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gimmethesimplelife
12-24-21, 5:50pm
To my tenant and his girlfriend. They are both mildly sick and to date, covid seems to be being kind to them. But we're all wearing masks indoors at the house now and my Mother and my in laws will not be coming over for my famous Moroccan vegetarian stew tomorrow. Just to be safe(r).

Very ironic timing too as yesterday I received my booster shot and $125 for my office visit to the Pfizer trial folks.

What can I do? I did leave raw garlic and oil of oregano pills outside their door. So far it looks as if this is not going to be a covid horror story. Rob

Yppej
12-24-21, 7:59pm
So what does wearing a mask indoors at home look like? Do you sleep with it on? Eat outside?

bae
12-24-21, 8:09pm
So what does wearing a mask indoors at home look like? Do you sleep with it on? Eat outside?

I bet after two years you could be presumed to understand the protocols, in a living situation where there are shared communal spaces.

Well, I mean, a normal person would understand, I retract my bet about you.

iris lilies
12-24-21, 9:46pm
Rob I hope all in your household don’t get terribly sick with this.

gimmethesimplelife
12-24-21, 10:50pm
Rob I hope all in your household don’t get terribly sick with this.IL, Thank You. I will get tested along with my Cousin and SO on the 26th. So far in the house itself there are no symptoms. Rob

Tybee
12-24-21, 10:52pm
Stay strong, Rob; my son's family was just at a dinner party with someone who tested positive the next day, and none of his family got it, thank God. Glad you are getting tested.

Teacher Terry
12-25-21, 1:21am
Hoping all goes well for all of you.

rosarugosa
12-25-21, 8:33am
I hope everyone is okay, and the garlic will help to ward off vampires as well. ;)

Yppej
12-25-21, 8:50am
I bet after two years you could be presumed to understand the protocols, in a living situation where there are shared communal spaces.

Well, I mean, a normal person would understand, I retract my bet about you.

Snarky, snarky.

I have never had to quarantine at home. I am good at keeping my distance from other people. I also work in a rural area that attracts people who like to keep their distance from others. So I do not have the exposure of people who live in sardine conditions.

happystuff
12-25-21, 10:42am
So sorry, Rob. I hope everyone stays well.

We have also had to cancel all our holiday plans as the neighbor next door tested positive - my one lax moment of not wearing a mask. I wasn't in contact with him, but unmasked and not social distanced from spouse and kids. Spouse doesn't get tested until tomorrow and my household has most of us getting tested in a few days. Staying home so as not to risk any potential infection to anyone else.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

nswef
12-25-21, 11:49am
We're home, too. My niece(24) has covid and is on 10 day quarantine. She is vaccinated, boosted and masked much of the time. My sister called to postpone Christmas. They will get tested Sunday. Disappointing. We decided to not go to another event and I am SO GLAD! They posted a photo on Facebook- 20 people and at least one I KNOW is not vaccinated. The neighbor put eggs outside on our grill and a darling Christmas card from the 7 year old girl. Made my day! Merry Christmas everyone. I'm grateful for this forum and all of you who contribute!

Yppej
12-25-21, 12:02pm
We're home, too. My niece(24) has covid and is on 10 day quarantine. She is vaccinated, boosted and masked much of the time. My sister called to postpone Christmas. They will get tested Sunday. Disappointing. We decided to not go to another event and I am SO GLAD! They posted a photo on Facebook- 20 people and at least one I KNOW is not vaccinated. The neighbor put eggs outside on our grill and a darling Christmas card from the 7 year old girl. Made my day! Merry Christmas everyone. I'm grateful for this forum and all of you who contribute!

What does it matter that one person is not vaccinated if even the vaccinated and boosted get the disease?

Really we need a new term. A vaccine is something that prevents people from catching or transmitting a disease. What we have now does neither. It should be relabelled a prophylactic treatment to cut down on the severity of disease.

herbgeek
12-25-21, 12:39pm
A vaccine is something that prevents people from catching or transmitting a disease.

I don't think you really understand what a vaccine does/doesn't do. It's not a binary/switch/zero or one sort of thing. Its not if you take one, you will never get the disease when exposed. It reduces the risk- the percentage varies. We don't need a new term.

gimmethesimplelife
12-27-21, 12:13am
So we got tested today and interestingly enough, my Cousin tested positive. She has left for an entirely contactless Air b and b rental in Tucson. Great place for her as she works remotely for American Express. As of my call a half hour ago she has no symptoms.

