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gimmethesimplelife
8-24-23, 9:18pm
OMG. What a morally reprehensible and physically repulsive man. Just ick, ick, ick. If DJT absolutely had to be the
first US President distracting the US with an arrest and a mug shot -
Could he not have looked quite so angry/evil for the photo? Google it and see if you can keep the contents of your stomach down.
A photo speaks 1,000 words. Rob
iris lilies
8-24-23, 9:30pm
It is pretty crazy!
OMG. What a morally reprehensible and physically repulsive man.
Potshots at the physical appearance of a 77 year old man detract from the issues. You can do better.
You can do better.
Like pointing out that he’s so dishonest that he can’t even tell the truth about his weight?
Personally I found the mugshot hilarious. I can’t wait for the courtroom sketch artist renditions of him during his trials. Someone once asked me what was the first news story that I remembered. It was the Patty Hearst trial. Every day Walter Chronkite would tell us what had happened at the trial that day and they would show the drawings from court that day. As a nine year old the story was riveting. And the name Symbionese Liberation Army? Awesome name for a group of bad guys! the fact that Walter told it with pictures every day was even more awesome. I couldn’t wait for each night’s installment and without the illustrations I doubt it would have captured my interest the way it did.
Like pointing out that he’s so dishonest that he can’t even tell the truth about his weight?
I was wondering about that. The bit of news I caught said, 6'3" 215 pounds. He looks more like 250 or 260. He does cover it up well.
catherine
8-25-23, 11:16am
My first thought is he or his MAGA folks might leverage that defiant-look mugshot to use on "revolution"-style campaign swag.
iris lilies
8-25-23, 11:16am
My first thought is he or his MAGA folks might leverage that defensive look mugshot to use on "revolution"-style campaign swag.
Yeah, I don’t think that picture is going to work against him in the long run.
For me it's not how he looks it's that he is there, in a mugshot, that he did things, allegedly, as president of the United States that resulted in him having a mugshot taken.
I thought Ms. Ells' mugshoot was unusually cheery.
Teacher Terry
8-25-23, 11:29am
I absolutely love that he was arrested! Since there’s 19 defendants some are going to turn into state witnesses for leniency and he will go down.
For me it's not how he looks it's that he is there, in a mugshot, that he did things, allegedly, as president of the United States that resulted in him having a mugshot taken.
I thought Ms. Ells' mugshoot was unusually cheery.
I think the only purpose of a mugshot for one of the most photographed persons in the world is to make a statement and perhaps rub someone's nose in it. That said, I think it was a mistake to do so. If he's elected next year, I'll blame the media and a politicized justice system for their years long efforts against him and, by extension, his supporters.
catherine
8-25-23, 11:51am
I think the only purpose of a mugshot for one of the most photographed persons in the world is to make a statement and perhaps rub someone's nose in it. .
That's what Jake Tapper was saying, and I agree. As happy as I am that he's being held accountable, I'm not sure that mugshot was necessary.
That's what Jake Tapper was saying, and I agree. As happy as I am that he's being held accountable, I'm not sure that mugshot was necessary.
There’s a big market for schadenfreude.
catherine
8-25-23, 12:19pm
There’s a big market for schadenfreude.
People underestimate how easily Trump will be able to use it to his advantage.
catherine
8-25-23, 12:37pm
And to my point:
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iris lilies
8-25-23, 1:21pm
And to my point:
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Exactly. I’m surprised they let him get away with that face. I suppose when one little police department technician is photographing the former President of the United States, he can’t really tell the President to relax his face and “act normal “. For anyone who thinks The Donald didn't know exactly what he was doing, I have a bridge to sell you.
For all of the Robs in the world who are all atwitter about The Donald Face, there are anti-Robs ALSO atwitter about The Face. It all works on the rachet gear of publicity for our former President.
Exactly. I’m surprised they let him get away with that face. I suppose when one little police department technician is photographing ....
I'm surprised at the horrible lighting used. It's not all that hard to do it correctly.
