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iris lilies
10-21-24, 10:57am
I seldom pay attention to the political talking points of the day because I eventually hear about them here from JP1.. He’s very good about distributing the talking points.
But today I may have the script before JP! Here’s the Democratic talking point for the day:
it is ILLOGICAL for Donald Trump to have worked at McDonald’s recently. There is NO LOGIC to that stunt.
so now you all can go forth and spread the anti-Trump talking point of the day.
Me, I thought DJT’s stint making fries at McDonald’s was funny and it got media attention which is the point.
Looks like the usual suspects have chosen to get indignant over it. MSNBC calling it illogical. The New York Times informing us that that franchise once failed a health inspection. Pretty much everybody claiming he’s trolling Harris’s claim about working at McDonald’s. I suspect if Trump had made a similar claim there would be task forces assigned to debunk it. It would be a bigger story than Alito’s flagpole.
it is ILLOGICAL for Donald Trump to have worked at McDonald’s recently. There is NO LOGIC to that stunt.
I understand that the "I don't know how to load my own shotgun" stunt had already been taken.
I understand that the "I don't know how to load my own shotgun" stunt had already been taken.
He couldn’t figure out where the arrows go. Should have bought American.
I understand that the "I don't know how to load my own shotgun" stunt had already been taken.
I missed that one, what happened?
I missed that one, what happened?
During Tim Walz' recent pheasant hunt media event, after being decked out in new Elmer Fudd attire and advising the camera he'd be using his personal Beretta A400 shotgun which he frequently used in one of his favorite sports, trapshooting, he awkwardly struggled on camera trying to load the weapon.
During Tim Walz' recent pheasant hunt media event, after being decked out in new Elmer Fudd attire and advising the camera he'd be using his personal Beretta A400 shotgun which he frequently used in one of his favorite sports, trapshooting, he awkwardly struggled on camera trying to load the weapon.
I found a short clip of that just now, thanks!
It looks to me like he might be *unloading* the Beretta (for instance, shells seem to be coming out of it and going into his pocket). If I recall, unloading that shotgun involves cycling the rounds through the chamber one at a time, after poking at a release dingus for each shell. Which could be a PITA.
If he were *loading* it, I'd imagine he'd drop in a shell, hit the release, rotate the shotgun to a different position, and feed the rounds into the magazine properly, a process that is quick and easy.
I do not like shotguns that you have to fiddle with to unload, I've seen too many students in class make "mistakes".
By coincidence, twelve years ago almost to the day, I posted my Trump/Beretta story here on these forums:
https://www.simplelivingforum.net/showthread.php?6338-The-Donald&highlight=beretta
This spring, I was in The Secret Room on the 3rd floor of the Beretta salon in NYC, trying to get a word in edgewise about a shotgun I wanted built for me, while my daughter was busily discussing the history of the company with their top gunsmith in North America for her history class. They were having a great time.
His assistant came into The Room, telling him "Trump is on the phone again, he wants to know when he can have his gun back..." The gunsmith responded "Can't you see I'm talking to the young lady here, tell him to call back tomorrow sometime..."
I love guys who have their priorities down right.
After they chatted another hour, he turned to me to see about the gun I wanted built, talked me out of the $30k custom one, and found an off-the-rack $2k one they make that would work *better* for my needs with a mere $200 of modifications.
Customer service.
Personally I was more fascinated by trump’s obsession with Arnold Palmer’s penis size. His obsession with Kamala’s long ago job at Mickey D’s seems tired at this point.
frugal-one
10-21-24, 9:38pm
Personally I was more fascinated by trump’s obsession with Arnold Palmer’s penis size. His obsession with Kamala’s long ago job at Mickey D’s seems tired at this point.
And, to think, this obscene individual is a possibility for president? No class, low life….
And, to think, this obscene individual is a possibility for president? No class, low life….
To be fair he’s been commenting about dick sizes for eight years now and his supporters seem to love it. They apparently like it when their preferred candidate sinks to their level of discourse.
So, people have been posting reviews of McDonald’s now that trump works there. My favorite: ‘I tried to order an Arnold Palmer but the crusty old man at the counter told me he didn’t think I could handle it.’
The real fascinating thing is that loser trump wants to use the military to go after ‘the enemy within’ including Adam Schiff, Nancy pelosi and the democrats. But republicans keep pretending that what he said isn’t what he said. It’s sad and pathetic that only people like Liz Cheney show that the Republican Party might still be capable of honor. If Mike Johnson and Lindsay graham are truly where the Republican Party is at this point then the whole party deserves to die an ugly ugly death. And the world will be a better place once that has happened.
iris lilies
10-22-24, 10:54pm
So, people have been posting reviews of McDonald’s now that trump works there. My favorite: ‘I tried to order an Arnold Palmer but the crusty old man at the counter told me he didn’t think I could handle it.’
I’m sorry you were missing the funny memes about Trump’s stint at McDonald’s.
Today's NYT had an article about his many threats to silence the media that has criticized him, including jail and suspension of licensing. Since he's basically a chronic liar, it's hard to tell what he will actually do, but I'd not put anything beyond him.
I wonder if anyone will legally call out Elon on the millions he's giving away to voters.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ced0d1g5zyno
iris lilies
10-23-24, 8:59am
Today's NYT had an article about his many threats to silence the media that has criticized him, including jail and suspension of licensing. Since he's basically a chronic liar, it's hard to tell what he will actually do, but I'd not put anything beyond him.
I wonder if anyone will legally call out Elon on the millions he's giving away to voters.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ced0d1g5zyno
where can I get some of Elon’s millions?
where can I get some of Elon’s millions?
You might have to move.
...petition created by America PAC encourages voters in six swing states - Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and North Carolina - to sign a "petition in favour of free speech and the right to bear arms".
Those who refer another voter who signs up are promised a sum of $47 (£36) each.
Higher sums of $100 for signing or referring are offered in Pennsylvania, the battleground state that both the Trump and Harris campaigns believe could potentially decide the race's eventual victor.
America PAC says those who sign the petition are signalling their support for the First and Second amendments of the US Constitution.
Each day until polling day on 5 November, a $1m prize will be randomly awarded to any signatory in one of the seven swing states.
"It is illegal to give out money on the condition that recipients register as voters," Mr Noti told the BBC.
Constitutional law professor Jeremy Paul, with Northeastern University School of Law, said in an email to the BBC that Mr Musk is taking advantage of a legal loophole.
He said that, while there is an argument that the offer could be illegal, it is “targeted and designed to get around what’s supposed to be the law" and he believes the case would be difficult to make in court.
iris lilies
10-23-24, 10:43am
Thank you for that summary.
I am glad to not be in a swing state where my vote would be far more important than it will be here. But I would have no problem signing on to support for 1st and 2nd amendments empty tho that act might be.
I generally avoid online petitions because they are useless.
Is Elon Musk the new designated supervillain?
Are the Koch brothers on sabbatical?
Don’t these people realize the only acceptable way to purchase votes is with taxpayer money?
iris lilies
10-23-24, 11:00am
Is Elon Musk the new designated supervillain?
