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flowerseverywhere
10-14-22, 2:04pm
Richard “I am not a crook” Nixon. Bill “”I did not have sex with that Woman” Clinton. “Crooked Hillary” server and Benghazi hearings. Trump impeachment and insurrection hearings. Now republicans vowing if they are elected they will investigate Biden.

Think of all the time and money that is being spent on all of this. And for what? To further divide the country? Because although Nixon resigned a few people involved in watergate did serve time. Bill was impeached without consequence. Hillary was found guilty of nothing criminal. Teflon Don continues to raise money at a blistering pace and it seems highly unlikely he will face much of a penalty for trying to overturn an election. A lot of people in his orbit have served time and many of the insurrectionists have faced loss of jobs, friends, family and money to attorneys.

so where does this end? I would so much rather see taxes pay for updating infrastructure, bipartisan immigration reform and more money to patrol and enforce the border for instance.

we have an inflation crisis, water, wildfire, climate and border crisis, ballooning homeless crisis, and lack of affordable healthcare crisis.

what politicians have credible ideas how to get us out of this mess our politicians are creating?
bae
10-14-22, 2:16pm
How much money are we willing to spend to keep our democracy?

I'm not willing to tolerate our politicians being criminals while we all smile and nod about it.
iris lilies
10-14-22, 2:37pm
How much money are we willing to spend to keep our democracy?

I'm not willing to tolerate our politicians being criminals while we all smile and nod about it.

Too much of it happens anyway, so constant congressional hearings and
dOJ investigations are incredibly annoying to me but probably are a necessary evil. I actually have not thought of them as a necessary evil but yeah.
bae
10-14-22, 2:52pm
Too much of it happens anyway, so constant congressional hearings and
dOJ investigations are incredibly annoying to me but probably are a necessary evil. I actually have not thought of them as a necessary evil but yeah.

Perhaps if the citizenry would vote for different sorts of people...?
iris lilies
10-14-22, 3:04pm
Perhaps if the citizenry would vote for different sorts of people...?

Perhaps if the citizenry would be presented with different sorts of people to vote for…?
bae
10-14-22, 3:17pm
Perhaps if the citizenry would be presented with different sorts of people to vote for…?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcIpJ8cWsAMrIPD.jpg
jp1
10-14-22, 5:21pm
Perhaps if the citizenry would be presented with different sorts of people to vote for…?

Although 60% of the citizenry will have a sedition supporter on their ballot I don’t know that any of the sedition lovers are running unopposed. The citizenry does have different sorts of people to vote for.
Alan
10-14-22, 6:20pm
Although 60% of the citizenry will have a sedition supporter on their ballot I don’t know that any of the sedition lovers are running unopposed.
But the Democratic Party has supported many of them. If they come out on top, you deserve some of the credit.
jp1
10-14-22, 6:29pm
But the Democratic Party is supporting many of them. If they come out on top, you deserve the credit.

The voters lack agency to vote for someone better?
bae
10-14-22, 6:32pm
We're trying to move to ranked-choice-voting here, and it is pretty informative to see how the GOP and the Democrats in the county are resisting the idea, with all sorts of childish arguments.

Of course, RCV would remove some of the power from the Anointed Ones, so there's that.
ToomuchStuff
10-15-22, 10:32pm
We're trying to move to ranked-choice-voting here, and it is pretty informative to see how the GOP and the Democrats in the county are resisting the idea, with all sorts of childish arguments.

Of course, RCV would remove some of the power from the Anointed Ones, so there's that.

Uhm, aren't all the politicians pretty rank?
jp1
10-16-22, 12:01am
Uhm, aren't all the politicians pretty rank?

Not really. Sure, some are. But they aren’t all trying to overthrow the government. They aren’t all as ugly as LDAHL’s hero
flowerseverywhere
10-16-22, 6:43am
Thanks for the responses. I guess it is a necessary evil. And I don’t understand why people vote for the same old same old yet complain we should have term limits.

I guess it is incredible to me because I can’t recall people around me from work, my neighborhood or my personal circle who have been accused of lying, evading child support, plotting to kill someone or overthrow the government, stealing, tax cheating, being subpoenaed or sued. Of course some people get divorced or pregnant outside of marriage or even had an extramarital relationship , but the Trump or Herschel walker type situations are nowhere close to my orbit. Yes some people were tax audited but minor adjustments were all that happened.

either my life has been very dull or power and money totally corrupts some politicians.