Five seconds spent in Lightroom properly bringing up the shadows and balancing the highlights provides a much more usable image even from that, but still, you'd think the photographing station would have correct lighting. I take more care when taking a photo of my cup of coffee.
On edit: a moment with Google reveals lots of offical "best practices" for taking mugshots from various state/local agencies, and indeed, it's not rocket science...
Portuguese John Here
8-25-23, 2:53pm
The US is an entertainment industry, otherwise, the mugshot wouldn't even be public.
Let's now talk about non-important divisive stuff for the next week or so.
If governmental entities are going to worry about photo quality one would think they might start with drivers' licenses since far more people have pictures taken for that than for mug shots.
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If governmental entities are going to worry about photo quality one would think they might start with drivers' licenses since far more people have pictures taken for that than for mug shots.
Truth! I renewed my drivers license during covid lockdown and for the first time ever wasn't allowed to wait the few minutes at the DMV and take my new license home with me. Had to leave with the promise I would receive it in the mail. What I got a week or so later was a license with a black & white, highly pixelated photo. I hardly recognized myself.
iris lilies
8-25-23, 5:32pm
If you people think you’re going to trick me into showing you my drivers license picture, do you have another think coming! Haha.
flowerseverywhere
8-26-23, 5:42am
People are saying that mug shot is beautiful. No one has had a more beautiful mugshot. Its a thing of beauty. I'm the only president who has had four, yes four indictments. Putin called me and we had the perfect conversation. Kim called me from North Korea, can you believe that? We are in love and he is sending me letters. I should be respected like they are. People should bow to me. I'm doing this all for the American people.
My mug shot can be on a coffee cup, t-shirt, or beer could made especially for you. On beautiful items made in China. Ivanka has connections you know.
I'm very very busy these days working on my campaign to be your favorite president once again. Plus my health care plan that is coming out in two weeks.
iris lilies
8-26-23, 10:40am
People are saying that mug shot is beautiful. No one has had a more beautiful mugshot. Its a thing of beauty. I'm the only president who has had four, yes four indictments. Putin called me and we had the perfect conversation. Kim called me from North Korea, can you believe that? We are in love and he is sending me letters. I should be respected like they are. People should bow to me. I'm doing this all for the American people.
My mug shot can be on a coffee cup, t-shirt, or beer could made especially for you. On beautiful items made in China. Ivanka has connections you know.
I'm very very busy these days working on my campaign to be your favorite president once again. Plus my health care plan that is coming out in two weeks.
My love for America is YUUUUGE! GINORMOUS! Topped only by my love for myself.
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People are saying that mug shot is beautiful. No one has had a more beautiful mugshot. Its a thing of beauty. I'm the only president who has had four, yes four indictments. Putin called me and we had the perfect conversation. Kim called me from North Korea, can you believe that? We are in love and he is sending me letters. I should be respected like they are. People should bow to me. I'm doing this all for the American people.
My mug shot can be on a coffee cup, t-shirt, or beer could made especially for you. On beautiful items made in China. Ivanka has connections you know.
I'm very very busy these days working on my campaign to be your favorite president once again. Plus my health care plan that is coming out in two weeks.
I can picture that in a SNL skit ;)
If you people think you’re going to trick me into showing you my drivers license picture, do you have another think coming! Haha.
But we know it won't be what you actually look like! After all, in real life I don't look like I've got a major sunburn going on.
I think the only purpose of a mugshot for one of the most photographed persons in the world is to make a statement and perhaps rub someone's nose in it. That said, I think it was a mistake to do so. If he's elected next year, I'll blame the media and a politicized justice system for their years long efforts against him and, by extension, his supporters.
I'm interested in knowing what you think his chances are to be nominated and elected. Too soon to answer?
I'm interested in knowing what you think his chances are to be nominated and elected. Too soon to answer?
Six months ago I thought there wasn't a chance in hell, but now I'm not so sure. The more time the media, the politicized justice system and Democrats in general spend trying to make him un-electable, the more he appears as a martyr to a growing number of Republicans and Independents.
In the run-up to the 2016 election, the media and Democrats made him a rock star in the belief that he'd get the nomination but then lose in the general. They were only half right, and it appears to me they haven't learned from their mistakes.
