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iris lilies
3-27-22, 11:52pm
It’s all over the news this evening: Will Smith marched up to Chris Rock on live television and smacked him over a joke Chris Rock made about Will Smith’s wife’s hair.
What a shit show. Those Hollywood people need to be put out to pasture.
And here I was just thinking about renting Smith’s film King Richard. Now I think NAH I won’t bother to give the idiot any money.
google it, it is epic. It wasn't a “bit” it was real. Chris handled himself well.
iris lilies
3-28-22, 12:20am
But Will Smith “wants to be a vessel of love” or so he says to everyone as he accepts his Oscar and apologizes for his poor behavior towards Chris Rock 17 minutes earlier.
I don’t know, jury what do you think? Can we accept Will Smith is all about peace and love? The bullshit meter is in the red zone I’m afraid.
here’s what I think: Smith’s publicists are going to have a late night of it, sending out their pre-written releases that they wrote when anticipating his win, but now coming up with the medical excuse as to why Smith lost his temper to such a degree that he physically struck another human.
Disclaimer here: I don’t watch the Oscars, they are too stupid. But the clips were all over Reddit tonight.
He definitely doesn't hit like an action-hero.
He definitely doesn't hit like an action-hero.
All the people who lambaste Halloween costumes over cultural appropriation are now into gender appropriation, so why can't he hit "like a girl"?
I have to say that Rock's comment was pretty low. I don't think even Don Rickles would have gone that far, but he was pretty crass, too.
iris lilies
3-28-22, 9:00am
I have to say that Rock's comment was pretty low. I don't think even Don Rickles would have gone that far, but he was pretty crass, too.
Yeah, I think so too, a little.
OK, I didn't see the Oscars yet (recorded them, though), so I read up about the incident and also about Jada Pinkett Smith's alopecia and I can only say that I hope Chris Rock didn't know that she shaves her head because of it. That would be REALLY low. Chris Rock's response, while not very gentlemanly, was probably because he's been with his wife throughout her emotional pain. I agree with others that if Chris Rock knew the whole situation, that would be a very low blow--one that even Ricky Gervais probably wouldn't deliver.
ToomuchStuff
3-28-22, 9:54am
It’s all over the news this evening: Will Smith marched up to Chris Rock on live television and smacked him over a joke Chris Rock made about Will Smith’s wife’s hair.
What a shit show. Those Hollywood people need to be put out to pasture.
And here I was just thinking about renting Smith’s film King Richard. Now I think NAH I won’t bother to give the idiot any money.
google it, it is epic. It wasn't a “bit” it was real. Chris handled himself well.
Wouldn't full ghetto, for us to be standing around watching it?
Rock's was an ill-considered "joke," but Smith has permanently outed himself as someone who reacts to minor provocations with violence. And the crap about defending his wife out of "love" was offensive and condescending. As some pundit pointed out, Jada Pinkett-Smith is a grown-ass woman who can defend herself if she feels the need.
iris lilies
3-28-22, 10:15am
Oh you people, still haven’t learned who’s fault it is. It is Donald Trump we can blame for this. It’s all Trump’s fault. Just ask CNN talking head Asha
Rangappa who tweeted:
“ So did like anyone walk out after that happened??? Or are we getting an independent psychological case study on how Trump got normalized?”
Personally, I am blaming the Hollywood lefties who just want their self aggrandizing Snoozefest to be rid of the label #OscarsSoWhite
Getting into the spirit of Hollywood gossip, I wonder if either will apologize or if they will become enemies for the rest of days. As long as Smith's slap was physically harmless I do not think it was totally inappropriate. A close relative had a noticeable physical defect she was self conscious of and if a person were to make fun of it in a large significant public setting I could picture a similar reaction. It was not funny. Speaking of Trump, it did remind me of when he was mocking disabled people.
iris lilies
3-28-22, 10:37am
Getting into the spirit of Hollywood gossip, I wonder if either will apologize or if they will become enemies for the rest of days. As long as Smith's slap was physically harmless I do not think it was totally inappropriate. A close relative had a noticeable physical defect she was self conscious of and if a person were to make fun of it in a large significant public setting I could picture a similar reaction. It was not funny. Speaking of Trump, it did remind me of when he was mocking disabled people.
i think Trump had plausible deniability in that incident bespoken round the world, but I wouldn’t expect you to.
