View Full Version : Happy 4th of July!
iris lilies
7-4-23, 1:43pm
I am happy to celebrate this, the greatest country in the world.
As I reflect on the experiment that is the United States, I remember how many times in the past year I’ve been astonished at how our first amendment separates us from other countries. What I hear about compelled speech in western nations, arrests for free-speech in the UK, and etc. makes me grateful the First Amendment exists here.
I don’t think the average American understands this fundamental difference between our country and other developed western nations.
And then there are the Supreme Court’s triple header actions last week verifying separation of powers, also a fundamental core of our constitution. Student loans can’t be forgiven by the president because that is a congressional financial responsibility. Affirmative action is in fact discrimination. Compelled Speech by asking a web designer to represent the government’s stance is illegal.
God bless America!
littlebittybobby
7-4-23, 3:27pm
Okay---Tell you kids what---I spent the evening keeping the cats safe-n-sane during fireworks time. Excepot Mommy---she stayed outside in her hiding spot, though I did my best to get here in. But yeah---whichever neighbor it was did their fireworks thing for their offspring from after dark, until about 11 pm. Years ago, you'd have this bang, bang, bang thing for hours, day after day, during fireworks season. But not last night. Anyway---the catts were hyper alert, but they didn't hide---except fer Mommy. Nope. So, I did my patridiodic duty to observe an amerracon turdition, and support our fallen troops. Yup. Thankk Mee.
iris lilies
7-4-23, 3:34pm
My town’s official fireworks display was cancelled due to dry conditions. I am glad they are not taking that risk.
that hasn’t stop the amateurs, though from setting off noisy explosions.
...
.... Compelled Speech by asking a web designer to represent the government’s stance is illegal.
...!
That whole web designer case was bogus, as I understand it--as in the "web designer" probably can't even write code, and one of the plaintiffs 1)is a married straight man, and 2)had no idea he was the principal in a phony legal proceeding. I hope it's thrown out.
That whole web designer case was bogus, as I understand it--
It's not bogus from a compelled speech standpoint. I think it's being promoted as such because someone with the same name say's it wasn't him. If it involved a black web designer and a prospective client wanting a KKK themed website, we'd all just agree that there's no requirement that the designer participate, and I doubt anyone would arbitrarily assume the designer was not competent, although you certainly enjoy the right to say so.
iris lilies
7-4-23, 5:36pm
That whole web designer case was bogus, as I understand it--as in the "web designer" probably can't even write code, and one of the plaintiffs 1)is a married straight man, and 2)had no idea he was the principal in a phony legal proceeding. I hope it's thrown out.
I don’t understand what is going to be thrown out and by who since the Supreme Court ruled on the case I am talking about.
As an aside, You don’t have to “write code” to develop good layouts for a web page. Graphic design is more important in this day and age.
Sometimes I have a problem with the focus on nationalism, ethnocentrism, and/or patriotism vs. the concept that we're all in this together, globally. But I'll drink a cold beer and have a burger of sorts and give a little ancestral thanks for my comfortable life. It seems like a good day to put political difference aside and celebrate the good (or maybe that's just for Christmas).
I heard a radio ad the other day for DOGTV. Apparently something like Netflix, but it features dogs out playing or getting owner attention. The ad says to the effect, bowser will comforting watch TV while your away instead of chewing up the couch. I suppose with the common 50" TV screens it could possibly seem realistic. That seems sort of American.
Lots of rain and hail today so waiting to see if there will be fireworks. Sure beats drought though.
I don’t understand what is going to be thrown out and by who since the Supreme Court ruled on the case I am talking about.
As an aside, You don’t have to “write code” to develop good layouts for a web page. Graphic design is more important in this day and age.
I suppose the details will be revealed, and if the "web designer" actually is one, I'll feel a moment of chagrin.
littlebittybobby
7-4-23, 10:24pm
Okay---Tonight is THE 4th, which everyone knows is chinese fireworks day. Yup. We celebrate the invention of fireworks & noise, by spending money & getting your fellow 'tards out there, and exploding them. How do you like that? The Tards in my hood are blowing up money tonight. I, of course am doing the sensible thing by keeping my petts from being too frightened. But yeah---isn't the 4th stoopid? That said, I did manage to go to the wreckin' yard today, to grab some bits n pieces for my wreckin' yard motor project. Plus, I soaked my disassembled carburetor parts in lacquer thinner, and scrubbed them nice n clean. But yeah---who even needs a gas-guzzling 45-year old motor, anyway? The nice people are all buying Teslas, aren't they? Ha. Hope that helps you kids. Thankk mee.
I am happy to celebrate this, the greatest country in the world.
As I reflect on the experiment that is the United States, I remember how many times in the past year I’ve been astonished at how our first amendment separates us from other countries. What I hear about compelled speech in western nations, arrests for free-speech in the UK, and etc. makes me grateful the First Amendment exists here.
I don’t think the average American understands this fundamental difference between our country and other developed western nations.
