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Hope y'all had a good holiday.
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[QUOTE=bae;99212]Hope y'all had a good holiday.
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I think that Obama had sincere intentions of running the USA in complete honesty in returning your country to its' former profitable status, but how can he possibly get it done when Republicans fight him every step of the way?
He couldn't even get your health care sorted out thanks to the Republicans. Why did the Republicans not want good health care?
Yes, he did fail, but at least he tried.
I hope everyone who believes unions are corrupt wastes of time, energy, and money was working yesterday...
This greedy, profit seeking, reptilian sociopathic of a capitalist had a great day partying with some other American Brahmans. New recipe resulted in the best potato salad I've ever made. Who needs unions when you have bacon?
Well, this liberal, who apparently blames everything on the poor, misunderstood billionaires (who are, evidently, the only really good guys in this little drama, nudge-nudge wink-wink) spent the evening listening to some old school rock and eating fried fish. Who needs a stinking union when you are independently wealthy! Party on!
See what you get, Bae, for posting such an inflammatory statement?
ApatheticNoMore
9-4-12, 10:33am
I hope everyone who believes unions are corrupt wastes of time, energy, and money was working yesterday...
I don't believe so, I try not to shop on holidays out of what do you think? Protest and solidarity :). While some work is critical (drug stores perhaps, hospitals of course), I believe most more than deserve their break from crazy workaholic culture. Though personally, I did end up having to do some work yesterday yes.
I thought the cartoon was funny.. and a little too true.
"Who needs unions when you have bacon?" LOL Gregg!
While some work is critical (drug stores perhaps, hospitals of course), I believe most more than deserve their break from crazy workaholic culture. Though personally, I did end up having to do some work yesterday yes.
Actually, I long ago decided that, if I was shopping at a store on Holiday X for their big Holiday X Sale, someone was working on the holiday to serve me as a shopper. That seemed contrary to purpose for me, so I only buy what I must on holidays. Yesterday I was on the road, so I ended up purchasing a quickie-mart sandwich and a bottle of water and that's it.
But the point in posting my comment was that Labor Day is widely enjoyed as a vacation day for most Americans when, in fact, it was created by union members to honor the working (wo)man. I would think consistency would demand that anyone who finds unions useless in the scheme of work (their names are legion) would find it no more appropriate to observe Labor Day than it would be for a Muslim to observe Easter or an American to observe Bolivian Independence Day. It's really easy to accept the benefits unions have brought to our workplace. It seems to be a little more difficult in our current political environment to admit that maybe -- just maybe -- there absolutely is some worker exploitation going on.
By the way, bae, I thought the cartoon was dead on. Thank you for posting it!
I can't disagree overmuch with the sentiment--especially the reptilian part. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/mother_goose/MG_08.gif
Perhaps if things get bad enough, the electorate will finally rouse from a dreamless slumber and take back its constitutionally-guaranteed control.
The Storyteller
9-4-12, 1:12pm
I hope everyone who believes unions are corrupt wastes of time, energy, and money was working yesterday...
I tend to have the same sentiment, every labor day.
Didn't read the cartoon. Too much reading for me.
ToomuchStuff
9-4-12, 1:24pm
Perhaps if things get bad enough, the electorate will finally rouse from a dreamless slumber and take back its constitutionally-guaranteed control.
Good luck with the ignorant masses. I think it would take a nationwide tv and internet outage to get them roused. As for union's, like so many things, they have both good and bad sides and I have seen some of both. (know one UPS guy whose stated goal, was to be the WORST employee in the union and still have his job). But that is kind of my view of politician's, they may start with good intentions on a local level, but when they get up to the "big boy" ranks, well so much corruption and lying has set in.
As for labor day, my former favorite holiday of the year (and the day I am the most bitter), well I put in my 13 hour day.
Being Labor Day I thought it would be fitting to split some firewood and gave thanks for being out of the traditional work force. After Gregg's potato salad review I read Steve MN quote of unions and thought it was onions, which took me a while to figure out. Anyway I am now hungry for bacon, which is best used in BLTs with fresh garden tomatoes IMHO, but also sounds good in potato salad.
My opinion of Obama is not quite as low as the cartoon might imply, but I did enjoy the Romney remarks. I have a handful of friends who have benefited from Obama's stimulus used for shovel ready projects and renewable energy incentives. I think they were thankful for jobs yesterday.
Yeah. I wish President Obama were more FDR-esque, but I recognize he's hamstrung by the Grover Norquist "drown government in a bathtub" cult and minority leader Mitch McConnell's vow to make him a one-term president--whatever it takes. And I agree that both sides are tainted by the need to pander to big-money interests. As others have pointed out, it's imperative that we enact meaningful campaign finance reform as soon as possible.
I've been a member of two different unions in my life, and generally support unions, though I have major issues with specific unions and specific laws concerning union activity.
I celebrate the power of people working together to bargain collectively. I just don't like attempts to use the force of government to coerce people, on either side of the negotiating table.
And I worked yesterday, as I do every day, union or not :-)
Can I put in a plug for Frances Perkins who was Secy of Labor under Roosevelt?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Perkins
amazing accomplishments for the working people, and almost no one remembers her.
Count me among the union supporters, even though i've never been part of one. It seems like the anti-union folks often overstate the harm that unions do to the economy or their employers. My SO's employer, for example, is a large unionized hotel in a major city. (SO is the HR director so I'm well acquainted with what wages/benefits/job protections his employees receive) All of his employees earn good wages and benefits. Despite that cost to the hotel it still is able to be profitable. Could it be even more profitable or offer slightly lower room rates if it weren't unionized and paid everyone walmart wages and benefits? Perhaps. But it's already profitable, and certainly couldn't operate without the hard work of its employees, so why shouldn't they expect to make a decent living. And because they do make a decent living they are able to spend their earnings throughout the rest of the economy. That, to me, is a much better trickle-down plan than what the republicans propose.
Count me among the union supporters, even though i've never been part of one. It seems like the anti-union folks often overstate the harm that unions do to the economy or their employers. My SO's employer, for example, is a large unionized hotel in a major city. (SO is the HR director so I'm well acquainted with what wages/benefits/job protections his employees receive) All of his employees earn good wages and benefits. Despite that cost to the hotel it still is able to be profitable. Could it be even more profitable or offer slightly lower room rates if it weren't unionized and paid everyone walmart wages and benefits? Perhaps. But it's already profitable, and certainly couldn't operate without the hard work of its employees, so why shouldn't they expect to make a decent living. And because they do make a decent living they are able to spend their earnings throughout the rest of the economy. That, to me, is a much better trickle-down plan than what the republicans propose.
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