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rodeosweetheart
9-23-11, 8:25am
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boss mare
9-27-11, 11:42pm
I saw this and would be interested in what you posted

rodeosweetheart
10-2-11, 7:40pm
I saw this and would be interested in what you posted

Hi Boss Mare, I just wondered if anyone here had purchased a horse from the Camelot feedlot, or known anyone who had done so, and if so, how it turned out. Was just trying to get information, as was thinking of doing so.

pony mom
10-3-11, 10:10pm
There is a farm in NJ that rescues a lot of horses from there. Here's their site: http://hher.webs.com/

I don't personally know anyone who has a rescue from there, but one of those horses, Chase, was David Letterman's mount when he rode in NYC with Harrison Ford? I think. The site has an Adopted/Placed page. I do know that the Camelot auction owners work with the rescue groups in trying to get many of the horses out of the kill pens and into rescue. Whether these horse are adopted out or so sick or crippled that they are taken in and euthanized, they are spared going to the slaughterhouse.

My retired horse lived near this farm and I met the owner, Lisa. She's a very nice, generous woman and she and others work so hard to save the unwanted horses. Their workers are the only ones allowed at the auction to photograph the horses; these photos are circulated to many rescue groups in the hopes of saving them.

boss mare
10-3-11, 10:38pm
Hi Boss Mare, I just wondered if anyone here had purchased a horse from the Camelot feedlot, or known anyone who had done so, and if so, how it turned out. Was just trying to get information, as was thinking of doing so.


I, myself would not buy a horse at an auction 8 times out of 10 it is a dumping ground for someone elses's problem horse... Yes there is the 2 out of the 10 that they need to find the horse a home due to life changes and the horse is OK.. BUt I would not take the chance... I have had many " rescue" horses given to me and have only had a handful that worked out... most to them seemed very quiet but once I got them wormed, teeth floated and groceries on them they felt better and they were absolute nut cases And as you know a "Free Horse" is in the same league as Santa, the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny LOL
I just paid 340.00 a ton for a good Orchard/ Alfalfa mix ( 5 tons ) and grain is going up in price too With the cost of upkeep I have no desire to take a chance on someone elses problem Plus I just turned 50 and don't bounce the way that I used to LOL But that is just me .. your mileage may vary lol
If you are looking to get a horse to give it a new home but not take as much a risk maybe look at getting a horse through reputable rescue ( as opposed to someone who
"collects" horses aka a hoarder) that way they have been able to acess the horse for health and behavior issues . There is a forum that (although I roll my eyes at most of them) called Alex Brown Forum... There is alot of people on there that get rescues from Camelot Maybe Google that Forum and check there. There is a alot of flakes and wannabes on there so be careful not to be taken with some sob story
Good Luck and keep us posted

rodeosweetheart
10-5-11, 4:36pm
Thanks, guys, so much. The latest auction is tonight. Those that do not sell get posted on this rescue site, the photos, and people buy them from the feedlot before they are shipped to slaughter on Sunday. The rescue people may rescue some, but generally individuals buy them.

Yes, they are posted on alexbrownracing, and there is a Facebook page on Facebook.

If I do anything, I will let you know.

boss mare
10-5-11, 5:13pm
Good Luck and go into this with your eyes wide open and have clear concise goals for what you are looking for and don't settle for anything less
There are alot of horses out there and there is no need to end up with one that has mental and physical issues

rodeosweetheart
1-18-12, 3:07pm
Well, just to update, I did get a rescue horse from Camelot, about a week after posting on the forum and getting such good advice from everyone concerned. She went to quarantine in NC for about six weeks and then on to down where I live in SC. She is a 12 (ish) year old mare, Appaloosa, and has spent the last six weeks down here gaining weight and working with my trainer and with me.

While she was certainly not a get up and go push button horse, she is meeting every one of my hopes so far--in good health, not needing anything but catch up with vet, dentist, and farrier, and a real sweet girl. I am 55 and don't bounce, either, and in fact had an illness that left me paralyzed, relearning to walk, about 7 years ago. She is part of my recuperation, as I started riding again last summer to help with balance. She seems to have been used in some pretty aggressive gaming, so all we are working on is slowing her down and getting her un-hot when we work. She has made super progress in last two weeks, and it did take her a while to feel safe and to bond--as my trainer said, she seemed very "blank" and traumatized when she got here. But she was just spooky and anxious, not mean. Now, she is a world class cuddler, loves to hang her head and be patted, and is starting to calm down and enjoy our rides. She is also (according to my trainer, not me, the proud mama) "supersmart" and very willing.