Wow, though. I remember starting the Coronavirus thread back when there was there was just one known case in Arizona and here this unwelcome virus is at my doorstep. Just WOW. Praying for.my Cousin. She does seem well right now,.though. Rob

Tybee
12-27-21, 4:30am
Praying she stays safe, Rob. Glad she has figured out a way to be isolated.

happystuff
12-27-21, 11:51am
Hopefully your cousin will remain symptom-free. Prayers to all.

gimmethesimplelife
12-28-21, 12:13pm
Thanks everyone for the kind words and good wishes. My Cousin is still symptom free as of an hour ago. My tenant and his girlfriend are isolating the guesthouse and life is going on.

As of this moment, this is not a covid horror story - hoping and praying it stays this way. Rob

gimmethesimplelife
12-28-21, 2:28pm
Bad news folks. Our tenant is now at the covid wing at St. Joe's on 3rd and Thomas. He's on oxygen and it's pretty serious. I recommend taking this virus seriously folks - I talked to him yesterday morning across my.yard and he only had mild symptoms then.

This thing can move FAST. Thank God SO and have had the three Pfizer shots is all I can say. Work EVEN SENT ME HOME until I get a 2nd test. Thankfully I've been hoarding OT money and don't need to dip into PTO. And why am I worrying about money right now faced with covid?

We're both getting retested. And I'm glad my Cousin is in Tucson - she's doing OK but this virus can turn on.a dime it seems. Rob

bae
12-28-21, 2:39pm
My neighbor and his wife, both vaccinated/boosted and careful, managed to contract COVID at a family gathering, even though everyone had tested negative before the gathering with quick lateral-flow tests. He's doing OK-ish, we had to med-evac his wife yesterday as she was going downhill very very fast. And hospital beds in the region are drying up fast.

Both were in otherwise good health and had no lifestyle factors.

Be careful out there.

gimmethesimplelife
12-28-21, 2:39pm
Just a wish for us all on this board. Though I've only met a couple of you I wish everyone the best....please take this virus seriously. I've just had a harsh life lesson in how covid can turn on a dime. Rob

iris lilies
12-28-21, 2:58pm
My neighbor and his wife, both vaccinated/boosted and careful, managed to contract COVID at a family gathering, even though everyone had tested negative before the gathering with quick lateral-flow tests. He's doing OK-ish, we had to med-evac his wife yesterday as she was going downhill very very fast. And hospital beds in the region are drying up fast.

Both were in otherwise good health and had no lifestyle factors.

Be careful out there.

Here I can vent. I know someone on another forum who spent $30,000 over two years trying to get pregnant with IVF. Now she’s newly pregnant on the very last possible try. She actually flew across country, airplane/airports to meet with multiple family members over the holidays because she thought that was important. Her family was going to mask up and test. Alrighty then.

I simply cannot grok it. Masking and testing doesn’t do it folks.

We all have our risk threshold and risk assessment, our lifestyles are so different. But I simply. Cannot. Grok. Risking a high risk pregnancy for holiday family cheer.

In that situation I MIGHT meet up with family members if I could drive to see them and we were all meeting outside.

Tradd
12-28-21, 7:38pm
Here I can vent. I know someone on another forum who spent $30,000 over two years trying to get pregnant with IVF. Now she’s newly pregnant on the very last possible try. She actually flew across country, airplane/airports to meet with multiple family members over the holidays because she thought that was important. Her family was going to mask up and test. Alrighty then.

I simply cannot grok it. Masking and testing doesn’t do it folks.

We all have our risk threshold and risk assessment, our lifestyles are so different. But I simply. Cannot. Grok. Risking a high risk pregnancy for holiday family cheer.

In that situation I MIGHT meet up with family members if I could drive to see them and we were all meeting outside.

Yikes. I would have to say she could have made better choices.

Teacher Terry
12-29-21, 2:11pm
IL, it was funded by her mom and yes I think she was a idiot. Her boys wanted to go and I think many parents now days are unable to tell their kids no. I think with omicron being so contagious that we are all going to get it unfortunately.

bae
12-29-21, 2:25pm
Well, if you want "special" covid travel stories....

