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I see that over the weekend a group of smartly dressed but tactically inept folks attempted a poorly executed ambush outside an ICE facility. Apparently body armor and Antifa chic wasn’t enough to put them over the top. Eleven arrests were made. It harkened me back to the old days when amateur Weather Underground bombmakers were blowing themselves up.
I wish the ICE people were smartly-dressed.
So many of the videos from the mainland I see of ICE raids show people in a hodgepodge of widely-mismatching bits of tactical clothing from Amazon/LA Police Gear, mismatched body armor, mismatching weapons and identifying patches, randomly placed kit on their cheesy tactical vest carriers, mismatched shoes, and clearly mismatched tactical training.
You'd think with their new budget they could at least hire Hugo Boss to design some nifty uniforms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h242eDB84zY
I see that over the weekend a group of smartly dressed but tactically inept folks attempted a poorly executed ambush outside an ICE facility.
I think I may have mentioned here before that I regularly participate in the large-scale training exercises in crowd control the Washington State Patrol does(*). I'm generally one of the "mob", so they have people to practice on. I'll say that if you are referring to the video I just saw yesterday of some kerfluffle at the San Francisco ICE office that the officers looked almost completely untrained and inexperienced to my eye.
(*) Random tidbit, not entirely unconnected, in this state, the Washington State Patrol runs the state fire academy and sets most of requirements for firefighters in this state, so we like to help them out as best we can. You can imagine it's difficult for them to find a few hundred people who are willing to get tear gassed and shot with pepper balls and all that sort of thing, but firefighters seem not to mind much.
I think I may have mentioned here before that I regularly participate in the large-scale training exercises in crowd control the Washington State Patrol does(*). I'm generally one of the "mob", so they have people to practice on. I'll say that if you are referring to the video I just saw yesterday of some kerfluffle at the San Francisco ICE office that the officers looked almost completely untrained and inexperienced to my eye.
(*) Random tidbit, not entirely unconnected, in this state, the Washington State Patrol runs the state fire academy and sets most of requirements for firefighters in this state, so we like to help them out as best we can. You can imagine it's difficult for them to find a few hundred people who are willing to get tear gassed and shot with pepper balls and all that sort of thing, but firefighters seem not to mind much.
It was in Texas, which I believe to be less tolerant in general of kerfuffling than SF. But it wasn’t the LA or Portland sort of rock-throwing or fire-setting. It was people with guns shooting at people.
It was in Texas, which I believe to be less tolerant in general of kerfuffling than SF. But it wasn’t the LA or Portland sort of rock-throwing or fire-setting. It was people with guns shooting at people.
Oh my!
The SF event from yesterday was just people yelling and waving/blocking with bicycles, and some protestor got run over by an ICE vehicle. (Assuming it was ICE - as I complain above they were so sloppy it could have been anybody.)
Ah, here's the SF incident:
https://missionlocal.org/2025/07/video-ice-agents-brandish-rifles-drive-through-protesters-at-s-f-immigration-court
And here's the Texas incident:
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/10-suspects-charged-july-4-attack-texas-ice-detention-facility
ICE was checking out the National Museum of Puerto Rican Art in Chicago in the last day or two. When asked, they said they were checking out the safety of exits and the like. Some big festival this weekend. The scum.
ICE was checking out the National Museum of Puerto Rican Art in Chicago in the last day or two. When asked, they said they were checking out the safety of exits and the like. Some big festival this weekend. The scum.
In Washington State, impersonating a public official is a class C felony. Building inspectors and Fire Marshals should have a word with the ICE impostors.
In Washington State, impersonating a public official is a class C felony. Building inspectors and Fire Marshals should have a word with the ICE impostors.
I was driving south on 101 Monday when a black SUV, heavily tinted, roared onto the highway at my right, swung around me and sped off. It did not have ANY license plates, front nor back. Not even a temporary. I thought about calling 911, but it was long gone. And I'd have had to fumble for my phone & pull over someplace. It really shook me. seeing that.
littlebittybobby
7-9-25, 10:36pm
okay----i am in agreement with you kids----they needta dress them ICE People up in sharp brown uniforms, with helmets and boots and gloves, and give them those tactical clubs and train them how to "King" people they take into custody. also, pass a quick law against ANYONE photographing it, or they too get "Kinged". Swift justice for perps. Yup. Restoring order is top priority, with mee. Yup.6429
I was driving south on 101 Monday when a black SUV, heavily tinted, roared onto the highway at my right, swung around me and sped off. It did not have ANY license plates, front nor back. Not even a temporary. I thought about calling 911, but it was long gone. And I'd have had to fumble for my phone & pull over someplace. It really shook me. seeing that.
