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Lots of people can be thankful to be white because school mask mandates are being lifted throughout the predominantly white suburbs while they remain in place in many majority minority urban districts. The brown and black children including toddlers, at negligible risk for covid, mask up while their political overlords party unmasked at the Super Bowl. A five year old must struggle in speech therapy class wearing a mask. It's beyond bizarre.
Lots of people can be thankful to be white because school mask mandates are being lifted throughout the predominantly white suburbs while they remain in place in many majority minority urban districts. The brown and black children including toddlers, at negligible risk for covid, mask up while their political overlords party unmasked at the Super Bowl. A five year old must struggle in speech therapy class wearing a mask. It's beyond bizarre.
Your OCD is showing.
Even in liberal San Francisco people are tired of the hypocritical elites and recalled three school board members. You can dismiss it as OCD if you want, but just watch the photo of unmasked Stacey Abrams sitting surrounded by masked kids cost her the Georgia governorship. Soccer moms vote.
Stacy Abrams lost in 2018. Covid was not yet a thing.
Stacy Abrams lost in 2018. Covid was not yet a thing.
But Democrats then went on to win two Senate seats in Georgia. The tide was shifting - no more.
The CDC will soon issue new guidance on masks trying to salvage things for the Democrats before the midterms. I wonder what the mask fanatics, either in areas so blue they don't need to worry about any competition, or like my Board of Health who are appointed not elected and so don't care, will cling to then as an excuse for their mandates that defy the will of most of the people.
Chicken lady
2-17-22, 10:36am
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My liberal leaning (compared to the local center, not to the country) school in a red state just took a parent survey about getting rid of masks. Turns out the majority of people don’t care. (28% no response, 30% “don’t care”) the majority of people who did care wanted to keep the masks, and only 8% said “it’s time to make them optional” they’re just really loud.
Edited to add - and actually, from talking to the teenagers, some of the kids who think they should be optional would still choose to wear them and avoid kids who didn’t - they just don’t like rules. So the loud people might be less than 8%.
When the masks mandates go away watch and see what happens. It may surprise you.
Children have been indoctrinated, but this can be reversed. They will see that people take off their masks and don't drop dead.
Chicken lady
2-17-22, 11:17am
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Even in liberal San Francisco people are tired of the hypocritical elites and recalled three school board members. You can dismiss it as OCD if you want, but just watch the photo of unmasked Stacey Abrams sitting surrounded by masked kids cost her the Georgia governorship. Soccer moms vote.
It's OCD when you take a thread about a video that had zero to do with covid, parents, schools or school boards and make it all about your pathetic hatred of masks. I can only assume that you didn't even bother to watch the video before you decided to hijack the thread.
Chicken lady
2-17-22, 12:25pm
Jp1, I apologize. I also did not watch the video and am going to delete my responses. It’s a bad day, and I should put jeppy on ignore. I have resisted doing so because if concern that threads won’t make sense and I will accidentally post on threads where she is active and I am uncomfortable with the idea that she could be responding to me and others would be reading that while I would not be.
but if I can’t behave, I should go home.
No need to apologize CL. Threads go in random directions all the time. Just usually not in such a completely random direction on the first response. As a good friend used to shout whenever someone made a complete nonsequitor in conversation ‘INCOMING!’
catherine
2-17-22, 12:47pm
Getting back to the OP, that is a terrible video, if completely accurate. Actually, I think it took place about 20 miles from my NJ town judging by the name of the mall.
Truly, "never judge a man until you've walked a mile in their moccasins." We can never know what it's like to be viewed with suspicion every day just based on skin color, never mind having to grow up under the shadow of overt violence and inequality that has gone on for millennia. if any ordinary white person had had to bear the legacy of hatred and suppression that blacks have faced in this country we might also get a little loud in reminding people that white lives matter.
Ultralight
2-17-22, 2:17pm
Your OCD is showing.
Zing! Good one.
Ultralight
2-17-22, 2:21pm
Regarding masks, I find it amusing when some plebe sees a rich/political liberal elite without a mask and thinks: "See, they ain't wearing masks! I shouldn't have to either! Damn, hypocrites."
Now, why do I find that amusing? Because when I see a rich/political elite without a mask, I think: "That person is taking frivilous risks with their health and the health of those they love. That is a bad choice. They ought to do better."
I don't think: "This is a great reason for me to take off my mask and get exposed to a horrible disease just to spite some elitist who does not even know I exist." LOL
ApatheticNoMore
2-17-22, 2:26pm
Even in liberal San Francisco people are tired of the hypocritical elites and recalled three school board members.
gah that had nothing to do with anything you are discussing. I am neither against or in favor really, silly stuff was done and stupid stuff was said, at the same time there is a lot of upper middle class privilege hoarding going on as the driving factor. But masks, derp no.
