Indiana voting whether to change the constitution to ban same sex marriage.........

[CathyA]

Waiting to hear how the vote goes tonight. This state is just too red.

[gimmethesimplelife]

I don't know that such a vote, if successful, necessarily carries much weight in this day and age. A Federal judge could overturn such an amendment I believe (?) as has happened in Oklahoma - didn't they have such a ban in their state constitution? That having been said, I once almost moved to Indianapolis when I was much younger. I missed the change of seasons and the rent at the time in Indy was very cheap.

What stopped me was how red the state is - I had had enough of this in Arizona and at the time, I was just starting to appreciate the fact that I was so close to Mexico and wasn't sure that was an asset I should be parting with. But if Indiana were more liberal I might just have moved there. Rob

[Spartana]

In Calif, when they first made same-sex marriage legal, the voters put a proposition (Prop. 8) on the ballot to over turn it. Prop 8 passed and so same sex marriage was again banned. However proponents of same sex marriage went to court and had Prop 8 declared invalid and unconstitutional (after much back and forth and forth and back :-)!). So that may be the similar path if IN takes the voters vote against same sex marriage being legal.

[bae]

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Seems simple enough.

Also so:

"Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof."

A non-cowardly Congress and President could simply fix this issue.

[creaker]

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Seems simple enough.

Also so:

"Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof."

A non-cowardly Congress and President could simply fix this issue.

Unfortunately even for interracial marriage it took the courts to do it.

[JaneV2.0]

Universal same-sex marriage is all but inevitable, it seems to me. I wouldn't want to be on the side of denying citizens' equal rights, but some seem to feel they can parse these kinds of things.

[lac]

Indiana is such an embarrassing state to live in. Before we considered moving here, we were told it was good thing we were white people because not much else is tolerated here. We were also told not to make friends with black people because it would be held against us. Now that we've been here a few years, I'm hesitant to tell anyone where I live because it's like traveling back in time (and it's not a good time period). Looking forward to the day when we can move away from the backwards way of life.

[CathyA]

Yep....that's Indiana........in oh, so many ways. :(

[bUU]

Unfortunately even for interracial marriage it took the courts to do it.Precisely.