This is happening right now, our domestic peace is being disrupted by ICE, with their masks and their horses and their marching through public parks and terrifying children. And yet the point of this thread is to mock those who protest ICE. I'm mystified by those who are defending this administration's lawless bullying of American citizens.
This is happening right now, our domestic peace is being disrupted by ICE, with their masks and their horses and their marching through public parks and terrifying children. And yet the point of this thread is to mock those who protest ICE. I'm mystified by those who are defending this administration's lawless bullying of American citizens.
It takes a pretty expansive definition of “protest” to include firing weapons at law enforcement officers.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/08/texas-ice-agents-ambush
Or would that come under the umbrella of “mostly peaceful” because they only managed to wound one?
I am talking about the peaceful protests that are occurring everywhere. I am talking about the reaction of the mayor to ICE showing up at the park with the children's summer camp. I was talking about what happened to Kay. I was talking about public officials being arrested when they show up to defend the public.
No, not talking about the incident you are talking about at the start of the thread. I do wonder why you are defending ICE right now. I don't advocate violence and I wish to prevent the violence that ICE is bringing into our nation.
Trump's ICE is clearly trying to foment public violence, which he will then use as an excuse to institute martial law. And I do wonder why you are on that side of things. Really dangerous, and really sad.
I'll say this once more. I do not advocate anyone shooting anyone. Or anyone shooting anyone ever. And I also don't advocate for what ICE is doing. And I don't think the ICE uniforms are random:
The Blackshirts - A Reminder of a Brutal, Fascist Past (https://h-o-m-e.org/who-were-the-blackshirts/)
I think the accusations of your opponents as fascist trope has been the resort of lazy minds since Truman used it on Dewey.
I think the present drama around illegal immigration is better explained as two sets of demagogues baiting each other to increasing levels of stupidity.
ICE handcuffs 71-year-old grandmother, a U.S. citizen, at San Diego immigration court (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-handcuffs-71-year-old-grandmother-a-u-s-citizen-at-san-diego-immigration-court/ar-AA1ImNbj?ocid=BingNewsSerp)
This week, ICE decided to:
- take the ferry over from the mainland to the largest of my county's ferry-served islands, San Juan Island. They brought several unmarked vehicles over, on the 1.5 hour ferry ride. Presumably they also waited an hour before boarding on the other side
- they then proceeded to a small apartment complex in the town on that island, and dragged away a man
- they were masked, and wearing a variety of mix-and-match police gear and insignia
- the man has lived here ~20 years, and seems to have no criminal record. He has been gainfully employed for ages, and seems well-liked in the community
- he was in the apartment for a court-scheduled visitation with his minor-aged child
- the child is a US citizen, or at least is for now...
- the Sheriff was not alerted to the ICE presence or activity
- ICE then drove their vehicles down to the ferry landing, and took the man away, somewhere to the mainland
- it took the community, with the help of the Sheriff and state legislators, several days to even locate where they had taken the fellow
If the focus is on deporting criminals, why come all the way out here, at such great trouble and expense, to literally bag someone who seems to be no threat?
Anyways, this should all be fine, right?
That is terrible, bae.
There is a person I know who I am rather close to whose close relative, and I won't be more specific than I need to be, is from another county and has been here for decades. Married to an American citizen. Had a good, thriving business. Since this crap has gone on this person closed down his business and is now living with a person who is giving them anonymous shelter. His workers have split--voluntarily and non-voluntarily. They don't deserve this.
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“We made the determination as a city that we cannot have armed masked men who are not identifying themselves — who the federal government is refusing to confirm are federal agents — running around and conducting this type of activity that is dangerous and volatile,” Pasadena Mayor Victor M. Gordo said in an interview.
I'm not sure where the rounding up farm workers stands after Steven Miller got on the ICE agents for high deportations and thn Trump reversed it. I read recently that there are 75,000 undocumented farmer workers in the Central Valley in California, which pretty much a bread basket of our food system. One farmer said if ICE raids start there, it a tinderbox among the immigrants who already nervous and ready to flee in fear at the first hints. They are going to have to move beyond criminals to meet Trump's quotas. Maybe they can replace the immigrants with Medicaid recipients (ha). I'd like to think the current administration is smart enough to avoid a farm worker shortage, but when a person in charge shoots their hunting dog in the face for misbehaving, who knows.