And now for a joke:
The LAPD came by the Oscars to check out Chris Rock’s face for evidence. Guess what they found? Fresh prints.
catherine
3-28-22, 11:07am
i think Trump had plausible deniability in that incident bespoken round the world, but I wouldn’t expect you to.
And now for a joke:
The LAPD came by the Oscars to check out Chris Rock’s face for evidence. Guess what they found? Fresh prints.
haha!!!
i think Trump had plausible deniability in that incident bespoken round the world, but I wouldn’t expect you to.
Indeed. What you call plausible deniability I call revisionist history.
Speaking of Trump,
Almost got through a thread without Trump coming up.
All the people who lambaste Halloween costumes over cultural appropriation are now into gender appropriation, so why can't he hit "like a girl"?
What a misogynist thing of you to say! Shame!
If you want to see what a girl hits like, I’d be happy to set you up with some time in the ring for your education and spiritual development…
Almost got through a thread without Trump coming up.
IL started it. At least masks haven’t come up yet.
iris lilies
3-28-22, 1:10pm
Almost got through a thread without Trump coming up.
Mea culpa!
I just couldn’t help myself, it was so ridiculous of CNN.
And they will wonder WHY he wins if the idiot wins again, the idiot they propel into the limelight with every utterance.
Mea culpa!
I just couldn’t help myself, it was so ridiculous of CNN.
And they will wonder WHY he wins if the idiot wins again, the idiot they propel into the limelight with every utterance.
Almost amounts to an in-kind campaign contribution.
What a misogynist thing of you to say! Shame!
If you want to see what a girl hits like, I’d be happy to set you up with some time in the ring for your education and spiritual development…
You are so right, you font of all wisdom. Women don't hit any differently than men. They should face off against each other in boxing matches. Or at least trans women should be allowed in the women's competitions.
You are so right, you font of all wisdom. ...
So, clearly, yet another sphere of knowledge about which you know very little, but are happy to issue foolish opinions on, and then attempt muddle up things with your typical sophistry and classic errors in reasoning and argument. Got it.
So, clearly, yet another sphere of knowledge about which you know very little, but are happy to issue foolish opinions on, and then attempt muddle up things with your typical sophistry and classic errors in reasoning and argument. Got it.
I'm so stupid. If only I could be as smart as you - and a hero too. Is there anything you are not an expert at? Any famous person whose name you have not dropped? Any place you have not jetsetted to but it's okay despite your lectures to others on covid because you are so special and you fly in private planes unlike the common riffraff?
(I bet your ex-wife could tell us a few things.)
(I bet your ex-wife could tell us a few things.)
Gosh aren't you precious....
Simplemind
3-28-22, 4:07pm
We will never know what kind of a relationship the three of them have. All have worked on movies together. I took the joke as being about GI Jane 2. I did not in any way take it to be about alopecia. Rock made a documentary about black hair a few years back. He has two daughters and understands how much self-esteem is tied up in having good hair. I sincerely doubt he was mocking her struggle with alopecia. Her choice to shave her head and look beautiful with it. Just as beautiful as Demi Moore with a shaved head in GI Jane.
Will laughed until he caught a look on Jada. Will lost his head and outted who he really is. He assaulted somebody at a globally televised formal event and then went on to shout from the audience and drop F-bombs. They wouldn't allow Kanye to attend to sing a song due to his behavior towards Kim Kardashian but they allowed Will to continue to sit in his seat? He was seen being "comforted" by Tyler Perry and Denzel Washington. Then in his acceptance speech he tries to smooth it over saying art imitates life and he is in essence like Richard and is protecting his family. WT.........??
Nothing I've seen has gone after Rock for making the insensitive, possibly damaging, and not funny comment.
Nothing I've seen has gone after Rock for making the insensitive, possibly damaging, and not funny comment.
But they are lining up to provide aid and comfort to poor poor Will...
"I sincerely doubt he was mocking her struggle with alopecia. Her choice to shave her head and look beautiful with it. Just as beautiful as Demi Moore with a shaved head in GI Jane."
Not a few women with alopecia deal with it by shaving their heads and proving bald can be beautiful. I'm not sure why anyone would get defensive about it. Shaving one's head is a choice, after all.
