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Who do you think - at this time - would be the Dem who could beat Trump’s designated successor?
The governors of MI, PA, IL, and CA seem to be the front runners now.
I hope Kamala doesn’t have another choice. I don’t like her at all.
The Democrats don't seem to have much of a bench of widely-acceptable candidates.
Random thought: Andy Beshear?
The Democrats don't seem to have much of a bench of widely-acceptable candidates.
Random thought: Andy Beshear?
KY gov? I forgot about him.
KY gov? I forgot about him.
That may be his greatest strength :-)
The Democrats don't seem to have much of a bench of widely-acceptable candidates.
Random thought: Andy Beshear?
He’s living with veto-proof GOP majorities in his legislature, which I would assume has to moderate his options. Josh Shapiro would probably make a very strong candidate, although he may not be sufficiently anti-Israel for a significant segment of his party.
I see Mayor Pete is unpacking his carpet bag up in Michigan now. What comes of that might be interesting.
iris lilies
2-18-25, 9:02pm
Protesting in the street is fine, and is a long tradition of expressing dissatisfaction. But I wish you Democrats on this board would be paying attention to what’s happening at the DNC. Who are they electing to their new board? Since they seem to be the king makers in the past two or three elections, are they the sort of people you want selecting your candidate? Making policy?
Three years ago, I begged y’all to Find a candidate who is not ancient, and at the time I didn’t even know how bad off Joe Biden would be in fall 2024. Well you can start now getting a candidate who makes sense, and give him policies that resonate with the American people. Democrats could take back the issue of free speech and be strong advocates for that, there’s room in our culture for them to take that position and fly with it. Democrats have abdicated their responsibility there. They could probably carve out a policy position that makes sense for border control and immigration, just to name a couple of issues they could win on.
catherine
2-18-25, 10:00pm
If we could only find a candidate with half the charisma and ability to connect to their base as Trump. Considering past presidents of both parties, I would say that Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton and Obama had that kind of appeal. YMMV, but there was excitement about them. I can't think of anyone right now who can fill that bill.
Nikki Haley?
I've not seen much in the line ups of much excitement, although I don't know much about the guy in Kentucky. I hope they have learned enough to not even let Kamala or Walz set foot in the ring. I saw a reference suggesting a Teddy Roosevelt type lion of a character is needed. The only thing that comes to mind is a young Bernie somewhere.
iris lilies
2-18-25, 10:15pm
If we could only find a candidate with half the charisma and ability to connect to their base as Trump. Considering past presidents of both parties, I would say that Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton and Obama had that kind of appeal. YMMV, but there was excitement about them. I can't think of anyone right now who can fill that bill.
I agree with your list. Clinton and Obama were your last superstars. You do need that magic fairy dust in the candidate but the guy also needs to be able to go out and sell ideas that are appealing. Right now the party is hamstringing the candidates and for all you all know, you might be killing the interest of your next magic Bean person.
iris lilies
2-18-25, 10:19pm
Nikki Haley?
I've not seen much in the line ups of much excitement, although I don't know much about the guy in Kentucky. I hope they have learned enough to not even let Kamala or Walz set foot in the ring. I saw a reference suggesting a Teddy Roosevelt type lion of a character is needed. The only thing that comes to mind is a young Bernie somewhere.
I agree that if they promote Kamala again, y’all need to make a third-party. Surely they will not be that stupid. And I don’t mean that Kamala was all that bad. She just wasn’t good. But it wasn’t her fault, I blame Joe Biden entirely for the November election fiasco.
littlebittybobby
2-19-25, 1:46am
okay---there's some neo-Kenn-O-dees oot there in E. Blueland, looking for a carreer in polloticks. Yup. Don't know much else about them, but one is Jake Auchincloss, and the other is "Jack" Schlossenberg(or whatever), son of Caroline. Both presumably have great hair and look like male models, no doubt. (see photo).6241
iris lilies
2-19-25, 9:50am
okay---there's some neo-Kenn-O-dees oot there in E. Blueland, looking for a carreer in polloticks. Yup. Don't know much else about them, but one is Jake Auchincloss, and the other is "Jack" Schlossenberg(or whatever), son of Caroline. Both presumably have great hair and look like male models, no doubt. (see photo).6241
no to Kennedys, Bushes, Clintons. And Carnahans. No more from the old dynasties. Give us something fresh.