I have about 40 acres of primo agricultural land here. I have about 8 acres of it in vineyards, and make ~2000 cases of wine a year. The rest is the land is currently leased to a neighbor for sheep grazing. I think I'll carve off some of that for market gardening this year, and lease it out for production.
I'm also going to get my own greenhouse and raised bed space back into production, it historically has been able to generate most of the veggies for the family, but my Mother hasn't been able to keep up with it the past few years. The vintage pear orchard remnants there make enough pear cider, dried pears, pear pie filling, pear chutney to provide a surplus for barter/gifts, while feeding family and friends pears to the point that they never want to see a pear again.
Kelp gathering, crab/prawn traps, and fishing for salmon and rockfish off the beach should make up for the rest. I'll trade some labor to a friend in exchange for beef/goat/lamb/pork, and life will be good. Worst case, the several dozen deer that roam across my driveway every morning will make fine jerky.
Good luck to you all.
iris lilies
7-11-25, 4:54pm
I wish I could shoot the damn deer that roam across my property.
Looks like ICE managed to kill someone in their raid in Ventura County, CA yesterday.
Perhaps unrelated, UFW, who just issued some press releases about this, seems to have their website crippled by a denial-of-service attack.
Fun times.
MAGA
I wish I could shoot the damn deer that roam across my property.
There are so many here, and they are so tame, you basically just need to hold an apple out in one hand, and have a baseball bat in the other. No gun required.
The golf course geese may not fair well here in case of food shortages. Nine iron?
The golf course geese may not fair well here in case of food shortages. Nine iron?
I could maybe get behind ICE if they'd keep the hordes of Canadian Geese from flying down here and pooping all over our island.
iris lilies
7-11-25, 7:16pm
The golf course geese may not fair well here in case of food shortages. Nine iron?
You kid, but in our old neighborhood where we took care of the ducks and geese in the lake in the city park, people would occasionally drop off their unwanted geese. Well guess what, we didn’t want them either. They’re aggressive little beasts. One November DH and his partner in crime Hatched a plan to kill, dress and cook one of the geese for Thanksgiving dinner. They were all set and ready to go when they learned that somebody had captured the goose and relocated him. Too bad.
One November DH and his partner in crime Hatched a plan to kill, dress and cook one of the geese for Thanksgiving dinner. They were all set and ready to go when they learned that somebody had captured the goose and relocated him. Too bad.
I hate cooking geese. They render off so much fat it is just a mess.
By contrast, the pheasants I released into the wetlands here have provided many a nice, lean, tasty meal over the years.
A city of Denver Park has so many Canada Geese that over winter and never migrate that goose droppings create problems along walkways and pollute the lake. They capture a couple of thousand every year, euthanize them, and donate the meat to charity places. They suggest ground goose chili and also shepherd's pie. I think it's an acquired taste.
It always gets some attention from the animal rights people.
Looks like ICE managed to kill someone in their raid in Ventura County, CA yesterday.
MAGA
I may be behind the times as I just returned home from several days of scenic train rides across West Virginia with my grandson but are you referring to the fellow who fell off a roof while trying to evade capture and was later taken off life support at his family's request?
There are so many here, and they are so tame, you basically just need to hold an apple out in one hand, and have a baseball bat in the other. No gun required.
Geez we had one run into our house and break her neck last fall. WDFW said we could
do with it what we wanted as they're just considered nuisances.
I had to look this up to verify my recollection, but I remember when they were on the verge of extinction, around 1962--my dad was a big hunter, so he talked about things like that all the time.
Talk about making a comeback.
early morning
7-12-25, 10:57am
Canada/Canadian geese are protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act at the Federal level; it prohibits the taking (including killing, capturing, selling, trading, and transport) of protected migratory bird species without prior authorization from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Lots of states have additional protections on their books. In Ohio, killing a Canada Goose can get you $250 per bird (or per egg destroyed) and /or 30 days in jail - on top of the Fish & Wildlife penalties. Before you get out that 9 iron, you may want to consider the consequences. Personally, I think we should lobby for specific exclusions for Canada geese from the MBTA. I love them - but they thrive w/o natural predators. They are TOO thriving, lol.