Because I'm fascinated by wigs, I know of a woman with alopecia who shaved her head and opened a successful wig business, making sweet lemonade out of lemons. No need to declare oneself a victim.
I have no way of knowing, but I keep wondering what Jada (or any other woman) thought or feels about "her man" coming to her rescue. Ugh.
There are no doubt exceptions. I can't buy into the theory that someone with a visible trait normally considered a defect would take being made fun of in a high prefile public event broadcast to everywhere as good fun. I guess we can't really know what's inside her head and how she deals with things.
I have no way of knowing, but I keep wondering what Jada (or any other woman) thought or feels about "her man" coming to her rescue. Ugh.
Right? It's so patriarchal.
She has agency. Quite a lot of it. She's not someone's property.
iris lilies
3-28-22, 6:36pm
Right? It's so patriarchal.
She has agency. Quite a lot of it. She's not someone's property.
I remember years ago having a conversation with a friend about how she would expect her significant other to step forward to defend her verbally in whatever situation we were talking about. That whole concept gave me the skeeves. DH and I are two separate people with separate thoughts and opinions. Actually DH is just as likely to throw me under the bus in any social setting as not, ha ha! But I can take it.
Saying something like "I agree with IrisLily on this one; I think she's right" and getting all puffed up and swinging on someone are two different things. I would appreciate a verbal backup if it were appropriate.
I see Smith has apologized.
"Jokes at my expense are a part of the job, but a joke about Jada's medical condition was too much for me to bear and I reacted emotionally." It will be interesting to see if Rock apologizes for being an insensitive idiot.
I guess we are collectively stuck in a patriarchal culture for a while more and I expect some version of toxic masculinity to take a partial rap for defending Smith's partner, even if it was an inappropriate emotional reaction.
I don't think it's patriarchal nor a sign of toxic masculinity to be protective of your loved ones. Smith took it a little too far but I can understand someone reacting on their spouses behalf. Of course, as a public figure he should have just smiled and flipped Rock off and be done with it.
Some people are saying the whole thing was staged.
iris lilies
3-29-22, 10:06am
Some people are saying the whole thing was staged.sure, but it was not staged.
And just because Chris Rock and Will and Jada smith will be seen out and about dining together in the next few weeks does not mean it was staged.
I doubt that Chris Rock holds a grudge for this act, and he probably thinks it’s kind of funny, certainly a ratings boost for Oscars and Oscar buzz.
David Letterman had a quick segment on someone’s talk show that iterated how he, David Letterman, managed to run an Oscars show with no face slaps and what was wrong with Chris Rock? Ha ha. Conan OBrian quipped that he just wanted to borrow someone’s late night talk show for a bit to comment on this Oscars fiasco. I want to hear what Joe Rogan has to say about it.
The more I think about this, the more annoyed I get.
So Jada-Pinkett Smith bravely chooses to embrace her (non-painful, non-life threatening) medical condition by shaving her head and appearing au naturel at the Oscars, and her husband blows her cover by "avenging" an ill-considered joke comparing her to another attractive woman with a shaved head (the horrors!). Because apparently no one is allowed to mention that she's shaved her head. There's nothing shameful about hair loss--millions are dealing with it, after all. And Will Smith is a jerk, at best.
This incident, which I didn't see but can't avoid hearing about, reminded me of a woman I used to see at work. She was tall, statuesque, black, and quite good looking. But it was clear that she always wore wigs (either that or she changed her hairstyle every day). I nicknamed her Josephine Baker, because one of her hairstyles made me think of that actress (and French war hero). I'm wondering now if alopecia was the cause.
As for the Oscars, just ignore them. I've been doing it for years. ;)
iris lilies
3-29-22, 10:46am
Our dogs get alopacea. This is a random fact completely unrelated to any of this! I picked up two at a county animal shelter a few weeks ago that had it on their side. It’s not serious but of course it is hair loss.
catherine
3-29-22, 11:00am
The more I think about this, the more annoyed I get.
So Jada-Pinkett Smith bravely chooses to embrace her (non-painful, non-life threatening) medical condition by shaving her head and appearing au naturel at the Oscars, and her husband blows her cover by "avenging" an ill-considered joke comparing her to another attractive woman with a shaved head (the horrors!). Because apparently no one is allowed to mention that she's shaved her head. There's nothing shameful about hair loss--millions are dealing with it, after all. And Will Smith is a jerk, at best.
