Conavirus......

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Originally Posted by happystuff

I think that some people deserve special privileges, but there are others who are just angry and self-involved. Makes me appreciate this quote:

“I started learning how to not be so angry about things, learning how to count my f—ing blessings instead. By doing that, I’ve become a happier person, instead of all this self-loathing I was doing for a while.” – Eminem

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You can have righteous indignation that is not self-loathing.

Here's another song reference:

"Get up, stand up.
Stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up
Don't give up the fight."

Sung by Bob Marley

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Originally Posted by Yppej

The mandate ended in the beginning of the summer because the governor of Utah pointed out to Biden there was no incentive to get vaccinated since vaccinated people still had to wear masks.

So according to your logic the government officials are stupid because they are making the same mistake a second time of putting mask mandates in place that disincentivize vaccination. Maybe the governor of Utah needs to remind them again as they have lost all common sense.

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I guess for some people not dying isn’t a good enough reason.

Reminds me of a song. https://youtu.be/8L6KGuTr9TI

NPR had an article today that reinforced what I was thinking in an earlier post. That there has been a lot of effort to emphasize the risk of being unvaccinated, but the information on breakthroughs is insufficient. I actually consider it a failure of the institutions who track data to help with decisions among us vaccinated folk.

The article is called, "I got a mild breakthrough case. Here's what I wish I'd known." The article explains how the delta variant has changed the ballgame for breakthrough infections, and that the risk of symptomatic infection seems higher than common media information. One of the academic experts called our data analysis "shoddy", and much of what we know comes from other countries. They do say that the risk of being sent to the hospital is very rare, but the gaps in formation is a little disturbing.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-wish-id-known

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Originally Posted by Rogar

NPR had an article today that reinforced what I was thinking in an earlier post. That there has been a lot of effort to emphasize the risk of being unvaccinated, but the information on breakthroughs is insufficient. I actually consider it a failure of the institutions who track data to help with decisions among us vaccinated folk.

The article is called, "I got a mild breakthrough case. Here's what I wish I'd known." The article explains how the delta variant has changed the ballgame for breakthrough infections, and that the risk of symptomatic infection seems higher than common media information. One of the academic experts called our data analysis "shoddy", and much of what we know comes from other countries. They do say that the risk of being sent to the hospital is very rare, but the gaps in formation is a little disturbing.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-wish-id-known

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I read the article and I am willing to risk a case like the author had rather than wear a mask the rest of my life.

It should be my choice.

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Originally Posted by jp1

I guess for some people not dying isn’t a good enough reason.

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Some people would rather risk death than let the government tell them what to do.

Reminds me of a saying - "Today is a good day to die."

And another one - "Give me liberty or give me death."

Or "Live free or die."

And yet they probably let their boss tell them what to do all day long. I call such people ridiculous fools.

I mean I understand feeling suicidal "today is a good day to die", I don't think people with suicide ideation are ridiculous fools. I think they are suffering, that is all.

I wouldn't call either Crazy Horse or Low Dog suicidal.

And you are going to appropriate that for "white people whine about masks"

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Originally Posted by happystuff

I think that some people deserve special privileges, but there are others who are just angry and self-involved. Makes me appreciate this quote:

“I started learning how to not be so angry about things, learning how to count my f—ing blessings instead. By doing that, I’ve become a happier person, instead of all this self-loathing I was doing for a while.” – Eminem

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Good quote...

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

And you are going to appropriate that for "white people whine about masks"

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The context is anti-vaxers not wanting to get the shot, not anti-maskers.

I transported an 80-year-old patient to the mainland the other day for essential life-saving surgery. Surgery went fine, both legs were saved, and they'll walk again, and likely live productively for years more.

When I went to return the patient to the island by ferry, post-op, I had reservations on the state ferry system for the journey, and a medical priority loading certificate.

I arrived well-ahead of the scheduled sailing at around noon. The boat was scheduled to leave at about 12:45pm. Well, some of the fine employees of the Washington State Ferry system had decided to stage a sick-out, on 9/10 and 9/11, to protest the vaccination requirement that the State has issued for this class of transport workers.

So, my patient, and about a dozen others, did not arrive home until noon. The NEXT BLOODY DAY. They waited, stuck at the ferry terminal, while the chaos unfolded, as boat after boat got cancelled as crews failed to show up, or walked out. For some of these patients, mine included, this was life threatening.

At the ferry landing on my island on the other end, hundreds of people were stranded overnight, with no food, water, shelter. Our local fire/EMS agency and several social services agencies had to respond to the ferry landing to provide support.

My patience has run out.

A lot of people's patience has run out. I talked with the guy who cut my hair today. He came to the salon because at his previous job all the employees got vaccinated but the owners refused to. Then they mandated that the employees all wear masks to protect them, so he quit. This "your vaccines don't matter you still have to mask up to protect anti-vaxxers" is exactly the policy of my city and it's not fair.

Here are the facts.

1. With school underway outbreaks are still occurring in schools with mask mandates because masks don't stop covid.
2. These outbreaks are not making children seriously ill or in many cases ill at all.
3. The outbreaks are detrimental to unvaccinated adults.