My ~28 year old niece is currently engaged in a 6 month long mental health treatment program, which requires 20+ hours of sessions a week, and only allows her to work 20 hours, at a job they helped arrange for her. She is halfway through the program. She has no visible means of support, her family has been paying her bills for several years now.

She is, the first week of January, flying off to Lubbock Texas to marry a young lady she met on the Internet. My niece has met her fiance only twice in person. Her fiance lives in her own parent's basement, and also has no visible means of support. The fiance's family is not at all supportive of the concept. The fiance's family is not keen on vaccinations, and thinks covid is a hoax, also. After the wedding, the niece is flying back home the next day to finish up her treatment program...

Setting aside the relationship issues, the thought of flying off to Texas for a two-day quickie wedding, with a herd of anti-vax Texans, seems daft to me.

iris lilies
12-29-21, 3:05pm
IL, it was funded by her mom and yes I think she was a idiot. Her boys wanted to go and I think many parents now days are unable to tell their kids no. I think with omicron being so contagious that we are all going to get it unfortunately.

I suppose we will all get it eventually, sigh.

Yppej
12-29-21, 3:22pm
Yes, many parents are unable to tell their kids no. Look at Ted Cruz last year fleeing his home state during a disaster because his kids asked him to.

JaneV2.0
12-29-21, 3:34pm
A friend's son, young and fully vaxxed, flew home from a holiday visit only to be greeted by his equally careful roommate informing him that he had COVID. He then checked in at work, only to be told that seven of his co-workers were infected. Good grief.

Bae--people never cease to surprise me.

bae
12-29-21, 3:44pm
I suppose we will all get it eventually, sigh.

I think the hope is that we won't all get it in the same month :-)

Rogar
12-29-21, 4:32pm
Although I hope not, it may come down to not whether a person gets sick, but how sick they get. Among the small smattering of people I've know who have had it, none have required a hospital.

I check on the NYT hotspot map by county most days. Counties near me are up just modestly by average cases per 100,000 number. However, the popular ski areas that see a lot of travel in and out from all over, and possibly younger people, are some of the worst counties in the nation.

happystuff
12-29-21, 4:58pm
Got my rapid test today and am negative, but the neighbor I was exposed to tested positive. Guess I was distanced enough and the visit was short enough.

Tybee
12-30-21, 8:10am
Got my rapid test today and am negative, but the neighbor I was exposed to tested positive. Guess I was distanced enough and the visit was short enough.

That's great news!

happystuff
12-30-21, 10:00am
That's great news!

Thanks, yes, it is. I'm getting my booster in about an hour.

Tradd
12-30-21, 12:11pm
Happy, just seeing this now. Great news!

rosarugosa
12-30-21, 4:39pm
Glad to hear it, Happy!
DH and I seem to be dodging exposure bullets all over the place lately. I guess it's to be expected with escalating numbers and not living lives of total isolation. Hoping our luck holds out. We are both fully vaccinated and boosted and wear masks in public. Latest exposure is a co-worker of DH's who went to work yesterday coughing and sneezing, and they work in a hospital! She got tested yesterday and it came back positive. DH had just gotten tested yesterday (negative), so he has to wait 3 days before he can be tested again for that exposure.

ApatheticNoMore
12-30-21, 4:47pm
I half think if I got it I'd be asymptomatic (and no I can not possibly obtain enough very rare self-test kits to test regularly for asymptomatic infection). Maybe I've had it and was asymptomatic. I mean I almost never even get colds. But I take all this back if I'm posting on here horribly sick with covid someday (but 3 shots should prevent the worst of it - and the last one Moderna - for the win).

Simone
1-1-22, 1:03am
My neighbor and his wife, both vaccinated/boosted and careful, managed to contract COVID at a family gathering, even though everyone had tested negative before the gathering with quick lateral-flow tests. He's doing OK-ish, we had to med-evac his wife yesterday as she was going downhill very very fast. And hospital beds in the region are drying up fast.

Both were in otherwise good health and had no lifestyle factors.

Be careful out there.

Frightening. Stay safe, BAE.

gimmethesimplelife
1-1-22, 3:46am
Wonderful news! Our tenant who was on a ventilator was moved to a regular hospital room and is off any machine now. His girlfriend is now testing negative, too, as have we in the house.

Good news to start 2022 with! Rob

Tybee
1-1-22, 9:10am
Wonderful news! Our tenant who was on a ventilator was moved to a regular hospital room and is off any machine now. His girlfriend is now testing negative, too, as have we in the house.