Are the Koch brothers on sabbatical?
Don’t these people realize the only acceptable way to purchase votes is with taxpayer money?
Elon does seem to be a talking point these days.
and haha to purchasing votes w/taxpayer dollars. Sad it is true.
Thank you for that summary.
I am glad to not be in a swing state where my vote would be far more important than it will be here. But I would have no problem signing on to support for 1st and 2nd amendments empty tho that act might be.
I generally avoid online petitions because they are useless.
The issue isn't about signing the petition, but that you have to be a registered voter to sign it. So, as the legal pundits say, it's paying at least some people to register in a round about way. And that is most likely the intention of the reward and has little to do with the petition and is basically illegal but a loop-hole in it's manipulation. That's my take anyway.
People can say poor Elon is being picked on, but it's just the way the law is. I'm sure his lawyers get paid more than government prosecutors, so he's probably in the right.
iris lilies
10-23-24, 11:10am
The issue isn't about signing the petition, but that you have to be a registered voter to sign it. So, as the legal pundits say, it's paying at least some people to register in a round about way. And that is most likely the intention of the reward and has little to do with the petition and is basically illegal but a loop-hole in it's manipulation. That's my take anyway.
People can say poor Elon is being picked on, but it's just the way the law is. I'm sure his lawyers get paid more than government prosecutors, so he's probably in the right.
to be clear, I would never say “poor Elon.”
to be clear, I would never say “poor Elon.”
Depending on literal or figurative...
He might have had one too many psychedelic trips.
I've been fortunate that nobody close to me has descended into dementia. It's been interesting watching it happen to trump in such a public fashion and so rapidly. It's fascinating to hear him talk about giant Canadian faucets, how Kamala Harris will ban cows, and to see him auditioning for his next career as a bad wedding DJ for 39 minutes at one of his rallies. Even more fascinating is that people still think he's remotely acceptable as a potential president.
Speaking of acceptable candidates, I saw my first Chase Oliver campaign ad on YouTube. First one I’ve seen this cycle that didn’t make me want to bathe in hydrogen peroxide.
I've been fortunate that nobody close to me has descended into dementia. It's been interesting watching it happen to trump in such a public fashion and so rapidly. It's fascinating to hear him talk about giant Canadian faucets, how Kamala Harris will ban cows, and to see him auditioning for his next career as a bad wedding DJ for 39 minutes at one of his rallies. Even more fascinating is that people still think he's remotely acceptable as a potential president.
I'm apparently not up to speed on Canadian faucets and cow banning but I notice that you've mentioned the 39 minutes of song and dance several times now without adding necessary context. My understanding is that there were two separate medical emergencies in the audience and the rally was paused while they were being dealt with. I'm curious what you would have done in that situation.
Trump is constantly threatening, prevaricating and glowering. But what really freaks out his opposition is when he seems to be having fun.
I'm apparently not up to speed on Canadian faucets and cow banning but I notice that you've mentioned the 39 minutes of song and dance several times now without adding necessary context. My understanding is that there were two separate medical emergencies in the audience and the rally was paused while they were being dealt with. I'm curious what you would have done in that situation.
You’re probably not up to speed on the fact that he wishes ‘his’ generals were more like hitler’s.
If the medical emergencies were so disruptive that the rally couldn’t continue then having a dance party also seems inappropriate.
Trump is constantly threatening, prevaricating and glowering. But what really freaks out his opposition is when he seems to be having fun.
No. What really freaks us out is that 40% of the voting population considers him not just remotely suitable for the presidency but absolutely the best choice.
No. What really freaks us out is that 40% of the voting population considers him not just remotely suitable for the presidency but absolutely the best choice.
Yeah. Don’t they realize he’ll destroy democracy forever like he did last time?
Democracy survived in spite of Trump rather than because of him, and there was a time when the peaceful transfer of power granted by the Constitution was questionable.
I wonder what parents tell their children about lying to get your way. So one day if you're good at it you might get to be president or V.P. or own a hotel and golf course chain?
I see where his minions are reviving the old voting machine hoaxes. I guess the Giuliani lesson wasn't good enough. I see where his former chief of staff, John Kelly, has referred to Trump as a fascist. I think of him more as an organized crime boss. I wonder how many of his former inner circle have been convicted of crimes.
Oh, I would certainly agree that Trump is a lying buffoon completely untethered to any discernible code of honor. But I find the protean politics of his main opponent equally untrustworthy. The two major parties seem to me to have matched each other patty for patty in the BS category.
But is Trump “the Hitler-y-est Hitler who ever Hitlered”? That’s demanding a lot from such a lazy and undisciplined guy.
Oh, I would certainly agree that Trump is a lying buffoon completely untethered to any discernible code of honor. But I find the protean politics of his main opponent equally untrustworthy. The two major parties seem to me to have matched each other patty for patty in the BS category.
But is Trump “the Hitler-y-est Hitler who ever Hitlered”? That’s demanding a lot from such a lazy and undisciplined guy.
So what you're saying is that you think that there's no possibility that it actually matters who becomes president if neither of the candidates have policy positions you prefer? I can't imagine taking such a blase approach to life. Sure, the head of the republican party is a relatively incompetent sore loser surrounded by other losers and wack jobs who is rapidly losing his marbles. But they aren't all complete idiots. At this point all the lawyers that have destroyed their careers and futures in service to him have nothing to lose and everything to gain if they somehow succeed in overthrowing the government. They will do their damnedest to try and succeed this time around and they surely learned at least a few lessons during their failed attempt last time.
Yeah. Don’t they realize he’ll destroy democracy forever like he did last time?
They realize that if he had succeeded that's exactly what he would have accomplished and they are all in favor since he claims to hate all the right people which matters more than America itself. Sad and pathetic the whole lot of them. As with most of us their ancestors once immigrated here too. Perhaps the country would be in a better place if we'd shut the damn door the day before those ancestors arrived.
frugal-one
10-23-24, 11:28pm
I've been fortunate that nobody close to me has descended into dementia. It's been interesting watching it happen to trump in such a public fashion and so rapidly. It's fascinating to hear him talk about giant Canadian faucets, how Kamala Harris will ban cows, and to see him auditioning for his next career as a bad wedding DJ for 39 minutes at one of his rallies. Even more fascinating is that people still think he's remotely acceptable as a potential president.
Not a word I would use describe it…
frugal-one
10-23-24, 11:31pm
Yeah. Don’t they realize he’ll destroy democracy forever like he did last time?
He has deteriorated even more so and his rhetoric become more fascist. Not surprising that you continue to defend it.
The sexual abuse conviction really bothers me, and I don't understand how people can vote for him.
He has deteriorated even more so and his rhetoric become more fascist. Not surprising that you continue to defend it.
You keep saying that, but just because I don’t buy into your overwrought rhetoric doesn’t mean I’m defending the man.
frugal-one
10-24-24, 5:19pm
Sure? That is not how it looks! You constantly stick up for him.
