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From the tollway to the lake, people are boarding up their businesses in anticipation of the struggle for Palestinian liberation extending to the liberation of their inventory. The CPD is being reinforced by hundreds of cops from other jurisdictions. Keffiyehs are being laundered. Stages and sound systems are being set up.
All for a political convention that’s even more of a foregone conclusion than usual.
A friend of mine works at a big bank downtown. They're in the office 5 days a week. They were all told to work from home beginning late last week through this week. Lots of boarded up businesses.
I get the sense that some people are going to be disappointed if this doesn’t turn out like the 1968 convention.
If people weren’t preparing and it did turn out that way those same people hoping for a mess would have yet another thing to gripe about.
iris lilies
8-18-24, 7:03pm
I get the sense that some people are going to be disappointed if this doesn’t turn out like the 1968 convention.
If people weren’t preparing and it did turn out that way those same people hoping for a mess would have yet another thing to gripe about.
And I’ll bet you would somehow blame it on Trump.
I get the sense that some people are going to be disappointed if this doesn’t turn out like the 1968 convention.
If people weren’t preparing and it did turn out that way those same people hoping for a mess would have yet another thing to gripe about.
Are you actually blaming businesses for boarding up? Just four years ago downtown Chicago was looted and some stores burned in those riots. People remember.
Are you actually blaming businesses for boarding up? Just four years ago downtown Chicago was looted and some stores burned in those riots. People remember.
No. I’m saying they are being prudent. But I’m also saying it’s a win/win for the haters. Hate them for taking precautions or hate them if they didn’t take precautions after the results are bad. Can’t win either way.
No. I’m saying they are being prudent. But I’m also saying it’s a win/win for the haters. Hate them for taking precautions or hate them if they didn’t take precautions after the results are bad. Can’t win either way.
Why would anyone hate them for taking precautions?
Why would anyone hate them for taking precautions?
The same reason they’d gleefully be hoping for a violent convention.
iris lilies
8-19-24, 9:04am
The same reason they’d gleefully be hoping for a violent convention.
In others words, just hate ‘em.
I can get a little nostalgic over the time I shared a drink with Bobby Seale back in the 80's. I assume The Trial of the Chicago 7 is still running on Netflix. A little too much Hollywood to be a pure documentary, but an interesting time in our history.
Though your brother's bound and gagged
And they've chained him to a chair
Won't you please come to Chicago
Just to sing
iris lilies
8-19-24, 12:33pm
I can get a little nostalgic over the time I shared a drink with Bobby Seale back in the 80's. I assume The Trial of the Chicago 7 is still running on Netflix. A little too much Hollywood to be a pure documentary, but an interesting time in our history.
Though your brother's bound and gagged
And they've chained him to a chair
Won't you please come to Chicago
Just to sing
aw, I can’t claim fame to having drinks with a Panther, but once I had lunch with the live-in boyfriend of Bernadine Dorn, the guy who lived with her around the time of The Troubles*
*bombing, killings, murders, you know, that kind of disruptive protest
In others words, just hate ‘em.
I realize most people don’t surf the Fox News comments section like I do. But assuming those comments are representative the majority of maga seems positively gleeful at the idea of chaos at the convention. And that’s ignoring the 10-20% that gleefully believe that they will somehow prevent the election from even happening in November and then trump will somehow magically get back in charge.
I realize most people don’t surf the Fox News comments section like I do. But assuming those comments are representative the majority of maga seems positively gleeful at the idea of chaos at the convention. And that’s ignoring the 10-20% that gleefully believe that they will somehow prevent the election from even happening in November and then trump will somehow magically get back in charge.
I've never read the Fox News comments section, but from your description it sort of sounds like the 'Why Not To Vote Republican' thread here which was very active for several years. Like our thread, I suspect you're reading comments from just a small number of people who simply hate their perceived opposition. Personally, I'll admit being curious about just how 'mostly peaceful' the DNC protests will be and look forward to seeing how they'll be represented in the media, and here.
I'm also curious about your claim that 10-20% believe they will prevent the election from happening. How are they going to do that?
I suppose I will just shrug my shoulders at anyone that thinks that the comment section of fox ‘news’ is fringe. And then laugh at them when Kamala beats their sorry asses in November and then drift back into the irrelevance that they lived in before 2016.
