Close the forum and just forward the trraffic

[Yossarian]

To MMM http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/forum/index.php

This is my last post about the good ole days here, but there is now way more badassity over there.

[redfox]

Enjoy.

[Gardenarian]

Sorry to see you go!

[iris lilies]

To MMM http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/forum/index.php

This is my last post about the good ole days here, but there is now way more badassity over there.

Hey Yo, I've had the same thought. It's a lively place. They even talk about YMOYL.

[pinkytoe]

Been lurking there for several years and enjoy some of the blog posts and the forums. The cavileer attitude gets a little annoying sometimes but I guess that's just simplicity with testosterone added.

[Kestra]

It's definitely busy there but I really don't like the face-punchy attitude. Too many people thinking everything should be done the same way, and godforbid you disagree. I like the variety of views I get here better.

[catherine]

I'm also on Dave Ramsey's Total Money Makeover forum, and the people are totally into it, but pretty superficial. While I think if we all got together in person we'd have a really great, great discussion and debate, not sure I could say the same about that group. I don't know quite enough about MMM. I do really like his blog, but am not familiar enough with the community.

Also, both the TMMO forum and the MMM forum focus is on money--our forum is on simple living in broader terms. But to each his own. I've been on this forum off and on for probably almost 10 years and I just am comfy here.

[Tiam]

Hey Yo, I've had the same thought. It's a lively place. They even talk about YMOYL.

I'll have to recheck. Whenever I'm there it's pretty repetitive and dull. Maybe it's improved.

[rosarugosa]

I don't see any reason why it has to be an either/or situation. I like the conversational tone and more personal feeling of SLF, and this is my primary online "home." But I also consider the MMM forums a good place to exchange information. If I have a very specific financial question, I'll sometimes post it in both places.

[Rogar]

Stop by and visit Yo. Hope you will show them your charts on global warming.

I used to read MMM occasionally and probably will still. It is basically all about money. It can get a little snippy. This forum is about the philosophy and mechanics of simple living. That is the difference and I don't see them as too much duplication. I do wish we had more traffic here and some new visitors, but I enjoy it.

[Float On]

Not enjoying "badassity", "snippy", "superficial", "cavalier ", or "face-punchy"..... I'm happy to stay here.

[mtnlaurel]

Get on with yo' ol' badassity self then! (that's just me being ridiculous BTW... I'll miss you around here, Yossarian, I liked reading what you had to bring to the table)

I went over there to MMM & quickly browsed forum headings, the mustache imagery wasn't working for me, as I'm doing everything I can to avoid my own mustache these days. (Thank goodness it's light blonde, so maintenance is simple)

I'm actually enjoying SLF boards more & more for their mellow nature - when I first started lurking around here in 2000 I wouldn't dare stick my neck out as folks could get awfully shi**y over simplicity. (Enter Salad Spinner joke here)
I have enough conflict/controversy in my real life & come here to get away from it a bit & see what like-minded, yet all very different folks are up to.

I read the following in my late 20's/early 30s: YMOYL, TightWad Gazette, ChopWood,CarryWater, SimpleLivingGuinle (Janet Luhrs) then later Clearing your Clutter with Feng Shui (Karen Kingston)
Those books (supported by this forum) set me on a trajectory that have saved my hide over & over & over again.

I'm happy here, but am glad to learn about other forums too.

[gimmethesimplelife]

Not enjoying "badassity", "snippy", "superficial", "cavalier ", or "face-punchy"..... I'm happy to stay here.Ditto here. Rob

[pinkytoe]

MMM forum focus is on money--our forum is on simple living in broader terms.
Both forums have their pluses and minuses but I always think of this one as having a heart. MMM would probably go nowhere without their fearless leader whereas this one is more of a community effort.

[JaneV2.0]

I just have to say that "face-punchy" is my new favorite descriptor.

[Tiam]

Personally, I find the "badassity" over there annoying and boring. It's very look at me and up in your face and doesn't really seem to be as welcoming as this place is. I have a membership there, and yet, I am posting here.

[Rogar]

Not enjoying "badassity", "snippy", "superficial", "cavalier ", or "face-punchy"..... I'm happy to stay here.

:)

I think "badassity" is the one that got me running away. There are some pretty good articles there, IMHO. I can't say the same for the forums. I have the feeling, also, that MMM is making a small living off his web site, although his use of ads is fairly tasteful. If I have it right the SLF is basically financed through a non-profit and through donations from members. That is an important difference to me.

[Tiam]

SLF's non profit base is fine. Using his forum to create revenue doesn't bother me in the least.

[SteveinMN]

I think "badassity" is the one that got me running away. There are some pretty good articles there, IMHO. I can't say the same for the forums.
+1. I'm not sure there ever was a stage in my life during which I felt I needed to approach the world in a plums-out swagger. And I don't find it terribly interesting in others -- particularly since so much of the swagger is superficial.

[Teacher Terry]

I sometimes enjoy reading it but much of the advice is the same: cut cable, bicycle, sell your cars, etc. Also I have to say that I am somewhat suspicious that most of the people that post there are really living on such a small amount of $ especially with families. Then they say things like "I am living extravagantly."
Well not really.

[redfox]

Agreed, Terry. It's called humble bragging. I find it supercilious and arrogant.

[iris lilies]

Agreed, Terry. It's called humble bragging. I find it supercilious and arrogant.

My freinds call it "reverse snobbery" when I talk about not having cable teevee. They can call me out on it, it's ok, we are friends.