Six months ago I thought there wasn't a chance in hell, but now I'm not so sure. The more time the media, the politicized justice system and Democrats in general spend trying to make him un-electable, the more he appears as a martyr to a growing number of Republicans and Independents.
In the run-up to the 2016 election, the media and Democrats made him a rock star in the belief that he'd get the nomination but then lose in the general. They were only half right, and it appears to me they haven't learned from their mistakes.
Do you think he still has the support of Fox News? And how important is it if he does not?
Will his popularity survive criminal convictions, assuming they occur before the election?
Do you think he still has the support of Fox News? And how important is it if he does not?
Will his popularity survive criminal convictions, assuming they occur before the election?
I think Fox News gave up on him, but at least they've done so before the primaries or general election. Last time, MSNBC waited until the moment he was elected to stop promoting him.
I don't think it matters if Fox supports him or not, his future support is being supplied by all the liberal networks attempts to discredit him.
I'm not sure what effect any convictions may have but suspect if they don't happen before the election, and he wins, the charges will go away because they will not have achieved their desired result.
I think he has the nomination sewn up, unless something even more extraordinary happens to stop it.
ToomuchStuff
8-27-23, 9:41am
I think the only purpose of a mugshot for one of the most photographed persons in the world is to make a statement and perhaps rub someone's nose in it. That said, I think it was a mistake to do so. If he's elected next year, I'll blame the media and a politicized justice system for their years long efforts against him and, by extension, his supporters.
While both sides will use the mugshot for different reasons, can you name any case where someone wasn't given a mugshot (all equal under the law)?
That seems to be part of the whole thing about this case.
gimmethesimplelife
8-27-23, 11:48am
Something I find interesting about DJT - he has brought up issues that the Founding Fathers could not have forseen back in 1776. Such as - can he run for President with unresolved charges? Can he pardon himself? If incarcerated, can he still win if remaining on ballots and getting enough votes?
For these questions alone, if I was rich I'd be in Atlanta for his unprecedented trial. Can you imagine all the buzz in Buckhead during the trial? Rob
Something I find interesting about DJT - he has brought up issues that the Founding Fathers could not have forseen back in 1776. Such as - can he run for President with unresolved charges? Can he pardon himself? If incarcerated, can he still win if remaining on ballots and getting enough votes?
For these questions alone, if I was rich I'd be in Atlanta for his unprecedented trial. Can you imagine all the buzz in Buckhead during the trial? Rob
The founding fathers never envisioned that there would ever be a political party that failed to convict a president that was impeached for trying to overthrow the government. Or that a majority of the supporters of that political party would find both the overthrow attempt and the failure to convict to be perfectly acceptable. But yet, here we are.
The founding fathers never envisioned that there would ever be a political party that failed to convict a president that was impeached for trying to overthrow the government. Or that a majority of the supporters of that political party would find both the overthrow attempt and the failure to convict to be perfectly acceptable. But yet, here we are.
I agree--yet we lionize our own Founding Fathers for rejecting the wrongs that they perceived were inflicted by King George III. We have revolution in our blood, and I think those that defend January 6, for right or wrong, feel justified on the basis of what they think is their version of the Boston Tea Party.
And, as a musical theatre lover, I'll take this opportunity to share a relevant piece of American history via Hamilton:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERYukmba5Vg
This from Politico:
If Donald Trump wants to be on the ballot next year in all 50 states, he might first have to win an unprecedented courtroom battle over the “insurrection clause” of the 14th Amendment.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/01/fourteenth-amendment-insurrection-clause-trump-00113790
The insurrection clause is under review in New Hampshire. Let's see if the secretary of state and the attorney general are willing to invoke it.
I think those plotting ways to keep any individual off ballots at any level should give due consideration to whatever precedent they may achieve. Could someone like Chuck Schumer be next for standing on the steps off the Supreme Court and shouting "We're coming for you Roberts", or various and sundry Democrats on record declaring the 2016 election as invalid or stolen?