And then there are the Supreme Court’s triple header actions last week verifying separation of powers, also a fundamental core of our constitution. Student loans can’t be forgiven by the president because that is a congressional financial responsibility. Affirmative action is in fact discrimination. Compelled Speech by asking a web designer to represent the government’s stance is illegal.
God bless America!
I see also that a federal judge just enjoined federal agencies from coordinating censorship activities with social media platforms. It hasn’t been a great couple of weeks for the exercise of arbitrary power.
It's not bogus from a compelled speech standpoint. I think it's being promoted as such because someone with the same name say's it wasn't him. If it involved a black web designer and a prospective client wanting a KKK themed website, we'd all just agree that there's no requirement that the designer participate, and I doubt anyone would arbitrarily assume the designer was not competent, although you certainly enjoy the right to say so.
Except that the "web designer" hadn't received the fake email from the fake gay guy before she filed suit. The courts traditionally don't make judgements based on hypothetical wrongs, only on actual wrongs.
Graphic design is more important in this day and age.
Have you seen the website that that "web designer" has? The idea that any gay couple would hire her to do their wedding website is laughable. Which is mostly why zero gay couples actually tried to hire her. That and the fact that she didn't actually have a web design business.
verifying separation of powers, also a fundamental core of our constitution.
How is it separation of powers if the court decides that they alone have the ultimate power of deciding what the two other branches of government are allowed to do with no method of correcting their overreach? There are other, better, remedies if the legislative or executive branch overreaches besides the court overreach that occurred last week. In a civilized country those remedies are elections.
Now that we know that the "web designer" perjured herself in court filings I wonder if she will face any ramifications for that? I suppose probably not since the only perjury that seems to matter to republicans is lying about blowjobs.
iris lilies
7-5-23, 11:29pm
Except that the "web designer" hadn't received the fake email from the fake gay guy before she filed suit. The courts traditionally don't make judgements based on hypothetical wrongs, only on actual wrongs.
the AP says…
Legal standing, or the right to bring a lawsuit, generally requires the person bringing the case to show that they have suffered some sort of harm. But pre-enforcement challenges — like the one Smith brought — are allowed in certain cases if the person can show they face a credible threat of prosecution or sanctions unless they conform to the law…”
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-gay-rights-lgbtq-website-9c058addfdd581ce0ead81eb59660130
There was credible threat of prosecution.
As for the documents being faked, if that’s the case that is bad. I do not take kindly to lying to the Supreme Court. But it may not be a lie, it has not been proven. Any misrepresentation of the validity of the document asking for a website would not invalidate the Supreme Court’s decision.
iris lilies
7-5-23, 11:37pm
Have you seen the website that that "web designer" has? The idea that any gay couple would hire her to do their wedding website is laughable. Which is mostly why zero gay couples actually tried to hire her. That and the fact that she didn't actually have a web design business.
It looks ok to me. What don’t you like about it?
It has lots of white space. That seems quite modern to me.
https://303creative.com/about/
I had a very busy 4th of July with three families, 3 grandkids, and 2 dogs who came to witness the fireworks from our lawn. I've been stressed out for days now with all this entertaining.
This is a great day to celebrate independence. My favorite quintessential story about American freedom and bravery comes from David McCullough's book, 1776, when Henry Knox--a bookseller, I believe--gathered a bunch of men to walk--walk-- to Fort Ticonderoga in December, when Lake George was frozen, in order to secure artillery to defend against the British in Boston Harbor. They lost one cannon in Lake George, but stayed on the ice until they retrieved it. As a result of the unbelievable effort in securing ammunition, the British abandoned Boston and never came back.
As a "Daughter of the American Revolution" (not officially but my ancestors all came over on early boats) I applaud the bravery and resilience of the founders of this country, and I also hope that my ancestors never personally had anything to do with the genocide of the Native Americans.We have things to be grateful for and things to regret. I hope that we continue to live up to the Constitution's preamble: To work for the common defense and promote the general welfare.." for all Americans. While I am a proud and grateful American, I also pray that I do not become idolatrous of my national heritage. Nothing good can come of that.
It looks ok to me. What don’t you like about it?
It has lots of white space. Thatcseens quite modern to me.
https://303creative.com/about/
I suppose if you like ten your old style it's fine if boring (and this coming from the gay guy who admittedly doesn't really have much of a sense of taste for design, so if I can see that it's dull it must be really really dull). More important to me though is that she doesn't make any mention of managing the whole wedding "process". Tying in to what I've mentioned in Tradd's thread about going paperless in the work section of this site, I'd want a wedding website vendor to manage invitations/RSVPs, gift registry and whether I've sent a thank you, etc. Her site doesn't mention any of that, so I can only assume she isn't capable of managing those complicated issues. A true wedding website vendor would have APIs that can tie the site in to Macy's/Amazon/whatever online vendor the happy couple is likely to have registered with.
I guess we'll know soon enough if she actually intended to create this business since she's now won her suit. Surely her business will now take off and she'll be able to share with the world her success at growing it. If two or three years from now she has still not made a single web site we'll know that she was just a faker in pursuit of justifying fake jesus hate against people she doesn't like.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.