People use our property as a dump site. :( [Archive]

CathyA

11-26-12, 2:52pm

Someone is always dumping their junk on our property, since its out in the country. We have tires, mattresses, and now we have a huge old TV that's too hard to even lift.
I wonder if the county highway people would come pick it up?
Dang. I wish I could figure out who owns this garbage and put it back in their yards.
One year, a very stupid person dumped several bags of garbage on our property. He left his mail inside it and I got his name and address. I called my neighbor who was a school bus driver, to ask him about this guy, and he said he was poor and had just gotten evicted from the house he was renting. I ended up just throwing it out myself. But dang......it really pisses me off. They think the country is for dumping animals they don't want and their trash. :devil:

bunnys

11-26-12, 3:19pm

I would have called the police on the guy. Then, word MIGHT have gotten around that people shouldn't use your land as the dump.

But the worst is the dumping of animals. I've always wanted to live in the country. But I don't think I could stand to see what happens to animals (particularly unwanted companion animals) in the country.

artist

11-26-12, 3:53pm

Set up a camera.

Alan

11-26-12, 3:57pm

Some years ago my company was cited for operating an illegal dump somewhere in the middle of Arizona (we're in Ohio). We were cited, and had to pay a substantial portion of the cleanup, because a piece of computer equipment was found with our asset tag on it.

A short time later we initiated an asset disposal program, essentially a database documenting the disposition of every piece of equipment, in order to keep that from happening again.

shadowmoss

11-27-12, 9:49am

Humming Alice's Restaurant...

domestic goddess

11-27-12, 9:58am

Animals aren't only dumped in the country!
My mom lived in a small town, but she wasn't in the country. There was, however a field about a half block away that was for years undeveloped. People used to dump their unwanted animals there, especially cats, and they would invariably find their way to my mom's house, where they could always get something to eat, and a warm place to sleep in the winter (she had dog houses fitted out with blankets, and some with little heating pads). She continued to do this until she just physically couldn't do it anymore, then she expected my brother to do it. Things changed then. We never had trash dumped, but oh, were there animals! Now the field is a sports park, so there is less of that, especially during the summer, when it is in use.

goldensmom

11-27-12, 11:02am

We’ve found many deer carcasses (some with tags still on them), yard waste including big tree branches, tires, fast food wrappings, a bike, a car hood, baby buggy, underwear (??), smashed cement blocks, a cannabis bong, cats, dogs, many other things and there is nothing we can do about it but pick up and dispose of it properly. I asked a state policeman about the deer carcass with the name on it and he said you could maybe get him for littering but it’s not illegal to toss a deer carcass. So annoying.

Mrs-M

11-27-12, 3:37pm

Considering the majority would never do such a thing (littering freely, illegally) speaks volumes as to the intellect of those practicing such.

CathyA

11-27-12, 4:58pm

Yeah, someone threw a deer carcass on our property last year. ***holes.

domestic goddess

11-28-12, 12:01pm

domestic goddess

11-28-12, 12:02pm

I do think disposing of your garbage on other people's land is reprehensible. Can you put up a fence to make it more difficult?

Laser_Cat

11-28-12, 12:11pm

I grew up on a farm and people would drop everything off the side of the road, mattresses, bags of dirty diapers just general trash. They would also drop boxes of puppies and kittens thinking "hey they have a farm, they can take care of them." instead of just getting their animals fixed responsibly =/

As for deer carcasses, I don't understand why people wouldn't eat the deer after killing it. Killing a deer just for the horns seems wrong to me. It's like fining the shark and letting the rest of the animal rot, or killing an elephant for the tusks. If there is anything remaining, after harvesting the hide, meat and horns, burying it would seem like the most responsible thing to do, let it go back to the earth.

goldensmom

11-28-12, 12:22pm

Were these carcasses dumped after being butchered? Sorry to be so morbid, but dsil's family is very interested in killing Bambi. So far, they have posted several pictures of children who have bagged their first deer. Now, I don't really like game, so I find the whole thing disgusting, but I was wondering what happens to the remains of the animals after they are butchered. How do you properly dispose of the remains? Bury them? Burn them? Just something I never knew.

The carcasses dropped on our property look to be partially butchered and not professionally. Birds and small animals eat away until it is gone all except for the bones and hide and that lasts for years. The hunters I know take their deer to a professional butcher who disposes properly of the remains. When I was small and my father and brothers did their own butchering (deer, cattle and pigs) they would bury the remains. The piece of land we live on is a half section so our linear property line is 1-1/2 miles long. We don't even check our non-adjacent properties (farmland/woodland) so who know what we'd find there.

CathyA

11-28-12, 12:54pm

I, too, was referring to butchered carcasses.
We do have a partial fence, but they just throw things over it. I would love to have a 12' high fence on one side of our property, where there is a very rural road. But I don't like fencing wild animals in or out.
The place where they dumped the huge TV was just beside the road in front of our property, in some weeds. I haven't called the county highway department yet, to see if they ever pick these things up. Dh said "you're not supposed to dump those things anymore....you're supposed to recycle them. Let's take it to a recycling place". Forget it!! We're not going to break our backs taking someone's trashed TV anywhere. DH is a big man and he could hardly even move the danged thing a couple inches. I get sooooooooooo infuriated by the jerks that dump.