I call them Cobra Chickens and despise them. They're all over here.
ICE came over here again yesterday. Again they travelled all the way over the ocean, showed up in unmarked vehicles, and bagged a man who was picking up his daughter for his shared-custody time. Man has no criminal record or warrants. Man has legal status, and was in the process of getting green card issued. Man married to US citizen. Kid US citizen. Once they bagged the guy, they drove him to a dock and loaded him onto an arriving ICE vessel, and off he went. We haven't found him yet.
I've also had nearly a dozen confirmed reports of them boarding private vessels and going through everyone's paperwork. My County is made up entirely of small islands, small private boats are basically our pickup trucks here for going to work or running errands. My county runs a small passenger-only boat to make up for disruptions in the State ferry service, and the captains that run that service have asked that we all carry our citizenship papers when we board.
Fun times.
Canada/Canadian geese are protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act at the Federal level; it prohibits the taking (including killing, capturing, selling, trading, and transport) of protected migratory bird species without prior authorization from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Lots of states have additional protections on their books. In Ohio, killing a Canada Goose can get you $250 per bird (or per egg destroyed) and /or 30 days in jail - on top of the Fish & Wildlife penalties. Before you get out that 9 iron, you may want to consider the consequences. Personally, I think we should lobby for specific exclusions for Canada geese from the MBTA. I love them - but they thrive w/o natural predators. They are TOO thriving, lol.
There is a hunting season for geese when taking them within allowed methods of the law is just fine.
Of course I was mostly referring to a tongue in cheek reference to possible urban food sources in an un likely case of a food crisis due to farm worker shortages. I suspect in that unlikely event, a lot of wildlife protection laws would be compromised.
early morning
7-13-25, 10:04am
Oh, I know Canada/Canadian geese can be taken in season. And I got the tongue in cheek, but I've talked to a lot of people who don't realize you can't just kill them or steal the eggs. And raiding nests can be dangerous, those birds are BIG! I just think they need a "carve out" so they can be "harvested" more readily, and legally, in areas where there's no legal hunting (Downtown Chicago, for instance!) It's ironic that people hate them, want them removed from the area, and then complain like crazy that they are PROTECTED!!! if they think a homeless group is eating them. And yes, that's happened here.
Canada/Canadian geese are protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act at the Federal level; it prohibits the taking (including killing, capturing, selling, trading, and transport) of protected migratory bird species without prior authorization from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Lots of states have additional protections on their books. In Ohio, killing a Canada Goose can get you $250 per bird (or per egg destroyed) and /or 30 days in jail - on top of the Fish & Wildlife penalties. Before you get out that 9 iron, you may want to consider the consequences. Personally, I think we should lobby for specific exclusions for Canada geese from the MBTA. I love them - but they thrive w/o natural predators. They are TOO thriving, lol.
We solved the problem on our County golf courses by contracting with a guy who trained dogs to harass geese until they moved along. It worked pretty well, and the dogs seemed to really enjoy their work.
We solved the problem on our County golf courses by contracting with a guy who trained dogs to harass geese until they moved along. It worked pretty well, and the dogs seemed to really enjoy their work.
In our former township, one of the parks was overrun with Canadian geese, and the township employed a few border collies to solve the problem. I am heartbroken that my border collie mix didn't live long enough to chase away the geese on our lakeshore. Our neighbors go nuts with every cheesy contraption to deter geese from pooping on our lawn, but refuse my suggestion---growing vegetation at the lakefront as a barrier. I know it works.
Our parks have put silhouette cut-outs of coyotes in grassy areas to scare geese away. I don't know if it works, but coyotes have become another urban pest.
early morning
7-14-25, 2:47pm
I like the dog chasing idea! Season for Canada geese in Ohio is 7 days, with a 5 per day bag limit. IMHO, that's not nearly enough to keep numbers manageable. But I don't hunt anymore, so what do I know. Coyotes, at least here, have no season and are classed as a nuisance. They can be hunted anytime, as long as you have a valid hunting license, and there are no bag limits. In town, though, that's a bit more of an issue, as you can't generally (legally) discharge a firearm in city limits. And most traps wouldn't be safe. Geese are a pain, but coyotes are a safety issue, or can be. Generally they seem pretty shy, but that's changing as they move closer in to inhabited spaces. Or as we move out into their habitat.
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