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Tussiemussies
4-6-13, 9:01pm
Hi Mrs. M., I am sure you will enjoy this detailed page about laundry. Scroll down for the diagram and also a diagram of the actual states that do not allow line drying!!!


http://www.hobbyfarms.com/home-and-barn/line-dry-laundry.aspx?cm_mmc=Vanity-_-linedry-_-na-_-van

domestic goddess
4-7-13, 9:31am
There are whole states that do not allow line-drying?!

Mrs-M
4-9-13, 11:28am
Hi, Tussie! Thank you muchly for this!!!

Shame on those States, that do not allow line-drying! People need to start standing up to and rallying against such absurd rules and measures. We need to make out voices heard. Bullying people around is so wrong, but even more wrong is bullying people around without just cause.

Sure, if clothesline drying was detrimental to people's health, then absolutely, that would be time enough to review the case against line-drying, but we're talking about something that is nature and free, so fundamentally, IMO, there is no legal ground or case against people wanting practice solar-drying, and it's high-time we let it be known!

It's bullying, plain and simple.

Gregg
4-9-13, 12:44pm
The anarchist in me just couldn't stand to not string a line if it were banned.

Tussiemussies
4-9-13, 4:46pm
Hi, Tussie! Thank you muchly for this!!!

Shame on those States, that do not allow line-drying! People need to start standing up to and rallying against such absurd rules and measures. We need to make out voices heard. Bullying people around is so wrong, but even more wrong is bullying people around without just cause.

Sure, if clothesline drying was detrimental to people's health, then absolutely, that would be time enough to review the case against line-drying, but we're talking about something that is nature and free, so fundamentally, IMO, there is no legal ground or case against people wanting practice solar-drying, and it's high-time we let it be known!

It's bullying, plain and simple.

You know Mrs. M. You are exactly right! It's a form of discrimination and bullying.

I want to put one one but our back yard side is seen from the street.

Hope the neighbors won't mind...

sweetana3
4-9-13, 5:11pm
We live in a downtown area of a city of 1 million. Just saw a neighbor had hung laundry from a telephone pole to their second floor window. No worry about anyone stealing the clothes but it is right next to an interstate and the air is gritty. Don't know how clean the clothes will be. They looked like large flags flying and was kind of funny.

Don't know how they strung the lines. Someone had to climb that pole.

Jilly
4-9-13, 5:21pm
I live in one of the states that is not listed as allowing line drying of clothes, or anything else, I guess.

However, I cannot think of any place or area in my state where line drying is prohibited or controlled or managed. None. Even in the very rich suburbs near one of the largest cities, line drying is perfectly welcome, which I know because my best friend lives there and I just called and asked her. She does line dry, but was not sure if there were community regulations were (lives in a gated community,with an HOA, and no one has ever said or mentioned anything to her), so she said she would check and call back. There are no restrictions on line drying.

I live in one of the medium sized cities and anyone can hang anything they like. I do not because there is not any space on this property to do so. I hang on racks inside.

My thoughts are that restrictions or bans on line drying is not discrimination or bullying or elitism or anything else along those lines. If line drying is important to someone, then that person should make sure that it is allowed before they move to wherever they think about moving. If you do not like the community stuff, I guess you could call it standards or something, then do not live there. It seems so simple, but I am pretty simple-minded so it is likely that I do not get what the problem is.

To my thinking, it is no different than any other thing someone wants to do on their property, owned or rented. Chickens and/or other livestock are not permitted everywhere. Lots of apartments do not allow pets over a certain weight. Outbuildings are regulated or banned in many places, although that is probably mostly related to zoning laws rather than neighborhood or community standards. If I want to live most places, urban as I am now and mostly-country as I lived until last year, lawn areas had to have perennial plantings or lawns that must be kept to a certain height. Sign regulations is another area for business owners. I think, if you do not like the regulations, work to change them, as the chances are excellent that there are other people wanting the same things or practices that we want. A few chickens would greatly enhance and support my health, but they are not allowed here. It would be very easy to keep a couple and no one would be the wiser, but my anarchist tendencies are vastly under-developed.

It is also kind of interesting that there is space here to hide chickens, but not to hang clothes. Weird.

Mrs-M
4-9-13, 6:19pm
Tussie. Full-fill your dream and put a clothesline up! To heck with your neighbours... Honestly, if your neighbours stand as being any sort of good-standing people, they won't bat-an-eye over a clothesline rising in the hood. And, if you find a neighbour or two who takes exception to it, ignore them.

