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iris lilies
12-12-23, 6:13pm
My dog has been labeled a dangerous dog by our condo association. The condo President called a few weeks ago to talk about Whiskey’s behavior. He asked us to put a muzzle on him. Whiskey had met a dog at the elevator door and got aggressive with that dog. There was another time when a new resident on the building, someone, I now consider an idiot, let his dog off leash to bound around the condo’s yard, and of course, that dog came up to Whiskey and Whiskey went after him.

No skin was broken in the altercations, but the owner of the first dog was scared, and I don’t blame her. I do not want her to be scared. She’s a young lady with some intellectual disability, but she lives in her little condo on her own with her little dog. I don’t want her life to be hassled.

My dog, Whiskey, is a jerk. He does not play well with others.. This is why he ended up in Bulldog rescue. This is why we had to give up a darling foster dog who I wanted to keep. Whiskey beat up on her. His behavior with her was unpredictable: sometimes he played with her. He often slept with her. They cuddled. And then he would turn around and beat her up. She did not one thing to invoke his anger, actually, she was very sophisticated in dealing with him.

so I’m having trouble finding a muzzle that fits a short nosed dog. I bought the one recommended by our bulldog leader, and it doesn’t work for him, he won’t wear it.

And as an added complication, I can no longer drop him off at the boarding facility near us because there’s a disease going around dog populations and it is not advisable for them to be boarded.

More on this later…

catherine
12-12-23, 6:20pm
Oh, gee, that's a bummer. I'm sure you looked online, but it seems there are short-nosed bulldogs.

I don't know why, but this one makes me laugh--it is very "Hannibal Lechter":

https://www.amazon.com/Ohcozzy-Adjustable-Breathe-Bulldog-Bitting/dp/B0C8173GMQ/ref=asc_df_B0C8173GMQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=673827690229&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=472273665844386336&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003018&hvtargid=pla-2253221211047&mcid=8047da7e7112333c9ec5b945f437380f&th=1

Here's another one for an English Bulldog. https://www.all-about-english-bulldog-dog-breed.com/bulldog-supplies-c-8/best-fit-dog-muzzle-for-english-bulldog-p-421.html



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iris lilies
12-12-23, 6:46pm
Oh, gee, that's a bummer. I'm sure you looked online, but it seems there are short-nosed bulldogs.

I don't know why, but this one makes me laugh--it is very "Hannibal Lechter":

https://www.amazon.com/Ohcozzy-Adjustable-Breathe-Bulldog-Bitting/dp/B0C8173GMQ/ref=asc_df_B0C8173GMQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=673827690229&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=472273665844386336&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003018&hvtargid=pla-2253221211047&mcid=8047da7e7112333c9ec5b945f437380f&th=1

Here's another one for an English Bulldog. https://www.all-about-english-bulldog-dog-breed.com/bulldog-supplies-c-8/best-fit-dog-muzzle-for-english-bulldog-p-421.html



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They ALL are scary Hannibal Lecter- like.

I think I’m going to attempt to sew one, one that he will wear that is soft, it’s only for show anyway. We’re not gonna let him get near any other dog, unless some asshole lets their dog run up to him off leash. That would be the asshole’s fault.

We took Whiskey to the dog park one time when we moved here thinking that we would give him one more chance to see how he could get along. He did not do well at all. However, he didn’t bite and fight, there was one other dog there who was super laid-back. Whiskey crawled all over him, wanting to dominate him. But no biting no attacking.

The laid-back dog, some sort of hound mix, just let Whiskey do whatever. We didn’t let that go on for long and even though the other dog’s mom was very nice saying “ oh that’s OK!” it wasn’t at all OK. Her dog was so sweet and ours was a dominating asshole.

iris lilies
12-12-23, 6:48pm
Oh, gee, that's a bummer. I'm sure you looked online, but it seems there are short-nosed bulldogs.

I don't know why, but this one makes me laugh--it is very "Hannibal Lechter":

https://www.amazon.com/Ohcozzy-Adjustable-Breathe-Bulldog-Bitting/dp/B0C8173GMQ/ref=asc_df_B0C8173GMQ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=673827690229&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=472273665844386336&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003018&hvtargid=pla-2253221211047&mcid=8047da7e7112333c9ec5b945f437380f&th=1

Here's another one for an English Bulldog. https://www.all-about-english-bulldog-dog-breed.com/bulldog-supplies-c-8/best-fit-dog-muzzle-for-english-bulldog-p-421.html



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The 2nd one Is the one I’ve thought about buying as my second try, but I don’t think he would wear it. He’ll just shake it off and pull it off. I need to get him something soft that doesn’t bother him so much.

it’s all for show anyway.

littlebittybobby
12-13-23, 10:41pm
Okay---could told ya so--after all, them Pitt bulldogs are a dangerous breed. Yup. What I'd suggest is dump that Dogg off in E. St Louis, and see a reputable breeder about a westhighland terrier. Yup. Prollem solved.

lmerullo
12-14-23, 7:20pm
IL - I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. I'm also concerned for you.