An example is the Miami-Dade public schools where an outbreak killed 13 people. None were children. All were teachers or other staff who refused to get vaccinated.

People are sick and tired of not being able to get back to normal because the government only cares about the anti-vaxxers and doesn't give a s*** about the people who followed public health guidance and got vaccinated. As a result I am hearing more and more people saying they won't get boosters. We are living in an idiotocracy.

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Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore

I understand feeling suicidal "today is a good day to die", I don't think people with suicide ideation are ridiculous fools. I think they are suffering, that is all.

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"Today is a good day to die" isn't suicidal. It's what you say as you're going into battle. It means "I'm going to fight like hell to stay alive and kill my enemies, and if I die in the process, this is a good day to do it."

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Originally Posted by GeorgeParker

"Today is a good day to die" isn't suicidal. It's what you say as you're going into battle.

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It's generally the sort of thing people who see too many movies say.

In my business, we say" Omnis Cedo Domus" though.

If people want to try to impress others with dead languages, maybe they should first get the grammar of them down:

https://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_...omus'_mean

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Originally Posted by Yppej

If people want to try to impress others with dead languages, maybe they should first get the grammar of them down:

https://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_...omus'_mean

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I did not come up with the translation, Yppej. It is however what is printed on the shields.... I suspect the fellow who got it put there nationwide was not a Latin scholar.

How many burning buildings do you run into each year, btw?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjOfQfxmTLQ

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Originally Posted by bae

How many burning buildings do you run into each year, btw?

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I do have a burn mark on my arm as we speak, from serving others by making popcorn. It is something I did not have to do but volunteered for at work. Everyone was so happy when they could get vaccinated and they all said covid was over. We started providing food and beverages again to those in our essential industry.

If you're vaccinated covid is medically over, but in civil liberties terms it's still not over due to tyrants who like to use pseudo emergencies to make themselves feel important. In my area we have ample hospital capacity, PPE, vaccines, and monoclonal antibody treatments. The "emergency" is fabricated.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

If you're vaccinated covid is medically over, ...The "emergency" is fabricated.

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Wrong.

bae, she will not believe anything until she actually catches covid in any of its changing forms. And even then... maybe not.

razz had the right idea with a time-out. The Simple Living forum is slowly turning into a Yppej's rant against everyone and everything forum. Most threads are not fun reads any longer. Hopefully time will change things - who knows.

Blessings to all. And, no, I'm not being "run off" - I'll be around. :)

From tonight's news - some hospitals are no longer delivering babies because so many nurses have quit rather than get vaccinated.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

From tonight's news - some hospitals are no longer delivering babies because so many nurses have quit rather than get vaccinated.

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They probably picked the wrong career.

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Originally Posted by jp1

They probably picked the wrong career.

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I had that same thought. I know the media sometimes try to characterize the vaccine noncompliant as red state rustics, but people of color and PhDs also seem to be among the reluctant. But you would expect the medically trained to be among the least resistant.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I had that same thought. I know the media sometimes try to characterize the vaccine noncompliant as red state rustics, but people of color and PhDs also seem to be among the reluctant. But you would expect the medically trained to be among the least resistant.

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Tons of people of color in the Chicago area have gotten sick/died from Covid, yet they keep mentioning they don’t want to get vaxxed due to a history of colored folks being guinea pigs for medical experiments. And a lot of them are apparently nursing home workers or home health aids.

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Originally Posted by LDAHL

I had that same thought. I know the media sometimes try to characterize the vaccine noncompliant as red state rustics, but people of color and PhDs also seem to be among the reluctant. But you would expect the medically trained to be among the least resistant.

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They probably ARE as a whole population better vaccinated, but outliers exist.

My brother who is in respiratory therapy management has had three vaccines so far. He dares to speak an occasional calm truth about media frenzied reports that are politically motivated. He was Timed-out on Facebook, shockingly, some time ago when FB made their big sweep of the politically incorrect.

This is a guy who speaks calmly and rationally, but has the Wrong point of view about many things.

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Originally Posted by Tradd

Tons of people of color in the Chicago area have gotten sick/died from Covid, yet they keep mentioning they don’t want to get vaxxed due to a history of colored folks being guinea pigs for medical experiments. And a lot of them are apparently nursing home workers or home health aids.

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I keep seeing this marriage of MAGA hat wearers and black folks as a new episode of “Black Jeopardy, with Tom Hanks” on Saturday Night Live. It would fall into the “They be Sayin’” category for $600

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Originally Posted by iris lilies

I keep seeing this marriage of MAGA hat wearers and black folks as a new episode of “Black Jeopardy, with Tom Hanks” on Saturday Night Live. It would fall into the “They be Sayin’” category for $600

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I LOVE that skit.. Just have to post it and rewatch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7VaXlMvAvk

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Originally Posted by catherine

I LOVE that skit.. Just have to post it and rewatch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7VaXlMvAvk

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I learned about it from you! It is hilarious.

haha! Oh, geez, I'm getting to be that old auntie that keeps repeating herself.