I agree with most of what you say--Will Smith overreacted for sure. I do have to say that alopecia may not be life-threatening but it's devastating for many. Hair is so symbolic of youth, strength, vitality, and losing it is often one of the most traumatic events of a person's life, whether it is due to chemotherapy, or just bad luck. Getting older and losing hair is expected and therefore more tolerable, but having this type of disease, which is disfiguring, can really be distressing (hmmm.. I'd love to see the etymology of that word). The fact that she couldn't find humor in the joke, as evidenced by the eye-roll, hints at that fact that losing her hair and having to resort to shaving her head, was not a matter she took lightly.
I agree with most of what you say--Will Smith overreacted for sure. I do have to say that alopecia may not be life-threatening but it's devastating for many. Hair is so symbolic of youth, strength, vitality, and losing it is often one of the most traumatic events of a person's life, whether it is due to chemotherapy, or just bad luck. Getting older and losing hair is expected and therefore more tolerable, but having this type of disease, which is disfiguring, can really be distressing (hmmm.. I'd love to see the etymology of that word). The fact that she couldn't find humor in the joke, as evidenced by the eye-roll, hints at that fact that losing her hair and having to resort to shaving her head, was not a matter she took lightly.
The joke wasn't particularly funny, and an eye-roll would be sufficient response.
catherine
3-29-22, 11:05am
The joke wasn't particularly funny, and an eye-roll would be sufficient response.
That is true.
Chris Rock is coming to Boston soon and tickets to his show have skyrocketed in price. They are being scalped for $400 to $1000 apiece. If it were staged that could be a motive.
happystuff
3-29-22, 12:05pm
I saw it live and initially thought it was fake, as the slap did not look like it connected. The control booth was quick to cut the sound when Smith returned to his seat and made his statement - twice. It was interesting seeing Jada sitting in the background of the shot on Will - very stone-faced/no emotion (in my opinion at first glance).
rosarugosa
3-29-22, 12:58pm
The more I think about this - - just kidding. I don't think about it.
iris lilies
3-29-22, 1:25pm
The more I think about this - - just kidding. I don't think about it.
That is because you are wasting your time thinking about unimportant things like hellebores! :)
Pfizer sponsored the Oscars and is developing a drug for alopecia. Hmmm.
Well, on the positive side, did you see how kindly Lady Gaga treated Liza Minelli? Class Act.
happystuff
3-29-22, 1:54pm
Well, on the positive side, did you see how kindly Lady Gaga treated Liza Minelli? Class Act.
Absolutely!
iris lilies
3-29-22, 2:11pm
Absolutely! Why would Lady Gaga treat Lisa Minnelli in anyway other than with kindness?
happystuff
3-29-22, 2:14pm
Why would Lady Gaga treat Lisa Minnelli in anyway other than with kindness?
It was not a question of whether she would or wouldn't, it was an observation that she DID!
I wonder whose idea it was to feature Liza Minelli, considering her obviously fragile condition.
I also wonder why I'm devoting time to events I didn't even watch. :D
I wonder whose idea it was to feature Liza Minelli, considering her obviously fragile condition.
I also wonder why I'm devoting time to events I didn't even watch. :D
Yeah, I think that was a bad decision--she certainly doesn't command the stage the way she used to. I read that Lady Gaga wanted her to announce Best Picture in homage to the 50th Anniversary of Cabaret.
I have to admit, now that I've seen the recording and fast-forwarded through at least half of it that was not interesting at all, it is definitely a self-aggrandizing event. I won't be surprised if it fizzles out over the next few years.
"Oscars go full ghetto"
And now, I have some questions about the appropriateness of the use of the word "ghetto" in the thread title, especially in the context of the participants and their issues...
iris lilies
3-29-22, 4:19pm
"Oscars go full ghetto"
And now, I have some questions about the appropriateness of the use of the word "ghetto" in the thread title, especially in the context of the participants and their issues...
Of course you do. I’m actually surprised it took us 6 pages before you raised it. If UL was here he would have hopped to it in 1.
Of course you do. I’m actually surprised it took us 6 pages before you raised it.