Good medicine for such would be, confronting the huffing and puffing party(ies) with the likes of, "since when were you in charge of laundry in MY home"? Or, "for sure, if you are willing to pick-up the tab for our electric bill each month, then by all means, I'll forgo the drying-line". I think that sort of thing would quickly extinguish pouters on the spot, as would dressing the line with a long string of unmentionables!

Mrs-M
4-9-13, 6:25pm
Sweetana3. While I fancy the homeowners creative side, utilizing private property IMO isn't a wise choice.

Jilly. So petty, isn't it. Almost childish in the sense.

One family we know has a really narrow lot, so there isn't room to go outward with a clothesline, so instead, they went perpendicular with their home, and wow... does it ever serve as the ticket!

Mrs-M
4-9-13, 6:43pm
Oh, and Tussie... if you do put up a clothesline, do a double! So convenient... so extra handy!

Jilly
4-9-13, 7:54pm
...Jilly. So petty, isn't it. Almost childish in the sense. ...

I agree, all of it is petty. I believe that everyone should do whatever they can to be an excellent steward of their resources, and part of that includes being a good example.

Still, I totally understand zoning and other regulations. And, after nearly thirty years (and counting) of urban and rural animal welfare and rescue work, I am in agreement with some of the restrictions on chicken rearing. I have way too much experience taking care of neglected fowl, many of whom were too far gone to save.

It is important to work for these kinds of change.

Mrs-M
4-9-13, 8:01pm
How right you are, Jilly, and silly, petty rules and regulations Re: natural choices that are readily available to us is so asinine.

P.S. Been meaning to compliment you on your avatar! The Carina Nebula, one of my favourites!

Mrs-M
4-9-13, 8:12pm
To add... there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with society today, where people feel the need (and feel they have the right) to rob and dampen both the spirits and rights of others... and such trivial, innocent, and non-harmful things at that. Pathetic. Doesn't say a lot about values today, does it.

As you've all probably already guessed, the likes of this issue chaps my behind.

Tussiemussies
4-9-13, 9:22pm
To add... there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with society today, where people feel the need (and feel they have the right) to rob and dampen both the spirits and rights of others... and such trivial, innocent, and non-harmful things at that. Pathetic. Doesn't say a lot about values today, does it.

As you've all probably already guessed, the likes of this issue chaps my behind.

Mrs. M so sorry that this post has upset you....

ToomuchStuff
4-9-13, 10:57pm
Been off the site for a while, due to some family in the hospital stuff, then the bosses, lost two family members and more hours at work while they were taking care of things. But used the down time around the house, instead of online (a better thing).

I am missing something here, as I don't see any color listed on the diagram, as states, outlawing line drying. Since blue isn't marked at all I am wondering if there was an assumption of it being the one?

Tussiemussies
4-9-13, 11:11pm
Too much, I am so sorry for what you have been going through. It must be a very difficult time. My prayers are with you and glad you used your down time to stay at home. Maybe it was nurturing for you...


As far as the diagram goes, I have to look at it again. Did you scroll all the way down to the bottom? There is a color indicator for the map on the bottom right side....

ToomuchStuff
4-9-13, 11:39pm
Too much, I am so sorry for what you have been going through. It must be a very difficult time. My prayers are with you and glad you used your down time to stay at home. Maybe it was nurturing for you...


As far as the diagram goes, I have to look at it again. Did you scroll all the way down to the bottom? There is a color indicator for the map on the bottom right side....

Yes, I did. It mentions right to dry, and solar access state, which make HOA bans illegal. Nothing is said about the color blue, or states outlawing clotheslines.

Tussiemussies
4-10-13, 3:29pm
Yes, I did. It mentions right to dry, and solar access state, which make HOA bans illegal. Nothing is said about the color blue, or states outlawing clotheslines.


Hi too much,

On the diagram, look on the very top of it, it has fine print there and see if it makes any sense.....

Spartana
4-10-13, 9:33pm
The anarchist in me just couldn't stand to not string a line if it were banned.

Me too! I hate doing laundry and line drying but would do it everyday in protest. I can see banning it in an apt or condo complex or in the front yard, but in your own private space? No way!

chrissieq
4-10-13, 9:47pm
We have had a clothesline for years and my neighbor several years ago told me that she and her husband pulled out their pole because they found it "(slight pause) tacky". Needless to say, I make sure I always say hello when my clothes are line drying.

