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Zoe Girl
5-2-12, 10:29am
I am venting so I can go into work and look people in the eye.

There is a job coming up in our organization that I have asked about, several times. Just if we know the job description, the due date for an application, etc. I didn't ask how much it paid but I would love to know. It must be more than I earn. I think I am pretty good at my job, some mistakes at times of course, but I have expressed a leadership quality and have built good relationships despite being in charge of 12 different schools in less than 2 years.

The job is posted on Craigslist, not on the district web site. My own supervisor did not tell me anything useful last week when we met and I asked again about it. And it pays $22K more than I earn, more in the range of what I could expect with a Masters in Ed and 15 years of volunteer and paid experience with children and organizations.

The focus for today is to not give away to any of my competition that I know about the job posting, take some personal time and apply, and then evaluate later if and who I need to tell about this. I am trusting my gut which says either my supervisor has been kept in the dark as well or that she really does not think I do a good job.

fidgiegirl
5-2-12, 5:51pm
The whole thing sounds suspect. Why wouldn't she tell you, when you were asking straight out? And HUGE red flag, why wouldn't it be on the district's web site (unless I'm misunderstanding, and it's a different organization's job?)

redfox
5-2-12, 5:57pm
My take - don't tell anyone about it; that would serve no purpose except to raise ire. Just apply. You have no idea what constraints your supervisor may be under - don't assume anything. Make decisions only on the data you have, not on emotions! And good luck.

fidgiegirl
5-2-12, 5:58pm
My take - don't tell anyone about it; that would serve no purpose except to raise ire. Just apply. You have no idea what constraints your supervisor may be under - don't assume anything. Make decisions only on the data you have, not on emotions! And good luck.

Redfox DOES have better advice than I do . . . :) It's true. Who knows what the heck the supervisor has been directed to do?

Zoe Girl
5-3-12, 7:58am
thank you both, I am agreeing with the say nothing. I even had a person ask about it who is also interested but I work closer to that side, I kept it out of lying but just told her the last time I talked with J there was no information yet and what else I know from her.

I do not want to assume anything, I just thought my organization was better than being sneaky like this. And who knows, could be a computer glitch along the way and no ones fault.

Valley
5-3-12, 8:45am
I don't know how sneaky anyone is being, but I do know that before filling a position from in-house I sometimes posted positions publicly. I did this even when someone on staff had expressed interest in that job or another similar job. Often, I wanted to see who else was out there before I decided. I was always trying to find the strongest candidate for the position. That said, I often filled positions from within and then advertised those positions left open from the "promotions". But, we were a private center and I didn't have a stringent set of hiring policies to follow. What are the hiring policies where you work? Good luck!

cdttmm
5-3-12, 11:03am
If this is a grant funded position or a state job, then it may be a requirement that the position is posted publicly. Posting it on Craig's list is free and also would only attract the most local of applicants, so it's probably a good way to check the box on this requirement without spending any money or getting inundated with applications. I would go ahead and apply. Although I would probably tell my supervisor after the fact -- that way she knows that you have applied so there won't be any way for someone to later claim "Oh, we didn't get an application from Zoe Girl. Are you sure she applied?"

Zoe Girl
5-3-12, 11:52am
I had no idea of the requirement to post the position publicly, that makes more sense. I understand wanting to get the best candidate, it is a hard transition in this organization. A year ago or more it changed from people getting jobs by friendship and relation to now a totally impersonal process. Which is just great because I finally learned you get jobs by knowing people more than being a resume in a pile. So I have been working on the connections and never ever saying things bad in person (not that I did) and building up my career. I am not impersonal with my staff or families, and since so much of our work is relationships I hope that in some way that part of our jobs matter.

I have really been taking this badly because in my mind it was more about not telling me the truth of it already being posted somewhere and reading into that how my supervisors felt about me and my work (it has been an unsettling year) than some requirement. They have all worked in this for years so they understand it.

redfox
5-3-12, 2:40pm
Try not to make any assumptions! Words like 'sneaky' color the data. Stick to information that could be recorded by a video cam... Reading into things is making assumptions based upon feelings, not on information, and will be incorrect.

If you can drop your assumptions & judgements, your approach to this position will be clearer & more effective. Keep your eye on the prize!

Valley
5-3-12, 3:42pm
Try not to make any assumptions! Words like 'sneaky' color the data. Stick to information that could be recorded by a video cam... Reading into things is making assumptions based upon feelings, not on information, and will be incorrect.

If you can drop your assumptions & judgements, your approach to this position will be clearer & more effective. Keep your eye on the prize!

Great advice for so many situations in life..."keep your eye on the prize"...and I will add...always know exactly what the prize is!