OMG, I'm so surprised at myself. I watched most of the DNC coverage last night and almost made it through Joe's speech before getting tired and going to bed. I finished watching the last 20 minutes just now, and I'm crying! Like, sobbing! I thought the last few minutes of his speech were so touching. Maybe I'm way too naive about politics, but there was something about the way he spoke of his 50 year contribution to the country--the lyrics of the song American Anthem; his line "I was too young to be Senator, and now I'm too old to be President" that just got to me. Maybe because he illustrates what ultimately happens to us all, despite all we do in our lives, despite our best intentions. You can say what you want about Joe, but I think he's a good man and he gave a good speech last night.
Now to go get some Kleenex.
ETA: The New York Times, on its front page coverage of the convention, basically just kicked Joe to the curb. Hardly any mention of the speech and when there was a mention, it was disparaging. OTOH, CNN did a much better job. https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/20/politics/biden-speech-analysis/index.html
I used to think the NYT and WSJ were about as objective as is possible in today's world, but both of those newspapers have become much more politicized
OMG, I'm so surprised at myself. I watched most of the DNC coverage last night and almost made it through Joe's speech before getting tired and going to bed. I finished watching the last 20 minutes just now, and I'm crying! Like, sobbing! I thought the last few minutes of his speech were so touching. Maybe I'm way too naive about politics, but there was something about the way he spoke of his 50 year contribution to the country--the lyrics of the song American Anthem; his line "I was too young to be Senator, and now I'm too old to be President" that just got to me. Maybe because he illustrates what ultimately happens to us all, despite all we do in our lives, despite our best intentions. You can say what you want about Joe, but I think he's a good man and he gave a good speech last night.
Now to go get some Kleenex.
ETA: The New York Times, on its front page coverage of the convention, basically just kicked Joe to the curb. Hardly any mention of the speech and when there was a mention, it was disparaging. OTOH, CNN did a much better job. https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/20/politics/biden-speech-analysis/index.html
I used to think the NYT and WSJ were about as objective as is possible in today's world, but both of those newspapers have become much more politicized
CNN gushed about how moving and profound it was, as if he was some kind of Cincinnatus voluntarily stepping down for the good of the nation. The people who pushed him out all clapped and smiled. It struck me as about as genuine as a professional wrestling match. But this entire cycle is shaping up to be entirely substance-free.
iris lilies
8-20-24, 11:41am
CNN gushed about how moving and profound it was, as if he was some kind of Cincinnatus voluntarily stepping down for the good of the nation. The people who pushed him out all clapped and smiled. It struck me as about as genuine as a professional wrestling match. But this entire cycle is shaping up to be entirely substance-free.
The history books will show Biden gave up running again and will not expose the closed door machinations of Nancy Pelosi to force him out.
Unfortunately, my ire is abating with the passage of time, ire at the team that hid Biden’s incapacity for so long.
I feel I might give Kamala my vote. Ugh. I do not want to carry hate in my heart like JP1 does, yet these lying liars (those who surround Biden and prop him up) need a slapdown.
catherine
8-20-24, 12:13pm
CNN gushed about how moving and profound it was, as if he was some kind of Cincinnatus voluntarily stepping down for the good of the nation. The people who pushed him out all clapped and smiled. It struck me as about as genuine as a professional wrestling match. But this entire cycle is shaping up to be entirely substance-free.
Yes, CNN did gush, but in a sense their gushing matched my own reaction more closely than the NYT. I did cringe a little when I saw Pelosi pumping her "we love you, Joe" sign.
IL, I agree that the Democratic Party can be very, very wily. I still harbor resentment in terms of how they+Clintons treated Bernie back in 2016.
There were many less pro-Palestinian protestors yesterday than were expected. LOL.
iris lilies
8-20-24, 1:56pm
There were many less pro-Palestinian protestors yesterday than were expected. LOL.
Any fun signs about killing Jews, tho?
There were many less pro-Palestinian protestors yesterday than were expected. LOL.
Yeah. A lousy thirteen arrests.
I heard they have something planned for the Israeli consulate today.
Other than the news reviews, the only speech I streamed was AOC. She got a lot of press for her fiery speech. It was mostly the usual political rhetoric you might expect, but I had some great appreciation for her oration energy and skills.
I recall that Donald had Hulk Hogan as one of his introductory speakers.
Other than the news reviews, the only speech I streamed was AOC. She got a lot of press for her fiery speech. It was mostly the usual political rhetoric you might expect, but I had some great appreciation for her oration energy and skills.
I recall that Donald had Hulk Hogan as one of his introductory speakers.
Yeah, I remember they called the Republican Convention a testosterone-fest. Not to diminish Hulk Hogan though. I like him.
