Trumps: White Angry Middleclass

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Originally Posted by Alan

Well, due process is what separates a Republic from a Democracy. The fabled 'Tyranny of the Majority' being the natural result. I honestly don't understand why people can't, or won't, grasp the concept.

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That's what I like about our system. All the strange rules, traditions, checks and balances that tie us up in knots and frustrate the folks pushing the current fashion in what's good for us. That's my primary reason for hope in the current electoral cycle.

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Originally Posted by Alan

According to Hillary and the vast majority of the Democratic Party, Yes, although that's where the saving grace of due process historically comes into play.
Her guilt or innocence has nothing to do with my wish to deny her power. It's fear of how she has indicated she would use it.

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Wasn't written well enough to separate the two.
Now with how much I have heard about Hillary being a liar (or other things), I understand the fear, but have to wonder how much of her "indications" if smoke, mirrors or other lies.

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Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff

Now with how much I have heard about Hillary being a liar (or other things), I understand the fear, but have to wonder how much of her "indications" if smoke, mirrors or other lies.

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"When people show you who they are, believe them..." ~ Maya Angelou

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Originally Posted by Teacher Terry

I will vote for Hillary because a write in is a wasted vote and Trump would be far worse and unthinkable.

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The whole "wasted-vote" narrative is one that I will not buy into. It's constructed to channel thought and action, maintain the status quo, and to discourage thoughtful and effective participation in civic life.

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Originally Posted by Alan

"When people show you who they are, believe them..." ~ Maya Angelou

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What do you do when they lecture you on inequality in a $12,000 Armani jacket?

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

What do you do when they lecture you on inequality in a $12,000 Armani jacket?

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You took the words right out of my son's mouth--that's exactly what he said to me this weekend.

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Originally Posted by bae

The whole "wasted-vote" narrative is one that I will not buy into. It's constructed to channel thought and action, maintain the status quo, and to discourage thoughtful and effective participation in civic life.

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I would normally agree with the wasted vote theory or the a vote for X is really a vote for Y theory based on an assessment of the desirability of the most likely outcomes. However this year, given that the two most probable outcomes seem equally poisonous, I'm going to vote in such a way that, while it won't prevent the coming vileness will at least register a protest for future reference with the political system.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

What do you do when they lecture you on inequality in a $12,000 Armani jacket?

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Remember.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I would normally agree with the wasted vote theory or the a vote for X is really a vote for Y theory based on an assessment of the desirability of the most likely outcomes. However this year, given that the two most probable outcomes seem equally poisonous, I'm going to vote in such a way that, while it won't prevent the coming vileness will at least register a protest for future reference with the political system.

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It's a games-theory problem, a modification of the classic prisoner's dilemma. If we each choose to "cooperate", we can elect someone great, but who "has no chance". If instead we "defect", we end up with the lesser of two evils.

The rational move is to cooperate, but people aren't rational.

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Originally Posted by Alan

Remember.

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But there's so much to remember. The disappearing documents. The uncanny futures trading acumen. The braving of the Bosnian bullets. The Cheshire-cat emails. Wall Street story time. The wonderfully authentic accents. I can't keep it all straight.