Sure? That is not how it looks! You constantly stick up for him.
I have always taken the position that Trump is unfit to be president. I haven’t been able to vote for a Republican for that office since Mitt Romney. What seems to trouble you is that I haven’t joined you in the leap into perfervid fascist fantasy. In your mind, that amounts to “sticking up for him”.
I don’t have to accept any alternative to Trump as a savior who has earned my unquestioning support.
I believe our constitutional order is robust enough to survive either Trump’s populist bluster or Harris’s endless pandering. I don’t think the Republic will fall either way. There is no need for the politics of panic.
I think the Reductio Ad Hitlerum argument has become so overused over the years that it’s become a sort of reflex action of lazy minds that cheapens and demeans our politics.
I don’t agree that one side’s bad faith justifies equal bad faith on the other. Nor do I accept the with-us-or-against-us mentality as worthy of a rational adult.
Despite what you seem to think, it’s possible to object to both Trump and his more hysterical detractors.
https://www.simplelivingforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=223&d=1299877856
iris lilies
10-25-24, 12:16pm
I have always taken the position that Trump is unfit to be president. I haven’t been able to vote for a Republican for that office since Mitt Romney. What seems to trouble you is that I haven’t joined you in the leap into perfervid fascist fantasy. In your mind, that amounts to “sticking up for him”.
I don’t have to accept any alternative to Trump as a savior who has earned my unquestioning support.
I believe our constitutional order is robust enough to survive either Trump’s populist bluster or Harris’s endless pandering. I don’t think the Republic will fall either way. There is no need for the politics of panic.
I think the Reductio Ad Hitlerum argument has become so overused over the years that it’s become a sort of reflex action of lazy minds that cheapens and demeans our politics.
I don’t agree that one side’s bad faith justifies equal bad faith on the other. Nor do I accept the with-us-or-against-us mentality as worthy of a rational adult.
Despite what you seem to think, it’s possible to object to both Trump and his more hysterical detractors.
A nicely reasoned response, even when undeserved.
littlebittybobby
10-25-24, 1:33pm
okay----in re: Trump working at Mickey Dees(who need all the help they can get, btw): It got publicity, so it served its' purpose. But yeah---it's no dumber than ol' Jimmah Cahtah posing for a photo op on a habitat fo' po' fokes home contruction site. I hafta giggle when I see the elderly demmacrat icon using a saw.(see photo) Yup. Now, that's unrealistic. So yeah---let that put it in perspective. See? Hope thatt helps you kids some. Thankk Mee.60936094
iris lilies
10-25-24, 3:01pm
.l..post deleted…
Never mind, I was WRONG (thank god.)
Sometimes it happens. ;)
frugal-one
10-25-24, 3:49pm
You keep saying that, but just because I don’t buy into your overwrought rhetoric doesn’t mean I’m defending the man.
You CONSTANTLY defend him. Obviously, you have a blind spot.
iris lilies
10-25-24, 3:54pm
You CONSTANTLY defend him. Obviously, you have a blind spot.
the disconnect between your interpretation of words and my interpretation is extreme.
You CONSTANTLY defend him.
Am I missing something? I don't recall LDAHL ever defending Trump. Perhaps it's his reluctance to spew vitriol against all the "right" people that makes you think so?
Obviously, you have a blind spot.
If I were to approach you from your right, would you see me?
Obviously, you have a blind spot.
That must be where all those Nazis are hiding.
You CONSTANTLY defend him. Obviously, you have a blind spot.
To be fair ldahl doesn’t actually defend him. He just states that he believes that NO MATTER WHAT our constitutional form of government will survive just fine regardless of who is president. It’s an absurd belief but he’s stuck with it as one of his core beliefs for as long as he’s been posting here.
frugal-one
10-26-24, 11:05am
To be fair ldahl doesn’t actually defend him. He just states that he believes that NO MATTER WHAT our constitutional form of government will survive just fine regardless of who is president. It’s an absurd belief but he’s stuck with it as one of his core beliefs for as long as he’s been posting here.
I take to mean he condones the actions since he states it will not matter… that in itself is defending IMO.
To be fair ldahl doesn’t actually defend him. He just states that he believes that NO MATTER WHAT our constitutional form of government will survive just fine regardless of who is president. It’s an absurd belief but he’s stuck with it as one of his core beliefs for as long as he’s been posting here.
You’re right. I cling to the absurd belief that we are not in fact one vote away from an American Reich. We survived Lincoln suspending habeas corpus. We survived Wilson cracking down on free speech to an extent beyond the dreams of the Disinformation Governance Board. We survived FDR trying to pack the SCOTUS when it stood in the way of some of his more egregious power grabs. We even survived him putting people into camps the way Rachel Maddow claims to fear. We can survive a pair of twits like Trump and Harris.
Democrats have been calling Republicans fascists almost as long as there have been fascists. I, like many others, have discounted that accusation based on decades of wolf-crying.
If America falls, it won’t be to some braying buffoon. It will be chipped away bit by bit by compassionate authoritarians who believe they know our interests better than we do. Who believe they must protect us from disinformation and dangerous ideas. Who feel it their duty to enforce their concepts of “equity” on the unenlightened masses.
I’d be curious if someone has studied the differences between the German constitution 100ish years ago and the American constitution as it stands today. What weaknesses in the German one allowed hitler to do his thing and what protections does ours have to prevent trump from doing the same thing? Especially considering the recent rewriting of it to make the president a king. We all know that given the chance trump will simply say ‘as an official act as commander in chief I order the military to attack the following enemies…’
I am willing to take his former Chief of Staff's opinion on him as fact:
Who Is John Kelly, the General Calling Trump a Hitler-Praising Fascist? (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/who-is-john-kelly-the-general-calling-trump-a-hitler-praising-fascist/ar-AA1sMq2p?ocid=BingNewsSerp)
but that's because I trust the Marines.
See, here's why some of us compare him to Hitler:
'Is that a threat?' Trump stuns observers with comment about Harris voter 'getting hurt' - Raw Story (https://www.rawstory.com/trump-violence-harris-voter-get-hurt-rally/?cx_testId=4&cx_testVariant=cx_undefined&cx_artPos=2&cx_experienceId=EXC93HV4HK4I&cx_experienceActionId=showRecommendationsJ2A0SJUMQ X4T24#cxrecs_s)
or this:
Trump suggests a protester may get 'the hell knocked out of her' by her parents | KTVU FOX 2 (https://www.ktvu.com/news/trump-suggests-protester-may-get-the-hell-knocked-out-her-her-parents)
not to mention as a woman, I find this kind of violence against women both familiar and sad.
I’d be curious if someone has studied the differences between the German constitution 100ish years ago and the American constitution as it stands today. What weaknesses in the German one allowed hitler to do his thing and what protections does ours have to prevent trump from doing the same thing? Especially considering the recent rewriting of it to make the president a king. We all know that given the chance trump will simply say ‘as an official act as commander in chief I order the military to attack the following enemies…’
If Trump is elected, and say six months from now, the 29th Infantry Division hasn’t been deployed to crush opposition and send dissidents to internment camps, would you be willing to admit my absurd belief was correct?