[lhamo]

I enjoy both this site and the MMM forums, as well as the early retirement forums. Slightly different crowd/tone in all three places, and a few of us show up in all three from time to time. One thing I do like a LOT about the MMM forums is the opportunity to help people figure out where they can cut down on unnecessary spending. Those "facepunches" are another word for tough love, and it changes people's lives. Helping people break out of a cycle of self- and social-justification of behaviors that are undermining them (whether related to finances, diet, physical activity, etc.) is something that I really value. I have made some good friends here and on the MMM forums as a result of being there frequently. I actually just got reconnected to someone who used to post here several years ago via MMM -- that was so exciting!

[Tiam]

Stop by and visit Yo. Hope you will show them your charts on global warming.

I used to read MMM occasionally and probably will still. It is basically all about money. It can get a little snippy. This forum is about the philosophy and mechanics of simple living. That is the difference and I don't see them as too much duplication. I do wish we had more traffic here and some new visitors, but I enjoy it.


My thinking is that if there were a bit more "Frugality" themes included, (such as the prepper forum idea) we might get more traffic. People would come for their interest and then stay and chat. Just a thought.

[Polliwog]

+1. I'm not sure there ever was a stage in my life during which I felt I needed to approach the world in a plums-out swagger. And I don't find it terribly interesting in others -- particularly since so much of the swagger is superficial.

Totally +1

[rodeosweetheart]

Redfox: "Agreed, Terry. It's called humble bragging. I find it supercilious and arrogant."

I like to call it "boast honking." As in "the humblest man in the room and proud of it."

I tried MMM once because the topics are very interesting, but the attitude was very strange--in one post, the leader or maybe Mrs. Leader as he calls her (ugh) was complaining that they went to visit the parents and the parents had the audacity to take the kids out to Dairy Queen, thus wasting 6 dollars or something.

some of my happiest family memories will probably always be going to Dairy Queen, and I can remember when it cost a nickel to buy an ice cream cone (and getting the ice cream cone the same place my Granddad bought my mom an ice cream cone in the height of the Depression.)

So not sure I agree with the priorities there. If you can;'t buy your grandchild an ice cream cone, than what is money for?

[JaneV2.0]

Redfox: "Agreed, Terry. It's called humble bragging. I find it supercilious and arrogant."

I like to call it "boast honking." As in "the humblest man in the room and proud of it."

I tried MMM once because the topics are very interesting, but the attitude was very strange--in one post, the leader or maybe Mrs. Leader as he calls her (ugh) was complaining that they went to visit the parents and the parents had the audacity to take the kids out to Dairy Queen, thus wasting 6 dollars or something.

some of my happiest family memories will probably always be going to Dairy Queen, and I can remember when it cost a nickel to buy an ice cream cone (and getting the ice cream cone the same place my Granddad bought my mom an ice cream cone in the height of the Depression.)

So not sure I agree with the priorities there. If you can;'t buy your grandchild an ice cream cone, than what is money for?

Exactly. You can be frugal without being a fanatic. Even if you're destitute, you should be able to eke out a little pleasure in life from time to time--even if it costs you a dollar or two. Holier than thou types are best avoided.

[SteveinMN]

Exactly. You can be frugal without being a fanatic. Even if you're destitute, you should be able to eke out a little pleasure in life from time to time--even if it costs you a dollar or two. Holier than thou types are best avoided.
There is no fervor like that of the newly converted.

[pinkytoe]

My thinking is that if there were a bit more "Frugality" themes included, (such as the prepper forum idea) we might get more traffic.
I also think the forum topics could be worked on to bring in more traffic. I wonder what a newcomer thinks when they first come here as much of the conversation is off-topic (which I love) and might might feel non-inclusive.

[catherine]

I also think the forum topics could be worked on to bring in more traffic. I wonder what a newcomer thinks when they first come here as much of the conversation is off-topic (which I love) and might might feel non-inclusive.

I agree, to an extent.. But Simple Living is not just frugality--it's a lifestyle for some, a philosophy of life for some, a spiritual practice for some, an economic paradigm for some, a way to "retire" for some; a political statement for some.

As for some of the newcomers: how did you find us? What attracted you to us? What were you hoping to find? What are you finding most valuable? And how do you think we can attract more like you? Some of us have been around for a long time and sometimes that makes us a little myopic and cloistered from the outside world.

[Gardenarian]

But Simple Living is not just frugality--it's a lifestyle for some, a philosophy of life for some, a spiritual practice for some, an economic paradigm for some, a way to "retire" for some; a political statement for some.


Yes, this. It's not all about the money. I think MMM is a fun writer and like his blog, but there are others that speak more to me - Raptitude (http://www.raptitude.com/) is one - and I don't want to spend time on more than one forum. I like actually getting to know the people here and feeling like they are my friends.

The traffic here is in a real slowdown, which is a little sad, but there are too many people and threads over there.

[Kestra]

There is no fervor like that of the newly converted.

A good point. I definitely get the same vibe from the MMM forums as I get from new vegetarians/vegans.

I generally like Mr. MM's posts and his attitude, but the forums seem to have taken on a life of their own that doesn't necessarily seem to match Mr. MM's own viewpoint.

[rosarugosa]

I wonder how many newcomers get frightened off by the virus warnings? Or should we be glad the warnings keep out the riffraff? :)

[Sparrow]

I read MMM sometimes but then get burned out and leave it for a while. My favorite posts are actually the ones where people post their budgets and get "face punched." The biggest downside for me is that a lot of the posters seem to be much younger than me ( I'm 49) and in a different phase of their life.

[Tiam]

To MMM http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/forum/index.php

This is my last post about the good ole days here, but there is now way more badassity over there.

Perhaps this is a post about the goood old days, but those good old days aren't over there either.

[rosarugosa]

Gardenarian: Thanks for the Raptitude link!