Good news to start 2022 with! Rob
Glad to hear it, Rob!

happystuff
1-1-22, 9:42am
That IS great news for the new year, Rob! Wishing continued improvement in health.

Teacher Terry
1-1-22, 2:41pm
Great news Rob! With the rate at which the numbers are multiplying daily I think everyone will get it.

gimmethesimplelife
1-9-22, 4:00pm
Update/bad news folks. Our tenant has taken a turn for the worse and is not expected to.make it through the day. I genuinely like him. I just wish he had taken covid seriously and had gotten the shots. Please folks - honor this man's upcoming death by taking covid seriously if you are not. This is a (somewhat) unnecessary tragedy and this man leaves behind 3 minor age children.

I'm not in Rob On The Soapbox mode. I just can't understand the logic behind refusing vaccination. Rob

JaneV2.0
1-9-22, 4:02pm
I hate this--it didn't have to happen.

bae
1-9-22, 4:12pm
Sadness, Rob :-(

happystuff
1-9-22, 4:29pm
So sorry, Rob. Praying for all AND a miracle!

iris lilies
1-9-22, 4:52pm
So sad, so maddening.

Yppej
1-9-22, 5:14pm
It is sad. I wonder how much depression plays a role - that people aren't that invested in living. Because if you weigh the risks of vaccination - and they exist, don't believe the public health whitewash - they are for most people much less than the risk of getting covid. But maybe people are getting skewed information. I would live to see debates, like we had between Gore and Perot on NAFTA. When you shut down debate on covid and censor alternative opinions you don't make them go away, you just drive them underground and create suspicion of the censors.

Ultimately people get to make a choice. Just as I support the right to die at the end of life, I do during other times in life. But it would be good if people chose to protect themselves. I like to think that some would come around.

For example, unvaccinated nurses were fired in Rhode Island. Now covid positive nurses are caring for patients because hospitals are so short staffed. Wouldn't it be better to have covid negative unvaccinated nurses working instead? And by viewing the covid surges firsthand maybe some would change their minds. But fire them and alienate them, and what are your chances of ever getting them on board?

Lyndon Johnson had it right - better to have people inside the tent peeing out than outside the tent peeing in.

Tradd
1-9-22, 5:51pm
Sorry to hear, Rob.

Rogar
1-9-22, 6:55pm
That's too bad. A sad event for sure.

catherine
1-9-22, 6:59pm
I'm not in Rob On The Soapbox mode. I just can't understand the logic behind refusing vaccination. Rob

I just had a Zoom get-together with an old colleague of mine, whom I haven't spoken with for many years, but we were close back in the 70s when we both worked for NBC. She is no dummy. But the first thing she said on her catch-up call is that she and her husband are not vaccinated and don't plan to be. However, they do take their societal responsibility seriously, so they stay indoors and isolate. They drove all the way to Chicago from New Jersey to see her mother, but they only visited outdoors.

I didn't get deep into this because it was our conversation opener and I didn't want to close it down quickly, but she seems to believe that her motivation for not getting vaccinated is concern over how quickly it came to market, and that somewhere down the road there could be serious adverse events. So she gargles with Listerine three times a day and takes some OTC product. And orders take-out.

I am very sorry for your friend, Rob. If the ancient Chinese did put that blessing upon us about "May you live in interesting times," we certainly have redeemed that blessing.

herbgeek
1-9-22, 7:12pm
she seems to believe that her motivation for not getting vaccinated is concern over how quickly it came to market, and that somewhere down the road there could be serious adverse events.

That's my husband's hesitation. Even though I showed him a study that showed (so far anyways) any problems with vaccines show up within 90 days. I tend to be conservative with medicines, but not as much as him, which is why I got the J+J. My justification was that the platform used to create this vaccine has been out for a while (> 3 years) and has been used for commercial products before (Ebola). I also have strong reactions to vaccines where others have none or minimal, so wanted just one injection to deal with. I was pleasantly surprised to find that this vaccine is durable unlike the mRNA vaccines. It has lower effectiveness (but still reasonably good), but that doesn't diminish over time, from what I've read.