And here is attempting to insult someone who is gay by giving them a female-gendered first name:
Trump refers to CNN's Anderson Cooper by a woman's first name | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/trump-anderson-cooper-campaign-2867efc6bff01edbf493cb65582f0ed8)
I don't understand people who don't see this guy a a massive threat to human decency.
I’d be curious if someone has studied the differences between the German constitution 100ish years ago and the American constitution as it stands today. What weaknesses in the German one allowed hitler to do his thing and what protections does ours have to prevent trump from doing the same thing? Especially considering the recent rewriting of it to make the president a king. We all know that given the chance trump will simply say ‘as an official act as commander in chief I order the military to attack the following enemies…’
Jp!, you might find this interesting reading:
March 1933 German federal election - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election)
seems like there is a playbook there for a certain demagogue.
Clearly, we are past the persuasion phase of the campaign and into the whip-up-the-base phase. Trump hold a raucous, nonsense-laden event at Madison Square Garden, promising “a new golden age”. Elon Musk shows up to proclaim himself “dark gothic MAGA”.
The Harris campaign seems to have abandoned the “joy” shtick and returned to traditional fear mongering. Hillary Clinton sees jackboots in our future should the voters choose deplorably. We haven’t seen this many references to fascism in the media since VE Day.
The major polls all seem within the margin of error, and both houses of Congress seem to be in play. God help us all
ToomuchStuff
10-28-24, 12:38pm
If Trump is elected, and say six months from now, the 29th Infantry Division hasn’t been deployed to crush opposition and send dissidents to internment camps, would you be willing to admit my absurd belief was correct?
If he does, won't it be because the democrats passed the law that allows the military to be used on the civilian population, eliminating posse comitatus?
And here is attempting to insult someone who is gay by giving them a female-gendered first name:
Trump refers to CNN's Anderson Cooper by a woman's first name | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/trump-anderson-cooper-campaign-2867efc6bff01edbf493cb65582f0ed8)
I don't understand people who don't see this guy a a massive threat to human decency.
Name calling is a massive threat, then we better shut down all schools, EVERYWHERE!!!!!
If Trump is elected, and say six months from now, the 29th Infantry Division hasn’t been deployed to crush opposition and send dissidents to internment camps, would you be willing to admit my absurd belief was correct?
And if he does will you admit to being a sad and overly trusting apologist for the founder's inability to imagine a time when a hitler-wannabe convicted felon who had already once made a serious attempt to overthrow the government managed to become president a second time and destroyed the country?
Clearly, we are past the persuasion phase of the campaign and into the whip-up-the-base phase. Trump hold a raucous, nonsense-laden event at Madison Square Garden, promising “a new golden age”. Elon Musk shows up to proclaim himself “dark gothic MAGA”.
Indeed. Trump certainly understands who the base voters of the republican party are. A bunch of vile racist, xenophobic, misogynistic thugs who long for the days when straight white men ran everything and everyone else was meekly subservient at best or completely silenced into submission at worst. Hillary Clinton had it right when she described them as a basket of deplorables. Anyone who can still vote for the guy after yesterday's freak show is very much telling us who THEY are and it's not a good look for them.
And if he does will you admit to being a sad and overly trusting apologist for the founder's inability to imagine a time when a hitler-wannabe convicted felon who had already once made a serious attempt to overthrow the government managed to become president a second time and destroyed the country?
Yes.
Yes.
I will post an admission if the concentration camp I’m assigned to has WiFi.
I will post an admission if the concentration camp I’m assigned to has WiFi.
I don't see a world where you are the one they put in the concentration camp.
iris lilies
10-28-24, 4:35pm
I don't see a world where you are the one they put in the concentration camp.
Having openly declared he hasn’t voted for Trump may not be the pass you think it is.
rosarugosa
10-29-24, 6:41am
I know some here poke fun at the Hitler comparisons as being overwrought hysteria, but I just finished a non-fiction book on Auschwitz, and I find Trump's references to "the enemy within" especially chilling.
You’re right. I cling to the absurd belief that we are not in fact one vote away from an American Reich. We survived Lincoln suspending habeas corpus. We survived Wilson cracking down on free speech to an extent beyond the dreams of the Disinformation Governance Board. We survived FDR trying to pack the SCOTUS when it stood in the way of some of his more egregious power grabs. We even survived him putting people into camps the way Rachel Maddow claims to fear. We can survive a pair of twits like Trump and Harris.
Democrats have been calling Republicans fascists almost as long as there have been fascists. I, like many others, have discounted that accusation based on decades of wolf-crying.
If America falls, it won’t be to some braying buffoon. It will be chipped away bit by bit by compassionate authoritarians who believe they know our interests better than we do. Who believe they must protect us from disinformation and dangerous ideas. Who feel it their duty to enforce their concepts of “equity” on the unenlightened masses.
Thirteen former Trump officials have signed a letter supporting Gen. Kelly's report of hearing Trump "on multiple occasions praising Adolph Hitler."
“We applaud General Kelly for highlighting in stark details the danger of a second Trump term. Like General Kelly, we did not take the decision to come forward lightly,” the letter said. “We are all lifelong Republicans who served our country. However, there are moments in history where it becomes necessary to put country over party. This is one of those moments.”
13 former Trump administration officials sign open letter backing up John Kelly's criticism of Trump (nbcnews.com) (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/13-former-trump-administration-officials-sign-open-letter-backing-john-rcna177227)
So no, it's not hysteria on the left, as has been characterized in this thread.
iris lilies
10-29-24, 10:32am
I've been fortunate that nobody close to me has descended into dementia. It's been interesting watching it happen to trump in such a public fashion and so rapidly. It's fascinating to hear him talk about giant Canadian faucets, how Kamala Harris will ban cows, and to see him auditioning for his next career as a bad wedding DJ for 39 minutes at one of his rallies. Even more fascinating is that people still think he's remotely acceptable as a potential president.
What is fascinating is we can NOW talk about presidential candidates and dementia, linking the two concepts.
Prior to July 2024 we weren’t allowed to talk about that. I guess that’s a new talking point.
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg102624dAPC-800x0.jpg
iris lilies
10-29-24, 1:14pm
https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/cartoons/stg102624dAPC-800x0.jpg
outright Nazis at the Trump rally:
6100
littlebittybobby
10-29-24, 1:39pm
okay----but jah---were they driving der mercedes's too? But yeah---all of the invoking Hillter to "win" arguments is beyond ree-diculous. I've done my research, and it turns out that the main reason he epitomizes "evil" is that he lost a war
(but put up a helluva fight)against the English-speakers(who've conquered every continent on the planet, sometimes twice) and those Commies. That apparently, makes his 12-year regime THE most evil ever, for the time being. See? Anyway---my fanaticrat study subjects are VERY moody & hypersensitive, at present. Take my advice--don't say anything(which equals everything)to disturb them, because they are already disturbed enough; they realize that this election may not turn out the way they planned. See? Hope that helpps you kids some.