I can't believe how addicted I am to this election cycle. I've had the Democratic Convention on all day while I was cleaning the house, and I was irritated when DH changed the channel while we ate dinner. It's back on now. I'm watching the roll call. What could be more boring? but I can't tear myself away. I don't want to miss Bernie... or Doug, or Michelle, or Barack.
I am waiting for Barack - probably the only politician I liked a lot.
72 were arrested yesterday after a protest in front of the Israel consulate here in Chicago. They attempted to break through a police bike line barrier.
iris lilies
8-21-24, 9:52am
Yeah, I remember they called the Republican Convention a testosterone-fest. Not to diminish Hulk Hogan though. I like him.
I can't believe how addicted I am to this election cycle. I've had the Democratic Convention on all day while I was cleaning the house, and I was irritated when DH changed the channel while we ate dinner. It's back on now. I'm watching the roll call. What could be more boring? but I can't tear myself away. I don't want to miss Bernie... or Doug, or Michelle, or Barack.
I’m not watching any of the political stuff because I’m not a serious person. Instead, I’m re-watching episodes of television’s greatest comedy, “Veep.”
After vice president Selena loses Iowa and New Hampshire in her campaign, the President of the United States unexpectedly steps down. Selena is now President.
Sound familiar? Life imitates Art.
We should be putting money on Kamala freeing Tibet as her memorable presidential act.
littlebittybobby
8-21-24, 11:12am
okay----tell ya what----for that kind of excitement(and a little less), i take my chair up to the intersection on the designated day and watch 'em burn rubber & make noise. yup.
The only speech I heard last night was Bernie. I don't think he had to work too hard on it as it was the same speech he's been giving for years. It might be about time for him to make room for a younger generation, although I do like him.
catherine
8-21-24, 12:26pm
I agree that Bernie's speech was far from the most memorable. I did really enjoy Emhoff and the Obamas, particularly Michelle.
I’m not watching any of the political stuff because I’m not a serious person. Instead, I’m re-watching episodes of television’s greatest comedy, “Veep.”
After vice president Selena loses Iowa and New Hampshire in her campaign, the President of the United States unexpectedly steps down. Selena is now President.
Sound familiar? Life imitates Art.
We should be putting money on Kamala freeing Tibet as her memorable presidential act.
Sometimes life becomes art. If she succeeds in overcoming the doubts within her own party and the country at large, almost all on the strength of what people say about her rather than what she says for herself, she will have to thank an image makeover like few others. By a comprehensive abandonment of her prior history and principles, she will be the most successful media creation since the Monkees.
By a comprehensive abandonment of her prior history and principles, she will be the most successful media creation since the Monkees.
A brilliant comparison, and accurate to boot!
A brilliant comparison, and accurate to boot!
I used that line on some thirtysomething nephews and nieces, and all I got were blank stares.
I used that line on some thirtysomething nephews and nieces, and all I got were blank stares.
Maybe substitute Milli Vanilli?
Maybe substitute Milli Vanilli?
Still a couple of years before they were born.
My dose of the third convention was Bill Clinton. He hasn't lost his ability to kiss the Blarney Stone with age. Not exactly an orator, but a talent for communication. He was speaking from hard copy notes on paper which is pretty old school these days. He did run over a bit. One of the commentators said a favorite part of one of his older talks was when he said, "In conclusion..." I had to turn it off when Pelosi came on.
catherine
8-22-24, 12:17pm
I agree with your assessment, Rogar. Some of the convention was boring, but a good bit of it was very entertaining and even inspiring. I missed a couple of speeches I'm going to catch today--Josh Shapiro and Pete Buttegieg, but I loved Amanda Gorman, Oprah, Hakeem Jeffries, and Tim Walz. I really thought Oprah's speech was super.
I couldn’t listen to all of them, but I did stream Buttigieg. He always impresses me. Tonight’s agenda is supposed to have the environment as a theme. That will be interesting
Getting Kamala's neices out there to explain how to pronounce her name was brilliant. Anyone like Nancy Mace who continues to mispronounce it will be correctly identified as a damn AH when even young elementary school kids have no problem with it. Judging from this week the democrats seem to have finally figured out how to deal with that sad orange clown. Don't get upset with him. Just laugh at and mock the buffoonery.
Judging from this week the democrats seem to have finally figured out how to deal with that sad orange clown. Don't get upset with him. Just laugh at and mock the buffoonery.
I think you quite possibly may be right. A campaign of joyous vacuity could well succeed against Trump’s glowering resentment. Especially in the short time remaining before the election.
The best a guy like me can hope for at this point is four years of gridlock.
The best a guy like me can hope for at this point is four years of gridlock.
Gridlock is often the optimal outcome anyways.
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