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Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff

24 minus 8, is not limited?
I was called last month for Jury duty. You need to see if your notice has a call a day before showing. At least locally, they are trying to limit people's exposure and are delaying/settling, etc. All Jurors for that day were released the day before. This releases me for three years.
A doctor is required to state a valid medical reason, under oath. You might try a psychologist or psychiatrist and see if they could provide a note.

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Spoke to the nurse today. They said I would need a note from a psychiatrist. Explained I had a $400 deductible and that is burdensome to me but she didn't care. Emailed the court explaining the situation and asking can I do my jury service remotely. Though my brother was telling me today some of the issues with Zoom so I would rather just be excused.

Zoom issues:

1. They want your email log-in info and can then go through your emails.
2. Big tech can compile your image for a facial recognition database that can be subpoenaed by or sold to the government and used to target any class of citizens they want to go after.

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Originally Posted by catherine

haha! Oh, geez, I'm getting to be that old auntie that keeps repeating herself.

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replaying “classics” is always in order.

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Originally Posted by happystuff

bae, she will not believe anything until she actually catches covid in any of its changing forms. And even then... maybe not.

razz had the right idea with a time-out. The Simple Living forum is slowly turning into a Yppej's rant against everyone and everything forum. Most threads are not fun reads any longer. Hopefully time will change things - who knows.

Blessings to all. And, no, I'm not being "run off" - I'll be around. :)

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Sounds like a good idea. Think I will join the time-out too for the reasons listed above.

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Originally Posted by happystuff

Most threads are not fun reads any longer.

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Posted on the coronavirus thread. I never thought of covid as being a fun topic. To each their own.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

Posted on the coronavirus thread. I never thought of covid as being a fun topic. To each their own.

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Well, for some reason masks have spilled over into public policy, dailies and challenges, workplace issues and probably other categories I’m not remembering at the moment.

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Originally Posted by jp1

Well, for some reason masks have spilled over into public policy, dailies and challenges, workplace issues and probably other categories I’m not remembering at the moment.

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Heck, I even got some good sewing machine advice here a year+ ago for my mask-sewing project :-)

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Originally Posted by bae

Heck, I even got some good sewing machine advice here a year+ ago for my mask-sewing project :-)

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My sister in law was on a tear of mask production for a long time. (She’s a retired hospice nurse who focused on hiv patients and also has long enjoyed sewing and quilting as hobbies so making masks for a pandemic was a natural for her). Just this morning my dentist asked if my mask was made with love or purchased, and I assured her it was the former. And since my dentist is freakin’ awesome I asked her to take a selfie with me to send to my sister in law to let her know that her mask skills had been noted and appreciated.

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Originally Posted by jp1

My sister in law was on a tear of mask production for a long time. (She’s a retired hospice nurse who focused on hiv patients and also has long enjoyed sewing and quilting as hobbies so making masks for a pandemic was a natural for her). Just this morning my dentist asked if my mask was made with love or purchased, and I assured her it was the former. And since my dentist is freakin’ awesome I asked her to take a selfie with me to send to my sister in law to let her know that her mask skills had been noted and appreciated.

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Nice story! I'm sure your sister-in-law was so happy to see that pic.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

Spoke to the nurse today. They said I would need a note from a psychiatrist. Explained I had a $400 deductible and that is burdensome to me but she didn't care. Emailed the court explaining the situation and asking can I do my jury service remotely. Though my brother was telling me today some of the issues with Zoom so I would rather just be excused.

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Not sure why you would think either the Doctors office (you agreed to your deductible) or the court would care (constitutional responsibility).
I do agree that Zoom has issues (I would not install their software on my computers, and since I was required to fill out the jurror form online, I used a computer that identifies itself with an OS that the are unlikely to support.
I was prepared to go to court, but followed the instructions of calling the day before. I know they are even trying to avoid capitol cases (woman was found locally, wanted in another state on a murder warrant. The other state didn't want her during covid) Murder there is no statue of limitations, where a lot of misdemeanors will get dropped.

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Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff

Not sure why you would think either the Doctors office (you agreed to your deductible) or the court would care (constitutional responsibility).

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My employer only offers one medical plan. I cannot get a plan on my own through my state's connector because employer based insurance is available to me.

So while it may be naive of me to think anyone would care about my financial hardship (though courts do in some cases - they even have something called a financial hardship form), it's also naive of you to say that I "agreed" to my deductible. I am mandated by my state to carry medical insurance and yet I have no choice as to what policy or deductible I have.

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Originally Posted by Yppej

My employer only offers one medical plan. I cannot get a plan on my own through my state's connector because employer based insurance is available to me.

So while it may be naive of me to think anyone would care about my financial hardship (though courts do in some cases - they even have something called a financial hardship form), it's also naive of you to say that I "agreed" to my deductible. I am mandated by my state to carry medical insurance and yet I have no choice as to what policy or deductible I have.

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So you don't choose to work there, but are forced to. OK.

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Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff

So you don't choose to work there, but are forced to. OK.

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What world do you live in that people choose their jobs based on the medical deductible rather than the duties, opportunities to learn and grow, effectiveness of management, congeniality of coworkers, other compensation, commute, or dozens of other factors? Or hop jobs in search of lower deductibles which are not guaranteed to stay low from one year to the next?