What is fascinating is we can NOW talk about presidential candidates and dementia, linking the two concepts.
Prior to July 2024 we weren’t allowed to talk about that. I guess that’s a new talking point.
Weird that you say that since the MsM was absolutely obsessed with presidential candidates and dementia until July. Since then ? Not so much even though the one candidate that actually has dementia is the only one still in the race.
. Trump hold a raucous, nonsense-laden event at Madison Square Garden, promising “a new golden age”.
With your ability to normalize trump’s reboot of the 1939 Madison Square Garden nazi rally that happened Sunday you have the skills necessary to be a headline writer at the maga NY Times. I wonder if they’re hiring.
With your ability to normalize trump’s reboot of the 1939 Madison Square Garden nazi rally that happened Sunday you have the skills necessary to be a headline writer at the maga NY Times. I wonder if they’re hiring.
If that was a reboot of a 1939 Nazi rally due to location, was yesterday's Harris rally at the Ellipse a reboot of the 1926 Ku Klux Klan rally at the same location?
iris lilies
10-30-24, 8:36am
Weird that you say that since the MsM was absolutely obsessed with presidential candidates and dementia until July. Since then ? Not so much even though the one candidate that actually has dementia is the only one still in the race.
I will have to take your word for it that mainstream media was obsessed with presidents and dementia prior to July. I don’t watch TV news so….
But. I really doubt MSNBC and CNN was doing serious in-depth reporting of Biden’s brain function. NO ONE was doing that otherwise the cover-up of Biden’s functionality would not have lasted. If you mean there were numerous stories reassuring us that Biden is fine just fine do not worry he is hale and hearty — yes some of those came through to me. But that’s not serious reporting, investigative reporting, is it? That is being a mouthpiece of the White House.
With your ability to normalize trump’s reboot of the 1939 Madison Square Garden nazi rally that happened Sunday you have the skills necessary to be a headline writer at the maga NY Times. I wonder if they’re hiring.
Like this headline?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/27/us/trump-msg-rally.html
If you think the New York Times is MAGA, you’re so far down the rabbit hole there may be no coming back.
I will have to take your word for it that mainstream media was obsessed with presidents and dementia prior to July. I don’t watch TV news so….
But. I really doubt MSNBC and CNN was doing serious in-depth reporting of Biden’s brain function. NO ONE was doing that otherwise the cover-up of Biden’s functionality would not have lasted. If you mean there were numerous stories reassuring us that Biden fine just fine, yes some of those came through to me. But that’s not serious reporting, investigative reporting, is it? That is being a mouthpiece of the White House.
You have only to look at the way the media scrambled to “explain” the President’s garbage gaffe to see the truth in what you say.
catherine
10-30-24, 12:24pm
I just love how Stephen Colbert handled his assessment of the rally, and more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7jvlJvTUZY
frugal-one
10-30-24, 2:29pm
If that was a reboot of a 1939 Nazi rally due to location, was yesterday's Harris rally at the Ellipse a reboot of the 1926 Ku Klux Klan rally at the same location?
No. It was trying to erase the negative coup attempt image at that location Jan 6.
frugal-one
10-30-24, 2:32pm
I will have to take your word for it that mainstream media was obsessed with presidents and dementia prior to July. I don’t watch TV news so….
But. I really doubt MSNBC and CNN was doing serious in-depth reporting of Biden’s brain function. NO ONE was doing that otherwise the cover-up of Biden’s functionality would not have lasted. If you mean there were numerous stories reassuring us that Biden is fine just fine do not worry he is hale and hearty — yes some of those came through to me. But that’s not serious reporting, investigative reporting, is it? That is being a mouthpiece of the White House.
I constantly see Joe Biden on a number of news/local stations. He appears hale and hearty!
catherine
10-30-24, 2:40pm
Well, Joe blew it today. Even I would have checked myself before posting what he posted.
Well, Joe blew it today. Even I would have checked myself before posting what he posted.
Yeah. When I say dumb things, I try not to draw attention to them in an attempt at “clarification”.
If that was a reboot of a 1939 Nazi rally due to location, was yesterday's Harris rally at the Ellipse a reboot of the 1926 Ku Klux Klan rally at the same location?
If you think location is the o ly thing making it a reboot you clearly weren’t paying attention.
Well, Joe blew it today. Even I would have checked myself before posting what he posted.
It’s being misreported. He was calling the ‘comic garbage, not trump’s supporters. ‘The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporter’s -his-his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American.’
Although I do find it hilarious that snowflake Vance, just two days after telling democrats to get a thicker skin, is now a whiny little bitch when he thinks his group of people are being called garbage.
If you think location is the o ly thing making it a reboot you clearly weren’t paying attention.
You're right. Since I'm not obsessed with Trump or anyone else who might be tied to him I've dedicated exactly zero attention to his rallies, interviews or other media events. I depend on you to keep me mis-informed.
It’s being misreported.
Really? I've read some of the reporting about it and the effort being made to mitigate, but I also saw unedited video of his remarks. It appears to me that one of those things is not like the other.
frugal-one
10-30-24, 5:31pm
Really? I've read some of the reporting about it and the effort being made to mitigate, but I also saw unedited video of his remarks. It appears to me that one of those things is not like the other.
Ha! Read post 85!
catherine
10-30-24, 5:33pm
The text was this: “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American. It’s totally contrary to everything we’ve done, everything we’ve been.”
On CNN they said people are calling it "apostrophe-gate" because the text was missing an apostrophe, and if it beenn there, it would have been clear that he meant the comedian. However, the missing apostrophe made all the difference. He only needed to re-read before posting.
Ha! Read post 85!
In posts 85 I was commenting on Trump. The post you're responding to was about Biden. To further clarify for you, I have not seen any portion of the Trump rally JP1 has been commenting on, but I did see the 20 second video of Biden.
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-calls-on-deplorable-garbage-nazis-to-tone-down-the-rhetoric
Hope this clears up the whole misunderstanding.
iris lilies
10-30-24, 8:04pm
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-calls-on-deplorable-garbage-nazis-to-tone-down-the-rhetoric
Hope this clears up the whole misunderstanding.
Fox is reporting Trump is visiting your state riding in a garbage truck, an apparent reference to the Biden comment today.
sometimes Donald is funny.
He told Dave Ramsay, and I’m paraphrasing here, “I’m going back to Butler, Pennsylvania (the scene of the attempted assassination) and I’m going to start my speech… ‘as I was saying…’. “
see, I think that’s funny. That doesn’t mean I’m voting for Trump but sometimes he is hilarious .
catherine
10-30-24, 8:22pm
Fox is reporting Trump is visiting your state riding in a garbage truck, an apparent reference to the Biden comment today.
sometimes Donald is funny.
He told Dave Ramsay, and I’m paraphrasing here, “I’m going back to Butler, Pennsylvania (the scene of the attempted assassination) and I’m going to start my speech… ‘as I was saying…’. “
see, I think that’s funny. That doesn’t mean I’m voting for Trump but sometimes he is hilarious .
