Pres Musk and VP Trump

[flowerseverywhere]

Well this is very interesting. Musk is acting like he is in charge of the budget and all policy decisions. How do you think this is going to unfold? I can’t wrap my head around it.

[pinkytoe]

I imagine being the richest man in the world inflates one's ego beyond our understanding. I think we are in for a lot of chaos and stalemates in the years ahead.

[Rogar]

I saw a somewhat reputable broadcast saying that technically he could be voted as Speaker of the House. Apparently one doesn't have to be a congressman, but is elected by them. I suspect it's unlikely, but a sobering thought. Further unlikely, that could put him third in order of presidential succession after the VP.

I don't think there's room for both trump's and elon's egos at the top, and one will have to go eventually.

Speaking of egos and negativity I wonder if Bannon will work his way back into trump's circle now that he's out of jail.

[Tradd]

Musk was born in South Africa. I wonder if he could be anywhere in the constitutional succession.

[iris lilies]

I saw a somewhat reputable broadcast saying that technically he could be voted as Speaker of the House. Apparently one doesn't have to be a congressman, but is elected by them. I suspect it's unlikely, but a sobering thought. Further unlikely, that could put him third in order of presidential succession after the VP.

I don't think there's room for both trump's and elon's egos at the top, and one will have to go eventually.

Speaking of egos and negativity I wonder if Bannon will work his way back into trump's circle now that he's out of jail.
I caught a glimpse of Steve Bannon on Megan Kelly’s show where she interviewed him. I could not watch it. I didn’t know he’s back among the living and was not happy to see Megan taking him seriously.

[bae]

Musk was born in South Africa. I wonder if he could be anywhere in the constitutional succession.

Well, the succession includes people who have offices that do not require natural-born citizenship. I presume that when they are running through the succession list, if someone pops up at the top who does not meet the requirements for President, they'd skip to the next eligible person.

[Rogar]

I caught a glimpse of Steve Bannon on Megan Kelly’s show where she interviewed him. I could not watch it. I didn’t know he’s back among the living and was not happy to see Megan taking him seriously.

It's too bad the media gives guys like Bannon some air time to lend to their credibility. I caught a headline somewhere where he was talking about a third term for Trump, which I suspect would be unconstitutional.

[bae]

It's too bad the media gives guys like Bannon some air time to lend to their credibility. I caught a headline somewhere where he was talking about a third term for Trump, which I suspect would be unconstitutional.

It is, unless you change the Constitution. Or do some clever hacks involving Trump being VP, then assuming the presidency. Or some hack involving having the House select him in a contested election.



Twenty-Second Amendment

Section 1:

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

[flowerseverywhere]

Musk was born in South Africa. I wonder if he could be anywhere in the constitutional succession.

Henry Kissinger, born in Germany, was fourth in line of succession when he was Secretary of State. So Musk would qualify under the rules I imagine. I have a very hard time, though, believing Trump will allow anyone to take the spotlight off of him.
but all the chaos and drama probably masks the important issues. For instance Trump said he would rename Denali back to Mt. McKinley. Denali is the Native American name and the people of Alaska voted for it. Such nonsense that will not bring the price of gas and eggs down.

[LDAHL]

So the people who’ve been controlling Biden the last few years are concerned that Musk is controlling Trump?

https://babylonbee.com/news/elon-is-controlling-trump-complain-people-controlling-biden

[iris lilies]

I only wish someone WOULD control Trump.

[catherine]

So the people who’ve been controlling Biden the last few years are concerned that Musk is controlling Trump?

https://babylonbee.com/news/elon-is-controlling-trump-complain-people-controlling-biden

I think that's comparing apples to oranges. I don't even think that's the issue--at least from my POV. In fact, I think if enough people start calling Musk "President Musk" Trump will tell him "You're fired!"

[LDAHL]

I think that's comparing apples to oranges. I don't even think that's the issue--at least from my POV. In fact, I think if enough people start calling Musk "President Musk" Trump will tell him "You're fired!"