I'd like to see Trump just fade away but think an awful lot of folks are going about this in methods almost guaranteed to prevent it. But, maybe that's on purpose?
I think those plotting ways to keep any individual off ballots at any level should give due consideration to whatever precedent they may achieve. Could someone like Chuck Schumer be next for standing on the steps off the Supreme Court and shouting "We're coming for you Roberts", or various and sundry Democrats on record declaring the 2016 election as invalid or stolen?
I'd like to see Trump just fade away but think an awful lot of folks are going about this in methods almost guaranteed to prevent it. But, maybe that's on purpose?
It worked, as far as it went, with Cawthorn, but not with Greene. Admittedly, they're small time players compared with Trump. Neither of them seems remotely capable of inspiring a riot. Nor, of course, does Schumer.
I don't think the proponents, many of whom are Rs, hope to deliberately fail. I suspect they're desperate to keep Trump off the ballot. They consider him to be that dangerous to the country.
I actually agree with Alan. These never trumper republicans who claim it to be obvious that he can be blocked from the ballot via the 14th amendment just because we all saw the traitorous actions live on tv are being naive. It’s far better to let his legal proceedings work themselves out and then after he’s convicted get him blocked from the ballot.
Portuguese John Here
9-2-23, 12:12pm
https://youtu.be/tIsemTMgyO0
He made interesting points mixed with all nonsense told for effect. He's the type of guy that you don't like very much, but you know he got what it takes to take care of your interests. He has common sense, and believes in very little. Not having common sense, is what we have across the globe. Here's an example: today I was watching Euronews; Germany is investing in geothermal energy, which means they can extract 1/4 of their energy, specially for heating houses, from this system. They want this full force by 2030. Right after comes the commentary from some left wing extremists saying Germany should quit all fossil fuels. Now, this individual doesn't care that the costs of such polices would be unthinkable to common people, this individual does not care, he only cares about ideologies, not common sense. These individuals are not working providing technologies advancements to invent and transform what we have, so it can be a more affordable alternative to fossil fuels, their main focus is complaining.
He's the type of guy that you don't like very much, but you know he got what it takes to take care of your interests.
Wait, what?
Whose interests has Donald Trump worked for?
iris lilies
9-2-23, 1:45pm
Wait, what?
Whose interests has Donald Trump worked for?
If my interests are Donald Trump then you can bet he will work toward my interests.
Portuguese John Here
9-3-23, 1:57pm
Wait, what?
Whose interests has Donald Trump worked for?
It's basically what iris lilies said under, I just think America is taken care with Trump onboard. He can get things done, he's not someone's puppet, because he has money, he doesn't need anyone else's like the rest of the senate that spend 70% of their time raising money (https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1390&context=cjlpp) (read page 13) for the next election, and then certain polices are quietly approved, like genetic modified food not having to put that on the label (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/house-passes-bill-prevent-mandatory-gmo-food-labeling) (read White House statement here (https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/07/29/statement-press-secretary-hr-2607-hr-3700-hr-3931-hr-3953-hr-4010-hr)) approved by Obama. For me, it's either Sanders (does not take money from anyone), or Trump (who has money to run a campaign by himself), otherwise, they're making polices for the corporate machine. He made his career by taking advantage of the system, so he knows it very well, so he can fix it if he wants to (the wanting, read iris lilies again). He's taking care of hard-working people who were once the backbone of America, in the coal (he promised, and put them back to work), steel (taxing Chinese steel) and automotive industry (preventing Ford from going to Mexico for instance). He's retaining American brands in America by taxing the hell out of those who want to go abroad to be more competitive by making more money by exploiting other's misery. He's taxing the hell out of those foreign who want to sell cheap stuff in America thanks to their cheap labor, making Americans products once again available for the American people. He's trying to make America safer by sending back those who're involved in criminal activity in America (fewer people in private prisons paid by the American people). I like Trump for one simple fact. He knows what he says will make a lot of people hate him, and he needs votes, but he says it anyway, I respect that, and I'd probably be one of those who'd get angry about it. In terms of polices, I'm more with Sanders, but I think Trump can change things, not sure about Sanders.