I would like to see someone full of NEW ideas to remake our neighborhoods and cities. So tired of all the same old politics from both sides. I thought there were some interesting ideas generated by ChatGPT in Casey Means latest newsletter:
https://caseys-means.beehiiv.com/p/newsletter-49
catherine
2-19-25, 12:16pm
I would like to see someone full of NEW ideas to remake our neighborhoods and cities. So tired of all the same old politics from both sides. I thought there were some interesting ideas generated by ChatGPT in Casey Means latest newsletter:
https://caseys-means.beehiiv.com/p/newsletter-49
Really interesting interpretation by ChatGPT. However, it's a bunch of solutions that require the will of the people to implement. I consider that to be a critical challenge. So, I asked ChatGPT how to motivate people to want to implement those kinds of changes:
ChatGPT:
Motivating people to change their lifestyles and values regarding environmental sustainability is a complex challenge, but several strategies can be effective in fostering this change:
1. **Education and Awareness**: Providing accessible information about the impact of individual actions on the environment is crucial. Educational programs can help people understand the consequences of their choices and the importance of sustainable living.
2. **Emotional Connection**: Creating emotional narratives around environmental issues can resonate deeply with individuals. Personal stories, visuals, and relatable experiences can foster empathy and make the issues more tangible.
3. **Community Engagement**: Encouraging community involvement can create a sense of belonging and shared responsibility. Collaborative efforts, such as community clean-ups or tree-planting events, help people feel part of a larger movement.
4. **Incentives and Rewards**: Implementing incentives for sustainable practices can motivate individuals to change. This might include financial incentives, discounts for using public transportation, or recognition programs for eco-friendly businesses.
5. **Role Models and Leadership**: Showcasing influential figures who practice and advocate for sustainability can inspire others. When people see leaders, celebrities, or peers committed to sustainable values, they may be more likely to follow suit.
6. **Accessible Alternatives**: Making sustainable choices easier and more convenient can drive change. This includes improving infrastructure for public transport, expanding access to local, organic food, and promoting renewable energy sources.
7. **Cultural Shift**: A shift in societal values toward sustainability can be encouraged through media, storytelling, and public discourse. Highlighting the benefits of sustainable living in terms of health, community well-being, and economic benefits can support this shift.
8. **Personal Empowerment**: Helping people see that their individual actions matter can foster a sense of empowerment. Small changes, when combined with collective action, can lead to significant outcomes.
9. **Policy Changes**: Advocating for supportive policies at local, national, and global levels can also motivate individuals by creating a framework that encourages sustainable practices.
By combining these approaches, it's possible to cultivate a greater motivation among individuals to change their lifestyles and values in favor of a more sustainable future.
--end ChatGPT--
Boy, talk about a tall order. I sincerely hope the next generations create the critical mass to make these changes. I won't be around to see it, but I hope my grandkids at least see a glimpse of hope.
Protesting in the street is fine, and is a long tradition of expressing dissatisfaction. But I wish you Democrats on this board would be paying attention to what’s happening at the DNC. Who are they electing to their new board? Since they seem to be the king makers in the past two or three elections, are they the sort of people you want selecting your candidate? Making policy?
Three years ago, I begged y’all to Find a candidate who is not ancient, and at the time I didn’t even know how bad off Joe Biden would be in fall 2024. Well you can start now getting a candidate who makes sense, and give him policies that resonate with the American people. Democrats could take back the issue of free speech and be strong advocates for that, there’s room in our culture for them to take that position and fly with it. Democrats have abdicated their responsibility there. They could probably carve out a policy position that makes sense for border control and immigration, just to name a couple of issues they could win on.
The problem Democrats have is that for about 20-30 years they enjoyed such substantial majorities that they could usually win by tickling the erogenous zones of their base voters without needing to appeal much to the general population. They only needed to talk to people within their bubble. But over time, their preferences for social engineering, promoting class and race resentment and economic pandering ceased working as well. It turns out demographics aren’t destiny and that old arc of history didn’t always bend their way. Now they’re stuck with a very shallow pool of candidates.
The Republicans have something of the opposite problem. They abandoned a more-or-less observed set of conservative principles for a broader base of populists and nationalists with the Trump personality cult. I don’t see that working well for them in the long term.
littlebittybobby
2-23-25, 11:21pm
okay---here's some more demmacratz that could have the audacity ta run for national office(see photos)Boss Hogg, and Beta O'Kennedy. Thannkk mee.62476248
littlebittybobby
2-23-25, 11:34pm
okay---and then of course---this guy(see photo) might run, as a "progressive" candidate taking the ball and running with the concept of "change" for social mores. Which, should be well-received by demmacratz. Well, wouldn't it?6249
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