That is funny. He is a talented man, to be sure, in many ways. Just not in the ways that make him a desirable leader of the free world.
Fox is reporting Trump is visiting your state riding in a garbage truck, an apparent reference to the Biden comment today.
sometimes Donald is funny.
He told Dave Ramsay, and I’m paraphrasing here, “I’m going back to Butler, Pennsylvania (the scene of the attempted assassination) and I’m going to start my speech… ‘as I was saying…’. “
see, I think that’s funny. That doesn’t mean I’m voting for Trump but sometimes he is hilarious .
Yeah. Saw video of him trash talking in Green Bay.
In posts 85 I was commenting on Trump. The post you're responding to was about Biden. To further clarify for you, I have not seen any portion of the Trump rally JP1 has been commenting on, but I did see the 20 second video of Biden.
I guess that means you didn't see what shitbag tucker carlson had to say about Kamala at sunday's Nazi-fest. Or KaMala as the racist losers mispronounce her name. By all means continue to be ignorant about the racist thug at the head of your party's presidential ticket and continue to have a freakout over a fake issue with one thing that the outgoing president who isn't running for reelection said.
By all means continue to be ignorant about the racist thug at the head of your party's presidential ticket and continue to have a freakout over a fake issue with one thing that the outgoing president who isn't running for reelection said.
No freakout here, just commenting on what I saw and heard Biden say as opposed to the version you and the Democratic Damage Control Team reported.
iris lilies
10-31-24, 10:11am
No freakout here, just commenting on what I saw and heard Biden say as opposed to the version you and the Democratic Damage Control Team reported.
I haven’t even figured out where the apostrophe was supposed to go. But I’m tired of this issue so I’m moving on.
I haven’t even figured out where the apostrophe was supposed to go. But I’m tired of this issue so I’m moving on.
This country needs more people like you.
littlebittybobby
10-31-24, 5:25pm
okay---laughing like the vice-hyena ahaahahahaahaahaahaahahaha at you kidses' comments. Thankk mee.
catherine
10-31-24, 7:22pm
okay---laughing like the vice-hyena ahaahahahaahaahaahaahahaha at you kidses' comments. Thankk mee.
At least someone knows how to laugh. I've actually never heard Trump laugh. That alone makes me suspicious of him.
At least someone knows how to laugh. I've actually never heard Trump laugh. That alone makes me suspicious of him.
I have. It’s scary.
A friend sent me a photo from his phone of a local dressed in what looked like black trash bags with the cardboard sign, “will work for tump”. The homeless could be getting desperate, although it’s probably just Halloween.
Seeing trump in a trump branded trash truck reminded me of Dukakis in a tank. Although I hope he’s talked to a doc about his trouble opening the garbage truck door.
littlebittybobby
10-31-24, 11:31pm
okay----now you kids have started something with littlebittymee! Yup. Trump is in favor of some stuff, and finds nothing funny about the state of affairs, these days. Nope. And then of course Kamala is in favor of um, laughing like a hyena & flip-flopping on stuff. How do you like that? I win. End of Story. Now, get back in your room. What're you kids doing up so late?
rosarugosa
11-1-24, 5:56am
I'm glad to see Trump trying out some jobs that are better suited to his abilities.
iris lilies
11-1-24, 9:24am
I just love how Stephen Colbert handled his assessment of the rally, and more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7jvlJvTUZY
I watched half of it. A couple giggles, but mainly one long droning shill for Kamala.
I watched half of it. A couple giggles, but mainly one long droning shill for Kamala.
Another good reason to go to bed early. I’m old enough to remember when Colbert was funny. Now he just fawns on Democratic politicians and repeats memes on command.
This whole campaign has largely been trolling and
countertrolling. Harris tries showing up Trump as a plutocrat by talking about her hardscrabble “middle class” upbringing by a couple of Berkeley professors. Trump mocks her McDonald’s claim from a drive through window. Garbage insults result in a garbage truck stunt. Late night TV becomes a humorless wasteland. It’s all so depressing.
I see that the latest Republican talking point is that their presidential candidate thinks at least one of his political enemies should be brought before a firing squad. The sad part is Republican politicians refusing to denounce this. They really need to lose big tuesday. There’s not a decent human among the whole sad group.
iris lilies
11-1-24, 4:24pm
I see that the latest Republican talking point is that their presidential candidate thinks at least one of his political enemies should be brought before a firing squad. The sad part is Republican politicians refusing to denounce this. They really need to lose big tuesday. There’s not a decent human among the whole sad group.
oh JP, I love you. I really do. I love how predictable you are! a man we can count on.
Less than 10 minutes ago as I was riding in the car with DH he mentioned today’s anti-Trump talking point is to put Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad. Apparently that’s not exactly what Donald said, but far be it from me to look into The real quote because it’s all too stupid, but apparently it had something to do with convincing Cheney to change her mind from being a Warhawk to something else.
oh JP, I love you. I really do. I love how predictable you are! a man we can count on.
Less than 10 minutes ago as I was riding in the car with DH he mentioned today’s anti-Trump talking point is to put Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad. Apparently that’s not what Donald said, but for for me to look into The real quote because it’s all too stupid, but apparently had something to do with with Cheney changing her mind from being a Warhawk to something else.
So Trump makes some deliberately ambiguous remarks accusing Cheney of being a chickenhawk, knowing of the freakout he will trigger on the left. They rise to the bait in predictable sputtering fashion, and fun ensues.
I see that the latest Republican talking point is that their presidential candidate thinks at least one of his political enemies should be brought before a firing squad. The sad part is Republican politicians refusing to denounce this.
From what I've just read, that's actually a Democratic talking point that Republicans are denouncing because that's not what he said, meant or implied.
Try again JP. Looking forward to tomorrow's misinformation dump.
So Trump makes some deliberately ambiguous remarks accusing Cheney of being a chickenhawk, knowing of the freakout he will trigger on the left. They rise to the bait in predictable sputtering fashion, and fun ensues.
How is recommending nine guns be pointed at her face the equivalent of calling her a chickenhawk? I realize that the republican responses to his more and more unacceptable comments are difficult to come up with but that one doesn't even vaguely pass the smell test. I will be so glad after he loses bigly next week and he can finally crawl back into whatever sad hole he crawled out of eight years ago.
I didn’t interpret it as a death threat, but it was sure in an ambiguous gray area. I’m getting the impression Cheney could top his revenge list and he will sick AG Cannon on her if elected (or maybe even if he isn’t elected?).
I see that a couple of tech guys are taking seriously the idea of "leave no stone unturned." They formed a PAC, raised $100,000 and are advertising on porn sites to people in swing states to encourage people to vote for Harris, or at least not for Trump:
"Trump’s Project 2025 will ban porn. Enjoy while you can."
Their ads have been watched 5m times already and they've only spent $25,000 of the money.