If my interests are Donald Trump then you can bet he will work toward my interests.
iris lilies
9-3-23, 2:20pm
Bernie Sanders is just another ancient creaky old pol who refuses to step out of his seat of power, I suppose because he has people telling him every day how special he is.
iris lilies
9-4-23, 10:19am
I heard the Trump campaign sold $7 million in merchandise with his mug shot.
Bernie Sanders is just another ancient creaky old pol who refuses to step out of his seat of power, I suppose because he has people telling him every day how special he is.
That, and there’s good money to be made railing against “millionaires and billionaires”, even if you happen to be one. He wouldn’t be able to do that from the relative obscurity of MSNBC or some made-up job at one of our elite universities.
Bernie Sanders is just another ancient creaky old pol who refuses to step out of his seat of power, I suppose because he has people telling him every day how special he is.
He's exactly the same age as Mitch, and perhaps the GOP equivalent. If Ramaswhamy represents the up and coming millennials, I'll take the old guys
Gawd. I hope ramaswammy isn’t the best the millennials have to offer the world. If he is we’re all f’cked.
Teacher Terry
9-5-23, 10:11am
It's basically what iris lilies said under, I just think America is taken care with Trump onboard. He can get things done, he's not someone's puppet, because he has money, he doesn't need anyone else's like the rest of the senate that spend 70% of their time raising money (https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1390&context=cjlpp) (read page 13) for the next election, and then certain polices are quietly approved, like genetic modified food not having to put that on the label (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/house-passes-bill-prevent-mandatory-gmo-food-labeling) (read White House statement here (https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/07/29/statement-press-secretary-hr-2607-hr-3700-hr-3931-hr-3953-hr-4010-hr)) approved by Obama. For me, it's either Sanders (does not take money from anyone), or Trump (who has money to run a campaign by himself), otherwise, they're making polices for the corporate machine. He made his career by taking advantage of the system, so he knows it very well, so he can fix it if he wants to (the wanting, read iris lilies again). He's taking care of hard-working people who were once the backbone of America, in the coal (he promised, and put them back to work), steel (taxing Chinese steel) and automotive industry (preventing Ford from going to Mexico for instance). He's retaining American brands in America by taxing the hell out of those who want to go abroad to be more competitive by making more money by exploiting other's misery. He's taxing the hell out of those foreign who want to sell cheap stuff in America thanks to their cheap labor, making Americans products once again available for the American people. He's trying to make America safer by sending back those who're involved in criminal activity in America (fewer people in private prisons paid by the American people). I like Trump for one simple fact. He knows what he says will make a lot of people hate him, and he needs votes, but he says it anyway, I respect that, and I'd probably be one of those who'd get angry about it. In terms of polices, I'm more with Sanders, but I think Trump can change things, not sure about Sanders.
The Donald is too stupid to fix anything and I can’t believe you think he’s comparable to Bernie. If Bernie would have been the democratic nominee Donald wouldn’t have won and our country would have been spared much grief and not been so divided.
It's basically what iris lilies said under, I just think America is taken care with Trump onboard. He can get things done, he's not someone's puppet, because he has money, he doesn't need anyone else's like the rest of the senate that...
I have wondered recently what Donald actually did get done. That is compared to what he said he got done or what he promised to get done or what he ranted about getting done. And how that compares to Biden. For example, Trump ranted about drug prices, but what did he do. And what has Biden done. I suspect Trump set any clean energy efforts back and opened wonderful public lands that have native tribal value to oil exploration and drilling. And compare that to what Biden has done for climate change efforts and restoring public lands. One can look at the figures for deficient spending and national debt and any efforts to reduce government waste certainly don't show in the figures. All of his talk about curbing violence seemed to be just that, talk. Not to mention Jan. 6. Etc. How about his mediaeval wall that apparently never got finished, and how do immigration figures compare then and to now?
