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gimmethesimplelife
10-7-22, 4:04pm
Grant political asylum to Russians fleeing Russia? What do you think?

Rob
bae
10-7-22, 4:13pm
Grant political asylum to Russians fleeing Russia? What do you think?

Rob

Don't we already house enough of them in Congress?
ToomuchStuff
10-7-22, 4:45pm
When do people need to fight for their own country, the way so many other countries have been formed/revolutions?
bae
10-7-22, 5:16pm
When do people need to fight for their own country, the way so many other countries have been formed/revolutions?

I'm not sure there's a requirement to stay-and-fight, especially in situations where that would be suicidal.

I mean, what sort of national character would the USA have displayed if we'd turned away Jewish refugees from Hitler's Germany, requiring them to instead return and fight back?

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/mcs/media/images/74811000/jpg/_74811136_stlouisarrivingantwerpgetty.jpg
Rogar
10-7-22, 5:35pm
It seems like Canada was pretty forgiving for us during the last draft here. Maybe as a lesson?

This seems to be the technical requirement for asylum. It might take a good lawyer or special permission to argue them asylum from fleeing the draft.

"In order to be granted asylum, an individual is required to provide evidence demonstrating either that they have suffered persecution on account of a protected ground in the past, and/or that they have a “well-founded fear” of future persecution in their home country."
ApatheticNoMore
10-8-22, 11:52am
Grant political asylum to Russians fleeing Russia? What do you think?

as long as they agree to open Russian restaurants as part of the condition for asylum. Ok that's not a serious answer, just I'm always up for more good Russian/eastern European food. A serious answer is I'm fine with them being considered for asylum if they apply for it, but I don't see any reason they should jump the queue over any other asylum seekers.
iris lilies
10-8-22, 12:24pm
as long as they agree to open Russian restaurants as part of the condition for asylum. Ok that's not a serious answer, just I'm always up for more good Russian/eastern European food. A serious answer is I'm fine with them being considered for asylum if they apply for it, but I don't see any reason they should jump the queue over any other asylum seekers.
In St. louis we have have Serbian restaurants here because we have the second largest population of Serbs in the world, after, well, Serbia. I realize Serbia is Central Europe not Eastern Europe, but the cuisine is similar across European rural places.

I found Romanian food to be similar to that offered in our local Serbian restaurants. Romania is a hop skip and jump from the Ukraine and Russia.

And much of it looks like my Mother in Law’s cooking, her early dishes, from when she grew up in rural Switzerland.
bae
10-8-22, 12:50pm
I really like Georgian food.

I got this cookbook a few months ago and have been greatly enjoying it:

https://blackwells.co.uk/jacket/l/9781623718428.jpg

And if you are ever in Helsinki, this restaurant is wonderful!

https://www.purpur.fi/uploads/2019/07/68021438-nd8_5795-1680x1122.jpg
JaneV2.0
10-8-22, 12:58pm
The more international foods, cookbooks, and restaurants, the better!
Tradd
10-8-22, 8:06pm
I think it was one of the Baltic countries, maybe, that is refusing entry to any more Russians. Said they can stay their and fight to change their country or something of that sort.
bae
10-8-22, 8:22pm
I think it was one of the Baltic countries, maybe, that is refusing entry to any more Russians. Said they can stay their and fight to change their country or something of that sort.

I think it was Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.
iris lilies
10-8-22, 10:01pm
I think it was Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.
Those are the three countries that were next on my European “to visit “ list.
ToomuchStuff
10-8-22, 10:05pm
I'm not sure there's a requirement to stay-and-fight, especially in situations where that would be suicidal.

I mean, what sort of national character would the USA have displayed if we'd turned away Jewish refugees from Hitler's Germany, requiring them to instead return and fight back?

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/mcs/media/images/74811000/jpg/_74811136_stlouisarrivingantwerpgetty.jpg

It certainly isn't a one size fits all thing and is a personal thing (Ukrainians staying and fighting verses leaving). But it is a serious question that every individual needs to answer.

In your Germany example, we benefited (Einstein, nuclear bomb), from both sides (friends grandfather, brought over with Operation paperclip and the V2 rockets) and the chaos.
JaneV2.0
10-13-22, 7:21pm
This young man joined the Russian army, as so many do, out of crushing poverty and an absence of opportunity--they join for the money Putin promises (and then does his best not to deliver). His mother works as a janitor at a lumber company. He lost his legs when he jumped into a trench mined by Russian troops as they retreated. He avoided politics, and knew very little of what was going on in Ukraine.

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