View Full Version : The Return of Greta Thunberg
I see everyone’s favorite international scold is back in the news. Her most recent cause is opposition to Israel’s defending itself too vigorously against Hamas. She took part in one of those flotillas delivering what the NYT referred to as “symbolic aid” and a whole lot of self-righteousness to Gaza. The IDF stopped them, but not to worry; they prerecorded a message about being “kidnapped”.
I read the Israeli Defense Minister is going to force her and her compatriots to view a video of October 7th atrocities, but I somehow doubt that will make much of an impression.
iris lilies
6-9-25, 8:38pm
The little troll girl is trying to be relevant again.
The little troll girl is trying to be relevant again.
We all know that there are 55 "hostages" still held in Gaza by Hamas, right? Abducted 20 months ago.
We all know that there are 55 "hostages" still held in Gaza by Hamas, right? Abducted 20 months ago.
Makes you wonder how well Greta would fare in Hamas custody.
iris lilies
6-10-25, 12:25pm
Makes you wonder how well Greta would fare in Hamas custody.
She will be fine.Hamas coddles their useful idiots.
I think she was in her stride with climate change. There aren't many climate change champions around these days.
I think she was in her stride with climate change. There aren't many climate change champions around these days.
People stopped paying attention to all the claims of imminent death and destruction that never came. The champions overplayed their hand.
People stopped paying attention to all the claims of imminent death and destruction that never came. The champions overplayed their hand.
We won’t have to worry about those claims since they will go away along with all the fired climate science experts making them and turned things over to politicians and self proclaimed mislead uneducated amateur experts who elect them.
Fossil fuel interests don't want anyone studying climate change.
We won’t have to worry about those claims since they will go away along with all the fired climate science experts making them and turned things over to politicians and self proclaimed mislead uneducated amateur experts who elect them.
Fossil fuel interests don't want anyone studying climate change.
The good news is that they could hardly do worse than the respectable credentialed experts have over the past 60-80 years.
The good news is that they could hardly do worse than the respectable credentialed experts have over the past 60-80 years.
I wonder who they will find to replace the people doing cancer research, or if they will just go away like the people doing climate research. There is an inquisition on scientists in general.
Ivermectin around.
I wonder who they will find to replace the people doing cancer research, or if they will just go away like the people doing climate research. There is an inquisition on scientists in general.
Ivermectin around.
Don’t know about cancer, but decade after decade of confident predictions of doom from overpopulation, holes in the ozone layer, acid rain, superbugs and sundry other causes have strained my credulity to the breaking point. I think at least some of the “war on science” hysteria comes from rent-seeking bureaucrats worried about their funding.
Your hypothesis would be interesting to run past ChatGPT for accuracy, now that everyone has access to it.
Your hypothesis would be interesting to run past ChatGPT for accuracy, now that everyone has access to it.
ChatGPT has had enough accuracy issues that I’m not sure I’d accept it as a definitive authority.
Don’t know about cancer, but decade after decade of confident predictions of doom from overpopulation, holes in the ozone layer, acid rain, superbugs and sundry other causes have strained my credulity to the breaking point. I think at least some of the “war on science” hysteria comes from rent-seeking bureaucrats worried about their funding.
Those things didn't just--poof--go away. All of those issues--overpopulation, ozone layer, acid rain and superbugs were/are true threats that people have had enough concern about to research them, recommend solutions, and address with policy. That's how the ozone layer went away--thanks to the Montreal Protocol and the banning of CFCs.
Overpopulation has been mitigated with the science that has given women access to contraceptives. Also playing a role was economic prosperity, and women's rights. But the population is obviously still growing, and many believe that scientific advancement is the only way civilization will be saved. Maybe only the science the Musk and Bezos provide is to be trusted.
Fossil fuels and power plant effects of acid rain still occurs, but thanks to air pollution regulations, it occurs far less frequently. If those regulations are rolled back, we will return to smog-filled cities, and increases in respiratory disease.
Superbigs.. well, we know what happened with COVID.
I'm not as cynical as you are. Maybe scientists don't know everything, but I respect their positions enough to trust that most of them are very smart and have appropriate credentials for their jobs, unlike the current Cabinet. I believe they do the best they can to pursue and assess objective, evidence-based truths about our world The idea that they are this administration's "bad guys" and are divested of their roles, protecting the citizens from things that can kill us, is simply crazy to me. Just as crazy as Hegseth being Secretary of Defense, Lee Zeldin as EPA head, and Casey Means as potential Surgeon General.
Also, I have nothing against Greta Thunberg. I think she's a person of principle who walks her walk, and we need more of those.
IMHO.
It's probably up for discussion, but it was the green revolution that may have saved us from over population. Improved seed strains, new pesticides, and techniques to synthesize fertilizers allow the population to grow by billlions that may have otherwise be limited by food production. All of which came about by the same principles of scientific research that allowed new vaccines and medical treatments that limited or eliminated pandemics. And the same framework of investigation that defines climate change. Science may never be perfect, but observations testing and measurements are what have defined our civilization, as it is. And it's what's being cut in research centers doing all sorts of valuable work.
It sort oif comes down to, who do youn trust.
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