My spouse is doing the ivermectin/vitamin C/vitamin D/zinc regimen and I've never been so happy that he's naturally a hermit and really doesn't get out much. He's also quite fit, and exercises a lot and eats a good vegetarian diet.

bae
1-9-22, 7:41pm
My spouse is doing the ivermectin/vitamin C/vitamin D/zinc regimen and I've never been so happy that he's naturally a hermit and really doesn't get out much. He's also quite fit, and exercises a lot and eats a good vegetarian diet.

Good luck with that :-(

gimmethesimplelife
1-9-22, 7:57pm
I'm taking zinc and oil of oregano pills. I don't know that zinc and oil of oregano ward off covid - but psychologically I feel that I am doing something. Rob

Tradd
1-9-22, 8:03pm
Rob, I’m sorry your tenant is so sick, but he did it to himself. He is selfish (and so is his wife) as they didn’t give a damn about their kids. He essentially committed suicide if he doesn’t make it.

I’m sorry for his kids and the friends/family left behind if he dies. No sympathy for him at all. He brought this on himself.

gimmethesimplelife
1-9-22, 8:30pm
I (kind of) agree with you,Tradd. He could have gotten the shots easily and did not do so. I agree to an extent that personal responsibility is involved here. But I don't see it as suicide - to me, that's taking it a bit far.

He leaves behind three minor children and a girlfriend and an ex-wife and a large extended family. Who I feel for the most here is three kids soon to be without a father. A tragedy that could have easily been prevented. And now I'm also worried regarding the division of assets - there's a fully paid for late model Chevy Silverado, some very chunky and expensive looking 14KT chains, and numerous tools in decent condition. I just hope things don't get nasty.....Rob

gimmethesimplelife
1-9-22, 8:33pm
Adding to my previous post - I have no legal claim on anything and for this I'm grateful. I just don't want to deal with greed from his extended family. Rob

iris lilies
1-9-22, 9:34pm
We strongly believe in Ivermectin in this house!!!!

For Heartworm control that is.haha.

Teacher Terry
1-9-22, 10:21pm
No doubt he made a bad choice but he doesn’t deserve to die. I am so sorry Rob. What a sad situation.

rosarugosa
1-10-22, 6:31am
I would live to see debates, like we had between Gore and Perot on NAFTA. When you shut down debate on covid and censor alternative opinions you don't make them go away, you just drive them underground and create suspicion of the censors.


I think this is a good point. It just adds fuel to the whole "what the lamestream media doesn't want you to know" narrative.

I'm sorry for your tenant and his family, Rob. Even if he brought it upon himself, we all make poor choices at times, but we are usually fortunate enough to survive them.

gimmethesimplelife
1-12-22, 4:08pm
Update - good and bad news. My tenant passed at 8:30.AM yesterday. But my Cousin has tested negative twice and is returning to Phoenix and the house Saturday.

Don't die like my tenant folks.....please for all that is just and good - get your shots. Rob

catherine
1-12-22, 5:14pm
Update - good and bad news. My tenant passed at 8:30.AM yesterday. But my Cousin has tested negative twice and is returning to Phoenix and the house Saturday.

Don't die like my tenant folks.....please for all that is just and good - get your shots. Rob

Oh, so sorry about your tenant, Rob.

bae
1-12-22, 5:24pm
That sucks, Rob :-(

iris lilies
1-12-22, 7:21pm
Update - good and bad news. My tenant passed at 8:30.AM yesterday. But my Cousin has tested negative twice and is returning to Phoenix and the house Saturday.

Don't die like my tenant folks.....please for all that is just and good - get your shots. Rob

I’m sorry to hear that. How old are his children, the children of the guy who died?

gimmethesimplelife
1-12-22, 11:06pm
I’m sorry to hear that. How old are his children, the children of the guy who died?There's a 4 year old girl now living in Mexico. A son that is a Senior in high
school and another son is a high school Freshman - both of whom live in the far west - meaning in Buckeye; AZ. Rob

happystuff
1-12-22, 11:19pm
I'm so sorry, Rob.

jp1
1-12-22, 11:45pm
I'm sorry to hear this. This pandemic keeps hitting closer and closer to home.

Teacher Terry
1-13-22, 2:09am
So sorry Rob.

frugal-one
1-13-22, 3:31am
So sorry, Rob!

rosarugosa
1-13-22, 6:53am
I'm sorry about your tenant, Rob.

razz
1-13-22, 7:36pm
So sorry these type of situations are happening.