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/01/nx-s1-5168877/2024-election-pac-trump-porn-sites
frugal-one
11-1-24, 9:00pm
How is recommending nine guns be pointed at her face the equivalent of calling her a chickenhawk? I realize that the republican responses to his more and more unacceptable comments are difficult to come up with but that one doesn't even vaguely pass the smell test. I will be so glad after he loses bigly next week and he can finally crawl back into whatever sad hole he crawled out of eight years ago.
He can then be sentenced for his felony conviction(s).
frugal-one
11-1-24, 9:02pm
From what I've just read, that's actually a Democratic talking point that Republicans are denouncing because that's not what he said, meant or implied.
Try again JP. Looking forward to tomorrow's misinformation dump.
Don’t just read about it. Go watch.
frugal-one
11-1-24, 9:04pm
I didn’t interpret it as a death threat, but it was sure in an ambiguous gray area. I’m getting the impression Cheney could top his revenge list and he will sick AG Cannon on her if elected (or maybe even if he isn’t elected?).
Obviously, he is one sick - - -!
From what I've just read, that's actually a Democratic talking point that Republicans are denouncing because that's not what he said, meant or implied.
Try again JP. Looking forward to tomorrow's misinformation dump.
And I’m looking forward to you actually effing watching what he said. Not that you will do that because you prefer to be lazy and uninformed about the party you proudly claim allegiance to. It’s more convenient to pretend denial that way, yes?
iris lilies
11-1-24, 10:35pm
Don’t just read about it. Go watch.
I did watch it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6VHP68I2j2w&pp=ygUTVHJ1bXAgb24gbGl6IGNoZW5leQ%3D%3D
the subject of Liz Cheney comes up when the interviewer asked Donald directly about Liz Cheney. Donald says a couple things about her and then goes into a long tirade about her father, Dick Cheney, the Middle East, blah blah blah, it’s bad to go into the Middle East in war because we come out of it with nothing but debt and dead people blah blah blah…
and then at 7:22 he talks about how Liz Cheney was a Warhawk, a combative person and always wanted to go to war, as a senator always wanted to go to war, she was pro war. So Trump suggests if she were in the heat of battle (“nine barrels pointing at her” ) she wouldn’t be so quick to engage in warfare.
Trump said nothing about assassinating Liz Cheney. He made no death threat or even hinted a death threat against Liz Cheney.
Have YOU watched it?
And I’m looking forward to you actually effing watching what he said. Not that you will do that because you prefer to be lazy and uninformed about the party you proudly claim allegiance to. It’s more convenient to pretend denial that way, yes?
LOL, I'll admit to being a little lazier than I used to be and I'm certainly uninformed about many things although that's usually because many things don't interest me.
In this case though, I believe a lot of the current talk about this particular issue began with Democratic Never Trumper pundit Jonah Goldberg on CNN. He apparently made the firing squad argument, which you repeated, on air but then afterwards realized his mistake and took to X/Twitter to clear it up. https://x.com/JonahDispatch/status/1852408548161929267
In case you don't have the time or inclination to follow that link, here is what he said.
I need to make a statement. This morning on CNN I referred to Trump’s “rifles” quote as him advocating a “firing squad” for Liz Cheney. I was reacting in haste to what were objectively appalling and irresponsible comments that had been framed in the set-up piece in the context of previous statements Trump made about shooting protestors and having generals “executed.” Still, I was wrong to say he was calling for a firing squad execution. After I said that, my co-panelist, Brad Todd made the case that I was wrong. Brad was right and, again, I was wrong. Trump was making – albeit in his customary fashion – a different argument about Cheney’s alleged foreign policy views and the use of force. I let my disgust at Trump’s comments get the better of me as this was the first time I’d heard them.In fact, at the end of the program, having thought about it, I said as much (though I could have been clearer). A fact that has been left out in a lot of the criticism of me since this morning. In other words, I voluntarily conceded the point, unprompted, before any of this subsequent criticism came my way. (You can find it around the 2:20 mark in the video below).I regret the initial comment because it was inaccurate and contributed to the kind of overheated environment Trump thrives on.Trump’s words were bad enough.But it’s worth noting that a lot of the criticism about my inaccuracy is itself somewhat inaccurate, or at least incomplete, given my correction.
iris lilies
11-1-24, 10:53pm
LOL, I'll admit to being a little lazier than I used to be and I'm certainly uninformed about many things although that's usually because many things don't interest me.
In this case though, I believe a lot of the current talk about this particular issue began with paid Democratic pundit Jonah Goldberg on CNN. He apparently made the firing squad argument, which you repeated, on air but then afterwards realized his mistake and took to X/Twitter to clear it up. https://x.com/JonahDispatch/status/1852408548161929267
In case you don't have the time or inclination to follow that link, here is what he said.
I need to make a statement. This morning on CNN I referred to Trump’s “rifles” quote as him advocating a “firing squad” for Liz Cheney. I was reacting in haste to what were objectively appalling and irresponsible comments that had been framed in the set-up piece in the context of previous statements Trump made about shooting protestors and having generals “executed.” Still, I was wrong to say he was calling for a firing squad execution. After I said that, my co-panelist, Brad Todd made the case that I was wrong. Brad was right and, again, I was wrong. Trump was making – albeit in his customary fashion – a different argument about Cheney’s alleged foreign policy views and the use of force. I let my disgust at Trump’s comments get the better of me as this was the first time I’d heard them.In fact, at the end of the program, having thought about it, I said as much (though I could have been clearer). A fact that has been left out in a lot of the criticism of me since this morning. In other words, I voluntarily conceded the point, unprompted, before any of this subsequent criticism came my way. (You can find it around the 2:20 mark in the video below).I regret the initial comment because it was inaccurate and contributed to the kind of overheated environment Trump thrives on.Trump’s words were bad enough.But it’s worth noting that a lot of the criticism about my inaccuracy is itself somewhat inaccurate, or at least incomplete, given my correction.
My only quibble with this summary is—-you are characterizing Jonah Goldberg as a Democratic pundit?
My only quibble with this summary is—-you are characterizing Jonah Goldberg as a Democratic pundit?
Yeah, being my usual lazy, uninformed self I made a mistake. I should have said Never Trumper pundit. I'll correct it in the post. Thanks for pointing it out. :|(
iris lilies
11-1-24, 11:49pm
Yeah, being my usual lazy, uninformed self I made a mistake. I should have said Never Trumper pundit. I'll correct it in the post. Thanks for pointing it out. :|(
ha ha, I just did not want Jonah tarred with that brush!
He certainly does have an impressive ability to create plausible deniability among the republicans that have to defend his indefensible statements. I’ll give him that much.
ha ha, I just did not want Jonah tarred with that brush!
Yeah. More of the dying breed of conservative as it was understood up to about ten years ago. That’s why he calls his podcast “the remnant”. I never miss it.
He certainly does have an impressive ability to create plausible deniability among the republicans that have to defend his indefensible statements. I’ll give him that much.
The sort of hack who tries to walk away from a statement by claiming an apostrophe was missing?
iris lilies
11-2-24, 12:33pm
He certainly does have an impressive ability to create plausible deniability among the republicans that have to defend his indefensible statements. I’ll give him that much.