It’s hard to imagine two egos of that magnitude occupying the same space without triggering some cataclysmic event.

[frugal-one]

It’s hard to imagine two egos of that magnitude occupying the same space without triggering some cataclysmic event.

The first thing trump (and Musk) want to do is meet with putin. That IS a cataclysmic event IMO. I can’t foresee any good coming of it!

[iris lilies]

The first thing trump (and Musk) want to do is meet with putin. That IS a cataclysmic event IMO. I can’t foresee any good coming of it!
What is wrong with the President of the United States meeting with a major world leader? That’s kinda his job.

[ToomuchStuff]

Well this is very interesting. Musk is acting like he is in charge of the budget and all policy decisions. How do you think this is going to unfold? I can’t wrap my head around it.


Isn't he?

Doge, shouldn't he be looking at things like a cost benefit analysis?

[frugal-one]

What is wrong with the President of the United States meeting with a major world leader? That’s kinda his job.

His statement was it’s the first thing he is going to do. He remarked earlier about Ukraine. My bet he is going to let putin take over. We spend what… billions? and this is the outcome? He probably is getting tips from putin on how to remain in office forever. As you know, he admires putin. I can’t see this meeting as a good thing.

[bae]

As you know, he admires putin. I can’t see this meeting as a good thing.

https://www.rogerebert.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/The-Manchurian-Candidate-1.jpg

[iris lilies]

The first thing trump (and Musk) want to do is meet with putin. That IS a cataclysmic event IMO. I can’t foresee any good coming of it!
Can you tell me exactly what you object to in this quote below from Donald J Trump?

“Assad is gone,” Trump wrote, in an early Sunday morning post on Truth Social. “He has fled his country. His protector, Russia, Russia, Russia, led by Vladimir Putin, was not interested in protecting him any longer. There was no reason for Russia to be there in the first place….”

and


”…“They lost all interest in Syria because of Ukraine, where close to 600,000 Russian soldiers lay wounded or dead, in a war that should never have started, and could go on forever,” …

And

“…Russia and Iran are in a weakened state right now, one because of Ukraine and a bad economy, the other because of Israel and its fighting success. Likewise, Zelenskyy and Ukraine would like to make a deal and stop the madness. They have ridiculously lost 400,000 soldiers, and many more civilians. Thereshould be an immediate ceasefire and negotiations should begin. Too many lives are being so needlessly wasted, too many families destroyed, and if it keeps going, it can turn into something much
bigger, and far worse. I know Vladimir well. This is his time and China can help. The world is waiting.”

full text in link


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-sends-warning-shot-putin-142439255.html

[frugal-one]

I have no desire to wade through truth social. As we’ve seen previously, trump speaks out of both sides of his mouth and is an habitual liar. Nothing he says can be trusted.

[LDAHL]

I think Ukraine is in a tough spot. I’ve read their manpower issues are becoming more acute even as Russia imports cannon fodder from Yemen and North Korea. US and European material support seemed to be faltering even before the election. Ukraine also has to remember how poorly Western “security guarantees” were honored after the last deal. After getting pushed out of Syria, some kind of win for Putin may seem increasingly necessary for his political credibility.

If Trump comes up with some kind of land for peace deal, Ukraine will be faced with some difficult decisions.

[frugal-one]

https://www.rogerebert.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/The-Manchurian-Candidate-1.jpg

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[frugal-one]

I think Ukraine is in a tough spot. I’ve read their manpower issues are becoming more acute even as Russia imports cannon fodder from Yemen and North Korea. US and European material support seemed to be faltering even before the election. Ukraine also has to remember how poorly Western “security guarantees” were honored after the last deal. After getting pushed out of Syria, some kind of win for Putin may seem increasingly necessary for his political credibility.

If Trump comes up with some kind of land for peace deal, Ukraine will be faced with some difficult decisions.

disgusting to give in to putin… precedent for the future dealings with putin. trump is trying to follow suit with talks of taking over other countries.