And yes I watched the video very quickly which also of course had nothing to do with OCD obsessions.
Ultralight
2-17-22, 2:27pm
Any follow ups on the video?
Zing! Good one.
I guess you're not ignoring me anymore. Life is so boring without me, to quote Eminem.
Regarding masks, I find it amusing when some plebe sees a rich/political liberal elite without a mask and thinks: "See, they ain't wearing masks! I shouldn't have to either! Damn, hypocrites."
Now, why do I find that amusing? Because when I see a rich/political elite without a mask, I think: "That person is taking frivilous risks with their health and the health of those they love. That is a bad choice. They ought to do better."
I don't think: "This is a great reason for me to take off my mask and get exposed to a horrible disease just to spite some elitist who does not even know I exist." LOL
The difference between us is that I believe vaccines work and you either don't or you aren't vaccinated. As a vaccinated person I have a much greater chance of dying in a car accident than from covid.
Ultralight
2-17-22, 3:18pm
When you watch the video it kinda looks like a skit, like its fake, but its not. It is real. The cops really went straight after the black kid who was the victim. And even onlookers taking video note that this is racially motivated policing. We need major reforms in the police forces of this nation.
I wonder when those two cops will do their rounds on FOX news and maybe get some awards from right-wing politicians.
iris lilies
2-17-22, 3:22pm
Regarding masks, I find it amusing when some plebe sees a rich/political liberal elite without a mask and thinks: "See, they ain't wearing masks! I shouldn't have to either! Damn, hypocrites."
Now, why do I find that amusing? Because when I see a rich/political elite without a mask, I think: "That person is taking frivilous risks with their health and the health of those they love. That is a bad choice. They ought to do better."
…." LOL
well LOL to you too, because why wouldn’t I as a mask wearing person not resent the liberal politicians and elites in evidence st Sunday’s Superbowl who are putting EVERYONE at risk. Why are they so Special again?
When YOU wear a mask, it protects me not thee.
Or so we were drilled for months ad nauseum which is why when the elite twits do not signal their virtue/show they don’t “care” about it, it makes me more than a little irritated. You think they are going to die of Covid and mYbe so, but we were told endlessly that they take others down, too.
I am looking at YOU Ellen De Generous and your crowd of Hollywood morons. Amd the more I think about it, the more appropriate it seems that the Rams have centered themselves in L.A.
Ultralight
2-17-22, 3:29pm
well LOL to you too, because why wouldn’t I as a mask wearing person not resent the liberal politicians and elites in evidence st Sunday’s Superbowl who are putting EVERYONE at risk. Why are they so Special again?
When YOU wear a mask, it protects me not thee.
Or so we were drilled for months ad nauseum which is why when the elite twits do not signal their virtue/show they don’t “care” about it, it makes me more than a little irritated. You think they are going to die of Covid and mYbe so, but we were told endlessly that they take others down, too.
I am looking at YOU Ellen De Generous and your crowd of Hollywood morons. Amd the more I think about it, the more appropriate it seems that the Rams have centered themselves in L.A.
Are you this upset when right wingers go without a mask? Or does it only bother you when it is a liberal elitist? lol
Did you read my comment? I am irked when anyone who should be masked is not masked. It is reckless as heck.
But I would never think: "That thar libtard aint weerin no mask! So I aint gotta werr one neither! C'mon, billy jo jim-bob, lets take off these masks! yee-haw!"
ApatheticNoMore
2-17-22, 3:37pm
I'm more concerned about laws about masking and keeping them frankly.
I suppose it could theoretically increase spread some by allowing people to go without masks at the superbowl (and it was allowed, so it was a political decision not a decision by some hollywood elite, but a policy decision to allow people to go without mask at the superbowl, although supposedly you had to show proof of vaccination). They aren't "being special" if it is policy not to enforce masks. They aren't breaking any rules. One may not like the policy of course.
But in the end it's just one superbowl, it could be a super-spread-bowl, but it's just one event, small compared to mask policy everywhere else. I mean think about it. And if we think about it, isn't most post superbowl spread likely to be due to superbowl parties at people's homes, rather than even those who had live tickets?
As for whether they endanger themselves, look they have access to better and faster healthcare than I EVER will. Come on. I'm supposed to think I'm rich or something? LOL, silliness. I probably wouldn't need it, but I also wouldn't be first in line for Paxlovid either. If I was a celebrity though ...
Ultralight
2-17-22, 3:43pm
I'm more concerned about laws about masking and keeping them frankly.
I suppose it could theoretically increase spread some by allowing people to go without masks at the superbowl (and it was allowed, so it was a political decision not a decision by some hollywood elite, but a policy decision to allow people to go without mask at the superbowl, although supposedly you had to show proof of vaccination).