They make us go to all these classes at work on the matter. My understanding is that every year, a certain set of words become "problematic", and somehow we are all supposed to be up on the situation.
iris lilies
3-29-22, 4:24pm
I wonder whose idea it was to feature Liza Minelli, considering her obviously fragile condition.
I also wonder why I'm devoting time to events I didn't even watch. :D
Oh me too, so I didn’t even know Liza Minnelli was in fragile condition. I know nothing about that.
iris lilies
3-29-22, 4:29pm
They make us go to all these classes at work on the matter. My understanding is that every year, a certain set of words become "problematic", and somehow we are all supposed to be up on the situation.
Here’s the wonderful thing about being FIRED: All that bullshit is behind me. Please understand that back in the day I took it seriously and was sincere in work and social life to avoid the dreaded “R” label.
Now, I simply don’t care about who is racist and who isn’t because frankly, we’re taught everyone (well, all from the dominant culture) is racist. So be it. Although I will say it’s interesting that the current theory that boils down in a very simple way to “we are all born racist” is in direct conflict with the race education I received 30 years ago which is pretty much the opposite, boiled down to “no one is born racist. “
Whatever, kids. Have fun figuring it out.
iris lilies
3-29-22, 4:37pm
…As long as Smith's slap was physically harmless I do not think it was totally inappropriate.
Dude. It was totally inappropriate. Will Smith PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED Another person. It doesn’t matter who he assaulted or the circumstances or how widely it was televised or the formality of the occasion.
none of that latter stuff matters. He carried out an act of physical violence.
That’s how wife and child beaters justify themselves. This is how Dog beaters justify their actions. “ Well it didn’t really HURT them did it?” they tell them selves and everyone who will listen. That is bullshit.
I thought Russell Brand had a lot of really interesting things to say about the incident:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_13vkaaQMDM
iris lilies
3-29-22, 8:58pm
I thought Russell Brand had a lot of really interesting things to say about the incident:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_13vkaaQMDM
Man that guy can talk! I enjoyed it, Especially all the adjectives used about the Oscar award show. I’m just not sure that this will smith incident signals the end of this alternate reality of Hollywood.
personally, I like this guys comment to
russell Brand, he says it much better than I could:
from Peter k.
“Turning this into "the construct is failing" without calling out a clear abuse of power is tedious. We know the awards are mostly rubbish (though some people actually worked really hard for their award). We know life is mostly a meaningless projection. But what Will did is repugnant. Why don't you look at it from an equality perspective? Could we do what he did within our meaningless workplaces? What Will did is symbolic. It is a sign that someone with power can use disproportional force and get away with it. Speak to that.”
ApatheticNoMore
3-30-22, 2:24am
The thing is people are already losing interest in the Oscars anyway. Don't the ratings go down every year? I think more people heard about this incident scrolling the news or something rather than actually watching the Oscars. So to say it's the Oscars imploding ok. But it was less viewed every year anyway.
So maybe it's an unpleasantness intruding on the Oscars. But on the other hand while perhaps not unpleasant, the Oscars and incredibly boring and sleep inducing, boring dresses which maybe dress designers care about but if creating clothing isn't your profession or hobby is boring, boring celebrity stuff, and of course the boring awards ceremony itself. So unpleasantness versus boring, I don't know. Probably less of a market for boring. Hellobores are not even a plant we have around here but give me hellabores anyday over watchign the Oscars.
And no I don't believe there is a power imbalance. So no I'm not going to look at it from the perspective of power, because that only applies if there were power imbalances and um two black male celebrities, I suppose one could compare their wealth, but honestly at a certain point it seems irrelevant nitpicking.
rosarugosa
3-30-22, 6:09am
Oh me too, so I didn’t even know Liza Minnelli was in fragile condition. I know nothing about that.
I thought she was dead, so I guess she's doing well, comparatively speaking.
Chris Rock is coming to Boston soon and tickets to his show have skyrocketed in price. They are being scalped for $400 to $1000 apiece. If it were staged that could be a motive.
I bet Anthony fauci is in for a cut of that money since there was a disease involved.
I bet Anthony fauci is in for a cut of that money since there was a disease involved.
If he shepherds the alopecia drug through the approval process he can get $150,000.00. Pfizer, sponsor of the Oscar show, is working on one.
