. As I said, the climate there works for me too.....3,900 ft means winter, guaranteed hard freezes every year, multiple times. Summers are much less obnoxious than in Phoenix, and many fruit trees grow there that don't make it in Phoenix.
Of.cource at this point I don't need to go on about the blessing of quality health care at my doorstep at Mexican border prices. It just seems like a great compromise and it's realistically feasible. And SO would be close to family in el otro lado. Rob
gimmethesimplelife
11-11-21, 9:23pm
Sounds good. It's nice to have future possibilities to think about. And kudos for being there for your mom!!!Thank You. Rob
No, I didn’t mean it in a snarky way!
iris lilies
11-11-21, 10:05pm
No snark. By US standards it's inexpensive, safe within the city limits, it's small, it's quirky - the lower cost of living tends to attract some characters, and produce coming up from Mexico is cheaper than in Phoenix. As I said, the climate there works for me too.....3,900 ft means winter, guaranteed hard freezes every year, multiple times. Summers are much less obnoxious than in Phoenix, and many fruit trees grow there that don't make it in Phoenix.
Of.cource at this point I don't need to go on about the blessing of quality health care at my doorstep at Mexican border prices. It just seems like a great compromise and it's realistically feasible. And SO would be close to family in el otro lado. Rob
The climate sounds fine. A hard freeze is a wonderful thing in many ways.
You couldn’t pay me to live in Phoenix.
The climate sounds fine. A hard freeze is a wonderful thing in many ways.
You couldn’t pay me to live in Phoenix.
It's interesting. As people here may recall I've mentioned before the possibility of Palm Springs as a retirement destination for SO and I. Now that we live in a part of the Bay Area that actually has sun and warmth steadily all summer I'm not so sure that I would like that. The six months of nonstop summer was amazing but I'm actually enjoying the radical weather change we've seen over the past month. (Rain on a few days and high temps mostly in the 60's, and some days where there are actual clouds in the sky). It's the first time since moving to California that I can actually tell the difference in the two seasons. In San Francisco winter is just like summer except that it rains once in a while in the winter and there are more sunny days. But in general the weather in the city sucks about 90% of the time year round.
iris lilies
11-12-21, 9:03am
It's interesting. As people here may recall I've mentioned before the possibility of Palm Springs as a retirement destination for SO and I. Now that we live in a part of the Bay Area that actually has sun and warmth steadily all summer I'm not so sure that I would like that. The six months of nonstop summer was amazing but I'm actually enjoying the radical weather change we've seen over the past month. (Rain on a few days and high temps mostly in the 60's, and some days where there are actual clouds in the sky). It's the first time since moving to California that I can actually tell the difference in the two seasons. In San Francisco winter is just like summer except that it rains once in a while in the winter and there are more sunny days. But in general the weather in the city sucks about 90% of the time year round.
Jp really? I don’t know, I was an SF twice, both times in July, and one time it struck me as odd how cold and rainy it was, but I do remember much of the weather being quite pleasant for most of my stays.
JaneV2.0
11-12-21, 12:45pm
I was in San Francisco a couple of times for work, and it was 80-90 degrees both times. Odd. Don't ask me about Sacramento...:0!
mschrisgo2
11-12-21, 6:00pm
My mother still says, “the longest winter I ever spent was the 7.5 years we lived in San Francisco.”
If you're ever in San Francisco in July/August you will undoubtedly be able to recognize the tourists. They are the people who, when they were packing, thought, "July/August. California. Shorts and short sleeve shirts will be fine." And then they got here. And bought some sort of san francisco themed sweatshirt or hoodie while they were at fisherman's wharf. SO and I were those people a couple of years before we moved here.
If you're planning a vacation here come in September. You're most likely to experience a few of the 10-20 days when it actually gets really really warm each year.
And our experience was worse than what tourists experience because we lived on the cold and foggy side of town. When I worked in the financial district I would get up to a cold foggy morning, get on a lightrail train to downtown and when I came out of the station it'd be a bright sunny day. On the way home the opposite would happen. I'd go from bright sunny day downtown to cold foggy day at home, a 20 minute train ride away. Where we are in the suburbs the average high temperature in the summer is about 20 degrees warmer than it was in the city and because we have a ridge between us and the ocean here we almost never get fog.
I was in San Francisco a couple of times for work, and it was 80-90 degrees both times. Odd. Don't ask me about Sacramento...:0!
That reminds me of the first time I ever went to Seattle. A two week vacation in late july back in the early 90's. The weather was stunning. And my friend and I had an amazing time. So much fun! In the cab ride to the airport at the end of the trip I commented to the cab driver that I thought that the claims of rainy dreariness were just a lie to keep everyone from moving there because we had absolutely loved it.
Now that I've been there many many times for work, during all times of the year, I have a different opinion of the weather there...
JaneV2.0
11-12-21, 10:02pm
It's overcast a lot here, and though it's raining now, there's less rainfall than you'd think. All in all, the Seattle climate is delightful.
ApatheticNoMore
11-12-21, 10:20pm
Winter is just a break of a few months from RELENTLESS hotness here. A few months of overall decent weather.
It's overcast a lot here, and though it's raining now, there's less rainfall than you'd think. All in all, the Seattle climate is delightful.
If one likes drizzly gray days day after day, sure. I’d much rather have Portland than either Seattle or San Francisco.
JaneV2.0
11-13-21, 12:44am
If one likes drizzly gray days day after day, sure. I’d much rather have Portland than either Seattle or San Francisco.
Portland is a little more extreme, but I'd be OK with that, too--minus the periodic ice storms.
gimmethesimplelife
11-13-21, 9:55pm
Portland is a little more extreme, but I'd be OK with that, too--minus the periodic ice storms.I remember those ice storms and the blasts of wintry air coming from the Colombia River Gorge. I can remember in 1994, an ice storm that meant business folliwed by 5 inches of snow and three days completely below 32F. It was a nice change from constant gray drizzle - but I prefer sort of temperate steppe climates such as Nogales. I'll take Portland weather any day over Phoenix weather, though. Lol - I even have experience dealing with 116F days from my years in Phoenix.....Rob
iris lilies
11-14-21, 1:34pm
Other than the oppressive heat and humidity on many summer days July-September, I am satisfied with our weather here. It seems to be a nice mix of overcast and sunnny days.
ToomuchStuff
11-15-21, 9:56am
What is the housing like there? Skyrocketing like so many areas?
Traveled in the area a few times as my company has a manufacturing facility on the Mexico side. My boss lived there for 5 years in Rio Rico which is just north of Nogales on the American side. Great weather, beautiful area IMHO but one thing my boss mentioned was his wife being very bothered by Border Patrol agents running around presumably chasing down migrants/drug gangs. That definitely was a downside and one of the reasons his wife wanted out of there.
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