I have wondered recently what Donald actually did get done. That is compared to what he said he got done or what he promised to get done or what he ranted about getting done. And how that compares to Biden. For example, Trump ranted about drug prices, but what did he do. And what has Biden done. I suspect Trump set any clean energy efforts back and opened wonderful public lands that have native tribal value to oil exploration and drilling. And compare that to what Biden has done for climate change efforts and restoring public lands. One can look at the figures for deficient spending and national debt and any efforts to reduce government waste certainly don't show in the figures. All of his talk about curbing violence seemed to be just that, talk. Not to mention Jan. 6. Etc. How about his mediaeval wall that apparently never got finished, and how do immigration figures compare then and to now?
Good points...
I was going to say something similar. What Trump has done is not so great if what he had done is not what you want him to do. Rolling back 95 environmental laws and making an oil and coal bedfellow deputy of the EPA and a coal lobbyist deputy administrator makes whatever power he has by virtue of his wealth a reason NOT to vote for him, and scary. His policies would change on a dime if he found them not to be in HIS best interests. He doesn't speak for me, and he doesn't speak for the working class, and the impact of his pro-business policies prove that.
Portuguese John, you sound like my DH--he said he would vote for either Trump or Sanders, because they are not afraid to make enemies and distance themselves from the political machine, despite their being tied to it. I have always been pro-Sanders and anti-Trump because of what's important to me policy-wise, not just because they both come off as political outsiders.
Trump is a showman, and a narcissist, and that combination scares me.
iris lilies
9-5-23, 2:37pm
I have wondered recently what Donald actually did get done. That is compared to what he said he got done or what he promised to get done or what he ranted about getting done. And how that compares to Biden. For example, Trump ranted about drug prices, but what did he do. And what has Biden done. I suspect Trump set any clean energy efforts back and opened wonderful public lands that have native tribal value to oil exploration and drilling. And compare that to what Biden has done for climate change efforts and restoring public lands. One can look at the figures for deficient spending and national debt and any efforts to reduce government waste certainly don't show in the figures. All of his talk about curbing violence seemed to be just that, talk. Not to mention Jan. 6. Etc. How about his mediaeval wall that apparently never got finished, and how do immigration figures compare then and to now?
are you kidding? Trump did a lot. That does not mean I am saying you should like the things he did, I would never expect thst.
Just randomly, My memory was jogged
about one Trump accomplishment today, raising the IRS standard deduction by a whopping amount. I like that, that had impact in my life.
Don’t forget all of the free $$$ distributed during Covid.
also random, he signed legislation that was some sort of animal welfare bill my pet rescue friends noted although that kind if thing doesn't register much with me because I find it…usually poorly planned and yet another gumnt mandate that does not really do much.
are you kidding? Trump did a lot. That does not mean I am saying you should like the things he did, I would never expect thst.
Just randomly, My memory was jogged
about one Trump accomplishment today, raising the IRS standard deduction by a whopping amount. I like that, that had impact in my life.
Don’t forget all of the free $$$ distributed during Covid.
also random, he signed legislation that was some sort of animal welfare bill my pet rescue friends noted although that kind if thing doesn't register much with me because I find it…usually poorly planned and yet another gumnt mandate that does not really do much.
Let's not forget that he also avoided nuclear holocaust with N. Korea. I'll give to him for some covid issues later on but after he told everyone to attend Easter Sunday services before vaccinations when it was running rampant with dead people stacking up like firewood.
He obviously did something as president for four years. How lasting, positive and significant are up for debate, but Politico takes a slightly objective view.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/18/trump-presidency-administration-biggest-impact-policy-analysis-451479
I heard the Trump campaign sold $7 million in merchandise with his mug shot.
Which may or may not have been a mistake :-)
https://nypost.com/2023/09/05/trump-may-have-violated-copyright-law-by-selling-mugshot-merch/
Which may or may not have been a mistake :-)
https://nypost.com/2023/09/05/trump-may-have-violated-copyright-law-by-selling-mugshot-merch/
Karma is sweet:
"But legal scholars say that money may rightfully belong to the Fulton County Sheriff’s Office, which took the photo, as US copyright law stipulates that the law enforcement agency that takes a mugshot is the legal owner of it."
iris lilies
9-5-23, 4:17pm
Ooops! Haha.
well then I guess we can all look forward to yet another court case, the copyright lawsuit. Yawn.