Oh, give it up JP, Donald did not imply or say anything about assassinating Liz Cheney.
But I’ve got one for ya: Apparently he did simulate oral sex in his Milwaukee Speech. I saw the brief clip, and that sure is what it looked like to me.Now THAT is evidence of losing it.
He certainly does have an impressive ability to create plausible deniability among the republicans that have to defend his indefensible statements. I’ll give him that much.
I recently added the word "sycophant" to my vocabulary.
Oh, give it up JP, Donald did not imply or say anything about assassinating list any.
But I’ve got one for ya: Apparently he did simulate oral sex in his Milwaukee Speech. I saw the brief clip, and that sure is what it looked like to me.Now THAT is evidence of losing it.
I’ll be glad when this is over. It will be nice to go back to being flyover country next week.
I’ll be glad when this is over. It will be nice to go back to being flyover country next week.
I wouldn't bet on that.
Oh, give it up JP, Donald did not imply or say anything about assassinating Liz Cheney.
But I’ve got one for ya: Apparently he did simulate oral sex in his Milwaukee Speech. I saw the brief clip, and that sure is what it looked like to me.Now THAT is evidence of losing it.
And yet just today we learn that in Pennsylvania a Halloween parade included someone dressed as Kamala being dragged in chains behind a truck. Why are you proud to be part of the party that encourages violence against their political enemies? It’s not a good look.
Oh, give it up JP, Donald did not imply or say anything about assassinating Liz Cheney.
But I’ve got one for ya: Apparently he did simulate oral sex in his Milwaukee Speech. I saw the brief clip, and that sure is what it looked like to me.Now THAT is evidence of losing it.
Considering that his loser supporters are now dressing in trash bags I assume that some will start dressing up as dildos. Yay democracy?
And if only Birch Bayh had succeeded in getting the popular vote amendment implemented back in the 70’s we wouldn’t even be having this stupid conversation about the f***ing loser running the Republican Party. .
They may need to rate Trump talks as 18+, warning, mature audiences only. Language, sexual situations, insinuations of violence, etc.
I would not want my kids to see trump as a role model.
They may need to rate Trump talks as 18+, warning, mature audiences only. Language, sexual situations, insinuations of violence, etc.
I would not want my kids to see trump as a role model.
Have you seen the Harris campaign's masturbation video advertisement from a week or so ago?
Have you seen the Harris campaign's masturbation video advertisement from a week or so ago?
No, but I looked it up. That's pretty disgusting too. After being dismayed over the ads for the deodorant that works, "all over", maybe it's all ok these days and I'm just behind the times.
No, but I looked it up. That's pretty disgusting too. After being dismayed over the ads for the deodorant that works, "all over", maybe it's all ok these days and I'm just behind the times.
It’s been a rare day in the last few months where my sensibilities or intelligence haven’t been insulted by campaign ads. No matter how disgusted I get, I can’t seem to keep up.
iris lilies
11-3-24, 5:32pm
Have you seen the Harris campaign's masturbation video advertisement from a week or so ago?
CBS news claims this masterbatory campaign ad is geared to black men. God, could Harris/Walz *BE* any more racially insulting? Which is worse, oral sex pantomime or openly racist sex?
hmmmm, I think will take —-neither category, Alex.
Interesting concept that the Harris campaign is now responsible for outside PAC's advertisements. I thought campaigns and PACs weren't allowed to coordinate efforts?
iris lilies
11-3-24, 5:42pm
Interesting concept that the Harris campaign is now responsible for outside PAC's advertisements. I thought campaigns and PACs weren't allowed to coordinate efforts?
Well then buddy, I guess I will play the same game you always play:
why do you like to associate with Democrats and the party who are so insulting to African Americans? Unless you think it was not Harris-friendly folks who made this ad and if so, cite your source.
Well then buddy, I guess I will play the same game you always play:
why do you like to associate with Democrats and the party who are so insulting to African Americans? Unless you think it was not Harris-friendly folks who made this ad and if so, cite your source.
I’ll be honest. I first thought that “I’m a Man” thing was created by provocateurs to embarrass Harris. Black onanists for Harris strikes me the same way, but clearly the bottom has fallen out of American political discourse, so who knows.
All through this campaign cycle I keep having the thought that Tom Wolfe left us all too soon. I also think Ultralight would have had a lot of fun with some of these threads.
Apparently there are multiple Harris is pro-porn ads floating around. The one google served up to me didn’t have anything to do with black people.
iris lilies
11-4-24, 1:51pm
Apparently there are multiple Harris is pro-porn ads floating around. The one google served up to me didn’t have anything to do with black people.
I’m not sure where CBS News got their talking point about an African-American audience. Perhaps if it came out of Rachel Maddow‘s mouth, it would be believable.
iris lilies
11-5-24, 10:00pm
Apparently there are multiple Harris is pro-porn ads floating around. The one google served up to me didn’t have anything to do with black people.
Ok, for accuracy’s sake, you are probably right here. I think I mixed up a news article CBS did about pro Harris ads targeted to black men with the masterbation/porn ads.
There is a Harris ad that shows a group of women shaming a black men for not having a plan to vote (for Kamala, natch.) So, that isn't the same, it just implies that black men won’t get any nookie unless he votes (for Kamala, natch.)
iris lilies
11-10-24, 3:41pm
I just signed up for a new service called Ground News. It cost $50 a year. I’m curious to see what it will do for me.
It runs new stories and then analyzes news sources that pick up the story, and assigns those news sources categories of “liberal or Neutral or conservative.”
I want to see how it will serve up to me the Democratic talking points of the day. Already showed me a Joe Rogan story about trying to get Kamala Harris on his show is not being picked up by anyone.
I just signed up for a new service called Ground News. It cost $50 a year. I’m curious to see what it will do for me.
My daughter just recently told me about Ground News, although she didn't mention the $50 cost. I told her I'd check it out but haven't yet. Thanks for the reminder.
iris lilies
11-10-24, 5:53pm
My daughter just recently told me about Ground News, although she didn't mention the $50 cost. I told her I'd check it out but haven't yet. Thanks for the reminder.
Ok, I will be interested in what you think of it.
My husband just signed up for that. I have been looking at it every day; the graphics take a bit to get used to. There is a LOT of text and things to click on but I am slowly getting the visual hang of it. I am not going to re-up my WaPo subscription when it comes due in March. I've decided I am going to continue to get what I (nominally) paid for. Every year when my subscription was coming due they'd say it was over $100 per year, so I'd cancel it. Very quickly they would come back with the $30 fee per year so I would take the bait.
Ok, I will be interested in what you think of it.
I looked it over last night but didn't subscribe. I liked that it didn't create content (at least on the free version, not sure on the subscription version) but would take individual published stories and link to their source publishers which are ranked across the gamut from 'lean left' to 'hard right'. It was then interesting to read the various versions of the same subject matter and see how the various publications presented it.
I'll probably spend a little more time exploring before deciding whether or not to invest in it.
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