That’s how wife and child beaters justify themselves. This is how Dog beaters justify their actions. “ Well it didn’t really HURT them did it?” they tell them selves and everyone who will listen. That is bullshit.
Your right. In a court of law Will was probably guilty of some version of assault and physical violence is not acceptable. I guess spanking children is out these days as well and giving a pet a slap on the rump for misbehaving too, as they are all gateway behaviors for harder violence. Unfortunately the concept that words have power and can also hurt people with disabilities is culturally more acceptable, even for presidents.
I wonder how many Hollywood movie and TV fist fights have started with the villain making derogatory comments about the hero's wife or girlfriend.
The idea that Chris Rock's innocuous comment was trauma-inducing is ridiculous on its face. She's been all over media showing off her tiny strip of hair loss lately. Oh, the drama.
iris lilies
3-30-22, 11:02am
The idea that Chris Rock's innocuous comment was trauma-inducing is ridiculous on its face. She's been all over media showing off her tiny strip of hair loss lately. Oh, the drama.
Look, I have no doubt that it was hurtful. Here is Jada Smith, sitting all dressed up in a glam and glitter event no spotlight on her, and this thing is unexpectedly said about her that is not kind. And the spotlight is immediately on her.
It would be unpleasantly surprising.
This is Monday morning quarterbacking but I was thinking how effective it would’ve been if Will and Jada smith picked up their wraps and bag and left the theater. Slowly and with dignity walked out. That would’ve been effective. The camera could’ve shown Will Smith’s empty seat when his category was announced, and then when he won – – Cowabunga! I’m sure Will Smith is rethinking this, regretting what he did, coming up with other scenarios he could’ve should’ve done.
The idea that Chris Rock's innocuous comment was trauma-inducing is ridiculous on its face. She's been all over media showing off her tiny strip of hair loss lately. Oh, the drama.
I tend to think of it as a gateway for other people to make fun of disabilities and saying it's ok.
"Pinkett Smith has been vocal about her struggles with alopecia and appeared immediately uncomfortable at the barb....
"Both Jackson and West — the Cincinnati hair braider — said their clients with alopecia have gone so far as to hide the extent of their hair loss even from their closest friends and family."
"I have clients who don't even allow their own husbands to see their hair in that state," said Jackson. "Their privacy is very important to them, and they take even more pride in their appearance. Seeing her face after the joke was made was definitely heartbreaking because you can tell it affected her deeply, which in turn prompted Will's reaction."
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/29/1089364082/chris-rock-will-smith-and-the-long-history-of-black-hair-in-america
catherine
3-30-22, 11:41am
I tend to think of it as a gateway for other people to make fun of disabilities and saying it's ok.
"Pinkett Smith has been vocal about her struggles with alopecia and appeared immediately uncomfortable at the barb....
"Both Jackson and West — the Cincinnati hair braider — said their clients with alopecia have gone so far as to hide the extent of their hair loss even from their closest friends and family."
"I have clients who don't even allow their own husbands to see their hair in that state," said Jackson. "Their privacy is very important to them, and they take even more pride in their appearance. Seeing her face after the joke was made was definitely heartbreaking because you can tell it affected her deeply, which in turn prompted Will's reaction."
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/29/1089364082/chris-rock-will-smith-and-the-long-history-of-black-hair-in-america
It's not just Black hair. I'm sure the real healthcare professionals on this forum can attest to what I've experienced as just a healthcare moderator. Having interviewed hundreds of patients and caregivers and doctors about what people who are about to undergo chemotherapy ask about, I hear consistently that the #1 thing is, "will I lose my hair." When my mother had a brain aneurysm in 1978 (she was 50), she was so freaked out--not by the brain surgery--by the idea of having her hair gone (which was a beautiful natural platinum) she cut it off herself before the nurses came with the shears.
While Pinkett-Smith was open about her struggles, I'm sure she didn't like being reminded.
I was on the phone with my birthing person yesterday, who is a member of the dwindling audience for the Oscars. She told me Will Smith laughed at first, but it looked to her like he saw a chance for some “notoriousness” and decided to grab it. She said the whole thing made her miss Henry Fonda and John Wayne.