Portuguese John Here
9-5-23, 4:23pm
Portuguese John, you sound like my DH--he said he would vote for either Trump or Sanders, because they are not afraid to make enemies and distance themselves from the political machine, despite their being tied to it. I have always been pro-Sanders and anti-Trump because of what's important to me policy-wise, not just because they both come off as political outsiders.
Trump is a showman, and a narcissist, and that combination scares me.
Yes, it's exactly why I like both, and I'd vote for any of them.
If I had to choose, Bernie all the way, I support all his polices, can't say the same about Trump, I'd say 50% are just populist.
And yes, Trump is a showman, a narcissist, no doubt, although, the alternatives are incapable two-faced people, I prefer the devil I can see. It's very hard nowadays to find a proficient-experienced intelligent and cunning individual that has the image and fluency, that can endure the stress and pressure of the hard task of making global decisions that can impact the planet's direction, almost no one is capable.
If you want to find the better fit for a position of power, find someone who doesn't want it but is capable. There were not many cases in history, some in the ancient China, given to Taoist hermits, Xo You, who refused, and some in Rome that I know, not sure in Greece. In Rome, when a general won a great battle, he had a slave that whispered, all the way: "You're just a man, and you're going to die", it's known as memento morri. The highest form of humility is not getting over yourself, you come from dust, and to dust you will return, like everyone else, in the old days that was the ideal, not today.
“The wise man knows that it is better to sit on the banks of a remote mountain stream than to be emperor of the whole world.”
― Zhuangzi
Ooops! Haha.
well then I guess we can all look forward to yet another court case, the copyright lawsuit. Yawn.
Seems to me like making $7 million in profit by stealing someone else's intellectual property might have, in a previous age, risen to the level of "a big deal".
I wonder also if Georgia has any "Son of Sam"-type laws on the books, prohibiting profiting from a crime? It might seem that selling merch with mugshots could trip over those sorts of regulations.
But as Trump said, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"
iris lilies
9-5-23, 4:45pm
Seems to me like making $7 million in profit by stealing someone else's intellectual property might have, in a previous age, risen to the level of "a big deal".
I wonder also if Georgia has any "Son of Sam"-type laws on the books, prohibiting profiting from a crime? It might seem that selling merch with mugshots could trip over those sorts of regulations.
But as Trump said, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"
I don’t mean it is a mInor thing but when compared to an attempt to overthrow our government, well yeah, I cannot get too excited about it ‘tho 7 million is quite a lot to go after and maybe Georgia taxpayers would come out ahead in a lawsuit.
But people take copyright infringement casually. heck we have the verboten image on this very thread. Is it exempt here as Fair Use? Who knows.
I wonder also if Georgia has any "Son of Sam"-type laws on the books, prohibiting profiting from a crime? It might seem that selling merch with mugshots could trip over those sorts of regulations.
Has he been convicted of a crime in Georgia? Also, how does an individual's "right to publicity" impact Trump's usage of his own image?
Edited to add another question: If a rival politician or party used the image for fundraising purposes, should those funds be returned to the Georgia Sheriff's office under the theory that only the photographer may profit from someone else's likeness?
Has he been convicted of a crime in Georgia?
Not yet. Thus my use of the word "could".
As to your second question, there you have two competing interests. Georgia may own this specific image, perhaps prohibiting Trump from using it, as Georgia likely has the copyright. However, Georgia may not be able to sell merch with the image and profit from it.
This sort of thing is why I get signed model releases when I'm taking photos for profit. The PPA provides all sorts of useful discussion of these issues, and sample contracts/releases, along with decent equipment insurance for a small and reasonable yearly fee.
(The more interesting questions here concern the "Son of Sam" laws, and the 1st Amendment, there has been much consternation over the years.)
My understanding was that most states have “open records” laws that would allow publication of that sort of image. In my state, the exceptions to that would be juvenile criminal records, health information or the home address of police officers.
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