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gimmethesimplelife
6-13-24, 7:24pm
to keep my high paying job. Today the DOJ released it's findings regarding the Phoenix PD and yep, per the DOJ I'm entirely justified in my take on them and always have been.

I was not able to go to neighborhood events today due to work and I'm working a double today, no time for drop ins tonight, either. I will be able to show my face in the morning though provided no drama takes place overnight. But it's difficult - I understand this is a price tag to hold my job, and I am grateful for the chance to hoard cash at my age - but it's difficult. I should be out there in the neighborhood but I can't be two places at once and if I want to keep this job, I am needed here. Rob

Tradd
6-13-24, 8:25pm
So being a productive adult is a shameful thing? You surely are Catholic for all the guilt you wallow in.

gimmethesimplelife
6-13-24, 8:47pm
So being a productive adult is a shameful thing? You surely are Catholic for all the guilt you wallow in.Not to beat a dead horse here.....these issues have been going on where I live for years and now the DOJ agrees with me on this. Some of the people I know here have been on the front lines with me on this and it's a very special day for us all. It's a big deal to me that I am not present - but I also understand this is the price of this job or another similar job, I am making the best of it. Rob

bae
6-13-24, 9:20pm
What are you going to remember 20 years from now? Working a double-shift for The Man, allowing him to skim off the surplus value of your labour? Or going to your neighborhood celebrations for an outcome you all have been working hard on for ages?

Take some PTO, or call in sick. 20 years from now your employer won't even remember your name.

flowerseverywhere
6-14-24, 4:29am
I just read some articles about this. It is interesting one of the departments complaints against the finding is they did not have a chance to review the findings first. despite protestations about the report, there were hours of video from body cams and evidence like that is impossible to explain away.

if you absolutely cannot get away, plan a celebration with your friends and neighbors in a few days. Nothing like a cookout or get together to celebrate.

It seems like you are in a dilemma that brought many to forums like this. The value of your time vs. the monetary value of work. However things like mortgages, our for profit health care system and so on weigh heavily on our decisions.

happystuff
6-14-24, 9:42am
It stinks being in such a situation. I do agree with bae - if you have not already excessively taken advantage of PTO and/or time off, then I don't see why you can't do it for this event. As long as it is not a recurring thing that interferes with your job and you maintain a good work ethic, I say go for it!

Rogar
6-14-24, 12:59pm
There's a difference between sacrificing some personal time for work every now and then, and having to deal with it routinely or often. Eating one's vegetables before desert is the price to pay sometimes.

LDAHL
6-14-24, 2:48pm
Setting priorities between work and other interests and obligations is more or less a universal challenge. Especially if you have kids.

gimmethesimplelife
6-22-24, 6:22pm
I just read some articles about this. It is interesting one of the departments complaints against the finding is they did not have a chance to review the findings first. despite protestations about the report, there were hours of video from body cams and evidence like that is impossible to explain away.

if you absolutely cannot get away, plan a celebration with your friends and neighbors in a few days. Nothing like a cookout or get together to celebrate.

It seems like you are in a dilemma that brought many to forums like this. The value of your time vs. the monetary value of work. However things like mortgages, our for profit health care system and so on weigh heavily on our decisions.I have thought over your post here - it really has made me stop in my tracks and think. Namely, I remember reading of stressed out yuppies making great money were simplifying and that always mystified me as I could not fathom being in that situation. And yet here I am - though I have no intention of leaving my job, nor am I unhappy - all i am saying is that I do give up a lot of time for this job. Rob

iris lilies
6-22-24, 10:12pm
I have thought over your post here - it really has made me stop in my tracks and think. Namely, I remember reading of stressed out yuppies making great money were simplifying and that always mystified me as I could not fathom being in that situation. And yet here I am - though I have no intention of leaving my job, nor am I unhappy - all i am saying is that I do give up a lot of time for this job. Rob

people of all classes, but for the independently wealthy, have either time or money.


Whether you’re a working stiff or middle class white collar worker or a CEO of Megacorp who reports to a Board of Directors you have to exchange your time for money.


That was the lesson of the book “your money or your life. “

LDAHL
6-23-24, 1:58pm
It’s an aspect of life where it’s more productive to search for acceptable tradeoffs than solutions.

jp1
6-23-24, 3:49pm
people of all classes, but for the independently wealthy, have either time or money.


Whether you’re a working stiff or middle class white collar worker or a CEO of Megacorp who reports to a Board of Directors you have to exchange your time for money.


That was the lesson of the book “your money or your life. “

You've got me thinking about a tangent that the book didn't address (or if it did I totally missed it). That being that people who still work may also spend time on unpaid activities outside work that are important to them. Since life energy is life energy no matter what it's spent on maybe those activities should be tracked in the same fashion. For example, Rob could calculate that it cost him X amount of life energy to work when he wanted to be elsewhere. (If it was a 3 hour event and he makes $30/hour that would be $90 of lost life energy.) If one is routinely missing out on things, whether it's political events, volunteer opportunities, or even one's kid's school play or soccer game, whatever is important to them, eventually that number might add up to the point that the person will look at ways to make changes.

LDAHL
6-26-24, 10:17am
You've got me thinking about a tangent that the book didn't address (or if it did I totally missed it). That being that people who still work may also spend time on unpaid activities outside work that are important to them. Since life energy is life energy no matter what it's spent on maybe those activities should be tracked in the same fashion. For example, Rob could calculate that it cost him X amount of life energy to work when he wanted to be elsewhere. (If it was a 3 hour event and he makes $30/hour that would be $90 of lost life energy.) If one is routinely missing out on things, whether it's political events, volunteer opportunities, or even one's kid's school play or soccer game, whatever is important to them, eventually that number might add up to the point that the person will look at ways to make changes.

You make a very good point. I always thought YMOYL tended to take an oversimplified, all- or-nothing view of balancing work with everything else. In the real world, it might make more sense to consider the marginal utility of an hour worked net of associated overheads versus whatever alternate use you’re considering for the time. Or to consider the future value of an hour worked now against multiple hours you can avoid working in the future.

Shorn of the semi-mystical “life energy” and twelve-stepper stuff, it’s really just finance and accounting.

gimmethesimplelife
6-26-24, 9:35pm
I did make it to a BBQ with SO recently to celebrate the DOJ findings. It's not over yet, just like Carrie Fisher said in the first Star Wars. Not the City of Phoenix is resisting a Consent Decree and it's looking as if the DOJ will have to litigate against the City of Phoenix to force compliance. I live in Pboenix - why am I not surprised?

At any rate, I did get to mingle in the neighborhood. I am so proud of so many of my long term neighbors. Rob

happystuff
6-27-24, 5:36pm
At any rate, I did get to mingle in the neighborhood. I am so proud of so many of my long term neighbors. Rob

It makes me happy and gives me hope when I hear from people who feel they have landed where they belong - which it seems you have!

gimmethesimplelife
6-30-24, 6:25pm
It makes me happy and gives me hope when I hear from people who feel they have landed where they belong - which it seems you have!Thank You! What a kind and beautiful sentiment. Rob