She also said it made her nostalgic for Don Rickles: “Now there was a man who knew how to insult people”.
I guess John Wayne had to be physically restrained by several security people from rushing the stage and being physically violent during the Sasheen Littlefeather acceptance for Marlon Brandon, when Alcatraz was being occupied.
I was on the phone with my birthing person yesterday, who is a member of the dwindling audience for the Oscars. She told me Will laughed at first, but it looked to her like he saw a chance for some “notoriousness” and decided to grab it. She said the whole thing made her miss Henry Fonda and John Wayne.
Or the toxic masculinity of Clint Eastwood. (Sometime an apology is all that is needed to smooth things over). That's Hollywood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkr0bwV5YWE
ApatheticNoMore
3-30-22, 12:50pm
These motives are no motives at all. It will help Will Smith's career? Maybe it is just as likely it hurts it. Anyway not like he needs the money that much anyway.
The joke was very mild, but god forbid I was ever at an Oscar ceremony (what did I do wrong in life? *pinches self* Whew it was all just a horrible dream), I wouldn't like it being open season for jokes at my expense.
Clint Eastwood was allegedly quite abusive to Sondra Locke.
Rogar, I think the apology that needs to come out is Chris Rock apologizing to the woman he humiliated for laughs.
iris lilies
3-30-22, 1:01pm
Clint Eastwood was allegedly quite abusive to Sondra Locke.
Rogar, I think the apology that needs to come out is Chris Rock apologizing to the woman he humiliated for laughs.
I agree that Chris Rock could apologize and it would make him look even better. But probably enough time has elapsed and if he hasn’t issued a public apology, it’s a bit late.
iris lilies
3-30-22, 8:44pm
“One board of governor attending the meeting Wednesday [of the Board of
governors of the Motion Picture academy ] said there was broad support for Smith to be suspended or expelled from the Academy. “I think everyone unanimously feels what he did was out of control,” the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
“People want real consequence. Every member of every branch is reaching out to all their governors,” says the source. “It was an assault — and not only a physical assault, but an assault on the community.”
Also, it has been revealed that Smith was asked to leave the theater but he refused.
hahaha more bullshit from the Hollywood crowd. Like, everyone was so shocked and appalled at Will Smith’s behavior that they stood up and clapped for him, standing ovation, for his win.
These people—ya just can’t make this stuff up.
ToomuchStuff
3-30-22, 8:55pm
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The number of jokes I am seeing at this, as above, or how out of 100 people there, 99 wouldn't have done it, but 1 Will.
Getting more laughs out of the whole fiasco, then giving a....................
invisibleflash
3-30-22, 9:15pm
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These motives are no motives at all. It will help Will Smith's career? Maybe it is just as likely it hurts it. Anyway not like he needs the money that much anyway.
The joke was very mild, but god forbid I was ever at an Oscar ceremony (what did I do wrong in life? *pinches self* Whew it was all just a horrible dream), I wouldn't like it being open season for jokes at my expense.
If you were at the Oscar ceremonies, you would crave almost any kind of attention--that's the whole point.
rosarugosa
3-31-22, 6:25am
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I have no idea the accuracy of it, but this Twitter thread offers an interesting perspective based on the fact (which I didn’t know) that they are/were both Scientologists. (Apparently Will and Jada quit the cult a number of years ago)
https://mobile.twitter.com/themaxburns/status/1508448796979736587?fbclid=IwAR1ZILhueUVWRQETSOJyf aMWuMBkeSLeInw_cRZqKPO5o2L-q-Ow8XwEHoY
It looks like tasteless victim oriented will live on to be repeated another day. As they they would say, Will Smith is an example of why tigers eat their young and when Chris Rock was born he was so ugly the doctor slapped his mother.
iris lilies
3-31-22, 12:56pm
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haha I admit my determined focus on this is absolutely ridiculous.
But now I have to go off and analyze JP’s latest information about the Scientology angle. I take it that you don’t want me to PM you of what I find, Rosa?:~)
rosarugosa
3-31-22, 3:06pm
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haha I admit my determined focus on this is absolutely ridiculous.
But now I have to go off and analyze JP’s latest information about the Scientology angle. I take it that you don’t want me to PM you of what I find, Rosa?:~)
Only if it involves the Grateful Dead or salad spinners!
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