But in the end it's just one superbowl, it could be a superspreadbowl, but it's just one event, small compared to mask policy everywhere else. I mean think about it.
As for whether they endanger themselves, look they have access to better and faster healthcare than I EVER will. Come on.
Mask mandating is essentially over. This is just the political reality. And the CDC makes the quarentine time for COVID less and less. In March it'll be down to 48 hours with or without symptoms. haha
Road runners like myself have only a few paths forward if we want to remain uninfected.
1. We have to wear N95 type masks whenever around other people.
2. We have to ride out the next couple months as the rest of the population turns.
3. We have to continue to get boosted when necessary and advisable.
ApatheticNoMore
2-17-22, 3:55pm
Mask mandates may be mostly over but there still are mask mandates. But yea even I don't know why I'd waste time being angry with a celebrity over the superbowl when they followed the rules that were set. If I wanted to direct my anger anywhere over that: city of l.a., l.a. county board of supervisors, l.a. public health, that's what would have been involved in superbowl policy making.
I really think covid is going to just keep circulating, people will get covid and have some temporary immunity and then probably be able to get it all over again (if R was below one I suppose it might die out but then there is the whole world passing covid around).
Mask mandating is essentially over. This is just the political reality. And the CDC makes the quarentine time for COVID less and less. In March it'll be down to 48 hours with or without symptoms. haha
Road runners like myself have only a few paths forward if we want to remain uninfected.
1. We have to wear N95 type masks whenever around other people.
2. We have to ride out the next couple months as the rest of the population turns.
3. We have to continue to get boosted when necessary and advisable.
Where are you getting the “next couple months” from? That seems like a fairly short period to maintain your purity before the danger abates.
Ultralight
2-17-22, 4:29pm
Where are you getting the “next couple months” from? That seems like a fairly short period to maintain your purity before the danger abates.
I live my life two months at time now. This is the road runner lifestyle.
ApatheticNoMore
2-17-22, 4:40pm
BTW is mall security even cops. I couldn't tell. I mean there are a lot of private security guards right.
Ultralight
2-17-22, 4:57pm
BTW is mall security even cops. I couldn't tell. I mean there are a lot of private security guards right.
The officers in the video were cops. I read up on it. The police department they work for is investigating.
But... "We have investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing" is a likely outcome.
It could also be that one police officer simply reacted differently than another. Lots of variables go into every reaction and its always easy to assume whatever bias of the day satisfies our outrage.
I would be curious to know what information the officers had from their point of view. The video only shows one angle.
Probably doesn't matter, as the media and the elected officials in the area have already tried the case it seems.
Given the rapidity with which the situation escalated to fisticuffs I would doubt that the officers had much, if any, more information than what we are seeing in the video.
Given the rapidity with which the situation escalated to fisticuffs I would doubt that the officers had much, if any, more information than what we are seeing in the video.
They might have mistaken who was the aggressor, from the wrong angle, or if they blinked at the wrong moment.
And for all we know, they had other information - for instance, there's a location I end up responding to quite often where there is an ongoing domestic violence/substance abuse problem, and the deputies basically restrain and search one member of the household whenever we respond. They seem to be relying on preexisting information at times as to who "the potential violent person" is.
Given the rapidity with which the situation escalated to fisticuffs I would doubt that the officers had much, if any, more information than what we are seeing in the video.
I would suspect from the video that there was probably a longer verbal altercation than the video shows. If so, I think it likely that someone alerted the police to the altercation well before the events we saw. That would also explain just how quickly they arrived on scene.
I'm always suspicious of narratives advanced based upon snippets of video and incomplete information. They're usually wrong.
I’m also suspicious of narratives that always doubt the Occam’s razor analysis of the given knowledge. But sure, maybe the cops somehow magically knew younger, smaller guy that was losing the fight was the instigator.
I’m also suspicious of narratives that always doubt the Occam’s razor analysis of the given knowledge.I think that video lacked enough information for any type of analysis. It seems more of a 'people see what they want to see' situation to me. You saw reasons to be thankful to be a white person because every interaction you see is based on racism. I saw not enough context to posit an informed opinion. Meh...
Don't the police usually separate combatants and try to determine what happened before singling one out? This response will be investigated--fairly, one hopes.
Ultralight
2-17-22, 9:13pm
Don't the police usually separate combatants and try to determine what happened before singling one out? This response will be investigated--fairly, one hopes.
Of course not, when two people are fighting cops are trained to go after one of them, throw the person to the ground, put their knee on his neck, cuff him, then arrest him while the other person in the fight sits idly by watching like its his birthright to do so.
The cops didn't even bother with the white guy. Who knows, maybe the white guy was carrying a gun? Usually a good idea to search both people fighting for weapons. But cops probably aren't trained to do that. lol
So go ahead with more aplogetics. haha
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