Is there anything better than getting into bed with freshly line dried sheets? Not in my world!

awakenedsoul
4-11-13, 11:42am
I purposely chose a area to buy a cottage where there is no HOA. I put up a double clothesline in my backyard. I love it! I rarely use my dryer. Same thing with chickens...there was already a coop here when I bought the place. It's made of recycled French doors and windows. It's really cute. Next week I'm having the house painted. I'm going with salmon with white trim. I like living somewhere where I can make artistic choices: a colorful house, a cottage garden in front, and a driveway lined with sunflowers.
But, a lot of the people here have gone overboard with their rulebreaking lifestyle. They've built illegal free standing structures and are renting them out. Or, they have 10 junked out cars parked in their front yard. We have some old West types here. I have called code enforcement when it's made my life miserable. I'm glad we have some restrictions to keep the neighborhood clean and peaceful.

Mrs-M
4-11-13, 12:19pm
Mrs. M so sorry that this post has upset you....Not at all, Tussie. Thread topics such as this remind me of how fortunate I am to do whatever I want to do, without restrictions. Additionally, topics like this are good food for thought, because they help one exercise their brain-power, and with expended brain-power comes ideas and solutions to such childish bureaucracy.

Float On
4-11-13, 12:20pm
I've been on a mission to collect old family photos of clothes lines through the years. Want to hang some in my laundry room. I love a clothes line but my husband doesn't like me hanging things out to dry, he says the pollen gets to him.



Same thing with chickens...there was already a coop here when I bought the place. It's made of recycled French doors and windows. It's really cute. .

I'd love to see a photo of your coop - sounds wonderful. We use to have a little coffee shop in town called 'The French Hen' and that'd make a wonderful name for a coop made out of French doors.

Mrs-M
4-11-13, 12:55pm
Chrissieq. Clothesline (for years) at our house, too! Never would have entertained the idea/thought of being without one, especially having used cloth diapers. And yes... line-dried bedding, pure heaven!

Awakenedsoul. Your French glass door coop sounds delightful!

Tussiemussies
4-11-13, 2:59pm
Hi awakenedsoul, just love the idea of your cottage, salmon with white sounds so great and with all the flowers it should be so nice. Where I once lived I loved this old house that was painted almost a light aqua with dark green trim and their front garden was just beautiful. I think I liked that house because it wasn't cookie cutter at all.

We had painted our house a salmon once but it was a medium salmon with a little more brown in it and we had brown shutters and a brown arbor at the yard entrance with a vine of purple sweet pea growing up the arbor. I have so many good memories of that house.

Well good luck with yours. Let us know how it all turns out! PS what type of sunflowers do you have?

Tussiemussies
4-11-13, 3:00pm
Not at all, Tussie. Thread topics such as this remind me of how fortunate I am to do whatever I want to do, without restrictions. Additionally, topics like this are good food for thought, because they help one exercise their brain-power, and with expended brain-power comes ideas and solutions to such childish bureaucracy.


Glad you are okay with it all!

awakenedsoul
4-11-13, 6:12pm
Thanks tussiemussies, Mrs. M. and FloatOn! Wow, I didn't realize how many typos I had in my last post. I'm glad we can correct them after the fact. The old owner built the coop himself. He did a beautiful job. Everybody loves it, (including my chicken.) I don't know how to post photos, sorry. I've really got to get with it with technology. The hen house has an old fashioned porch swing. I can sit there, listen to my 15 year old chicken, Jillian, and look at my orchard and vegetable garden.
I've got my purple sheets hanging out to dry on my clothesline right now...

When I first bought my house I painted it pale lavender with white trim and a whlte fence. Unfortunately the sun faded it and it looked grey. The next time I painted it yellow with white trim, (The chicken coop matches it.) Very cute and cheerful. I'm a little nervous about salmon, but I loved that color when I used it on the interior of my ballet studio. I plant Russian giant sunflowers. I'm going to put some Cinderella pumpkins in the front yard, too. I love how they look with all the flowers. Very fairy tale like...

ToomuchStuff
4-11-13, 6:27pm
There are whole states that do not allow line-drying?!

This is what made me think there was a comment about states, outlawing line drying. I went back through this (reading at night can be problematic), and found no response to this.


Hi too much,

On the diagram, look on the very top of it, it has fine print there and see if it makes any sense.....

It makes sense in the way it is written, not in the context I read it at night (aka, see the diagram about states, that outlaw line drying).
Unfortunately, night time (close to bed) seems to be the most effective and least time wasting time, for the internet (verses daytime, get stuff done, activities).

Jilly
4-11-13, 11:56pm
Hi, Jillian!!!!

Mrs-M
4-14-13, 8:10am
Originally posted by Awakenedsoul.
Wow, I didn't realize how many typos I had in my last post.Ahhh... I'm in good company! P.S. Got a great mental image of your purple sheets hang-drying!