It wasn't cheap (it would be if you lived nearby, had a quarantine set up, and didn't need two trailerings) , and it was a crap shoot, but boy, I love this horse, and she is no longer in danger of being sold to slaughter. Oh, and she is really, really beautiful, although loves to roll in the mud, and it has been too cold downhere to give her a second real bath.

So this particular story had a very happy ending:)

boss mare
1-18-12, 6:23pm
I am glad that you found what you were looking for You are much braver than me , taking on an ex- gaming horse !thumbsup! I show in the much slower events western pleasure, trail, showmanship, hunt seat equitation and horsemanship Did your mare come with papers? If so maybe you can track down previous owners and get an idea of her background . If you have her registered name you can go to ApHC and see if she if she has had a foal, been shown, and alot of other info Good luck and keep us posted

rodeosweetheart
1-18-12, 7:40pm
Not braver, boss, just fool hardier, but it did turn out okay. Ditto on the Western Pleasure, that's what we want to do. She did not come with papers and is unregisterable since I know nothing about her parentage, though she is leopard spotted, white schlera, striped hooves, etc. So unfortunately, I can't track down anything. I do wish the Appaloosa people would admit by DNA, and think they should, if they want to protect the breed, but what do I know? I never thought I would own an Appaloosa, so that part is funny, but I am liking the breed as she seems so smart.

She acts like she had some really good training early on, and then her life took a turn for the worse. She has some cues installed that are good, and she really, really listens and tries to please you. Then, she will sort of get into this weird zone and do weird things, so that is what we are trying to do--erase the bad years and go back to her good beginning!

boss mare
1-18-12, 8:36pm
The ApHC does have a hardship clause open to geldings and spayed mares that meet the color requirements But I don't know if you want to go to the expense of having her spayed I have no idea what is costs The papers would say under sire and dam, unknown X unknown The ApHC does require DNA of sire/dam/foal and has for at least 12 years I am a firm believer in selling horses with their papers and also am a firm believer in transfering a horse into the new owners name. I got into a "discussion" with some people over at the ABR about tranfering papers. There is alot mis information that goes on over there and I just had to walk away from it all
I show breed level ApHC and the horse in the my profile is my new one I got him last April The one before that I showed for 10 years earned 2 reserve national championships multiple top five and tens A reserve world championship mulitple top fives and tens 6 ROMs and one superior I sold her and she is a walk trot horse for a little girl and will be able to use her in the novice youth classes too

rodeosweetheart
1-18-12, 10:19pm
What a nice looking horse! Love the spots.
I would not have her spayed, as I wouldn't want to put her through something liek that just to register her. I wish she had come with papers, I relaly do. Supposedly, sometimes people hold their papers back as they do not want to be discovered dumping the horse at auction.

I am going to try to pm you her picture. I can't fiture out how to get it here.

daisy
1-19-12, 5:38pm
rodeosweetheart, thank you for the update and for saving a horse! A friend of mine is always posting the available horses from Camelot on Facebook and it just breaks my heart.

boss mare
1-20-12, 11:37pm
There are many reasons horses don't come with papers Some are grade horses who can't be registered, some people hold the papersfor " hostage" (for lack of a better word) and want extra money for them some horses have heath issues like HYPP/lameness or behavioral problems and they don't want people to know, Some horses were elgable for registration but was the horse gets older it becames more expensive and then no one wants to spend money to do so

It has occured to me that people who might not be into horses may wonder what all of the abbrevations are
Here is a quick primer for non-horse people
AQHA- American Quarter Horse Assocation the worlds largests breed assocation
ApHC- Appaloosa Horse Club The registration for the Appaloosa horse
APHA- American Paint Horse Assocation The registration for Paint horses, originally was for AQHA with too much white markings
HYPP - Hyperkalemic Periodic Paralyisis A genetic disease found in the blood lines of the AQHA horse named Impressive
ABR - Alex Brown Racing an on line forum that is a mix of horse racing, horse rescue, and other things
THere are more Alot more but that it the ones that are on this thread so far
There are many many more but that is some that have entered this conversation