Disclaimer - not a lawyer, etc - but just yesterday my son's Chihuahua was attacked by the neighbor's dog, so we looked up the law (Florida). It SEEMS that regardless of what the victim dog does, the biter and their owner are liable. So if the idiot owner allows off leash romps (likely against ordinances) and prance's up to your dog and your dog takes a munch, they can get all.medical bills and even further compensation for the injuries. Just please be careful.

That said, there must be a way to train your dog to accept the muzzle. Can they still get little treats while wearing it? Off to look into those links for snubby nosed dog muzzles.

pony mom
12-31-23, 10:16pm
Okay---could told ya so--after all, them Pitt bulldogs are a dangerous breed. Yup. What I'd suggest is dump that Dogg off in E. St Louis, and see a reputable breeder about a westhighland terrier. Yup. Prollem solved.

FYI her dog is a Bulldog, not a pit bull. Your comment wasn't necessary.

boss mare
1-2-24, 9:00pm
The 2nd one Is the one I’ve thought about buying as my second try, but I don’t think he would wear it. He’ll just shake it off and pull it off. I need to get him something soft that doesn’t bother him so much.

it’s all for show anyway.

I don't know if you are on FB, but there is a great page called " Muzzle Up Pup" . I covers trainiong them to accept one, how to size one for your type of dog... Its a got alot of good advice

iris lilies
1-2-24, 9:02pm
I don't know if you are on FB, but there is a great page called " Muzzle Up Pup" . I covers trainiong them to accept one, how to size one for your type of dog... Its a got alot of good advice
I will check that out.. I have not muzzled a dog before and I’m stuck here on this issue.


This weekend we’re going to our condo, so I hired a dog sitter to come and take care of our dog rather than take him with us.

Simone
1-6-24, 12:11am
I never owned a dog and may be straying into heresy, but what do people think about medicating aggressive dogs? I know cats and dogs sometimes take psychoactive drugs for anxiety, but what about for aggression?

iris lilies
1-6-24, 4:57am
I never owned a dog and may be straying into heresy, but what do people think about medicating aggressive dogs? I know cats and dogs sometimes take psychoactive drugs for anxiety, but what about for aggression?
No.
my dog is reactive to other dogs. How could he be drugged for all of his life for the occasional dog meetup?

my dog is also anxious at riding in the car and he has doggie Xanex for those occasions, although we haven’t given him meds for that for more than a year. He's getting a little better about car rides.

pony mom
1-7-24, 10:42pm
Someone on my horse forum bought a "last of the litter" border collie and he behaved unpredictably around dogs and people. When he was good, he was the most amazing, wonderful dog. But he would randomly turn aggressive for no reason anyone could see. And since he was a danger to her young daughter and older smaller dog, she made the difficult decision to euthanize him. Her vet thought that maybe he had something wrong in his brain. She wouldn't try to find him another home knowing how he behaved.

My little rescue dog is reactive around other dogs and people. Her foster family couldn't wait to get rid of her because she wasn't good with the other dogs. Since I got her last year I've been training her to redirect her attention to me when she spots anyone/anything that she wants to react to. The book Click to Calm was a great help. (YouTube has a few videos by the author Emma Parsons) Now when we go on walks, if she sees something worrying, she immediately looks at me (click/treat). I can now get her past most dogs and people without a problem. She will also gradually approach a stranger IF they do what I ask them. They immediately want to bend over to pet her or approach her, which scares her and makes her worse. IF they stay still and ignore her, I can c/t each time she tries to approach. After a few tries, she'll go up to them for a sniff.

If your dog is food motivated, it's not difficult to redirect his attention to you. Your poor dog wasn't at fault when the loose dog ran up to him, and it's unfortunate that we can't control every situation. I know my neighbors found my dog annoying (typical Chihuahua behavior) but even they tell me she's gotten so much better and don't mind her when she has the odd outburst.