SteveinMN

11-28-12, 1:12pm

Dh said "you're not supposed to dump those things anymore....you're supposed to recycle them. Let's take it to a recycling place". Forget it!! We're not going to break our backs taking someone's trashed TV anywhere.
To add insult to (potential) injury, at least around here recycling electronics costs money. That's probably why it got dumped on your land in the first place. >:(

domestic goddess

11-28-12, 3:26pm

It is just mind-boggling to me that people would think this is okay to do. My brother, who works for Goodwill, always talks about the people who bring large broken items to them, and then they have to dispose of them. It costs money to take things to the dump, and it is amazing how many people won't pay it. So what mental process tells them that it is okay to dump trash on someone else's property?!
I asked about the deer carcasses because my niece's ex-husband hunts, but they had the meat professionally butchered, so they didn't ever deal with the waste. I just wondered what those who do it themselves do with the parts they can't use.
This is really awful, scummy behavior.

puglogic

11-28-12, 3:39pm

I too wonder about peoples' mental processes sometimes. What kind of mindset does it take to convince yourself it's okay to do this? Or to toss lit cigarette butts out the car window? Or leave beer bottles or dog poop in the middle of a well-used public trail? Or contaminate a water supply by dumping chemicals or used motor oil (or fracking) ? I'm often infuriated by the ignorance of certain members of our species. I have a very calm friend who tries to think up ways to educate people, but I just get too mad. I think of my father's favorite expression, "Stupid ought to hurt."

Blackdog Lin

11-28-12, 9:30pm

Yep, puglogic, "stupid ought to hurt". That's the way it should work.

After 55 years of living amongst the "unwashed", as it were, I have decided to go with "karma. it's a bitch, isn't it?" I have to believe that what goes around comes around. It seldom happens as soon as I'd wish, but I gotta believe it does happen.

I sometimes want to start a thread on eugenics. I don't really believe in this kind of policy, but boy! don't y'a sometimes wish for the human race to propogate their best, instead of mass-quantities of their worst.....

CathyA

11-29-12, 5:40am

Yes Blackdog Lin........I worry about that too. The ignorant disgusting folks seem to be multiplying at an unbelievable rate. Scary.

Zoe Girl

11-29-12, 9:45am

Actually I was thinking about a 'training camp' for life for some people. I am mostly focused on the below 30 group that my daughter belongs to that has no idea how to basically live. Every other month the power turned off or cell phone cancelled, then to see allthe fast food they eat, which relates to this trash topic (they keep it in the apartment as far as I can tell, but I do not go in). I don't think it is an education thing, it is just how some people are but I know many of us are tired of picking up after them in one way or another.

BTW I have a box spring to throw out, it has been stored on my back porch since we decided to get rid of it. But I cannot figure out how to break it down to put into the trash a little every week because of the metal. Any ideas or do I need to go to the dump?

iris lily

11-29-12, 10:10am

Throwing trash on anyone's property is just so wrong. But the whole issue of trash is a PITA. The trash in my garden at one of our little houses, the one in a bad neighborhood, is usually pretty bad. That house is one block from a main street where there are Quick Trips and fast food joints, and trash results form that.

Two of my closer friends have declared that they won't recycle. So the city has mad it as easy as possible with giant recycling dumpsters in our alley, but they cannot be bothered to walk the extra 20 feet to the recycling can, they throw it in a general waste can. It's the same mentality "I am better than you are, I don't have to spend my time/money doing what ht e rest of you do."

ToomuchStuff

12-1-12, 1:14am

BTW I have a box spring to throw out, it has been stored on my back porch since we decided to get rid of it. But I cannot figure out how to break it down to put into the trash a little every week because of the metal. Any ideas or do I need to go to the dump?

First, you need to make sure it really is a box spring. Most these days are just a box. Pull the fabric off as much as you can at a time and place that in the trash (or if in the country that burns fine). Some people save the wood (small projects, jigs, practice pieces) while others just trash or burn it. The spring, if it has one, could be posted on CL for metal recycling (people will pick up metal).

CathyA

12-1-12, 6:41am

Some trash companies will pick up those things. Call and ask if they will. Sometimes larger things cost a little for them to pick up, but it would be worth it.
Also, some charitable places like St. Vincent De Paul will still accept things like that...........although since yours has been on the porch, that might not be a good idea.

puglogic

12-1-12, 9:37am

It's the same mentality "I am better than you are, I don't have to spend my time/money doing what ht e rest of you do."

It's always some kind of "me" thing at work. Sometimes it's "I am better" sometimes it's "I already have enough to worry about (with three kids, my sucky husband, the job I hate, etc)", sometimes it's "I've been through hell in my life, I'm not worrying about this little stuff," sometimes it's just "You can't tell me what to do". Our personalities and values and sometimes even our history come out in what we're willing to do. That's why I think the old "you can't tell a book by its cover" adage is just b.s. sometimes. You often can.

puglogic

12-1-12, 9:40am

Zoe Girl, try these around denver:
http://budswarehouse.org/2012/03/01/mattress-recycling-at-buds-warehouse/
http://www.denver.junkgenius.com/MattressRemoval&Recycling
It changes all the time, so call and see what the deal is.
But taking it apart and breaking it into trash-can sized pieces could be fun and cathartic too! :)